Glad i came across this video, because most you dont see videos like this post often on youtube. Ive always wondered how i can make my montage sound even better and i never gave a damn about arpeggio. But thanks to you, i can now get super creative. Thanks man!
Thank you a lot. I was trying to record something. I couldn't manage to record this. It was very fast, complicated, and I had to do it for quite some time. This helped a lot.
THANK YOU!!!!! I've been banging my head against the wall for the last day trying to figure out how to incorporate the pattern sequencer into a sound (with two pattern scenes), but also have it not play a pattern when I don't want one. By assigning an arpeggio to specific parts and then muting them (or not) via scenes, I was able to work around the possibility of having to record a pattern with no audible notes, if that's even possible.
Super helpful! I wish Yamaha themselves would do more in-depth demos just like this, which are so much easier to get your head around than their super technical manuals.
Read the Yamaha description by Bad Mister... horrible! Quantum physician, not able to explain anything to "normal" people. So THANK YOU VERY MUCH for this video.
GREAT. I tried to make arpeggios myself too, but did not choose OrgNotes. Name suggests that only original notes (no matter which part of keyboard you play) are played. THANK THANK THANK YOU.
Thanks! Very well done teaching wise, I had to adjust the volume between your voice and the keyboard because your voice was unintelligible when level set to keyboard. Just FYI. Still an awesome video. Thanks!
Hey Narf! I have one question, where do u change custom arpeggio velocity after saving it? For example i'm in a band and we are doing this cover, i created the arp in the normal song bpm, but we gonna play it a bit faster, how do i change the velocity after creating it? I just see the velocity change in the pattern record screen Keep the amazin work!
Hello Nafr, pls explain how to import to the drum kit custom user arpeggio...i have made an arpeggio and its saved but how can i import to the performance to use it?? regards
Excellent video. Can you please explain how to create non-note arps to control things like filter, pan, etc? They are mentioned in the manual but no where explained how to create them.
Same procedure but instead of playing notes, just record knob, slider or other controller movements that affect particular CC mesages when recording your arp.
No no no noooo when I heard little respect by depeche mode I cringed a bit xD but nice video, I'm learning synthesizer, I'm a pianist and been on normal keyboards, but now I bought a Modx7 and I'm about to join a band and I'm kinda nervouse cause I don't know a lot of synthesis ;-; but learning thx for the help man!
A song from Scandal called 'Goodbye To You' has a beginning bass sequence with the following chords (Am, D, F#, E). I need to make that into a sequence or a arpeggio where I can either hold the chord (preferred) or at least one key. Any idea how to do this?
nice, can you split the keyboard, so the chord will work on left side only, like a regulard keaboard, and right had play a music with a different song like pinao, flute?
SUBSCRIBED !! Thanks so much !! I was able to create the Radio Ga Ga Arp. Only problem I’m having is when I add the Arp Performance as a Part to the Song performance ( that has the Parts for the chords ) I can’t play them both at the same time. In other words I can play either the Arp Part or the chord Parts but not together. And I have them all turned on. What am I missing ? Thanks !
You'll have to go back to your arp settings and see how you've set them up. The arp has certain behaviours and you can specify whether the sound plays only when the Arp button is selected. You should be able to play chords and arps together.
your sound performances are great, but can you make a pack of modern popular cover songs too?it would be great to have a modern pack, or tell me how much will cost per song if we wanna order a pack of our choosen songs..regards
I'm happy to take suggestions for a pack with more current songs. I do find that it has become difficult to find songs that bands keep in their repertoire. I find that these songs get played for a couple of months and get removed from their setlist. I don't do custom packs though but you can send me a list at narf@narfsounds.com if you want.
@@narfsounds CALVIN HARRIS-HOW DEEP IS YOUR LOVE SIGALA-CAME HERE FOR LOVE PHAREL-GET LUCKY SIA-CHEAP THRILLS CLEAN BANDIT-ROCKABYE ENRIQUE-BAILANDO MABEL-DONT CALL ME UP JAX JONES-BREATHE TIM BERG-SEEK BROMANCE AVICI-LEVELS DAVID GUETTA-SEXY CHICK DAVID GUETTA-WET YVES LA ROCK-RISE UP DON OMAR-DANZA KUDURO BENASSI-HIT MY HEART FRAGMA-TOCAS MIRACLE JAYDEE-PLASTIC DREAMS ..I would love these songs,for a start, haha im sure many of us will have other wishes...regards..you are doing an amazing job...
Thank you. When hitting another note, the current arp sequence is being interrupted and a new one starts. How can I fix that? I want to hit the note and trigger the new arp sequence after that cycle, like you do e.g. in 8:30. Thanks!
aren't there any videos showing how to do a step record arpeggio , like the way arpeggio used to be defined a long time ago using the chord triad notes moving at different intervals? This is a music recording video.
It doesn’t work like a traditional programmable step sequencer. An arpeggio on the Montage is derived from a midi pattern. I’ve done it using external gear feeding the midi data into the Montage.
Ive got missing notes on the arp but the recording is just fine. When I first did the arp, it was in the correct pitch but rerecorded and made it 7 measures and its dropped pitch and has notes missing. 6 months and this thing may become 1800 dollar target practice soon. I miss the old boards.
@@narfsounds I figured out if I hit store at every step, it worked. I'll try a new one tomorrow. Crazy but true. Thanks for the inquiry. Make sure you get your root note correct too!
I need help with the following question in Montage: I created a user arpeggio in the range of 2 octaves, with the sequence C3-E3-G3-C4-G4-C4-G3-E3. But what I want is that, when assigning this arp in a performance, the sequence is triggered when I play only the chord (C-E-G), like what we do on arranger keyboards. For me it's not working, because the sequence only sounds correctly if I play exactly all 8 notes that make up the sequence, in the range of octaves. If I play the chord in its triad, only the three notes played sound, repeating the last one until completing the number of notes recorded in the arpeggiator. Is there any way to resolve this?
Can someone explain when an ostinato became known as an arpeggio? An ostinato is a repeating pattern, which is what this video covers. An arpeggio is a broken chord, such as C-E-G where those notes repeat. Is there a way to automate an actual arpeggio on this keyboard?
Back in the day, synths could only generate actual arpeggios like what you described. They have since become more advanced and are able to store actual patterns but the terminology has remained the same. Yes, you can automate an actual arpeggio on this keyboard.
@@narfsounds Thanks! Do you have a video for that? Or can you tell me how? My background is playing a wooden piano, so I know almost nothing about electronics, effects, envelopes, etc. I really don't understand the terminology. I just turn it on, and I play it.
@@narfsounds The Arpeggio functionality, as advanced ist is on the Modx, would be quite interesting if the Arpeggios were editable step-by-step. There are only a few machines on the market allowing that. Recording an Arp in realtime, though I can do it, makes no sense for me. The Mininova and now Uno Synth pro approach is much more versatile (though I have sync problems with the Uno). You have 8 or 16 step buttons where you can rythmize your Arp. Everything else is just counter-intuitive.
There's one thing that puzzles me. How the built-in arpeggios are created. I claim it's not possible to replicate them all. The problem is the way how notes are replayed if you play less ones the pattern contains originally. For piano you then hear double notes that sounds kind of weird. It seems simply not possible to create an arpeggio that works exactly like the ones Yamaha provided. Make the test: record a preset arpeggio, save the data as a user one and play it. As soon as you play less notes simultanously, it doesn't work like the original one. This is valid for arpeggios for the type 'normal'.
@@narfsounds I know about these settings but couldn't replicate many factory patterns though. Using several tracks with different arpeggio types didn't result better. It remains a secret. Try this by yourself, would like to know what you experience!
Get rich out of this? haha... I wish! These things do take a lot of time and effort to put together and post. Most of my videos have been rendered ineligible for monetization. I guess the other option is to make these available as private paid tutorials. I've removed the non-skippable and banner ads.
More of these please! Clear and understandable - unlike the manual!
I agree, the manual is pretty terrible.
@@ZetaCarinae I heard the manuals are authorized by Lucifer himself😂
Don't care who the song is by, this tutorial is very, very good, Thanks!
Thanks a lot! Very clear and understandable. I am so happy with the new possibilities I have learned. ❤🙏
Wonderful!
Glad i came across this video, because most you dont see videos like this post often on youtube.
Ive always wondered how i can make my montage sound even better and i never gave a damn about arpeggio. But thanks to you, i can now get super creative. Thanks man!
Thank you a lot. I was trying to record something. I couldn't manage to record this. It was very fast, complicated, and I had to do it for quite some time. This helped a lot.
Muy oportuno y bien explicado muchas gracias por tus aportes.👍👍👍
Thanks mate, this synth is a brain workout :)
Thanks for posting this, I found it very useful
Great demo thanks for sharing mate 😀
I like more tutorials for the Montage M. Thnx!
Enjoyed that, very useful 😊
Very helpful, thank you
Great video, took a while to figure out this on Montage M as the menus slightly changed.
THANK YOU!!!!! I've been banging my head against the wall for the last day trying to figure out how to incorporate the pattern sequencer into a sound (with two pattern scenes), but also have it not play a pattern when I don't want one. By assigning an arpeggio to specific parts and then muting them (or not) via scenes, I was able to work around the possibility of having to record a pattern with no audible notes, if that's even possible.
Perfect, now I can make my own! 😁
Thank you for the tutorial Francis.
My pleasure!
Thanks for this. Any more tutorials would be appreciated ;)
Really useful thank you :)
Super helpful! I wish Yamaha themselves would do more in-depth demos just like this, which are so much easier to get your head around than their super technical manuals.
Glad it was helpful!
Read the Yamaha description by Bad Mister... horrible! Quantum physician, not able to explain anything to "normal" people. So THANK YOU VERY MUCH for this video.
Thank you for this, indeed very helpful and clearly explained. Just for reference, the song "A little respect" was created by the duo named Erasure.
Rob Koppens you’re right! Erasure not Depeche Mode.
Very useful!
Yamaha montage great keyboard, 👌👍number one
Useful tutorial thank you.
The song is by Erasure though 😃
johnnyguitar2 you’re right! Erasure not Depeche Mode.
Grazie 🙏🙏🙏
Probably the 4th time I've watched this but actually making my own arps now. Just takes me a few takes as only a mediocre player.
This was invaluable. Thanks for posting
GREAT. I tried to make arpeggios myself too, but did not choose OrgNotes. Name suggests that only original notes (no matter which part of keyboard you play) are played. THANK THANK THANK YOU.
спасибо! 👏
Thanks! Very well done teaching wise, I had to adjust the volume between your voice and the keyboard because your voice was unintelligible when level set to keyboard. Just FYI. Still an awesome video. Thanks!
Thanks John, yeah, I've ordered a lavalier mic and a mixer to get keys and vocal levels right to get these tutorials and live streams going.
Awesome thanks, can you make more programming tutorials, like where you start with making a famous patch etc
Great idea 💡 Will plan a tutorial around one of the songs in the packs
@@narfsounds sounds awesome, can't wait,
Hey Narf! I have one question, where do u change custom arpeggio velocity after saving it? For example i'm in a band and we are doing this cover, i created the arp in the normal song bpm, but we gonna play it a bit faster, how do i change the velocity after creating it? I just see the velocity change in the pattern record screen
Keep the amazin work!
Hello Nafr, pls explain how to import to the drum kit custom user arpeggio...i have made an arpeggio and its saved but how can i import to the performance to use it?? regards
Excellent video. Can you please explain how to create non-note arps to control things like filter, pan, etc? They are mentioned in the manual but no where explained how to create them.
Same procedure but instead of playing notes, just record knob, slider or other controller movements that affect particular CC mesages when recording your arp.
No no no noooo when I heard little respect by depeche mode I cringed a bit xD but nice video, I'm learning synthesizer, I'm a pianist and been on normal keyboards, but now I bought a Modx7 and I'm about to join a band and I'm kinda nervouse cause I don't know a lot of synthesis ;-; but learning thx for the help man!
Yes, you can have several dozens of samples if you want.
A song from Scandal called 'Goodbye To You' has a beginning bass sequence with the following chords (Am, D, F#, E). I need to make that into a sequence or a arpeggio where I can either hold the chord (preferred) or at least one key. Any idea how to do this?
A Little Respect is by Erasure.
you’re right! Erasure not Depeche Mode.
Yeah definitely Erasure good advice tho
Can i do the same but with beat (wave) ?
How exactly does the real time behave?
Hi what sound is used on the modx for this?
excelent,now how to make an arp with 2 or more instruments
nice, can you split the keyboard, so the chord will work on left side only, like a regulard keaboard, and right had play a music with a different song like pinao, flute?
Yes absolutely
SUBSCRIBED !! Thanks so much !! I was able to create the Radio Ga Ga Arp. Only problem I’m having is when I add the Arp Performance as a Part to the Song performance ( that has the Parts for the chords ) I can’t play them both at the same time. In other words I can play either the Arp Part or the chord Parts but not together. And I have them all turned on. What am I missing ? Thanks !
You'll have to go back to your arp settings and see how you've set them up. The arp has certain behaviours and you can specify whether the sound plays only when the Arp button is selected. You should be able to play chords and arps together.
Ok that works. Got it ! Thanks for the response and instructional vids .
your sound performances are great, but can you make a pack of modern popular cover songs too?it would be great to have a modern pack, or tell me how much will cost per song if we wanna order a pack of our choosen songs..regards
I'm happy to take suggestions for a pack with more current songs. I do find that it has become difficult to find songs that bands keep in their repertoire. I find that these songs get played for a couple of months and get removed from their setlist. I don't do custom packs though but you can send me a list at narf@narfsounds.com if you want.
@@narfsounds CALVIN HARRIS-HOW DEEP IS YOUR LOVE
SIGALA-CAME HERE FOR LOVE
PHAREL-GET LUCKY
SIA-CHEAP THRILLS
CLEAN BANDIT-ROCKABYE
ENRIQUE-BAILANDO
MABEL-DONT CALL ME UP
JAX JONES-BREATHE
TIM BERG-SEEK BROMANCE
AVICI-LEVELS
DAVID GUETTA-SEXY CHICK
DAVID GUETTA-WET
YVES LA ROCK-RISE UP
DON OMAR-DANZA KUDURO
BENASSI-HIT MY HEART
FRAGMA-TOCAS MIRACLE
JAYDEE-PLASTIC DREAMS
..I would love these songs,for a start, haha im sure many of us will have other wishes...regards..you are doing an amazing job...
Thank you. When hitting another note, the current arp sequence is being interrupted and a new one starts. How can I fix that? I want to hit the note and trigger the new arp sequence after that cycle, like you do e.g. in 8:30. Thanks!
You can sync the Arp to start on the beat, measure or sync to your key strike. Just look for the parameter that governs that in the arpeggio section.
Is there a way of speed up an arpeggiator without manually changing the tempo?
You can adjust the % note value
Of the patter but that’s still relative to the BPM assigned to the performance.
aren't there any videos showing how to do a step record arpeggio , like the way arpeggio used to be defined a long time ago using the chord triad notes moving at different intervals?
This is a music recording video.
It doesn’t work like a traditional programmable step sequencer. An arpeggio on the Montage is derived from a midi pattern. I’ve done it using external gear feeding the midi data into the Montage.
Can you slow down or speed up the arpeggio after you've created it?
Yes
A Little Respect is by Erasure. Great tutorial though.
Yes, I corrected that in the comments years ago.
Ive got missing notes on the arp but the recording is just fine. When I first did the arp, it was in the correct pitch but rerecorded and made it 7 measures and its dropped pitch and has notes missing. 6 months and this thing may become 1800 dollar target practice soon. I miss the old boards.
What was the convert type of your arpeggio? There’s also a note limit to how long the Arp can be. What are using the Arp for?
@@narfsounds I figured out if I hit store at every step, it worked. I'll try a new one tomorrow. Crazy but true. Thanks for the inquiry. Make sure you get your root note correct too!
can a full midi file be loaded and played, sounds changed and midi data edited?
Not within the Montage, edit externally first before importing.
Hi" how much can you run the arpeggio at once thank
1 arpeggio x 8 parts x 8 scenes.
I need help with the following question in Montage: I created a user arpeggio in the range of 2 octaves, with the sequence C3-E3-G3-C4-G4-C4-G3-E3. But what I want is that, when assigning this arp in a performance, the sequence is triggered when I play only the chord (C-E-G), like what we do on arranger keyboards. For me it's not working, because the sequence only sounds correctly if I play exactly all 8 notes that make up the sequence, in the range of octaves. If I play the chord in its triad, only the three notes played sound, repeating the last one until completing the number of notes recorded in the arpeggiator. Is there any way to resolve this?
Set Org notes as the convert type.
@@narfsounds Thank you, Narf!
how do you speed up the arps?
Speed up the tempo or change the sync note value.
How can fix my montage because I can’t find the loop option after recording... also the user arp is no where to be found also please what can I do
Touch the title of the song then the option to convert to an arp will appear
You also need to record as MIDI not a pattern or audio. It’s one of the options in the beginning.
Can someone explain when an ostinato became known as an arpeggio? An ostinato is a repeating pattern, which is what this video covers. An arpeggio is a broken chord, such as C-E-G where those notes repeat. Is there a way to automate an actual arpeggio on this keyboard?
Back in the day, synths could only generate actual arpeggios like what you described. They have since become more advanced and are able to store actual patterns but the terminology has remained the same. Yes, you can automate an actual arpeggio on this keyboard.
@@narfsounds Thanks! Do you have a video for that? Or can you tell me how? My background is playing a wooden piano, so I know almost nothing about electronics, effects, envelopes, etc. I really don't understand the terminology. I just turn it on, and I play it.
@@narfsounds Is there some documentation on how I can create an old school, back-in-the-day arpeggio?
@@narfsounds The Arpeggio functionality, as advanced ist is on the Modx, would be quite interesting if the Arpeggios were editable step-by-step. There are only a few machines on the market allowing that. Recording an Arp in realtime, though I can do it, makes no sense for me. The Mininova and now Uno Synth pro approach is much more versatile (though I have sync problems with the Uno). You have 8 or 16 step buttons where you can rythmize your Arp. Everything else is just counter-intuitive.
Its by Erasure
Yeah I pinned the comment 3 years ago
@narfsounds I like being late to the party. Good vid by the way.
Thanks for the tutorial, but I can barely hear your voice
Yeah, it’s pretty low tech. It was made before I got a proper setup with a condenser mic and camera. Headphones should help.
There's one thing that puzzles me. How the built-in arpeggios are created. I claim it's not possible to replicate them all. The problem is the way how notes are replayed if you play less ones the pattern contains originally. For piano you then hear double notes that sounds kind of weird. It seems simply not possible to create an arpeggio that works exactly like the ones Yamaha provided.
Make the test: record a preset arpeggio, save the data as a user one and play it. As soon as you play less notes simultanously, it doesn't work like the original one. This is valid for arpeggios for the type 'normal'.
It all depends on how you configure the arpeggio. There are 3 different settings that will give you different results.
@@narfsounds I know about these settings but couldn't replicate many factory patterns though. Using several tracks with different arpeggio types didn't result better. It remains a secret. Try this by yourself, would like to know what you experience!
Uhmmm....Respect by Depeche Mode ?
Vince Clarke will be very upset 😉
It's by Erasure.
you’re right! Erasure not Depeche Mode.
Little Respect by Erasure not Depeche Mode :)
So much commercials, are you trying to get rich out of this?
Get rich out of this? haha... I wish! These things do take a lot of time and effort to put together and post. Most of my videos have been rendered ineligible for monetization. I guess the other option is to make these available as private paid tutorials. I've removed the non-skippable and banner ads.