I have to add to other comments. This appearance by a Cat engineer is a pat on the back for how good your videos are and what a great instructor you make. It is not easy to explain what is going on while actually doing it and Cat recognizes your efforts as positive for their brand.
The way he explains things and illustrates in his videos is very helpful. I learn by seeing then doing,.. i feel like i could easily service any of these common engines!
Cat really watches your videos and says… you know what. All these cat customers watch these, this would be the perfect place to answer their questions. Shout out to Josh and Alan
They're bread crumbs in this guys answers also look at his body language with the on highway question. This engine or some variant of it will make it to new over the road trucks in the future.
As an old Cat man (Hasting Deering Caterpillar Darwin NT Australia 1970 to1979) I greatly enjoy these videos and love to keep up with the amazing technology. I have seen such great changes over the years. Well done. you mention 3400's . I remember when they were introduced and I sold one to a lobster fisherman to replace his D3306. Brilliant.
Hey Josh, long time viewer first time commenter. I just wanted to say it's incredible to see a video in which you're talking to an engineer from Caterpillar about their latest and greatest. Your videos have been a critcial part of my career and this video really put things in perspective how far the channel has come. I started watching your videos when I was a kid working in a factory, living on a dream of working on heavy trucks. I then worked my way from the factory to a trailer tech, then to working on heavy truck for logistics/rental company, and finally to where I am now which is an EPG Field tech for a cat dealer on the east coast. All the while your videos have been there as a means of learning especially before I went through schooling and had employers that did not offer any training opportunities. Well sorry for the lengthy comment. Thanks for all the videos and everything you do!
Considering I was ready to turn the video off at the 4 minute mark, when he said this engine wasn't designed for the highway, this turned out to be a very interesting video. 🤔 😊 Thanks!
The EPA and Customer Wants make it easiest to just keep adding parts to a motor to reach goals. Taking away complexity with a ground up project should work well. In theory.
That's a great interview, I'm a design/manufacturing engineer, one of my last projects was the M1150 Assault Breacher Vehicle. On this project we worked closely with the US Marines at Quantico VA and learned a ton of information by being "in the trenches" with the enlisted men and women. Really think it is a great approach to have "hands on" engineering on a project.
The C175s we had in 793s had lots of injector problems. And our fuel was filtered many times before it got to the engines. We never had fuel filter or water issues in fuel. All hauled in on ice roads and settled in the tank farm for months.
I wish he talked about the hydraulic system more and how they’re going to make sure the oil stays clean enough so it doesn’t fail. I would think they’d have huge spin on filters and a bypass filter but from the picture it’s just those small cartridge ones.
What got my attention, IF I heard it right, they are feeding the "lash adjusters" from the rocker arm's side. I only know of doing it from the "lash adjuster" side ( there's an oil gallery that feeds all bores and keep the adjusters fed and pressurized)
Big time took him years of busting his butt . Says something if u search anything cat adept ape pops up wonder how many guys he has saved pain with his channel
I’ve always heard stories from guys in the shop of how knowledgeable these engineers are and how they can listen to an engine for 30 seconds and pin point the exact problem. Really really cool that you got one on your channel and listening to him explain these things really makes me want to be an engine nerd lol
The hydraulic lash adjusters he described are identical to the way the 993 Porsche, which I am familiar with, does it. I'm also a mechanic, but understand and am familiar with engineering concepts. When he explained the justification for the rear gear train, I "got it" right away. This is a great video. I really enjoy interacting with people that know what they are talking about, which both of you obviously do. I watched the entire thing, no skipping, because I was learning.
@@jdeere8850from what I heard long time when paccar was designing the mx13 they use cat spec and having 2 trucks with one with c13 and the other mx13 both trucks almost drive identical only difference c13 setup with 500 HP 10 SPD manual the mx13 455 HP 13 SPD manual
When this video popped up I was excited, being a long time Cat. Engine fan and also a 20+yrs experience around the heavy equipment world. Until the point where the answer was NO to on-road application. O well still excited for the brand. Thanks for sharing Josh.
The only thing I'm concerned with is on the fly adjustments by the algorithm making it difficult to troubleshoot a fuel delivery problem - that might get masked as another system problem. I guess that could be overcome by paying close attention to sensor outputs and a thorough understanding of the process though.
@sumduma55 unless I'm thinking incorrectly fuel leak test should diag injectors and dead head should diag pump operation along with fuel leakage. All dependent on fuel system architect of course. Lift pump will nearly eliminate arated fuel concerns especially if in its in tank. What do you think?
He definitely has a real degree. Not one of them gender studies degrees the Kool-Aid hair whack-jobs have while screaming their college loans should be paid off by the government because they can't find a good paying job.
Sounds cool. My impression is that probably number one variable in reliability is going to be the durability and accuracy of the sensors feeding the performance algorithm.
Im curious, if these are "off road" only engines, are they going to make a Marine variant? Lighter weight, more power, less fuel consumption sounds ideal for that application.
Great question. One of the strengths of Caterpillar is that we can leverage advancements in one industry and find applications for those improvements in our other industries. If the C13D, or any of the new technology or design enhancements of this engine, has a marine application is something we definitely consider.
I wish CAT would come back with either the option for newer on highway trucks to run a CAT or create newer designed engines to make as an option in newer on highway trucks.
It sparks my interest that he states that a common rail injector will have 3 times the life of a MUI injector. The nozzle tips on the common rail are so sensitive because of the high tolerances. They are susceptible to failure with poorer fuel quality, and being that this is a global engine, fuel quality is going to be vary different across each country it operates in.
Yeah. We changed far more injectors on the common rail C175 than we ever did of the MEUI injectors on the 3500s. Same with the C32s and C27s, injector problems were very rare. The 16 cyl C175s were always throwing injector codes. 'Not Responding Properly'.
This had to be a calculated life or some form of perfect world scenario. I’ve worked on deere, cat, claas (Mercedes and man) and I’ve changed about 3 MUI’s that I can remember and about 30 common rail injectors. Honorable mention all the C9 heui’s I’ve replaced usually 6 at the time. Lol
Hi Josh, Jamie from Australia watching, thanks for getting Allen on to go through the details, very interesting indeed this new engine, and thanks for your efforts as always, your knowledge has helped tremendously with our C15 truck stuff here in Australia, so thanks again 🇺🇸🇭🇲🤝
Sir you are the greatest , nothing but the highest respect for you thanks for the hard work , it really got us out of trouble lots of times god bless you and family with all the good things.
Good interview this man did a good job in his diplomacy in answering questions im sure its hard for someone who creates these things to not fully dive into the ins and outs
Shattered my hopes right off the bat confirming that it WILL NOT BE FOR ON HIGHWAY USE! So many people want a CAT engine option for their truck but it seems CAT doesn’t give a shit! Very disappointed because it seems we are stuck with junk options. I miss them, other drivers miss them, my fleet mechanics miss them but I guess they just don’t miss us 😾. WE WANT CAT ENGINES IN OUR TRUCKS! Make Trucks Great Again!
Way cool talk. I thought it was going to be a marketing spew of canned responses, but I am completely impressed at how detailed and in-depth some of the answer were. Thank you to both of you.
Would have to disagree on the “robustness” of those c175 injectors. We go through injectors like candy on our 793f haul trucks while we have very little issues with our 3516 engines.
Alan, another question on the application topic. Would the C13D be implemented in agriculture? Like would CAT sell the engines to JOHN DEERE to be put in to tractors? I'm asking because in my opinion farmers would love to have a very efficient engine that does not use an EGR system.
Thank you to Allen and Josh. This is very interesting. My primary interest would be as an end user for repower. At least initially. To Allen I would say robustness is particularly important. In the late ‘60’s and 70’s Cat built their growth on the robustness of their product. The structure, the hydraulics, the quality and quality control. In recent years this has all fallen. If you are going to have multiple sensors on your engine, make sure their wiring is twice as good as it needs to be to last twice the life of the engine. When working as an engineer, remember life is not level like a pool table, it’s full of ups and downs, so don’t be a pool table engineer. Again, thank you both and best wishes for the new engine. We need it.
Good video Josh, great to hear information right from a Cat guy, little disappointed to hear that they won't be offering this engine to on highway trucks reading between the lines thinking if they test this out and it makes the tier 4 emissions requirements they might offer it in to trucks, seems like a good way to do things.
Dude I guarantee you that they will have to add a coolant bypass line from the back of the head around cylinders five and six to eliminate hot spots that reduce the life of those back cylinders because of reduced airflow to them by having the incoming air charge enter the head via a single port at the front of the head because that automatically biases the front three cylinders to get ideal airflow. The rear two or three will run richer than the front three and they will run hotter. This could have been eliminated by having two intake ports into the head of equal size at cylinder two and cylinder three. This was an issue on the 3406B and it will return
Will the temperature difference be enough to cause problems in this new design? The hydraulics coming through the lifters would also add temperature under load but would it be substantial? I'm not familiar with these issues as I don't work on heavy machinery.
I see someone finding a way to make this engine work in a heavy truck some time after general release ('26, according to Allen). that would be interesting to follow.
Ain't gonna happen. Not when shops are getting fined hundreds of thousands for defeating emissions equipment. Nothing will bolt up to it and run it in a truck anyway.
remember guys: not all engineers are evil people that put long bolts in really tight spaces or make things backwards to make you, your knucles, your family, your 10mm socket and your wallet suffer in eternal agony.... jokes aside i always find fun in listening to engineers about new designs especially when they are really engaged about it, had a kind of similar feeling from that time GM announced the LM2 3.0 liter inline 6 with the modern architecture with the valve train on the back of the engine and saw an interview with the engineers after basically what was 6~8 years of R&D on it, new piston bowl desing and such to make much more efficient use of the combustion while lowering the emissions. this is always fun times for me, thanks allen for your time and josh thanks for coming up with this idea!
Thank you. While I look forward to the future C13D. I'll continue to embrace the past. I went from upgrading Cat equipment every 5 years, to rebuilding. I've been holding out for an honest emissions compliant reliable solution. So far nothing from any oem.
Thanks Josh, & Allen, it's good to hear from someone who knows what they're talking about. Let's hope there are not too many undocumented features when this engine gets released into the community and that the design team were successful in keeping the manufacturing cost merchants (Accountants) in their box and the plastic crankshaft is not making its debut. If they ruled the project, we're sunk....... again. Good luck to you Allen and everyone at CAT involved in this project. Looks like you might become redundant Josh 😂
These engineers need to move the dpf filter, and mount somewhere different on dozers. To reseal a valve cover or to do injectors takes twice as long on a dozer, then it does on a excavator. Example C9 in a cat D6, and a C9 in a 336. Fyi inspect cups, I've changed because orings showing when injector removed. And dont use the Cat tool. Its a couple washers, bolt, tap, and a race driver set, buy the tool from freedom racing it will save you hours, excellent tool.(normally cat has great tooling, the c9 tooling blows!!!)
So, the flash files just set the particular algorithms for whatever rating is chosen? Also, I'm gonna need a replacement engine for my crusher that I might buy in the future. I'll transport it with my 1979 359 that has a worn out engine. 😜
Sensors for the most part are quite accurate nowadays, just depends on what they are making it sense I spose. Also all us numb skulls understanding how the system works hahah
👍hydraulic lash adjusters really smacks of a disposable engine. I hope not but it’s difficult to see them being just as durable as a mechanically adjustable rocker arm. HLAs have certainly given more than their share of problems in gas applications.
Wonder what his answer would have been to a question about bell housing bolt pattern...given that he specifically said it was NOT designed for "on highway" use.
I am a Cummins guy but I religiously watch Adept Ape's videos- -Is it just me? Or did the wind go out of other people's cells to when it was mentioned that this engine will not be going into any truck-tractors...???
Hey Josh I have an interview tomorrow at a local CAT dealer to be a tech coming with some experience from a heavy truck background what’s something I should expect from CAT to become a technician (preventative maintenance) that’s the position I applied for
Sounds like they made a yellow X12 Cummins. I’m a cat fan but all current on road engines are glass fragile compared to the older gen powerplants. If this engine is built in similar fashion then they will need a more contamination tolerant fuel system and ATD redundancy.
Way cool to bring Allen onto the channel! Allen, thank you for talking to Josh!
You know you have made it when CAT comes to you. Was very interesting interview.
He's polite and has that speak out loud voice.
I have to add to other comments. This appearance by a Cat engineer is a pat on the back for how good your videos are and what a great instructor you make. It is not easy to explain what is going on while actually doing it and Cat recognizes your efforts as positive for their brand.
The way he explains things and illustrates in his videos is very helpful. I learn by seeing then doing,.. i feel like i could easily service any of these common engines!
Definitely 💯 percent agree that’s the first thought I had as well
Engineers and mechanics should be in daily contact, helping each other understand problems better and improve designs 🤔
THAT my friend would be a dream come true.
Yep! and the first thing mechanics are going to tell the engineers is::: no rear powertrain please!.
Right?🤔
Cat really watches your videos and says… you know what. All these cat customers watch these, this would be the perfect place to answer their questions.
Shout out to Josh and Alan
He is the man👍🏿
They're bread crumbs in this guys answers also look at his body language with the on highway question. This engine or some variant of it will make it to new over the road trucks in the future.
As an old Cat man (Hasting Deering Caterpillar Darwin NT Australia 1970 to1979) I greatly enjoy these videos and love to keep up with the amazing technology. I have seen such great changes over the years. Well done. you mention 3400's . I remember when they were introduced and I sold one to a lobster fisherman to replace his D3306. Brilliant.
Hey Josh, long time viewer first time commenter. I just wanted to say it's incredible to see a video in which you're talking to an engineer from Caterpillar about their latest and greatest. Your videos have been a critcial part of my career and this video really put things in perspective how far the channel has come. I started watching your videos when I was a kid working in a factory, living on a dream of working on heavy trucks. I then worked my way from the factory to a trailer tech, then to working on heavy truck for logistics/rental company, and finally to where I am now which is an EPG Field tech for a cat dealer on the east coast. All the while your videos have been there as a means of learning especially before I went through schooling and had employers that did not offer any training opportunities. Well sorry for the lengthy comment. Thanks for all the videos and everything you do!
How can you watch and not comment ? You must be super busy. 🤔👍
Considering I was ready to turn the video off at the 4 minute mark, when he said this engine wasn't designed for the highway, this turned out to be a very interesting video. 🤔 😊 Thanks!
Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh has an incredible engineering program. That school is no joke. Kinda cool that’s this young mans school of choice
I would love to see my company go back to CAT engines. We now use Cummins and they're junk. The CATs we used to use would not die.
The EPA and Customer Wants make it easiest to just keep adding parts to a motor to reach goals. Taking away complexity with a ground up project should work well. In theory.
Two brilliant minds having a conversation. Excellent presentation.
That's a great interview, I'm a design/manufacturing engineer, one of my last projects was the M1150 Assault Breacher Vehicle. On this project we worked closely with the US Marines at Quantico VA and learned a ton of information by being "in the trenches" with the enlisted men and women. Really think it is a great approach to have "hands on" engineering on a project.
The C175s we had in 793s had lots of injector problems.
And our fuel was filtered many times before it got to the engines.
We never had fuel filter or water issues in fuel.
All hauled in on ice roads and settled in the tank farm for months.
Especially in a tier 2 system , 4 final has seen a lot of upgrades in the fuel system , I believe the HLA was ditched in the C175 as well.
You were lucky to just have injector problems 😂😂😂
Lots of horse power in this video! Huge amount of respect for both of you!
I wish he talked about the hydraulic system more and how they’re going to make sure the oil stays clean enough so it doesn’t fail. I would think they’d have huge spin on filters and a bypass filter but from the picture it’s just those small cartridge ones.
What got my attention, IF I heard it right, they are feeding the "lash adjusters" from the rocker arm's side.
I only know of doing it from the "lash adjuster" side ( there's an oil gallery that feeds all bores and keep the adjusters fed and pressurized)
@@GIGABACHI either the service intervals are shorter or they don’t expect these engines to last anyways so why bother.
@@markm0000 obviously they expect them to last a certain duty cycle with a certain percentage of uptime
@@GIGABACHIif they're fixed rocker gear (think rockers above cam, not below) then it's far easier to run pressure fed through the rocker shaft
Wow, talk about hitting the big time. "Cat reached out to me".
It is a testament to your good work.
I'm happy for you.
Big time took him years of busting his butt . Says something if u search anything cat adept ape pops up wonder how many guys he has saved pain with his channel
I’ve always heard stories from guys in the shop of how knowledgeable these engineers are and how they can listen to an engine for 30 seconds and pin point the exact problem. Really really cool that you got one on your channel and listening to him explain these things really makes me want to be an engine nerd lol
Great job Allen! Thanks Josh for great interview with not only a marketing rep, but one of the core engineers behind this engine's inception.
Thanks Allen, that was very interesting. Always good to see a company being proactive like this.
No EGR...I like it already. Stupidest idea ever invented!
Alan is awesome for doing this
I could listen to him for hours explaining all the details
The hydraulic lash adjusters he described are identical to the way the 993 Porsche, which I am familiar with, does it.
I'm also a mechanic, but understand and am familiar with engineering concepts. When he explained the justification for the rear gear train, I "got it" right away. This is a great video. I really enjoy interacting with people that know what they are talking about, which both of you obviously do. I watched the entire thing, no skipping, because I was learning.
Sounds like it’s basically Cat’s equivalent of Detroit’s DD13/15/17 engines
Same bore stroke as the Paccar??? 😰🚛
Except Detroit ripped it off from Mercedes Benz, this is a fresh build CAT.
@@jdeere8850from what I heard long time when paccar was designing the mx13 they use cat spec and having 2 trucks with one with c13 and the other mx13 both trucks almost drive identical only difference c13 setup with 500 HP 10 SPD manual the mx13 455 HP 13 SPD manual
I was thinking the same thing 😂
The 3516 in the first production 994K had hydraulic lifters but were changed out for conventional mechanical ones.
Good luck stopping me putting one of these in my truck!
When this video popped up I was excited, being a long time Cat. Engine fan and also a 20+yrs experience around the heavy equipment world. Until the point where the answer was NO to on-road application. O well still excited for the brand. Thanks for sharing Josh.
Give me a C-12, with a common rail injection system .
No shit...don't think there was anything really wrong with the 3176 platform??..
No shit, this is gonna be interesting. Thank you josh for always bringing us an interesting video.
That was awesome. I'm excited to see how a map free fuel system is going to work out.
Maps have been replaced by Siri ...O..... Wrong maps .... Umm ... Never mind🙄
🐿👀LOOK Squirrel ‼
The only thing I'm concerned with is on the fly adjustments by the algorithm making it difficult to troubleshoot a fuel delivery problem - that might get masked as another system problem. I guess that could be overcome by paying close attention to sensor outputs and a thorough understanding of the process though.
@sumduma55 unless I'm thinking incorrectly fuel leak test should diag injectors and dead head should diag pump operation along with fuel leakage. All dependent on fuel system architect of course. Lift pump will nearly eliminate arated fuel concerns especially if in its in tank. What do you think?
This kid probably has more (college) degrees than a thermometer. I am impressed.
He definitely has a real degree. Not one of them gender studies degrees the Kool-Aid hair whack-jobs have while screaming their college loans should be paid off by the government because they can't find a good paying job.
Sounds cool. My impression is that probably number one variable in reliability is going to be the durability and accuracy of the sensors feeding the performance algorithm.
Im curious, if these are "off road" only engines, are they going to make a Marine variant? Lighter weight, more power, less fuel consumption sounds ideal for that application.
Those 3 things sound ideal for every application
I was wondering this myself. Also if the engine has the ability to be converted to counter-rotate.
Great question. One of the strengths of Caterpillar is that we can leverage advancements in one industry and find applications for those improvements in our other industries. If the C13D, or any of the new technology or design enhancements of this engine, has a marine application is something we definitely consider.
So how long until someone puts this into a semi?
Day one someone will, always does.
I wish CAT would come back with either the option for newer on highway trucks to run a CAT or create newer designed engines to make as an option in newer on highway trucks.
It sparks my interest that he states that a common rail injector will have 3 times the life of a MUI injector. The nozzle tips on the common rail are so sensitive because of the high tolerances. They are susceptible to failure with poorer fuel quality, and being that this is a global engine, fuel quality is going to be vary different across each country it operates in.
Yeah.
We changed far more injectors on the common rail C175 than we ever did of the MEUI injectors on the 3500s. Same with the C32s and C27s, injector problems were very rare.
The 16 cyl C175s were always throwing injector codes. 'Not Responding Properly'.
This had to be a calculated life or some form of perfect world scenario. I’ve worked on deere, cat, claas (Mercedes and man) and I’ve changed about 3 MUI’s that I can remember and about 30 common rail injectors. Honorable mention all the C9 heui’s I’ve replaced usually 6 at the time. Lol
Ah yes, but you see… it lasted 3 times longer in a lab environment, with perfectly clean diesel, closely monitored by engineers.
Yeah but you're not gonna have a prayer of meeting emissions with outdated unit injectors
If it sounds too good to be true, always assume that it is.
What a shame there are no plans to make this available to the on highway market
Why yall asking for it so much if yall are gonna cry that it has emissions anyway? Is it just a brand simping thing
Emissions would be a problem.
Alan is in “engines and transportation.” They HAVE to talk about the very few On Highway” engines sold now.
Hi Josh, Jamie from Australia watching, thanks for getting Allen on to go through the details, very interesting indeed this new engine, and thanks for your efforts as always, your knowledge has helped tremendously with our C15 truck stuff here in Australia, so thanks again 🇺🇸🇭🇲🤝
Sir you are the greatest , nothing but the highest respect for you thanks for the hard work , it really got us out of trouble lots of times god bless you and family with all the good things.
Good interview this man did a good job in his diplomacy in answering questions im sure its hard for someone who creates these things to not fully dive into the ins and outs
Shattered my hopes right off the bat confirming that it WILL NOT BE FOR ON HIGHWAY USE! So many people want a CAT engine option for their truck but it seems CAT doesn’t give a shit! Very disappointed because it seems we are stuck with junk options. I miss them, other drivers miss them, my fleet mechanics miss them but I guess they just don’t miss us 😾. WE WANT CAT ENGINES IN OUR TRUCKS! Make Trucks Great Again!
Way cool talk. I thought it was going to be a marketing spew of canned responses, but I am completely impressed at how detailed and in-depth some of the answer were.
Thank you to both of you.
thank you Allen Chen very informative interview.
I wish cat could come back to the on highway market. Too many red engines kicking around
Would have to disagree on the “robustness” of those c175 injectors. We go through injectors like candy on our 793f haul trucks while we have very little issues with our 3516 engines.
Alan, another question on the application topic. Would the C13D be implemented in agriculture? Like would CAT sell the engines to JOHN DEERE to be put in to tractors? I'm asking because in my opinion farmers would love to have a very efficient engine that does not use an EGR system.
Not likely going to John Deere, because they make their own engines.
Some off their tractors use Cummins engines tho
Thank you to Allen and Josh. This is very interesting. My primary interest would be as an end user for repower. At least initially. To Allen I would say robustness is particularly important. In the late ‘60’s and 70’s Cat built their growth on the robustness of their product. The structure, the hydraulics, the quality and quality control. In recent years this has all fallen. If you are going to have multiple sensors on your engine, make sure their wiring is twice as good as it needs to be to last twice the life of the engine. When working as an engineer, remember life is not level like a pool table, it’s full of ups and downs, so don’t be a pool table engineer. Again, thank you both and best wishes for the new engine. We need it.
I was really hoping this was going to be the comeback engine for Cat for on road applications. Is there any talk of Cat going back on the road?
That was a very good interview with a ton of information thank you both for doing this
Good video Josh, great to hear information right from a Cat guy, little disappointed to hear that they won't be offering this engine to on highway trucks reading between the lines thinking if they test this out and it makes the tier 4 emissions requirements they might offer it in to trucks, seems like a good way to do things.
Thanks for the interview guys! This was insightful and entertaining
Totally Rad man!! Great hook up. Absolutely awesome info Josh!! More amazing channel growth. Cheers Josh. 🥂🍻👍💪
Absolutely great work Ivan. 60107 says hi.
That’s awesome they reached out to talk about the engine.
28:35 there it is, the power division is separate from the equipment division so equipment may or may not pick up the C13D.
Dude I guarantee you that they will have to add a coolant bypass line from the back of the head around cylinders five and six to eliminate hot spots that reduce the life of those back cylinders because of reduced airflow to them by having the incoming air charge enter the head via a single port at the front of the head because that automatically biases the front three cylinders to get ideal airflow. The rear two or three will run richer than the front three and they will run hotter. This could have been eliminated by having two intake ports into the head of equal size at cylinder two and cylinder three. This was an issue on the 3406B and it will return
Will the temperature difference be enough to cause problems in this new design? The hydraulics coming through the lifters would also add temperature under load but would it be substantial? I'm not familiar with these issues as I don't work on heavy machinery.
This your best video yet
I have watching your for several years
That's cool to know through the wise question to know more about the product.
Let see how it's perform the real time
I see someone finding a way to make this engine work in a heavy truck some time after general release ('26, according to Allen). that would be interesting to follow.
Ain't gonna happen. Not when shops are getting fined hundreds of thousands for defeating emissions equipment.
Nothing will bolt up to it and run it in a truck anyway.
That was an awesome video! You should do more of this talking with cat engineers
AMAZING. Thank you for this video and interview Josh!
remember guys: not all engineers are evil people that put long bolts in really tight spaces or make things backwards to make you, your knucles, your family, your 10mm socket and your wallet suffer in eternal agony.... jokes aside i always find fun in listening to engineers about new designs especially when they are really engaged about it, had a kind of similar feeling from that time GM announced the LM2 3.0 liter inline 6 with the modern architecture with the valve train on the back of the engine and saw an interview with the engineers after basically what was 6~8 years of R&D on it, new piston bowl desing and such to make much more efficient use of the combustion while lowering the emissions.
this is always fun times for me, thanks allen for your time and josh thanks for coming up with this idea!
Josh, I subscribed just because of this interview. Well done! Cat engines are the best truck motorhome engines EVER. Miss my C12
Thank you.
While I look forward to the future C13D. I'll continue to embrace the past. I went from upgrading Cat equipment every 5 years, to rebuilding. I've been holding out for an honest emissions compliant reliable solution. So far nothing from any oem.
Great video thanks for sharing thanks Allen for sharing with us
Really enjoyed this, Allen is very interesting to listen to, Josh you did good bringing this to us, thanks.
Congratulations Allen, super proud of you.
The question that needed to be asked: How easy is it to convert to an on road application?
27:53 sounds like it was built fer a marine application
Great interview.
Thanks Josh, & Allen, it's good to hear from someone who knows what they're talking about. Let's hope there are not too many undocumented features when this engine gets released into the community and that the design team were successful in keeping the manufacturing cost merchants (Accountants) in their box and the plastic crankshaft is not making its debut. If they ruled the project, we're sunk....... again. Good luck to you Allen and everyone at CAT involved in this project. Looks like you might become redundant Josh 😂
These engineers need to move the dpf filter, and mount somewhere different on dozers. To reseal a valve cover or to do injectors takes twice as long on a dozer, then it does on a excavator. Example C9 in a cat D6, and a C9 in a 336. Fyi inspect cups, I've changed because orings showing when injector removed. And dont use the Cat tool. Its a couple washers, bolt, tap, and a race driver set, buy the tool from freedom racing it will save you hours, excellent tool.(normally cat has great tooling, the c9 tooling blows!!!)
Why is this engine not used in a truck application?
This should be a good one.
Easy truck "bolt-in"? Off-road of course 😉
So, the flash files just set the particular algorithms for whatever rating is chosen?
Also, I'm gonna need a replacement engine for my crusher that I might buy in the future. I'll transport it with my 1979 359 that has a worn out engine.
😜
I like the sound of fuel algorithms, my concern is how reliable will all those sensors prove to be?
Sensors for the most part are quite accurate nowadays, just depends on what they are making it sense I spose. Also all us numb skulls understanding how the system works hahah
Exciting news, hopefully it proves itself to be successful in reality. And then possibly back in the highway trucks 😂
Won't be onload anytime soon with the push for electric
sure would like on highway engine
So what are the planned applications for these?
Looks like it be based on PACCAR mx 13 and latest "international" engine...
That's cool.
Would be cool if yall can do another video breaking down the other CAT engine. 👍🏽
Very interesting interview, I was very impressed with Alan Chen and like the way he explained things.
This really excites me thank you both
👍hydraulic lash adjusters really smacks of a disposable engine. I hope not but it’s difficult to see them being just as durable as a mechanically adjustable rocker arm. HLAs have certainly given more than their share of problems in gas applications.
Wonder what his answer would have been to a question about bell housing bolt pattern...given that he specifically said it was NOT designed for "on highway" use.
I am a Cummins guy but I religiously watch Adept Ape's videos-
-Is it just me? Or did the wind go out of other people's cells to when it was mentioned that this engine will not be going into any truck-tractors...???
Customer of mine has 2 3412E grinders, 1000hp, and 2 pregrinders with C18's. 575hp.
Wonder if Komptech will put the 13D in their new 6000's.
Great show...good job! Thank you.
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Got a mining contract in Australia to pull 250 tonnes 24/7 for next 5 years pulling 4 trailers. Thinking this may be the engine for the job
I don't know forsure if it was that engine, but it probably was. 1989 Peterbuilt tractor with a Detroit V8 junked with only like 200,000 miles on it.
Hey Josh I have an interview tomorrow at a local CAT dealer to be a tech coming with some experience from a heavy truck background what’s something I should expect from CAT to become a technician (preventative maintenance) that’s the position I applied for
Great video. Thank you, Alan.
Sounds like they made a yellow X12 Cummins. I’m a cat fan but all current on road engines are glass fragile compared to the older gen powerplants. If this engine is built in similar fashion then they will need a more contamination tolerant fuel system and ATD redundancy.
The video seems more satisfying to Josh; I’m enjoying his reaction. ❤
Looks similar to deeres new 13.6 clean sheet engine? JD14 rear gear train, single turbo, hpcr fuel system and belt driven water pump
Allen Chen, you’re my hero!!!!!!!