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Maglor Casts a Silmaril into the Sea - Ted Nasmith
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death of feanor - Jenny Dolfen
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Maedhross Rescue from Thangorodrim - Ted Nasmith
Thangorodrim - chmiel
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White Lady of the Noldor - Marya Filatova
Maglor - Jenny Dolfen
The Kinslaying at Alqualonde - Ted Nasmith
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From this video I am just realising how horrible Elrond's life actually was the grand scheme of things. He lost both his parents when he was a child, watched many of his kin being slaughtered. Then when he grew older lost his adopted father due to the Silmaril. He then lost his twin brother to mortality. And when all is good centuries later he loses his wife and then more centuries after that he is going to lose his daughter to mortality just as he had lost his brother.
So I am sorry to those who live in middle earth in the third age who believe that they have a hard life but I'm quite sure Elrond takes the whole cake at this point in his life.
PS: Great video I love it when you talk about the individual characters in the Silmarillion. 👍❤
It's times like these that I remember Eru Illuvatar himself referred to mortality not as the doom of men, but rather the GIFT of men. The clear implication being that in Arda, at least, death has an actual purpose. The elves don't know what it is, and if the Valar do, they've chosen not to share, but the great creator clearly has a plan.
As far as who has the most tragic life story, that is definitely a competitive category for Tolkien characters, but I'd still give the nod to Turin Turambar.
@@davidlundquist1979 I haven’t actually gotten round to reading the Silmarillion but I hear that his life story was tragic and I have agree with that the Valar perceived mortality as a gift of men so that life and death would always have a purpose and a meaning.
@@davidlundquist1979 definitely it's Turin
@@PseudoNym100 Hurin also had it pretty bad.
@@anatoldenevers237 yeah, good call. He probably does beat out Turin for hardest life.
Maglor is my second favorite of the sons of Fëanor. He comes off as a gentler soul than his brothers, though of course he's still guilty of the kinslayings.
Also he raised Elrond and Elros...
He is Close to S tier, if I tier list the Feanor's Family.
Who is your favourite son? Mine is Maedhros
@@AETHL It's a pity that Maedhros and Maglor had to live with The Oath longest, as the ones who were least inclined to follow it.
@@AETHL I don’t like Feanors son’s. My favorite elves among the Caliquendi were Fingolfin and Finrod Felagund.
@@SonofSethoitaeTruly, Maedhros especially can come across as cold and ruthless in his last years... and yet, his reasoning for going through with the theft of the last two Silmarils confirms him to be a kind and empathetic soul at heart, grown ugly through strife, defeat and a very stupid magical oath made centuries prior, long before he knew better of the world and the Enemy's mind.
Given that Tolkien himself never really told of Maglor's final fate, small wonder why there are multiple fanfictions out there of him living through the Third Age and actually returning to Aman based on educated guesses on what really happened.
Fanon treats Maglor as this Gentle brother but really, he's brutal, especially to betrayers, deeply loyal and committed to their cause. I love him and his fate is one of the saddest in Tolkien lore. My vote for the most saddest is on Turin cause really the guy has the worst luck🤣.
2:05 this is officially my favorite drawing of Fëanor. Covered in (most likely) elvish blood and with sheer madness in his eyes. Just 'Chef kiss'.
I always kind of pictured him as being the last Elf in Middle Earth, and maybe teaching humans songs based on his life, so that the stories of his time would remain and be passed on.
Yeah its like teaching children right from wrong and not to let history repeat itself. He is truly a Minstrel. Thats why they called him "The mighty Singer".
I once read a fanfiction about Maglor in the modern world. If I recall correctly, his oath somehow prevented him from "fading," which he would have found preferable to immortality.
@@jaggedjottings Sounds more of a theory but it still possible it would happened. Like he is being cursed to lived a life of misery without aging or fading.
While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea:
"The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth."
Letter 131
"The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea."
Concerning... The Hoard
Maglor's death is also implied:
"The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants."
LotR
"Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven."
Shibboleth of Feanor
@@Tar-Elenion Hmm, I hadn't read those versions before. Is it bad that I still prefer to use the Maglor being sad for eternity version?
There have been some pretty tragic characters in Tolkien's world like Fingon, Elrond and even Maedhros and Turin but I don't think anyone has ever suffered as Maglor has. I'd say their fates although tragic are preferable to endless wandering filled with regret and sadness. The guilt he carried, the trauma with how everything and everyone he's ever loved taken away from him and the things he's done even if he didn't want to.... it just hurts thinking about this character.
Maglor is one of my favorite characters in the entire Tolkien's universe so i'm really glad you made a video on him... I've literally been waiting for this video since the day you announced that you'd make videos on all the sons of feanor.
There was no endless wandering, as the story developed. Tolkien had Maglor kill himself.
@@Tar-Elenion In this particular case, isn't the distinction somewhat meaningless? Whether still in his body, wandering the shores of the world, or a soul imprisoned in the Halls of Mandos, Maglor is still a self-aware being, haunted by his past deeds, fated to exist as long as the world lasts.
@@davidlundquist1979 I don't think it is meaningless. The post I responded to is based on Maglor having survived (the case in Tolkien's pre LotR writings). With LotR and post LotR Tolkien changed Maglor's fate.
Saw a Nerd of the Rings notification. I'm in.
I've waited for this. The dutifully sons are always so layered!
He's my fav in feanor's children i wish
there was more about him if they let elrond try to find him but they left his story with open ending
I always wondered where Maglor would be in the second and third ages. Maybe with his foster son in Rivendell
Maybe, what would have Happened if he heard about his other foster son, became a king of men.
He was dead. So the Halls of Mandos.
@@Tar-Elenion Maglor is the only surviving son of Feänor
@@juliankoning907 While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea:
"The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth."
Letter 131
"The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea."
Concerning... The Hoard
Maglor's death is also implied:
"The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants."
LotR
"Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven."
Shibboleth of Feanor
I believe (not based on writings) that Maglor lived during the second age on the island of himling, which was flooded as a consequence of the fall of Numenor, taking Maglor into the sea.
Yay! My fave sad elf! Lost the opportunity to inform the peeps of how Maglor reigned as King Regent during Mae's years of capture btw. Poor Maglor, serving as King (regent) in an untimely fashion- instead of the crown passing to him in peace, it passes to him through death (Finwe and Feanor) and loss (Maedhros). Wasldkfjsllksjfs idk, I just like to think to myself how often Maglor is forgotten as a kingly figure of the First Age. Kinda adds to the tragedy of his character. The second son of Feanor; the last survivor and all but a whisper in history.
Really hope some production company (better than Amazon) will pick up some of these incredible stories and turn them into a series. I'd love to see a 'Sons Of Fëanor' series! How epic it would be...
Your pronunciation of Maedhros (and all the other names) is just outstanding!
The fan art for this vid was AWESOME! My favorite was when Elwing casts herself into the sea and you can see Ulmo there, ready to catch her!🥰😁🍻🧝♂️🧝♀️🧙♂️
That's Elwing
@@Aioradeleo27 thanks! 🍻
Yeah, I also immediately thought how beautiful the artwork of Elwing and Ulmo is when i first saw it :D
Would love to see you do a video of Prince Imrahil and his family history! 😉
I was wondering the other day if Maglor would have been able to hold mastery over Sauron in songs of power had he been at Tol-en-Gaurhoth with Beren and Finrod. I think so. 🤔
"Maglor was mighty among the singers of old, named only after Daeron of Doriath." -- Quenta Silmarillion, "Of the Voyage of Earendil and the War of Wrath"
While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea:
"The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth."
Letter 131
"The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea."
Concerning... The Hoard
Maglor's death is also implied:
"The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants."
LotR
"Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven."
Shibboleth of Feanor
Thanks, I was going to point this out, too.
Excellent! I always had a feeling Maglor did not long survive Maedhros; now it appears he may not have survived him at all.
@@istari0 That does seem the intention of JRRT, though I don't consider it excellent.
I prefer the version where he survives and wanders the shore singing his lament...
But people reciting the history, should be informed of the history...
@@Tar-Elenion To each his own of course. To me, Maglor was still a brutal person, just not as brutal as his kin. I think he would have gotten himself killed in fairly short order.
I'm about to insert Maglor in my One ring campaign, and this video is pure gold
Love your first age content the most, I personally think that the first age is the most interesting out of all the ages and the Silmarillion has to be Tolkien’s greatest work in my opinion
I have come across this channel by chance, and i binged watched it! I am so full of awe that you did all that research and created interesting and beautiful films!
As with the rest of your content that I've been binge-watching, this is utterly fantastic. Your music choices are perfect, too!
There is so much poetry and emotion in your videos, I'm so moved.
I love the sons of Feanor videos. ❤️
Have only discovered the channel a month ago and I've already watched 80-90% of your videos. Great content! 👌👌
I found that moment captured in the painting in the thumbnail one of those memorable key moments that seared themselves into my brain when reading The Silmarillion long ago.
The sons of Feanor have the most heartbreaking story...the whole family had so much potential to do good (well, maybe not Curufin) but because of their stupid oath they spent a lifetime doubling down on something they knew was wrong.
Do we know what were the consequences of not following the oath? It must have been something terrible so not even a gentle soul like Maglor would dare to break it.
Probably like how the Army of Isildur were cursed after their death by not fullfilling their oath? There's no release unless Eru himself releases them, so there's no turning back cuz even if they go back living in Valinor, they shall never find peace. It's stated in the video.
They swore by Eru Illuvatar and all possible holiness in their world, I think they simply were not able - for they were still Elves and true at least to their word - to break it
It becomes more of a compulsion than a fear of consequences, although there's that, too.
Oaths in Tolkien are powerful, oaths made in the name of the gods are even more powerful. So it's very likely that should they have broke their oath they would have been doomed to madness. Of course their particular oath doomed them to madness anyway, so it's hard to say wich would have been worse.
By the time of the third kinslaying the War of Wrath had already taken place and the Noldor were no longer exiled from Valinor. He and Maedhros have a back and forth discussing the consequences of their oath before they take the two silmarils back and they make a good point, that all who they named in their oath, apart from their father had forgiven them and if Manwe and Varda declair and oath voided then how is it an active oath at all? But they choose to honor their father rather than return to Valinor
I think because of his repentance of his actions and his success in raising Elrond and Elros into great people who did nothing but good in the world, and never repeated his own horrific mistakes, Maglor was shown pity and eventually allowed back into Aman. I don’t think it happened immediately, though. He probably did linger alone and wander Middle-earth for centuries, which was the Valar’s way of punishing him. Then when he’d served his sentence long enough, he was allowed back. I believe that he, and also the sons of Elrond, sailed on the Last Ship along with Círdan and Celeborn.
Maglor - hero of my fanfiction on Quora and my favourite son of Fëanor.
I discovered your channel recently, while fleeeing the world into middle-earth again after 15 years with all the new book releases, and I really enjoy the small videos, thank you.
Some questions popped into my head, while watching some videos:
Do the istari need a staff to do magic? What is its purpose in the process?
What do the Dwarves eat, when they live in the mountains and can't be expected to produce anything? Do they get all the subsistence produce through trade?
Cheers from the land that inspired Tolkien a bit in the "design" of Gandalf
Yeah if I was to do a show of Lord of Rings, I would want to highlight the darkness of the first Dark Lord Morgoth as my main villain throughout the show with nods to other villains like Gothmog, Sauron, and Glaurang.
From a hero/anit-hero perspective, you could center the show around Feanor and then eventually his two noteworthy sons of Maedhros and Maglor and show their journey and how much the toll of the Oath of Feanor caused them to be at some points heroes (Battles against Morgoth's forces), but then suddenly villains (1st, 2nd, & 3rd kinslayings).
The main plot when the story ends would be to show how Maglor eventually showed true regret for his past deeds and then wanted to make it as right as he could by his care of Elrond and Elros while you then see how Maedrhos having regret, but couldn't let go of the Oath of Feanor and it leading to his eventual suicide.
If this show succeeded, you could then pass the torch to their descendent Celebrimbor and the story that Rings of Power is doing a poor job of executing currently! They (a) mis-casted him because he looks 50+ years old and he's an elf, (2) he shows no good wisdom or knowledge as a blacksmith, and (3) the show completely rushed his making of the Rings of Power because he made the 3 rings 90 years after making the 9 and 7 rings of power, and then Sauron made his one ring 10 or so years after the 3 rings!
Been waiting for this one for years now!
Looking forward to your videos of the other sons of Fëanor. Caranthir, Celegorm, Amrod and Amras. I'd also love to see one of Nerdanel. If possible. No pressure. Love these videos.
Yes, a Nerdanel video! We support giving more attention to Tolkien’s female characters, who are few and far between!
yay you're back to this type of content!!
I recently read the book silmarillon. Brilliant book. We always appreciate your hard work and time to make these videos. Love from Sri Lankan fan of you.
Love it thanks for all the info!!!!
Another great video about an interesting character, awesome!
I was so excited to see you continued your videos on the Sons of Feanor with Maglor. He is one of the sons that fascinate me the most especially with the detail of him wandering the shores forever. It is always such a sad melancholy feeling I get thinking of that. To have some of the greatest sorrows of the First Age reside solely in the one person for eternity. What are your thoughts on his existence past the end of the War of Wrath? I never was satisfied with just that. Do you think he died eventually or faded? Did he depart for Valinor or did he ever end up in the halls of Mandos? Let me know and thank you for another Amazing video!
I've been waiting for this
Another great video
I've always wondered why, after reclaiming the two Silmarils after the War of Wrath, did they not bring them to the Valar. The oath was to take the Silmarils from whoever stole them and held them. If I were them I'd have taken the two back to Valinor and meet with Manwe saying,
"In evil wrath we swore an oath against all who would take and keep our Father's Silmarils from him and his kin. Now with blood stained hands we appear before you oath nearly full-filled save for the one remaining Silmaril you have place within the sky above. We humbly ask for its return so that we may fulfill this wicked binding oath and freely give unto you the complete set of three. After which we will accept any punishment you decree. However, if you do not see fit to aid in our release, please send our spirits to dwell with our kin within the Halls of Mandos now and keep the two gems of light we have brought with us. For until all three Silmarils are reunited in the hands of those that swore the oath, we must pursue them until we draw breath no more. Failing to fulfill the oath shall doom us to everlasting darkness, but pursuing it here and now after so many atrocities will lead but to the same darkness for us and despair upon others. For these reasons we ask not for forgiveness nor pardon, but for aid and judgement and give freely to you what our Father so coveted."
maybe they weren't as smart as you.
AWESOME VIDEO, I think I replayed the last two minutes like a hundred times already, Maedhros and Maglors story is my favourite bit in Tolkien's writing. What's the background music?
Matt can you make a video about languages of tolkien's world ?!
I’m listening to the Children of Hurin for the first time and thought of an interesting idea for a ‘what if’ scenario…
What if the Union of Maethros hadn’t been betrayed by the Easterlings and had been successful? What if the elves and men had been victorious in the Nirnaeth? Would these final actions of Maglor and Maethros come to pass sooner? Would they have been avoided entirely? What would’ve been the fate of Beleriand and its many cities and the Noldor?
Great ep as always, Maglor’s foster fathership and regrets make him one of the most tragic of the sons of Feanor to me
Then he stole a boat and crashed into Dreamland, and met Kirby the Dream Warrior
5:30 But why wouldn’t they go after Luthien? Like I get it as she’s really beautiful and all but aren’t they driven by their oath under Eru’s name? Was there like some special protection on her or is it really just because she was that fair with it
I believe it is because they feared her, so powerful was her magics. She survived encounters with both Morgoth and Sauron, so my guess is they did not dare go against her.
Love some videos on the sons of Feanor ❤. I often wonder what became of Maglor in the end. Did he ever make it to the halls of Mandos or is he still wandering the coast out there? I tend to think he’s stuck in Middle Earth. Love to hear theories on this though because it’s definitely left open!
With his hands burned by the Silmaril, Maglor can no longer play his harp. He wanders by the sea, singing unaccompanied.
Hey :) It would be really cool to also have references to former or newer versions of the Silmarillion as in the Lost Tales
Sad story yet so fascinating
Maglor lives. He found his way to Himring. With a Palantir, he has watched the ages pass until the time of Dagor Dagoroth. Maglor the Musician inspires free people all over Middle Earth. His self imposed exile is to prevent anymore conflict with elves.
Its possible maybe, due of being cursed. He chose his old home now island as his personal exile and prison. Living a life of a hermit in misery. Never to come out or to return to Valinor ever again. Sad...
While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea:
"The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth."
Letter 131
"The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea."
Concerning... The Hoard
Maglor's death is also implied:
"The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants."
LotR
"Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven."
Shibboleth of Feanor
@Tar-Elenion Maranwe this is the ultimate response with facts on CZcams I've seen thus far. Well done sir! For my part of the story, I'm using the history of the Silmarillion where his fate was left open.
Silmarillion readers: Nothing. Narrator: Surprise, b-------, it's the f'ing sons of Feanor again!
Hey, I have a question for you, where do you get the music you use in your videos? Thanks!
Not to be confused with the Kirby character Magolor.
I used to get their names mixed up all the time lol
Love the video,what is the background song you use,I love it
Hi Nerd!
This is far the best video about Feanor's sons. Even if Maedhros is surely the one with the most entertaining life. Thank you
my headcanon is, Maglor still alive with us in Modern Times.
Where did you find that map of Beleriand? I found one just like it on DeviantArt (by user LamaArcana) but it's in Italian.
Hello, awesome content like always. I am a fan of LotR myself,
but there is something bothering me:
Why making the painful and dangerous journey from the home of the hobbits -to Bree - to Weatherpeak - to Elrond - to the mountains - through Moria - to Lorien - to Anduin - to the Black Gate - to the wild lands - to Osgiliath - to Minas Morgul - to Cirith Ungol ...
When you could instead take the ring to the elven harbour in the west and sail to Osgiliath or Minas Tirith and held the Hidden council there ?
It would have been faster and safer! MAP !
(No Orcs / Balrogs / mad Wizards / Ring wraiths / Flying beasts / giant Spiders / Cave trolls, etc.)
The hobbits didn’t know they were going to have a meeting in Rivendell, Gandalf just told them to go there. And I think the others just came there by chance.
Cover this! Did Aragorn make a critical error in aiming for Weathertop? That's the one place everyone knew about. He could've led the hobbits clear of it in the wilderness on the north, shooting the gap past the Nazgul to Rivendell unscathed.
I dont know if its just me but theres one picture of Feanor swearing the oatb with his sons where he looks like Benedict Cumberbatch. Dream casting right there!
I like to imagine that Maglor is still roaming the coasts singing and playing laments. No one and nothing dares hinder his music.
Great video! Keep it up!
Make a video on tulkas and mandos please....i have been requesting repeatedly.
Waiting for Fingon video:)
Oh, for a complete version of the Lay of the flight of the Noldor...
Very interesting.
Is it possible that Magolor from Kirby is named after Maglor from Tolkien? Or is this just coincidental?
isn't he after some gem-like maguffins?
@@613-shadow9 The Master Crown... which possesses him and gives him more power.
I recall the moment in the book when they finally won the Silmarils. I had a bitter taste in my mouth. I imagined how they felt...not good!
what is the song that starts at 10:15? i hope to know it is so beautiful
Yesss Maglor, my favourite Fëanorian
This has been on my mind for years. The Moriquendi elves aka the Dark Elves are named since they never beheld the light of the trees. Would that make any elf who has never seen the trees technically of the Moriquendi even if they were born after the trees were destroyed? Would Legolas then technically be of the Moriquendi as with Elrond? What do you think?
How long did Maglor live? Did he make it to the 3rd age?
Not sure if it's been debunked or not but I am quite convinced that The Arkenstone, excavated from Erebor, is in fact the Silmaril of Maedhros. It would be a great nod to the First Age legends and tie it with The Hobbit story. ^_^
My god will anyone tell me whats the name of the outro song pleeeeease
Please make a video on Tulkas the valar😑😑😑
You know somehow my thoughts always return to Feanor beeing the biggest problem of the Noldor ever.
If their oath was so serious then why didn't feonorians attack Luthien and take the silmaril of beren🤔🤔
Because even the oath said "Oh HELL NO!" when it learned that Luthien has the silmaril.
I can't decide if the answer to this is if the Sons of Feanor feared Luthien, or loved her - or maybe both.
@@samuelvine I am sure even Beten feared Luthien. I mean who wouldn't?
@@valentinkambushev4968 sons of feanor goes against Valars Gods to steal two silmarils but why the didn't go against Luthien 😒😒
@@UrduFootball99 the Valar are forbidden for hurting the children of Eru, unlike Luthien.
Imagine Maglor still wandering the shores of Middle-Earth way into the Third Age and beyond.
Oh and. Hypothetically if he "ever wandered the shores", he must have drowned with beleriand thus returning to Valinor.
Maybe, but I don't think Beleriand sank in a day like Numenor did. It probably sank from the large-scale destruction caused by the War of Wrath over 40 years. Maglor probably would've had time to move away - if he wanted to.
While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea:
"The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth."
Letter 131
"The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea."
Concerning... The Hoard
Maglor's death is also implied:
"The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants."
LotR
"Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven."
Shibboleth of Feanor
A fitting end, for a few magic rocks and the fools who killed to hoard them. At least they saw the error of their ways before the end.
Due to the immortality of the elves, it is possible that Maglor was alive until the end of the Third Age, but it is possible that he withered in later ages, as the phenomenon of fading applies to him like all elves.
Tolkien changed the story while writing LotR, Maglor killed himself.
Let's face it, in any other Elven family, Maglor is the one no other family member ever wants to talk about because of all his evil deeds. Only in comparison to his father and brothers does he come off looking at all favorable. Given the propensity of his line to get themselves killed, I doubt he lived long after the War of Wrath.
And Cirdan was even older than Feanor. And Cirdan and Samwise sailed together on the Last Ship.
The famed stoneyeeter of old
I think i miss something when I read the Silmarillion, is Maglor still alive to the third age or he dies?
It was not mentioned that he died, so unless something killed him or he wasted away from sadness, he could very well be alive.
Oh, Tar-Elenion Maranwe commented on that. Apparently Tolkien later wrote in his letter 131 that Maglor threw himself into the sea.
While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea:
"The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth."
Letter 131
"The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea."
Concerning... The Hoard
Maglor's death is also implied:
"The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants."
LotR
"Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven."
Shibboleth of Feanor
Did Elrond and Elros wonder what happened to maglor
They thought he was dead and never considered otherwise. There is a high likelihood that he was indeed dead.
God I love this channel..Tolkien would be proud.
Maglor may still be alive during the events of the 3rd age, wandering on Middle Earth.
No, Maglor is dead. Tolkien changed the story while writing LotR,
Maglor cast himself into the sea.
Maglor & Celeborn, the best singers in arda ❤
We call him Kano.
Maglor my favorite son of feanor in my opinion he probably the only son of feanor that I actually like the others are just evil basically
Either as in the comments Maglor faded or my head canon is that he let himself drown when Beleriand sank. Wouldn’t surprise me if he did.
While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea:
"The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth."
Letter 131
"The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea."
Concerning... The Hoard
Maglor's death is also implied:
"The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants."
LotR
"Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven."
Shibboleth of Feanor
Misdeeds more like war crimes.
Wait Maglor didn't die? what happened to him after words?
While Maglor in the pre-LotR writings survived (this was adopted into the published Silmarillion), in later writings Maglor perishes by casting himself into the sea:
"The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth."
Letter 131
"The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea."
Concerning... The Hoard
Maglor's death is also implied:
"The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants."
LotR
"Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven."
Shibboleth of Feanor
@@Tar-Elenion Ah, Thanks.
The problem with the elves is that they are too human. What the heck is the "glory" of elves being haughty, swearing evil oaths and killing each other? What was it that Tolkien thought of, when creating these ... pesky ... humanoids?
Only the Noldor. The Vanyar and Teleri Elves were much more chill. The Noldor is close to the Valar Aule. Aule is known to be an impatient, passionate and impulsive being and that's why his students/followers were mostly the same. Lol
Maglor would make an interesting Nazgul. If only he was human 😔
They should have never made the oath
For real! They should have seen that their father's head was gone.
Then it was impossible for Beren to marry Luthien (for Elu Thingol requested a Silmaril as "price"), and all events in the second and third age would have been entirely different; the world of Tolkien is so much like real history that all events invoke endless chains of consequences, and thats why it is such a splendid world!
But "what if" theory is always fun :-)
@@luukr9064 Exactly, it's crazy how one choice shapes the future and all the events that resulted from it.
They did the right thing. The Valar are ignorant of evil and malice and have frequently shirked responsibility for Morgoth and Sauron as well.
@@johns1625 I totally agree, the fate of the brothers is what I find sad, but in some way also fitting.
All of the sons of Feanor INCLUDING Meadhros are clowns doing clown work. Felegund is a stand up guy