How to Paint Over Chrome
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2015
- If you have Chrome parts that you want to paint then watch this video and I will take you through the best tips for success. Your biggest problem when painting over chrome will be adhesion. So be sure to etch into the chrome surface with some coarse sandpaper or even a small grinder, in this instance I decided to use 80 grit Sand Paper on an orbital sander and did the hard to reach spots with 80 grit by hand.
Next I set the parts up on a stand in the Spray Booth.
Now we have etched into the chrome we must clean it down with Wax & Grease Remover (Prepsol), by covering the entire surface, I use an atomizer bottle and spray it on then wipe off with clean bleached rags, then use high pressured air with a tack cloth to remove any left over pieces of dust on the surface.
The next step is to mix our primer, it is very important that you use a 2 Pack Epoxy Primer, to the best of my knowledge there is no other products on the market that will give you adhesion like the Epoxy Primers will. Your average high build Automotive Primers and even Etch Primers will not stick to chrome surfaces. As always be sure to wear the correct safety gear because these primers are extremely dangerous to your health, especially Epoxy Primers with Chromate in them.
Most primers can be used either as a Wet on Wet / Non Sanding application or as a fill and sand, so depending on the quality surface you are going over you may want to seal it with epoxy to get your adhesion then do some repairs with filler then use a normal Automotive High Build Primer and continue with the job as usual. In this case I didn't need to do any repairs and the parts were in good enough nick to use the Epoxy Primer as a Wet on Wet.
In this instance I am using an Akzo Nobel product High Solids Epoxy Primer but ask your local paint supplier for a good HS Epoxy Primer andd they should have a product just as good.
Then continue with my basecoat and clearcoat the same as on any job or direct gloss 2K if required, as always observe flash off times. As always don't forget to use a paint strainer for all paint that goes into your gun.
Leave a comment below and I'll do my best to get back to any relevant questions.
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Big thanks Gun, I asked you a few months ago about painting chrome badges........now I can successfully achieve this without trying to remove the chrome, great vid.
Another great vid gunman. The sgk was my first devilbiss gun and i have to admit i had concerns over how long the little seal on the nozzle etc was going to last before leaking but you are working the bum off yours and it just keeps on spraying, they really are a great gun for the money. On another note I had my first spray out of my new pro lite yesterday, flow coated a bonnet with the te20 aircap with full fluid and 25psi, what a beautiful gun to use i pumped the clear on and the pro lite layed it like glass, just brilliant. Seriously your tips on not just spraying but also on gun choices really have been a fantastic help to me and I am sure others as well, thanks mate your work and effort on these vids is really appreciated.
Ahh checking out how to paint on chrome parts, and noticed the mean as Torana. Had one of those back in the day. Brings back good memories. Thanks for sharing.
Light medium blast with care not to warp & baking on works every well.It's one process used in coating firearms,and paint guns.
Great video for painting chrome & the car looks great! Paint On!
i just want to say thx for all that your doing and time and effort you make making these videos i ve learn alot threw these videos so far
This video was super helpful! I've been learning to paint on my own while having to do touch ups at work. After watching this I painted my Harley Bob headlight assembly and it turn out fantastic first time around. Been watching your videos the last 3 to 4 months. Thanks for the videos.
@Tim White
I came here to learn how to paint the headlights on my 2013 Fat Bob!
Same 😆 did it turn out well?
Thank you. Finally a proper video on the correct way to paint chrome.
im not a painter but im very impressed with your work.... and you get some good cars to paint... very cool,, you should be proud....
swolath I sure am, thanks mate :-)
I would move to Australia just for them cool cars😍😍😍...great video! I am going to take your advice as it looks awesome👍🏻👍🏻. Cheers!
Thanks brother, I hope I can paint my motorcycle chrome rims this way ? They are starting to peel and are pitted.
Could you repeat that?! Just gunning ya. You put out a ton of free info, more than any painter I’ve ever heard. Thank you for this video and sharing the information. Best of luck in the future. More videos please.
Exactly what I was looking for. Just bought a old ,rusty bicycle built for two, with too much surface rust on chrome parts that I could not sand off to a decent complexion. Gonna paint over that mess. Thanks.
Adhesion is the hardest thing you'll find so make sure you get a good epoxy primer and etch the surface up as good as you can.
It is a combination platter required for a functional finish. Surface prep and best possible coating/primer for the magic word...adhesion. I enjoy taking my knowledge and skills to the next level. Great demo! Thanks alot.
You are a Pro. Will keep trying to learn from you. Thanks
I've used a paint scraping wheel to scuff the chrome before sanding. 120 grit cuts fairly well when there are scratches to cut into.
Another good vid gunny. How much roughly would you charge to do a chrome bumper in gloss black? Could you get a good finish on pitted, rusted chrome?
From Canada. Great videos....all of them. Thanks !
I might try this it's better then replacement of new chrome pieces $$$$ Thanks again gunman.
Great vid. For someone that hasn’t got all that equipment and doesn’t need such a perfect finish, would it be possible to brush paint on 2 pack? I’ve got a load of chrome tubes I want to make into an outside light, but would need to paint them. Thanks
great vid mate , the car looks great in matt black reminds me of a old ford rs2000
I love your videos bro you’re super helpful thanks.
Love your work mate. Subbed!
Thanks for the tips!
Thanks, welcome aboard!!
Hey mate can you do this with chrome tap fittings with dupli colour products in spray can form?
I always watch your videos,vwey useful! ..I just bought a Devilbiss TEKNA ProLite.. Cn you tell me which is the best setup I should use to apply PPG Deltron Ceramiclear 8105 clearcoat...air pressure,tip and air cap
Bravo mate. Very informative. Thanks.
great tips, pro job, excellent video
Good morning gunny
I know this vids old mate but i had a chrome job to paint last week here in NZ
Found a rattle can product called metalcast by duplicolor supercheap autos
No sanding just iso and tack rag 3 light coats left it 24 hrs and then sprayed vht wrinkle on 1 part of a motorcycle head light and high gloss on the trim
Came out brilliant
Just saying for people who havnt got spray set up try this
I would not use it on wheels tho just incase the muppet putting on the tyre chips the paint
Cheers mate
excellent tutorial.
thank you for sharing.
Very nice work. Also, the car looks great, would like to be the owner of this beast.
Hi gunman! Did use SGK for clear aplication ? I wish know start adjust for clear coat. Thanks
How would you go about applying candies over a chrome piece of metal or plastic? I would think sanding if would be out of the question.
The way I paint over chrome has been to sandblast or beadblast it, wash it, prep it, and prime it with the same 2K I use everywhere else. The blaster gets where sandpaper will not.
That would be the best way to do it.
Is your primer dtm?
Fine until it gets a knock and flakes. Epoxy the only way mate.
Any videos on how to paint over anodized aluminum?
Where did you get that primer from? Can I get this in the UK? ... Thanks, .... Great videos as always from you, keep them coming.
I media blasted some chromed parts, but i'm concern about primer, should i primer first or skip this part and go straight to the paint???
would you recomened first using a adhesion promoter primer if you where to paint a chrome bumper after sanding? or just straight epoxy
Awesome vid i have a chrome peice on my car. that’s sticks out like a sore thumb hopefully this works for me on color matching it
Hey what is this gun your spraying with again?? looks awesome
lightly sandblast the chrome with fine grit to etch it
Dosnt need the he is a machine!
if you have chrome plated plastic trim around a grill, should you scuff it and then use SELF-ETCHING primer on it?
Nice one Gunman!
Ill upload some pics of this land curser i'm doing at work to your facebook it has a huge bullbar and side rails steps and chassis i had to paint in a satin or semi gloss finish. My boss caught me on phone during work and asked me what i was doing with this big frown on his face, I said "looking up Gunman's mixing ratio for matt finishes" He just stared at me o_0. I had to go a little bit different tho as we use water borne at work and had no black base coat, and didn't really want to order any in just for these parts and i also had to do the chassis. But i use PPG Deltron Jet Black Tinter with PPG Delfleet Matt binder the results were great got a nice satin finish was really happy with the results.
Also have ordered my SGK 600BV / $280 NZD to import from AU brought it from jefferson's paint supplies, Im hoping it arrives in time for me to try out on the body of this land cruiser which is getting painted in PPG DG Deltron. I'll share some picks on FB with you
Love you vids m8 keep up the good work
For chromed plastic trims is the same procedure in order to paint them???
Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls
Would I get this primer in a rattle can, what do I look for?
Wow good learning from you man Imma have to ask at the paint store if they have that epoxy primer I live in the U.S
www.nonpaints.com
I have tried painting my 4into1 exhaust pipes on my 1975 CB550F. Rustoleum seemed to work the best but after a day ride, bits of the flat black high temp paint chipped off. I have it a light sanding prior to painting but still is flaking off. I didn't use a primer because i don't know if it can take exhaust temp. Honestly im tired of trying this at home. I am in no way a paint guy. Lol.
Can you make a video of how to apply flake over crome
Great video!
mate just wondering as to where you got the epoxy primmer from?
Great vid Gunman. New to the whole restoration field so have followed and look forward to seeing your other productions. Now to find out whether Kiwi rules allow for the use of that primer - OSH tends toward neurotic, overprotective mummy here in the developing part of the Australasian world. ;)
+Rational Thinker 😂😂😂 I believe so
Thanks. I have been told that this product is available here. Am looking forward to having a play on some poorly chromed aftermarket bike mirror posts. Will let you know how I get on.
thanks ,,, nice and easy
Don't have a spray gun or paint booth. How can I paint on top of plastic chrome wheel center caps using rattle can paint?
Couldn't you use adhesion promoter to help with adhesion?
If I wanted to keep a chrome finish but wanted it to last. Can I paint direct with a 2k clear coat?
can someone help me, i have a bmx sprocket and its chrome i sanded it down and i put adhesionpromoter on it from duplicolor and i put chrome over it, so will it stick i need help on how to spray paint chrome, its been 2 years im stuck, anykind of help would be appreciated
good info bro keep them up
+beau pfeiffer thanks again for watching mate
great vid gunny what grit did you use to sand the chrome to prepare it for the primer
nunya your business
He said 80 grit...
Gonna try this soon, to see how it holds up
Wat a good tutorial👍
Do they sell that type primer in a spray can???
I doubt it, it'll come in cans and be a 2 pack, ask the auto shop for a 2k epoxy primer
+The Gunman thanks bro!!! Well appreciated...👍
This guy doesn't take a breath.
I edit the breathing out, would you like me to make a video of myself breathing deeply?
The Gunman
😆😂😂
The Gunman lmao
man. i swear, conversations with painters are the best. i could speculate it has something to do with being around lots of solvents all the time.
Yeah I guess working alone in a booth a lot with the added benefit of airborne chemicals, when you do finally get to talk you go at it 110% 🤪
thanks mat
Why was it painted yellow then black? Is the yellow the primer
I can hear the experience behind the information
Have you ever tried urethane primer?
My question is will the paint last or will it start to come off eventually?
good video
I painted over my chromefront and rear bumper and grill, I only laid 2 heavy coats of primer on the chrome, let it set in the sun for 8 hours, then put my spray paint over it and it's held perfect for going on 4 months now.
any advice on high-temp applications? will that epoxy hold up on a muffler job?
I'd say most likely but I recommend reading the technical data sheet to check the specs, find the epoxy you can get and ask the distributor for the heat rating or look online, most tech data sheets are online these days.
What about chrome plated plastic trim pieces found on newer cars?
I've de-chromed mine a bit and just sanded it with 240, rattle can etch primer, then a spot primer followed by paint. Will this last long term?
470Matty I'd sand then plastic prime then paint because etch primer is made for metal and those plastic chrome parts are just plastic so I'd just treat it like any other plastic part.
I don't believe chrome on plastic is actual real chromium. Simply just rough it and spray.
Thx. Got a rolling table. Support is chrome
I spray black plasti dip over the chrome . then i spray my paint on the plasti dip . I use the plasti dip like primer (on chrome) so far 3 years and it on my chrome with No peeling
thumbs up my brew!
Killa man. Really informative video!
There is another product I used on my restoration called "epotec epoxy primer" made by protec paints. I used the green one as that has the most rust inhibitors. No cromate or any thing. The hardener is like an araldite I think. It's sticky as anything. Goes on flat and sands pretty good.
One guy painted a hg in it and left it in the weather for 15 years, sanded it back and no rust under the paint. So its good stuff.
Maybe people who didn't want to spray with cromate could use a product like that. Still gotta wear ppe though as per normal.
Thought it might help :)
You can spray base right after primer without waiting ?
John Henry it’s called wet on wet, yes you can
thanks for the video fixing to paint a 2500hd bumper @thegunman
Did you ever end up painting your 2500HD bumper? If so, how did you manage to do it? I'm trying to paint my 2016 Silverado 2500HD bumper as well. I'm just now learning about the adhesion problem with chrome. Let me know man!
@@garrettsmigelski6146 I just did my 08 2500hd bumpers. I sandblasted them and then 2k primer. That's how I do all my bumpers and never had a problem. I hope this helps you.
What tip is used for the primer?
I purchased a 1-1 ratio epoxy primer and it is so thick! I sprayed through my 1.8 mil primer gun and it is hard to spray out! I asked paint rep if i could thin it out, but he said it would take away from the rust inhibitor properties.
Ive just purchased a new primer gun with 2.2 mil tip. Havent had a chance to use it yet. Im really stressed that i cant do wet on wet with colour, because of how orange peely the primer is, do to the thick viscosity.
Any suggestions?
splash What about lightly thinning a second coat and flogging it on to level it out? I am 24 yr exp painter/body guy,.....just a suggestion,......hoping Gunman chimes in on it though, I don't use Epoxy that much anymore.
bodymanruss518
Makes sense! Just dont know what thinner/reducer would be compatible.
Thanks
Gunny I use that Epoxy Primer almost everyday in the Aviation industry. Tough as nails once dried you can even wipe it with M.E.K. and it won't lift..or smudge. Down side highly toxic and if ya need to strip off it takes about 2-3 rounds of stripper which can be time consuming and a pain in the ass.
Scott F Yeah I know it stinks ay :-)
same here brotha. aircraft painter. we started using the hentzen fast dry this past year (30min-1.5 hrs depending how thick), as opposed to the old deft one which took 4+ hrs to dry. it kicks ass.
+buk283 give it a try .....dry times always an issue.
nice demo mate!
Hi bud can you 2k clear over polished alloy wheels
I don't think standard 2k clear would stick. I seem to remember DNA custom paints had a clear that sticks to bare metal.
Couldn't you media blast the chrome for prep?
Yeah can do, anything that will rip into the chrome
Try Glass bead blasting it.. Chrome is always a 'Love-Hate" relationship.. It's beautiful, but you can't do much with it..
Would it start chipping? Because I have my car at a place to get repainted and I wanted my chrome little rear spoiler the same color as my car and the dude told me it will start chipping if he paints it.
It's one of those things I can't guarantee will stick, so if a customer insists on painting them I always tell them I can't guarantee it. Using epoxy primer is the only way to get half a chance of adhesion, basically follow the steps in this video for best chance of adhesion.
What is the current condition of the painted parts after many years of use?it chipped?
beautiful work. I hope there is an epoxy primer in a can since I don't have spray gun, or spray booth. Kewl car too!
There is 😉
www.nonpaints.com
Would sand blasting be enough to prep it for paint?
I think it would be as long as it's removed some of the outer coating
The Gunman Thanks for the reply m8
awesome
There’s nothing better than playing The Gunman theme music while I paint some shit brah. 😏
Nice. Can I send you some parts...😆
Perth must be cool man , your accent sounds like you're from Sydney but I sensed no ego in your voice so I was puzzled lol , good that you mentioned it... Doing this on a little Japanese wooden steering wheel ... Good tutorial. Any ideas of a way (apart from that Plastidip shit) to paint it black but not ruin the chrome if you know what I mean mate?
Adhesion is the biggest issue you'll have when painting over chrome and if you want it to stick I do recommend scuffing it up as much as possible then using an epoxy primer, normal etch primers just won't cut it over chrome but it sounds like you want to be able to revert back to chrome later which will be your only problem. Yeah I'm from Melbs and even find after living in Perth for 4 years and going back they are a bit up themselves too, Perth is on the whole a better place if you ask me, better people I reckon.
The wheel will get a full scuff as you recommend mate and I will get the epoxy primer , keep the great work up! Hope to learn how to paint with your tutorials , pls in future do one for an absolute beginners on a budget starting up and maybe advice on beginner gear , how much to spend or to start with cans VS gun etc ... Cheers !
I usually sand with 320p an then plastic primer and then normal primer and paint. Has worked so far for me :)
That chrome primer is no joke. Your entire room needs specialized ventilation and you should be wearing a full body suit and face shield respirator.
The epoxy primer took care of the 80 grit sanding scratches and straight to color huh?
That's what I was thinking how come he didn't go 120 180 220 then 320 etc to get rid of the 80 scratches is the epoxy primer that magical? Cmon now
I just wasn't shure if it really works out that way. Looks good in the vid. Im going over some thin shit chrome in a few weeks.
bare metal doesn't hold a scratch its why u can polish it to a shine when u use softer grits of sandpaper. chrome acts like bare metal if it isn't coated with anything else and u don't remove it all the way
Any hand sanding or just leave any shiny spots?
Gunman is that the best Epoxy primer on the ozzie market ?
clevo351 I think so
Or Brunox epoxy or 2k spraymax epoxy...
Painted chrome wheels: czcams.com/video/0NSbptsR_oU/video.html
Best prep is to sand blast
Ben jij daar zo zeker van? Ik heb bijna alle stukken gezandstraalt van mijn moto, vergeet niet dat gezandstraalt ijzer na een tijdje oxideerd en roest indien je er geen grondlaag spuitmastic en dit en dat... Chrome roest niet de perfecte onderlaag, als je daar een goede hechtende grondverf op zet ben je weer vertrokken. Want er is geen enkele lak zo roestvrij als chrome, als we dat lak mogen noemen tenminste.
g'day mate come and do my Toyota Coaster motorhome for me lol. some parts will be Chrome. my Toyota Coaster motorhome is on CZcams if you want to look at it. it needs a look of work on it but one day it will be on the road soon. im from Lithgow Australia
i notice all your guns seem to be gravity fed. why is this? any advantages to gravity fed?
Backofthefield They are more efficient and easier to use
thanks for that
Sanding
primer and
spray paint thats it
and clear
nozzle for epoxsi 1.3mm?
MirzaAlma yes
Are the gravity fed guns they sell at Supercheap a "name brand" or are they just crap.
Crap, just chinese guns rebranded , I have a couple here and use them for primer and will throw them away when they start to fail. The difference between them and the sgk is huge, better of paying the extra for a good gun i wish I hadn't wasted money on the cheap crap before buying something decent.
Sherie Thomas hi sherie if the price of the guns are super cheap im sure ther not worth buying :)
Sherie Thomas It depends on what you are trying to paint. If you are painting cars or anything that requires a really nice finish. Then and supercheap guns are super crap. If you are painting the fence or house then they do an ok job. However they are crap quality and the seals fail pretty quickly (they leaking paint). They are also air pigs so this will effect the quality of your finish. Spend $200 and get the SGK. As the gunman says, it punches above its weight
Would you still use epoxy primer on plastic chrome pieces?
I've used an etch primer before but epoxy primer would be preferable.
What kind of car is that?