Nice find! I was surprised to see that this HP has an AIO cooler, thats always nice. I suggest you upgrade it with a gtx 1650 for about $50 if you dont want external power but if you do, then a gtx 1660 super for $90 or lower (it wont bottleneck the 4770). I also suggest you benchmark a diffrent version of minecraft, the one you have is the microsoft store version im pretty sure and its automatically capped at 60 fps. And I suggest you add GTA V to your benchmarks because it's a popular one out there! Anyways nice vid and goodluck with the channel
That's a 600w psu with dual 6 pin pcie cables. Get a dual 6 pin to single 8 pin adapter and he could go with a much faster card, a gtx 1080 or rtx 2080 or even a rtx 3060ti. Having a little too much gpu for your cpu is always a good problem to have.
Awesome Job Brotha! Trying to FINALLY get my Garage Setup & Build a Workbench, so when the Kids and I clean up a Trash Picked PC we cleanup for Gaming, we could possibly build it into a Small Arcade Cab.
That processor would pair nicly with an rx580 or a 1660 if you are team green... that 650 is dx11 only... The processor is decent for a 4 core 8 thread processor... even the 3770 can still game... At least this one is DDR4
My current rig is an HP Envy 700 Series, purchased new from PC World "here in the UK" in 2015, The only upgrades I have carried were to change out the graphics cards GT1050 "no power cord" and my current one is an Nvidia GT1060 6GB, "power cord" and have yet to install a 2TB SSD, as my drive currently is a 2TB HDD slow to boot.
That motherboard has a slot for an MSATA SSD next to the DIMM slots. I know because I have a similar PC that I'm not currently using anymore because I've used it for parts.
Oh very cool find! I'd have to try a Radeon Pro WX4100 and an RX580 8gb if I were doing an upgrade. I know the RX580 would probably outperform the WX4100 but if you're just playing a lot of retro titles at 1080P it could be very close and much less power usage on the newer PRO card.
sure about that? Driving an RX 580 to less demand might actually make the power difference between the two minimal. I'd rather have the headroom, just in case I wanted to run something that was more demanding. Also... "newer PRO card" ??? Nope, the RX 580 is about 5 months newer than the WX 4100, and has twice the VRAM (with twice as wide bus), at least twice the shaders, higher clockspeeds... It will SMOKE the workstation card. According to Techpowerup, (take that with a grain of salt,) RX 580 is 244% as fast as the WX 4100.
I almost matched your Heaven benchmark with a N5105 mini pc -- that GPU is awful. I tried out a bunch of low profile/no extra power needed GPU's not too long ago, and the top 2 were pretty much somewhat derided choices -- An RTX3050-6Gb and an RX6400. Both were under $160 when I bought them (new), both are capable of ray tracing (although you really don't want to use them for that), and both are better than an Arc 380. Of course, a GTX1650 super outruns all of them (but no raytracing - and you'll need a PCIE power connector). If that helps...
Recently upgraded my 2500k to a 3770k until i can source a Z board for a 10600k my son gave me when he upgraded, surprising how much difference Hyper Threading can make.
I found a HP Pavilion with 12 gBram and an I5-12400 processor with a RX500 for 125 dollars. I keep looking to the same vendor because he seems to put one of two pcs per month crazy low.
I still have my i7-4790 from 6 years ago paired with a RTX 3060ti and 32 gb of ram for Aaa titles. Good thing to know im not the only one still using old hardware :'v
I'd probably suggest a 3050 6gb to run through just PCIe power, but I'm running a 1070 with my 4th gen i7 (4790), and it's still an extremely capable machine.
60fps... dude, how many times have I told you about this? You're still running games that top out at 60fps as "benchmarks;" that doesn't prove anything other than "it's adequate". You need to run stuff that is uncapped. Meaning NO fighting games like Street Fighter/Mortal Kombat, no Elden Ring, no Microsoft Store Minecraft... IDK maybe look at GTA V, RDR 2, Witcher III Wild Hunt (which is on sale right now for the low-low price of $3.99 through the rest of today only). Hell, I'm almost broke and my cheap ass picked it up for that price just now! Anyway... those are all kinda 3rd-person open world games, wish I knew what to tell you about variety. Maybe others have some suggestions for games you should benchmark. But Hot Wheels? Left 4 Dead 2? Who plays this?
that GPU is e-waste. It might have been "just okay" at the time that system was built. It was hardly "gaming," as you say; the GT x40 series cards were upper low-end if that makes any sense... yeah, I didn't think it did either. Notice there's no such thing as a "GT 1040"; apparently even NVIDIA thought this was a bad idea eventually (there WAS a GT 740). Anyway, GT 640 doesn't support anything higher than DX11, and even that it supports badly because it's just so slow (DDR3). With a GTX 1050 (non-Ti, but with 4GB VRAM) I scored 49.8fps (1253) on Heaven for Linux with same (I guess; I ran it and didn't change anything) settings. IDK if the Windows and Linux versions are directly comparable score-wise since the Linux version runs in OpenGL instead of DX11, but the visuals seem about the same... anyway, that's about the minimum card I'd recommend for using with a Haswell-based PC without supplemental power. Well, actually maybe a Quadro K1200 would work well, too; never tried one but it sounds okay. Based on Maxwell (not Kepler) it has only 512 shaders but it does have 4GB VRAM and supports DX12 and NVENC, so it should be at least a little better than a GT 1030, and is available for cheap. Might be a good budget option for an older rig like this; I'd like to see benchmark results of that. But realistically a Haswell i7 wants something more like a GTX 1070 for BEST results. Or a GTX 1660. Also RX 580. Anything of that class, really, would allow it to stretch its legs.
Nice find! I was surprised to see that this HP has an AIO cooler, thats always nice. I suggest you upgrade it with a gtx 1650 for about $50 if you dont want external power but if you do, then a gtx 1660 super for $90 or lower (it wont bottleneck the 4770).
I also suggest you benchmark a diffrent version of minecraft, the one you have is the microsoft store version im pretty sure and its automatically capped at 60 fps. And I suggest you add GTA V to your benchmarks because it's a popular one out there! Anyways nice vid and goodluck with the channel
That's a 600w psu with dual 6 pin pcie cables. Get a dual 6 pin to single 8 pin adapter and he could go with a much faster card, a gtx 1080 or rtx 2080 or even a rtx 3060ti. Having a little too much gpu for your cpu is always a good problem to have.
@@JamesSmith-sw3nk gtx 2080? 😅🤣
@@jonathanparker123 It was a simple typo. GFY.
Awesome Job Brotha!
Trying to FINALLY get my Garage Setup & Build a Workbench, so when the Kids and I clean up a Trash Picked PC we cleanup for Gaming, we could possibly build it into a Small Arcade Cab.
That processor would pair nicly with an rx580 or a 1660 if you are team green... that 650 is dx11 only... The processor is decent for a 4 core 8 thread processor... even the 3770 can still game... At least this one is DDR4
Its 4th gen it has ddr3 he even says that
When I had a i7 4770 I had it paired with a GTX 970, worked great. No power option I would use a 1050ti
If you want to, you can change your original PSU to a semi-modular or modular PSU. Less cable management to deal with it.
Who can imagine such beautiful looking pc is already 10 years old?
I have a hp 8300 I overclocked the cpu and bought a gpu and ram. Plays Fortnite at 240 fps creative
My current rig is an HP Envy 700 Series, purchased new from PC World "here in the UK" in 2015, The only upgrades I have carried were to change out the graphics cards GT1050 "no power cord" and my current one is an Nvidia GT1060 6GB, "power cord" and have yet to install a 2TB SSD, as my drive currently is a 2TB HDD slow to boot.
A GTX 1050ti or 1650ti would probably be my choice of graphic cards without the external power cable
That motherboard has a slot for an MSATA SSD next to the DIMM slots. I know because I have a similar PC that I'm not currently using anymore because I've used it for parts.
if you want to avoid an extra cable, Gigabyte rx460 single fan
Oh very cool find! I'd have to try a Radeon Pro WX4100 and an RX580 8gb if I were doing an upgrade. I know the RX580 would probably outperform the WX4100 but if you're just playing a lot of retro titles at 1080P it could be very close and much less power usage on the newer PRO card.
sure about that? Driving an RX 580 to less demand might actually make the power difference between the two minimal. I'd rather have the headroom, just in case I wanted to run something that was more demanding.
Also... "newer PRO card" ??? Nope, the RX 580 is about 5 months newer than the WX 4100, and has twice the VRAM (with twice as wide bus), at least twice the shaders, higher clockspeeds... It will SMOKE the workstation card. According to Techpowerup, (take that with a grain of salt,) RX 580 is 244% as fast as the WX 4100.
I almost matched your Heaven benchmark with a N5105 mini pc -- that GPU is awful. I tried out a bunch of low profile/no extra power needed GPU's not too long ago, and the top 2 were pretty much somewhat derided choices -- An RTX3050-6Gb and an RX6400. Both were under $160 when I bought them (new), both are capable of ray tracing (although you really don't want to use them for that), and both are better than an Arc 380. Of course, a GTX1650 super outruns all of them (but no raytracing - and you'll need a PCIE power connector). If that helps...
Maybe unpopular but I’d like to see an ARC A310 and a RX480.
I thought you need rebar enabled for this ARC cards?
you need rebar to utilize it's full performance, it can works well on older pc
1050ti or 1650 for non-power, or 1660 super/ rx 580 with power.
Recently upgraded my 2500k to a 3770k until i can source a Z board for a 10600k my son gave me when he upgraded, surprising how much difference Hyper Threading can make.
I found a HP Pavilion with 12 gBram and an I5-12400 processor with a RX500 for 125 dollars. I keep looking to the same vendor because he seems to put one of two pcs per month crazy low.
This HP Also Has Msata Port On Motherboard
Might Be have Msata SSD With HP Recovey partition
I have a 4770 paird with a rtx 2060s
I still have my i7-4790 from 6 years ago paired with a RTX 3060ti and 32 gb of ram for Aaa titles. Good thing to know im not the only one still using old hardware :'v
I still have my i7 4790 with rx580 and 32gb ram
i just got my i5 7200U and Geforce 940MX and 4 gigs of ram... 2133MHz (Laptop)
Damn what a gang! 😅
Good score. Never seen a water cooled HP.
Kills the $100 build challenge.
try to get a 1060 6 gb i miss mine i had. loved it
It would be best if you made a sleeper out of this pc.
Rtx 3050 6gb will be the best❤
gracias for the content, i am running dell xps8940 10400 with 1050ti as htpc try rhat and a 3050 and arc a310 peace
I'd probably suggest a 3050 6gb to run through just PCIe power, but I'm running a 1070 with my 4th gen i7 (4790), and it's still an extremely capable machine.
i just picked up a system a i7-10700F 16gb ram 1650 for 150$
i have a i7 4770 with a 1660 with power
my partner has a i7 4770 with a 1650 no power
Could you try it with a t400 4gb?
w video ❤🔥🔥
Try Linux on it when you upgrade the GPU it makes a difference in performance
With Nvidia it'll be a rough time until the 555 driver is shipped ootb. 6.8 kernel and current drivers are.... interesting. Usable but interesting.
@@VektrumSimulacrum 555 driver can be had. Maybe it's not packaged with distros ootb. But you can get it. I'm running it. With 6.9.7 kernel.
@SeeJayPlayGames Bazzite got it in last weekend's update. Ublue ships it ootb now.
640 - the only good part of it, that it's better,then 630 😅
What gpus could I use in my hp z2 g4 tower
surprised it can run fortnite
60fps... dude, how many times have I told you about this? You're still running games that top out at 60fps as "benchmarks;" that doesn't prove anything other than "it's adequate". You need to run stuff that is uncapped. Meaning NO fighting games like Street Fighter/Mortal Kombat, no Elden Ring, no Microsoft Store Minecraft... IDK maybe look at GTA V, RDR 2, Witcher III Wild Hunt (which is on sale right now for the low-low price of $3.99 through the rest of today only). Hell, I'm almost broke and my cheap ass picked it up for that price just now! Anyway... those are all kinda 3rd-person open world games, wish I knew what to tell you about variety. Maybe others have some suggestions for games you should benchmark. But Hot Wheels? Left 4 Dead 2? Who plays this?
that GPU is e-waste. It might have been "just okay" at the time that system was built. It was hardly "gaming," as you say; the GT x40 series cards were upper low-end if that makes any sense... yeah, I didn't think it did either. Notice there's no such thing as a "GT 1040"; apparently even NVIDIA thought this was a bad idea eventually (there WAS a GT 740). Anyway, GT 640 doesn't support anything higher than DX11, and even that it supports badly because it's just so slow (DDR3).
With a GTX 1050 (non-Ti, but with 4GB VRAM) I scored 49.8fps (1253) on Heaven for Linux with same (I guess; I ran it and didn't change anything) settings. IDK if the Windows and Linux versions are directly comparable score-wise since the Linux version runs in OpenGL instead of DX11, but the visuals seem about the same... anyway, that's about the minimum card I'd recommend for using with a Haswell-based PC without supplemental power. Well, actually maybe a Quadro K1200 would work well, too; never tried one but it sounds okay. Based on Maxwell (not Kepler) it has only 512 shaders but it does have 4GB VRAM and supports DX12 and NVENC, so it should be at least a little better than a GT 1030, and is available for cheap. Might be a good budget option for an older rig like this; I'd like to see benchmark results of that.
But realistically a Haswell i7 wants something more like a GTX 1070 for BEST results. Or a GTX 1660. Also RX 580. Anything of that class, really, would allow it to stretch its legs.
RX 6400
RX 6600
RTX 3050
my dads going to buy me an ryzen 5 5600 pc :D
Yikes, GPU?
@@TRJ_BAKED No Yikes. an R5 5600 is like twice as fast as a i7 4770. Hopefully he can pair it with at least an RX 6600 or RTX 3060
Hell yeah!
That GPU is e-waste. Get a 3060 12 GB