Nobody Understands Bitcoin with Jack Mallers, American HODL, Alex Thorn & Calle

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    “To believe that Bitcoin will stop changing I think is a fallacy, and it means that Bitcoin will die, because…Bitcoin is software and software never stops to evolve.”
    - Calle
    Jack Mallers is the Founder & CEO of Strike, American HODL is a Bitcoin Educator, Alex Thorn is the Head of Firmwide Research at Galaxy and Calle is a Bitcoin developer working on Cashu. In this interview, we discuss why no one understands Bitcoin, ETFs & centralisation threats and the importance of funding development.
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Komentáře • 95

  • @BestYTComment
    @BestYTComment Před 27 dny +27

    Anyone else impressed with how good Danny is as a moderator? At this rate he could get his own show 😅

    • @DN-dj4gi
      @DN-dj4gi Před 27 dny +1

      Eventually he will take over WBD, Peter is working towards that.

    • @aaronsilcox5977
      @aaronsilcox5977 Před 21 dnem

      @@DN-dj4gi he should smart

    • @motopolak
      @motopolak Před 20 dny

      @@DN-dj4gi You mean Peter is working on that intentionally? Very interesting

  • @P__114
    @P__114 Před 27 dny +13

    Best conference ever. Level headed guests. Great questions. Love it.

  • @Mac-ku3xu
    @Mac-ku3xu Před 27 dny +32

    The guy in the orange mask is Peter Schiff. The accent slips occasionally.

  • @knoworiginality
    @knoworiginality Před 27 dny +5

    Jack Mallers always a rock star.

  • @christinewillis7545
    @christinewillis7545 Před 27 dny +1

    Sometimes I worry about efforts to centralize Bitcoin either through mining or flooding Bitcoin node networks with thousands of AI bots. Then along comes Jack. So I learned from this talk - time and energy has to be invested to make this possible. Thank you Peter and Jack. I'm on the right track. I'm a slow learner - but I'm getting there.

  • @lhzsdgsfbvv
    @lhzsdgsfbvv Před 27 dny +2

    Great line up. Modest conversation.

  • @asdfqwerty3551
    @asdfqwerty3551 Před 27 dny +3

    mallers spitting hot fire

  • @haraldclark6206
    @haraldclark6206 Před 27 dny

    Great talks, two together!

  • @billabongboy9510
    @billabongboy9510 Před 27 dny +4

    Fucking love Mallers!!!!

  • @DN-dj4gi
    @DN-dj4gi Před 27 dny +2

    3:40 Dude bashing Saylor with his ski mask 😆What does he you know

    • @MikeStillUK
      @MikeStillUK Před 26 dny

      He’s a physics PhD. Bitcoin is not digital energy.

    • @Chunga6
      @Chunga6 Před 26 dny

      ​@@MikeStillUK it's a fire in cyberspace

    • @motopolak
      @motopolak Před 20 dny

      @@MikeStillUK I agree, "digital energy" always sounded weird to me. I like the term "economic energy" more. Maybe still not super accurate, but at least I can wrap my head around it using that label.

  • @Ray_Charles
    @Ray_Charles Před 27 dny

    Great conference Pete! I really enjoyed watching all the content. I'm new to the bitcoin space, and a month ago I didn't know Bedford existed, and now it's somewhere I absolutely want to come visit some day. Cheers

  • @darrenpalliaer8928
    @darrenpalliaer8928 Před 25 dny

    Great stuff. ❤

  • @LeeJF1
    @LeeJF1 Před 27 dny

    Good work bro 🤝

  • @LawrenceNewman01
    @LawrenceNewman01 Před 25 dny

    Jack says “nothing will change if you don’t want to change”
    Baller

  • @lastnamefirstname2390
    @lastnamefirstname2390 Před 27 dny +1

    "Money is abstracted time and energy. The world has borrowed a ton of time and energy and not delivered back on it. And so the question that everyone's trying to figure out - that every single government and central bank is trying to figure out - whos time and energy is going to pay that back?" - Jack Mallers
    Brilliant.

  • @rubenortega6088
    @rubenortega6088 Před 26 dny +2

    It is digital energy and digital gold and tons more

  • @jmscloyd1
    @jmscloyd1 Před 27 dny +1

    The primary concern I have with ordinals is their effect on already high transaction fees. I feel like no one I addressing this. How can btc be the future of finance when it costs anywhere from $2-$200 to do a single transaction? I thought we we’re supposed to be better than the legacy system

    • @JamesVannordstrand
      @JamesVannordstrand Před 21 dnem +1

      This is not a problem. Higher layers, like Lightning, scale Bitcoin transactions.

  • @organic723
    @organic723 Před 27 dny +1

    The first guy: “I’m like, then they’re like, then I was like, but they were like…“

    • @dcntralizedmind2754
      @dcntralizedmind2754 Před 27 dny

      American HODL. He’s a funny guy…he’s there because he always comes with an honest take

  • @JoshuaPolier
    @JoshuaPolier Před 27 dny

    Top 💯

  • @graywz
    @graywz Před 27 dny +3

    These guys throwing shade at Michael Saylor is really low. Lessens their credibility a lot in my eyes.

  • @robbatayaki5505
    @robbatayaki5505 Před 24 dny

    Andreas Antonopoulos, Saylor, Jack ......

  • @jinglebobfece4d8booglestra34

    Congrats on the conference, shame you didn't ask Jack whether one could be self sovereign without holding a UTXO though I suspect he would have 'hand waved' and ultimately dodged the question (though you certainly should push for an answer in private as I think you actually believe in a better money for everyone rich or poor, sadly a custodial BTC will be just a Bitcoin backed CBDC for the masses)

  • @tcsovereignpleb4492
    @tcsovereignpleb4492 Před 27 dny

    Where's Mallers?

  • @reasoning..
    @reasoning.. Před 27 dny +2

    Not digital energy? Then you mention "the people who put in the most 'energy'"... I totally dismissed you at that point.

    • @knoworiginality
      @knoworiginality Před 27 dny

      I think his point is that Bitcoin isn't anything that existed before. It's hard to make a direct comparison to something else that exists.

    • @reasoning..
      @reasoning.. Před 25 dny

      Energy has always existed

  • @marioperry7369
    @marioperry7369 Před 27 dny

    I wanted to use strike here in the US, but they asked for my FULL ssn#…. That’s a hard pass, Jack… Sorry.

  • @colecarroll1881
    @colecarroll1881 Před 27 dny

    Mallers should be first no question

  • @user-lf6yh5fm9u
    @user-lf6yh5fm9u Před 27 dny +1

    Yes I am first comment man...

  • @blake-nw4pd
    @blake-nw4pd Před 23 dny +1

    People who do not buy and hold BTC will regret it.

  • @frogger2513
    @frogger2513 Před 16 dny

    Over thinking it.

  • @bmo8898
    @bmo8898 Před 27 dny +1

    "...theoretically the plebs could fork out Blackrock..."
    awesome, make it happen

    • @dcntralizedmind2754
      @dcntralizedmind2754 Před 27 dny

      Definitely caught my attention but It would fuck citizens. Obviously He’s just saying everyone,including Blackrock should understand that it’s possible.

  • @SteveDyn
    @SteveDyn Před 27 dny

    Jack is on target

  • @user-ic6xf
    @user-ic6xf Před 27 dny

    Calle is so good. Always has a good perspective.

  • @brenden5721
    @brenden5721 Před 27 dny

    Would love to watch Jack Mallers show Schiff and Dimon their level of stupidity in a debate.

  • @ssylwester
    @ssylwester Před 27 dny

    1st

  • @ERA145
    @ERA145 Před 20 dny

    The guy in the orange mask sounds like he doesn’t like bitcoin anymore.

  • @GRumpyonekinobi
    @GRumpyonekinobi Před 27 dny +3

    A few digs at Saylor early in this one lol from Hodl and Phone Jacker and that rap was cringe AF.

  • @jayd6813
    @jayd6813 Před 27 dny +6

    I can't trust a guy with an orange stocking on his head, because he's not as brave as the rest of us.

    • @1bird_d
      @1bird_d Před 27 dny +5

      Being an anon is a valuable thing

    • @byronhambly
      @byronhambly Před 27 dny +1

      judge ideas independently from their source.

    • @jayd6813
      @jayd6813 Před 27 dny

      @@byronhambly No, that is not how we evolved. We take in immeasurable amount of data visually to survive ("that stick in the corner of one's eye might be a snake"). I get it they (can't say he - not sure) have reasons for wanting privacy, but one can't deny there are drawbacks. Could be just a gimmick also - average Joe is not memorable, but a guy with orange pantyhose over his face is building a brand. Benign, but still creepy from a gut sense. We should all try it at the next Bitcoin Conference. We all may be doing it in 10 more Orwellian years.

    • @Cronus6
      @Cronus6 Před 27 dny

      Tell that to the Samurai guys

    • @whenwasnow6062
      @whenwasnow6062 Před 27 dny

      Us? brave for not protecting your privacy? Satoshi is a wimp for being anonymous? You don't trust Bitcoin/S.Nakamoto? Jeez, one sentence from you triggered so many questions!

  • @VEGANWARRIOR
    @VEGANWARRIOR Před 27 dny +2

    Bullshit. You buy it, do self custody and stack Sats every chance you get. Stop trying to make this shit complicated. smfh

  • @darrenpalliaer8928
    @darrenpalliaer8928 Před 26 dny

    I don't mean to be cynical however my greatest fear is there will be many more thousands of podcasts for years to come of people talking about bitcoin but out in the real world very little change. So much talk,not much action. The real change is happening in places like Africa and South / Central America while in the rich Western world no real change, just talk. I hope change happens soon.

  • @thomasomalley3847
    @thomasomalley3847 Před 27 dny +2

    These guys having the exact same conversation Charles Hoskinson tried to bring up a few months back and regarded maxis had a heart attack 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @wsemenske
      @wsemenske Před 27 dny +1

      They didn't mention the shitcoin Cardano once though?

  • @s.nawfal6211
    @s.nawfal6211 Před 27 dny

    Yes, just realized that plebs can freeze all blackrock's bitcoin, lol.

  • @user-hb1qo6cu1z
    @user-hb1qo6cu1z Před 27 dny

    If bitcoin cash,(BCH) represented by Roger Ver, is so good, why don't they proceed along and mind their own business? If it is that great, and fills needs bitcoin does not, why dont they just forge ahead. I think they do have some good ideas and a great system. So I always wonder, "why all the confrontation, division,victomhood, and attacking ?"
    They spend lots of time and money attacking Bitcoin, (BTC). Their actions, including their Utube videos, show a constant attack, including revisionist history, and limited hangout falsehoods. They seem to be very, and unrealistically, well funded.
    Given the stakes involved are control over the world's money, I can't help but to be conspiratorial and suspicious when I see people act like Roger Ver.
    The best "business plans" are like bitcoin.They move along at their own volition, stick to their principals, and don't need to attack anything.

  • @robertzerby-jb1oh
    @robertzerby-jb1oh Před 27 dny

    To prevent ossification someone should propose a time limit on proposals. Where let’s say after a week deadline a majority at the time wins.

    • @CollaborateOrDecent
      @CollaborateOrDecent Před 27 dny +2

      Changes can take a long time to fully understand. And discussions need to take place. This is not a move fast and break sh1t startup anymore. People savings are at risk.

    • @knoworiginality
      @knoworiginality Před 27 dny +1

      Limiting the discussion window may allow for a bug to skip through. Consensus will come when it's ready.

  • @suunt12
    @suunt12 Před 27 dny +3

    Lol. I don't trust anyone in a mask.

    • @jordanroberts7931
      @jordanroberts7931 Před 27 dny +2

      And since I can't verify, as his hat implies. I'm just going to ignore whatever he says.

    • @anewcreature7
      @anewcreature7 Před 27 dny

      Why don’t you use photo of your face on your avatar, sir?

    • @WhiteTigerAudio
      @WhiteTigerAudio Před 9 dny

      Who asked

  • @tiekavanrensburg6432
    @tiekavanrensburg6432 Před 27 dny

    With the increase of institutions buying BTC, it will become less accessible to retail to own BTC. Will it shift retail interest towards buying BCH as it is also a PoW with a total supply of 21Mil?
    I understand BCH is a dead project, but retail will look for a coin that compares to BTC and is PoW and 21Mil.

    • @jaymoney3215
      @jaymoney3215 Před 27 dny +2

      Those poor souls will become poorer against BTC.

    • @JohnDobbertin
      @JohnDobbertin Před 27 dny

      It's not dead at all. It's more advanced than BTC and cheaper and easier to use but people are retarded.

    • @jinglebobfece4d8booglestra34
      @jinglebobfece4d8booglestra34 Před 26 dny

      ​@@jaymoney3215 it's outperformed BTC for the last year, just saying.

    • @ace1603
      @ace1603 Před 24 dny

      @@jaymoney3215 DGB might be worth a little bet.

  • @moneyevery3days7
    @moneyevery3days7 Před 27 dny

    Tezos upgrades regularly. It's the anti-ossification chain

    • @byronhambly
      @byronhambly Před 26 dny +1

      because it's a centralized shticoin