CHIPPING Fluid / Hairspray Chipping - Understanding the technique / DRYING times and the basics!
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- Hairspray chipping is a technique we use in the hobby to help create realistic looking paint chips on our models. In todays video I answer some of the questions arising around the hobby and help the beginner understand the technique and the effects you can achieve from using it.
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TIMECODE
0:00 Facebook Fix Up - Chipping Fluid
0:17 Steven's Question
0:55 General Rule
1:03 What is Hairspray Chipping
2:32 How it works
3:24 Considerations
4:38 Wrap Up
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5 minutes of power excellent!
😆 thanks buddy 🤩🙌🏼🍻😎
Just a side note...I tried chipping fluid for the first time last weekend and I noticed that pulling the brush and toothpick through the water muddied things up a bit in the surrounding unchipped areas.
Do yourselves a favor and exercise brush control when pulling up paint. Dabbing excess water with a cotton bud helps.
100% dabbing the water away as you work with a tissue is a great idea. Gives you a proper read on where you are at.
Thanks for sharing 🙏🍺
Thanks for the tips, chipping is really fun to play with. Maybe one thing to note here, it is good to seal the first layer of paint (before the chipping fluid) with a varnish to make the paint more durable when chipped.
Hey there👋 Your base layer shouldn’t be getting damaged during this process if the integrity of that layer is sound. I’d highly recommend priming your model prior to painting to help aid with that and make sure that base colour has completely dried.
Also…you shouldn’t have to scrub that hard to get the paint to chip. If you are having to be that heavy handed then possibly you are waiting too long to start the process?
But adding that varnish could be considered as an insurance policy.
Really appreciate your thoughts and taking the time to share here with this community 🙏🍺🍀
@@workbenchhobbies4316Thanks for the tips. I always do it that way, but there probably was a failure on my side. You are right about insurance policy while chipping though :) Have a happy modeling!
Really appreciate you joining in. How good is this hobby! 🙌🏼🍺🙏
If the base coat is enamel (whatever color you want to have come through), it is extremely hard to damage with chipping techniques if the colorcoat/topcoat is acrylic, no clear coat needed.
Great video, Clayton. Very informative, and helpful. One method of speed-drying between coats, with HS chipping, is use of hair dryer. I’m looking forward to more of your videos. Thanks, Clayton 👍 Cheers 🍻 ~ Rob
Hello Rob. Yep. Great tip. I have the hairdryer on my bench and use it regularly. I don’t have much use for it in any other areas of my life anymore 😆😎
Hi Clayton I know I'm a little late to the party on your paint chipping tutorial, Thanks for sharing it was very informative! Have a good day😊
Hey Gary. Never any obligation or expectation mate. Thanks again for joining in 🙏💪😎
When using hairspray on top of an enamel basecoat, I find very thinly sprayed Tamiya acrylics to be harder to soften up than I like with just water. I found that adding a very small amount of rubbing alcohol (less than 1:10) really helps soften that topcoat.
Hey Ed. It probably comes down more to what you are thinning the paint with. If you are cutting it with a lacquer thinner the paint will be harder to chip. If using ipa or water it would be an easier…but they all have a working window so it’s important to not leave it too long.
The ipa will be reactivating the paint, so there’d be a risk that would affect the result…but obviously keeping it at such a low ratio is having the desired effect? Sounds like it’s worth a try 🙌🏼
Appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts.
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Some great tips there Clayton. I tried hair spray chipping for the first time a while ago, with disastrous results. I am still not sure what I did wrong, but I have stuck with brush chipping ever since. The points you raise here are very helpful, and prompts me to give it another try, albeit with a chipping fluid rather than hair spray. Your advice about not ‘flooding’ the surface of the model with hair spray (or chipping fluid) made me think back, and I am sure that was my problem when I tried it.
Love the content mate, and looking forward to the next build video. Cheers for now!
Hey Gary 😎 flooding anything in this hobby is a bit of a no no! 😆 Try it again using the hairspray. Just keep your coats reasonably light. Both hairspray and the top coat. Once the technique‘clicks’ for you you will look for any excuse to use it!
Thanks again for your support 🙏😆🍀
I'm fairly new to the hobby and I invested in Ammo products. Used chipping fluid for the first time with very bad results. My top coat of paint started to bladder everywhere. Fortunately I could remove the cracked paint giving me more or less the result I was looking for. I will continue to use it but my top tip would be. Try the effect a first times on test pieces before applying it to the real model. That's what I will do until the technique gets in my fingers.
Hey Peter. 100%! Try it on an old kit first and have a play with it until you get the feel for it. Just remember to keep your costs light. It sounds to me like you have dumps too much paint down and it’s reactivating the chipping fluid.
Good luck with it though. Don’t give up on it cause it’s a fun technique that can look terrific! 🍺🙏
Great video, I'd recommend taking notes (either write or photograph and text to yourself) because you may get seasonal variations (air-conditioning in the house, dry heater air, outdoor rattle can).
No need to go nuts on the measuring.
It just helps track variables.
Hot weather = smaller window, cooler weather longer window to use chipping fluid.
Hi Jamie. I’m not sure that the weather has that big of an effect on the ability to execute the effect. What has been your experience with it?
@workbenchhobbies4316 it's more the top coat I'm referring to for workability.
When I lived in Tasmania, I had a long time frame with Tamiya Acrylics for chipping experiments (that was the hairspray effort)
Now I live in Adelaide, and the warmer drier climate shortens my working time...
Yes, I live in an air-conditioned house, it's not piped into every room.
So if your results are successful one project and a month later it's not the same, a variable may be climate .
Interesting observation. Thanks for sharing your experience 💪🙏
Thanks for the advice. Strangely enough I am about to start on A Porche King Tiger with winter white wash. So the timing is good. Also congrats on making the cover of MMI with the Vespid Tiger 1.
Thanks Robert. The hairspray chipping will be perfect for that. Can’t wait to hear how you go!
Thank you too for the acknowledgment re the Tiger. I haven’t seen it yet. Always nice to get the cover 🤩🙌🏼💪😁🍻
Awesome.
Thank you! Cheers! 🍻
Thank you for the quick and cogent tutorial on chipping! You got right to what's needed, and I very much appreciate that. Now I have a basis to try the technique at last.
Thanks Eric. Great to hear it was helpful. Hoping to do more of this style of video if people like them. 🤔🍺🙏
Great video as always. Thx for the thorough explanations.
Cheers mate
Thanks Arnold. Appreciate you taking the time to comment 🙏🍺🙌🏼
Very good video, I'd say the most concise one out there , thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for connecting 🙏🍺😎
Useful video buddy cheers.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching 🙏
Muy bien explicado. Un pequeño gran video .Gracias
Thank you so much. So pleased you enjoyed it. Thanks again for taking the time to connect 🙏🍺🍻
Great video, as always.
I appreciate that. Thank you 🙏
Excellent presentation. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your kind words 🙏🍻
Great video and very clear and concise on how this technique works. Well done.
Thanks Paul. Glad you enjoyed it 💪😁🙏🍺
Nice video with a good explanation of chipping, Clayton. Well presented and understandable.
Best wishes and a nice weekend. Joachim
Hello buddy. Great to see you again. Thank you as always for joining in 🙏🙌🏼
Very informative and nice chat too.
Thanks Robert. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for joining in 🙏😁💪
I've tried using chipping fluid before, but didn't have the results, this will help me try again!
Thanks Clayton!
It’s a heck of a lot of fun. See how you go after watching this. Sending you luck 🍀
Try chipping with thinners, it can go bad but the results are worth it.
Chipping with thinners is really not for the beginner. I wouldn’t recommend it
Chipping has been a bit of a strange one,I always get strange streaks,a bit Like the brush stroke British paratrooper camo,it’s strange as over half a year ago,I done chipping on an M46 with winter camo and it looked great.Definitely will look back at this one when chipping again,Thanks Clayton!
Maybe try scrubbing in different directions or try a different brush ? Not sure why you’d be getting streaks? 🤔🤔 Don’t give up on it. It’s a heck of a lot of fun once you get a feel for it 🍺🍀
Thanks for the tutorial. Should there be a layer of gloss varnish between the base coat and the chipping fluid coats?
Great question. You don’t need to varnish before chipping, but you do need to make sure the integrity of your paint is sound. I’d recommend priming you model prior to painting it so the paint has the best chance of adhering.
Also…you don’t have to scrub too hard to chip the paint (generally speaking)…if youre scrubbing so hard it’s damaging the bottom layer of paint you might be leaving it too long before starting the process. Hope that helps 💪🙏🍺
Nice quick summary Clayton. Hairspray chipping will be something I try in a few models time (so that means 2030 at the rate I'm going🤣).
Have you ever tried the salt technique? This looks far easier than salt which has always intrigued me .
Hey Andrew. Yeh, done salt chipping a few times. It works surprisingly well. Downside for me is the salt residue is very difficult to remove completely. I’m still seeing white lines in the models I did it on. Far better ways to achieve a similar result in my opinion.
Thanks again for your support mate 🙏🍺
Thats interesting re the white lines. I've ever seen a model that has used salt chipping a year or two after the chipping was done. Always thought it would be extremely difficult to get all the dissolved salt off the model. Thanks for the info.🍻
Well…not saying it’s impossible to get it all off…it just seems like a bit of a pain every time I’ve done it and even then I can’t get it all off 🤯
Can you chip through multiple layers of airbrushed paint? I would like to paint different shadows and highlights over the chipping medium before actually doing the chipping. is that possible?
Thank you for an excellent tutorial.
Great question! Yes is the answer…but it is crucial you keep the paint as light as possible and move quickly through the process . If the layer is too thick it can be challenging to chip.
Hope that helps. Thanks for contributing 🙏🍺
Hi, can i ask, do you have to varnish the base coat to protect it before applying the chipping fluid, many thanks
Hi Richard. As long as you have prepared the model properly and the integrity of the paint is sound you don;t need. to do that. I'd always recommend priming your model prior to painting the base coat. This will give the paint the best chance to adhere to the model. In saying that, you can varnish it if you like...it wont matter, but if the foundation layer of paint is flawed not even the varnish would save you.
If you start you chipping soon after the paint application you shouldn't have to scrub too hard to get it off.
Thanks for the question and good luck with the technique! Its a load of fun
C
@@workbenchhobbies4316 Thank you for getting back to me 👍
Have you tried using thinner to chip the paint?
Hi. 👋 Trying to chip using a solvent is a risky way to chip because it’s very easy to go too far and damage the layer of paint you are wanting to keep.
Mike Rinaldi uses this technique, and it can look incredible, but I feel it’s too unpredictable for the majority of modellers. It does give a unique look though.
There are safer and easier ways to achieve chips on your models I feel.
Thanks for the excellent question 🤝✌🏼🙌🏼🍺🙏
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