Drained of Blood and Cut in Half: The Black Dahlia

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2023
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    Today’s case is about the infamous Black Dahlia murder in 1940s Los Angeles. 22 year old Elizabeth Short was found dead and dismembered, in a case that has left detectives stumped for over 75 years. Since the murder, there have been multiple suspects - but to this day, nobody has been convicted.
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  • @mackensiemartin2363
    @mackensiemartin2363 Před 9 měsíci +3512

    Completely heartless how the journalists knowing what they knew, had the nerve to call her mother and pretend her daughter had won a beauty pagent just to get info on a deceased young woman. Poor mum. 😢💔

    • @Mrose43217
      @Mrose43217 Před 9 měsíci +67

      I hope they looked into him too !!

    • @conniccom
      @conniccom Před 9 měsíci +218

      Seriously, the journalist is as sick as the killer, IMO. Maybe not violent, but just as sick. Who tf does that??!!! That’s emotional and psychological torture, all for the sake of their own self-promotion. Only a psychopath could do something so cruel.

    • @annamalesky4738
      @annamalesky4738 Před 9 měsíci +8

      Right!!!

    • @refinnej5302
      @refinnej5302 Před 9 měsíci +36

      Heck, many so-called journalists are no better these days.

    • @user-sf9gs2pg1b
      @user-sf9gs2pg1b Před 9 měsíci +31

      @@conniccom Exactly. One moment you think your daughter won a pageant, the next you realize it's journalists who wanted to get information of your daughter who died tragically. That is such a change in emotion.

  • @Andreamom001
    @Andreamom001 Před 9 měsíci +5002

    It’s hard to believe a murder with such unusual details is not the work of a serial killer. What kind of person would kill someone in such a specific and strange way and never kill anyone else ever again?

    • @kanekawaiii
      @kanekawaiii Před 9 měsíci +225

      that just seems so hard to believe when you think about it

    • @katyredmond
      @katyredmond Před 9 měsíci +177

      So true. Or that they have never done it before...

    • @conniccom
      @conniccom Před 9 měsíci +281

      Agreed. Maybe this is just the only case in which the killer used this particular MO … maybe it was like their “greatest work” or something gross like that, but I also find it difficult to believe that this murder was the killer’s only murder … also, the precision in this case, makes me feel like the killer was experimenting, so maybe he experimented with different ways to kill, and other cases weren’t as violent, or just weren’t found and/ or didn’t receive the press bc they weren’t as creepy or staged. 🤷🏼‍♀️ but it does seem odd for a one time killer.

    • @agostinodublino1387
      @agostinodublino1387 Před 9 měsíci +167

      the main suspect at the time (IDK why no one talks about him nowadays) was suspected to have killed a little girl, cutting her and shoving the pieces in a gully. He worked in a morgue, so he knew how tu cut a body, and drain blood, and cleaning all up after. he was also a wannabe pimp, so he was constantly around in bars and clubs looking for young women that "wanted to be famous". Her tattoo was indeed cut and inserted in her v*gina, as well as her pubic hairs were cut and inserted in the anus. This and many more details no one want to repeat are in the very well written book by Piu Eatwell, she made a very detailed and accurate work of research, pity so little youtubers are willing to read it, but you can... and free your mind from all the garbage many have interest to tell about their fathers, artworks, doctors and so on.

    • @annamalesky4738
      @annamalesky4738 Před 9 měsíci +9

      Very interesting changes my thoughts on the case.

  • @emmalu22
    @emmalu22 Před 9 měsíci +1239

    That’s interesting that the mom had a “switcharoo” happen to her twice… first the dad pretends he’s dead but it turns out he’s alive. Then she hears her daughter is alive but it turns out she’s dead. That’s a really strange thing to have happened twice in someone’s lifetime. Both circumstances I’m sure were awful.

    • @AmyAberrant
      @AmyAberrant Před 9 měsíci +137

      That poor woman’s mental health must have been all over the place

    • @trudyyy9395
      @trudyyy9395 Před 9 měsíci +52

      yeah i was thinking about this, it's quite heartbreaking tbh

    • @HollyGaming994
      @HollyGaming994 Před 5 měsíci +9

      I can't even imagine how awful it would be to think your daughter's alive and well just to find out they were killed...

  • @OutbackRose7
    @OutbackRose7 Před 9 měsíci +2202

    Another part of this case that makes me sick is when you just google Elizabeth Short or the Black Dahlia, so many people in Halloween costumes of her come up. As if a real woman who tragically lost her life is a character to costume who probably still has close relatives alive.

    • @lurji
      @lurji Před 9 měsíci +24

      80 years is long enough i'd say

    • @TrueCrime-Junkie
      @TrueCrime-Junkie Před 9 měsíci +166

      Sickening even so called art work of her post mortem photo and I even came across someone with a tattoo of her post mortem photo like wth is wrong with some people

    • @leah9175
      @leah9175 Před 9 měsíci +280

      @@lurjiit’s still gross to dress up as someone who was murdered, regardless of whether her relatives are alive or dead

    • @sarah-lh5bo
      @sarah-lh5bo Před 9 měsíci +110

      I second this, when googling the case, I saw pin badges of a cartoon of her cut in half come up on Etsy??? so disgusting

    • @liajordann
      @liajordann Před 9 měsíci +38

      @@sarah-lh5boi just saw that
      it’s so sickening how people can buy that

  • @annabanana1680
    @annabanana1680 Před 9 měsíci +1374

    You did a great job humanizing Elizabeth. She was and will always be so much more than the Black Dahlia.

    • @letsiku
      @letsiku Před 4 měsíci

      @@RoseyVampdidnt even think of this :( thats awful

    • @grwgracie
      @grwgracie Před 4 měsíci +4

      Yes, absolutely! I love how Eleanor humanizes and appreciates the people who were victims of the case before she goes into the gruesome details of the murder. Sometimes it’s hard to separate the person from the murder, but Eleanor makes it so easy. A great example of this from Eleanor I think is the murder or Dorothy Stratton (the murder of a playboy bunny) she just tells us how lovely and wonderful she was during her life. Props to Eleanor

  • @Coffeedrinker291
    @Coffeedrinker291 Před 9 měsíci +409

    Oh wow, that journalist that called her mother should be charged with something. There should be some laws to protect people from vultures like that.

    • @niamh3662
      @niamh3662 Před 9 měsíci +23

      Theres laws now obviously just didnt come soon enough

    • @katecook7459
      @katecook7459 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Intentional infliction of emotional distress

  • @tamarindsoleyn9856
    @tamarindsoleyn9856 Před 9 měsíci +502

    It was George Hodel 100 percent! Also, another interesting bit to consider: Hodel was a massive fan of visual artist, Man Ray, who took a photo of a human torso with the arms raised in the same manner as Elizabeth Short’s body was found. The photo is called “Minotaur.”

    • @p1ckle917
      @p1ckle917 Před 8 měsíci +45

      jesus, i just looked up that image and you can really see the resemblance to Dahlia

    • @Arsonaffinity
      @Arsonaffinity Před 4 měsíci +26

      He had other works of women that were dismembered also. It had to have been him. The resemblance is uncanny.

    • @janrees4887
      @janrees4887 Před 4 měsíci +10

      His daughter said it was him.

    • @maddieb.4282
      @maddieb.4282 Před 2 měsíci

      Oh, so you were there?

    • @maddieb.4282
      @maddieb.4282 Před 2 měsíci

      We can’t possibly know 100%

  • @MistyFox628
    @MistyFox628 Před 9 měsíci +721

    When you were describing Red, I thought to myself "well does he have a history of being violent? Nobody commits such a gorey crime out of nowhere" then you went into the doctors story and it ticked every box including the horrible history. I believe that theory the most. Especially when you mentioned the bit about his secretary dying and possibly having known something. Makes perfect sense to me. Either way, RIP Elizabeth. You didn't deserve that.

  • @theresataylor6675
    @theresataylor6675 Před 9 měsíci +2156

    I believe it was the doctor. Since the first time I heard his name, he's been my front runner. Truly evil man. Thanks for all the hard work you put into these cases.

    • @sarabear2455
      @sarabear2455 Před 9 měsíci +120

      He son also believed his dad did this.

    • @conniccom
      @conniccom Před 9 měsíci +185

      @@sarabear2455his son believing it is one of the main reasons I believe it was him (combined with the medical knowledge, obviously).

    • @rx500android
      @rx500android Před 9 měsíci +7

      Exactly!

    • @annamalesky4738
      @annamalesky4738 Před 9 měsíci +8

      I agree esp considering the way she was found.

    • @Amberlynn2228
      @Amberlynn2228 Před 9 měsíci +26

      Ghost adventures went to his mansion and investigated it. I definitely think it was the Dr. just never had enough proof that it was him.

  • @Jocelyn-iy3kd
    @Jocelyn-iy3kd Před 9 měsíci +3590

    eleanor tells these crime cases so well, she makes me believe as if she was a detective working on the case.

    • @chloelb.
      @chloelb. Před 9 měsíci +76

      This! Shes amazing at explaining it and also having her personality show at the same time. Been watching her for around 5 years she never disappoints

    • @ltimiii2572
      @ltimiii2572 Před 9 měsíci +23

      i watched all her vids multiple times shes amazing

    • @hjayy.
      @hjayy. Před 9 měsíci +15

      No. She doesn't. 😂

    • @jillianpw9789
      @jillianpw9789 Před 9 měsíci +34

      @@hjayy.
      Well, two and a half million people think so, soooo there’s that 🤷‍♀️

    • @davidrivett3088
      @davidrivett3088 Před 9 měsíci +4

      IRL Batgirl + Really pretty = Elenor Neale

  • @atinyofficial
    @atinyofficial Před 9 měsíci +355

    There were over 50 false confessions which makes me wonder if some of these people confessing were paid to do so by the actual murderer. It was a hard time financially, and if the murderer was well-off financially, he could have easily paid to lead the police on for extended periods of time.

    • @gwgh
      @gwgh Před 8 měsíci +33

      Like if they were a rich doctor…👀

    • @MelissaLawrence2002
      @MelissaLawrence2002 Před 8 měsíci +18

      I don't believe that, BUT I do love your theory. I've never thought of it, and it is definitely interesting. My reason for not actually believing it is because I believe there would be at least one person that would have come forward. To be fair, I didn't live during the Great Depression/WWII Era, so I don't know how I would have reacted if I was offered a pretty penny to falsely confess to something I clearly hadn't. Maybe I'd be desperate to put a meal on the table for my family, desperate enough to confess. Who truly knows? Interesting theory. 10/10 theory.

    • @atinyofficial
      @atinyofficial Před 8 měsíci +8

      @@MelissaLawrence2002 i thought that too, but also i would be scared of coming forward because it's likely they were also threatened by the culprit

    • @MelissaLawrence2002
      @MelissaLawrence2002 Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@atinyofficial that is true...hmm. Interesting. I wonder what threat would work? Like maybe some serious blackmail?

    • @PaladinLazzy
      @PaladinLazzy Před 9 dny

      The killer murdered a person, he can do it again. Especially if he did have money. Although that means there probably also was blackmail/coercion involved in some way another even if the threat was on the callers life itself ​@@MelissaLawrence2002

  • @bellapryn22
    @bellapryn22 Před 9 měsíci +634

    The way this person toyed with police reminds me of the Zodiac killer, to this day, still not found..
    Gives me chills. Thank you Eleanor

    • @wormofalltime
      @wormofalltime Před 9 měsíci +21

      but they did find the zodiac killer didn't they? only a couple of years ago

    • @bellapryn22
      @bellapryn22 Před 9 měsíci +53

      @tetratheworm nope, that was a false report. To this day, cipher decoders are still trying to crack the case of the zodiac killer from his clues

    • @snehasutradhar4598
      @snehasutradhar4598 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@wormofalltimethat's the NY Zodiac Killer

    • @IceIceBaby3310
      @IceIceBaby3310 Před 6 měsíci +11

      That similarity to the Zodiac Killer could very well be the reason that George Hodel's son thought he was also the Zodiac Killer. I believe it was George Hodel, but his son definitely was begining to loose touch with reality when he came up with those other ideas. I think the drive to prove his father did it played a part in him loosing touch with reality.

    • @bellapryn22
      @bellapryn22 Před 6 měsíci

      Obsession can do that unfortunately 😕. Reminds me of black phone where a character is figuring out who the killer is but none of their info is believed because they're an addict 😑 it sucks

  • @jenniferhutson4543
    @jenniferhutson4543 Před 9 měsíci +362

    HOW tf could anyone do that to someone?! Lifted her mom all up and made her extremely happy, then in the next second, crushed her entire world! Omgah, I hate this world 😞 that poor woman clearly went through absolute hell, with what was done to her. She was so beautiful, she didn't deserve that kind of horrific ending to her movie... 😭

    • @DubsTV93
      @DubsTV93 Před 9 měsíci +13

      Right, that person is just as deranged as the murderer. Sadistic.

    • @joelineleach6530
      @joelineleach6530 Před 9 měsíci +9

      There was a part of me wondering if the 'press' was actually the killer taunting her poor mom. Incredibly heartless thing to do.

    • @Anything13404
      @Anything13404 Před 9 měsíci +5

      A psychopath

    • @jenniferhutson4543
      @jenniferhutson4543 Před 9 měsíci

      @@joelineleach6530 makes you wonder!

    • @susanaalberto1932
      @susanaalberto1932 Před 9 měsíci

      . I'm off. Oao

  • @TrueCrime-Junkie
    @TrueCrime-Junkie Před 9 měsíci +192

    I find it truly sickening that there is sickos out there who have turned her post mortem photos into so called "Art work" and also seen a tattoo like wth is wrong with some people? This was a beautiful young woman who was brutally murdered and slaughtered. And the press to phone her mother absolutely shocking.

    • @Alex-en2eb
      @Alex-en2eb Před 9 měsíci +3

      So true, although American Horror Story season 1 used her as a character and that’s a very popular show so I’m wondering if a lot of the costumes, art work, and tattoos are based on that and if people knew that it was a true story and not just a fictional character

    • @Pen.namedSteph
      @Pen.namedSteph Před 9 měsíci +6

      Yeah, I seen a tattoo parlor in my area did a post Mortem tattoo of her on someone’s hand to go with this person’s horror/serial killer sleeve. It’s disgusting, like she was a real person. It doesn’t matter how long it has been since the case, getting a tattoo like that will always be disgusting.
      I’ve always found this case truly horrific and upsetting, so the fact that people can take it so lightly is heartbreaking.

  • @darrylryan5568
    @darrylryan5568 Před 9 měsíci +272

    Tomar's story is so tragic, it could be a whole separate case on it's own 😢

    • @AmyAberrant
      @AmyAberrant Před 9 měsíci +28

      I need a documentary on all the alleged victims of this man. Not just Elizabeth, but Tamar, the secretary and whoever else. Just how many people did this man hurt?

    • @Hannah-ob8yp
      @Hannah-ob8yp Před 9 měsíci +11

      You should listen to Root of Evil its a podcast hosted by Tamars Granddaughters

    • @maddieb.4282
      @maddieb.4282 Před 2 měsíci

      @@AmyAberrantthey made a show with Chris pine about her/the family, dramatized of course

  • @eternalsunshineofthespotlessme
    @eternalsunshineofthespotlessme Před 9 měsíci +111

    I find cases like this and Jack the Ripper so interesting, but also incredibly frustrating that we will never know who the perpetrator was or get justice for the victims.

    • @CaseyAvalon
      @CaseyAvalon Před 9 měsíci +13

      Same here. I also find the Cleveland Torso Murders, Villisca Axe Murders, and Axeman of New Orleans interesting - and scary. 😮

  • @mrsdiaz614
    @mrsdiaz614 Před 9 měsíci +1026

    When I was in my late teens I heard about this case and like an idiot decided to look up pictures of the crime scene. I could never get the image of her body out of my head. Even to this day when I hear “black dahlia” that’s what I see. Truly horrific what they did to her.

    • @Littleone124
      @Littleone124 Před 9 měsíci +65

      I had made the same mistake before too. The pictures are horrifying!!

    • @angelagarutti6118
      @angelagarutti6118 Před 9 měsíci +85

      Same it's a picture u can't unsee this poor young woman went thru something NOONE should ever go thru ..the killer was a VERY SICK DESTURBED Human

    • @nottyrese
      @nottyrese Před 9 měsíci +106

      shit like this is why I never go to do deeper research outside of documentaries, because I don't wanna stumble upon alla that

    • @elfu4739
      @elfu4739 Před 9 měsíci +37

      Honestly same, I'm always too nervous to look for more details just in case I stumble upon something horrific

    • @MarissaPhillips-fp5tb
      @MarissaPhillips-fp5tb Před 9 měsíci +24

      I did that for the jeff dahmer monster and let’s just say……NIGHTMARES for a long time

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot Před 9 měsíci +740

    Yes people have a pathological obsession with this case. To the point people will confess to this crime even though the crime happened decades before they were born.

    • @BaobhanloreArt
      @BaobhanloreArt Před 9 měsíci +59

      Odd as it is, it reminds me of the Death Note series. How people falsely confessed to being a supernatural mass murderer just because of fascination or because they understand the thought process Kira had.
      May Elizabeth rest in peace.

    • @simplyjaz5278
      @simplyjaz5278 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@BaobhanloreArtright!!

    • @kaplingnag7267
      @kaplingnag7267 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@BaobhanloreArtoh yeah that's so interesting

  • @emmacurtis2270
    @emmacurtis2270 Před 9 měsíci +34

    I feel like that one transcript that said "if I did kill the Black Dahlia, they can't ask my secretary because she's dead" is pretty telling. Like that's pretty close to a confession in my mind, although I guess we're missing the full context of that conversation

  • @sawahiii
    @sawahiii Před 9 měsíci +423

    This is one of the first true crime cases I ever looked into at such a young age, yet I never knew much about Elizabeth. I think you did a great job at humanizing her and bringing her story to life. Now that I’m older I think it’s soooo important to tell the victim’s life story. You did a great job!

  • @AnneMolly56
    @AnneMolly56 Před 9 měsíci +36

    The thing that connects The Cleveland Torso Killer and the Black Dahlia Murder is that the killer sent a letter to the Cleveland police saying that "He was moving to Sunny California." Or something like that.

    • @darlyswynn5594
      @darlyswynn5594 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Interesting, I hadn’t heard about that detail

    • @maddieb.4282
      @maddieb.4282 Před 2 měsíci

      Oh yeah, that’s proof alright 😂😂

  • @catalina5394
    @catalina5394 Před 9 měsíci +30

    and this is why women don't report. she had three eyewitnesses and she still lost her case of rape against her father.
    i hate it. i hate it. i hate it.

    • @maddieb.4282
      @maddieb.4282 Před 2 měsíci

      Thank god some things have changed in the past 70 years. Now people like me exist- I’m a title IX legal advocate at a college pushing assaulters to be held truly accountable

    • @AmberTurdsShittyBedsheet
      @AmberTurdsShittyBedsheet Před 18 dny

      And the house was a frequent party spot for socialites and hollywood elite; all well-known names and people. Between the mobs running streets, hollywood elite knowing and befriending police, and power dynamics in place, I'm sure a lot of things were swept under rugs; an author (Piu) who overlooked investigative papers on the case stated *pages* of credible info were removed. The locker in which this specific case sits in was also witnessed to be guarded by a police officer assigned to do that exact job. Now who does that, but a city who has a *lot* of dirt on everyone.

  • @kn8354
    @kn8354 Před 9 měsíci +117

    Definitely george. The fact that many years later they found a notebook under his floorboards confessing ( not in a place where someone would easily find a confession for attention). I think he wanted someone to find it after his death so that everyone would know what he had done after death, but not have to be held responsible. With the man the accidentally fell I feel like they said that based on the time period, but I feel like it might have been on purpose because of grief because of her terrible death and guilt because he wasn’t able to prevent her even though they had spent so much crime together. He already struggled mental health wise so it’s probably not stretch. At that time I feel they never would have published it as a purposeful in the news during that era. I could imagine her being one of george’s patients, him trying to assault her during a visit , and then killing her when she fought back. Office could have been a crime scene and secretary could have found out some how.

  • @teatime2487
    @teatime2487 Před 9 měsíci +69

    My heart breaks for her, she deserves to have peace in her afterlife. It’s disgusting that people dress up as her for Halloween like she isn’t a real person, she deserves so much more respect then what people give her. I hope she gets her peace one day so she may finally rest in peace.

  • @hannahtreloar5882
    @hannahtreloar5882 Před 9 měsíci +25

    What creeps me out is that only the victim Elizabeth knew who her murderer was only she'll truly know and thats so ominous to me

    • @kaitdani
      @kaitdani Před 8 měsíci +5

      right?!! that’s what always gets me when it comes to unsolved murders. it just adds another level of creepiness. i wish she could give us a sign, a clue or something so her case could be solved. i just don’t think this was the murderer’s first time killing and i don’t think it was their last time either

    • @maddieb.4282
      @maddieb.4282 Před 2 měsíci

      If he wasn’t a stranger to her that is!

  • @kamjay4121
    @kamjay4121 Před 9 měsíci +127

    The fact that scares me to most is the person that did this got to live their life while she couldn’t cause they took it away from her or the fact that this person could be alive

    • @indianastones6032
      @indianastones6032 Před 9 měsíci +17

      I doubt very much the killer is still alive!! Someone to do such a thing was in their 20s would be over 100 years old now.

    • @alep2341
      @alep2341 Před 9 měsíci +13

      @@indianastones6032they still lived their life tho

    • @indianastones6032
      @indianastones6032 Před 9 měsíci

      @@alep2341 how do ya know that? For all we know, they could have died later that day too.....very unlikely but poss.

    • @LOhaha94
      @LOhaha94 Před 8 měsíci +8

      @@indianastones6032 Stop being pedantic, you know what they meant. Obviously they’re not alive now but they probably got to live longer than Elizabeth Short did.

    • @introusas
      @introusas Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@LOhaha94Yep, she was just barely getting started in her adult life. She could have had a long and happy one. I was very spooked when I realized that she died at the EXACT age I am now, down to the month. Really puts the tragedy of it into perspective.

  • @annagardiner8351
    @annagardiner8351 Před 8 měsíci +65

    I was on board with Doctor Hodell and then you mentioned his move to the Philippines where another woman turned up dead the EXACT SAME WAY and I have to believe that it was him. I mean, he must’ve had the strong desire to murder the same way again, but knew that he would be caught if he did it the same way in the same place. Wow. Unbelievable that he got away with it.

    • @rhondacranford7882
      @rhondacranford7882 Před 3 měsíci +2

      He admired Man Ray, I feel he was doing that pose for a tribute to him!!!!
      I believe he killed her...but not alone!
      It seems personal to torture her in the way she was..and her mouth!!it's like they wanted to shut her up!
      And posing her.....let it be known...like a message to someone...you can be next.!!!!
      Then his secretary?!....ya it was him!

    • @0rad1ant
      @0rad1ant Před 3 měsíci

      do you know who the woman was? i wanna research that case aswell to see if its similar to this in any way

    • @maddieb.4282
      @maddieb.4282 Před 2 měsíci

      @@0rad1antthere are more rumors in this case than facts

    • @sarahjohnsonj06
      @sarahjohnsonj06 Před 2 měsíci

      @alexandrarapp397yeah it happened in the Philippines if you google it, it comes up

  • @shimonaspancake
    @shimonaspancake Před 9 měsíci +252

    I know Eleanor has covered most of the story but if you're interested in learning more about the suspect George Hodel I highly recommend the podcast Root of Evil: The True Story of the Hodel Family and the Black Dahlia. It's narrated by his great-granddaughters and they go into great detail about their very messed up family and their ties to Elizabeth Short with recorded phone calls and interviews. All doubts about him as the suspect will be completely out of the window after listening to this.

    • @kekemola1475
      @kekemola1475 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Thanks, gonna go check it out❤

    • @mhairifotheringham2012
      @mhairifotheringham2012 Před 9 měsíci +12

      I literally just wrote the same comment and saw yours, so removed mine. This is probably one of the most interesting podcasts I've ever listened to just because there is so much going on that you just can't believe it. Really worth a listen too, if anyones interested in the theory involving him.

    • @sappholily
      @sappholily Před 9 měsíci +3

      thanks for the rec!

    • @sngray11
      @sngray11 Před 9 měsíci +7

      That podcast is fantastic and so is their follow up podcast series called “Facing Evil.”

    • @mhairifotheringham2012
      @mhairifotheringham2012 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @sngray11 I never knew about this one. Thanks for the recommendation.

  • @Chloe.A_
    @Chloe.A_ Před 9 měsíci +400

    Its so sad that no one was conficted, but i absolutly love that you do all these victims justice by telling there story!💕

    • @LuSiaisirritated
      @LuSiaisirritated Před 9 měsíci +32

      I think you might mean convicted. P.S not trying to be rude just letting you know. Also I agree its tragic!

    • @hamsackk
      @hamsackk Před 9 měsíci +31

      @@LuSiaisirritatedthis is so much nicer than going “convicted*”

    • @gigiv7983
      @gigiv7983 Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@hamsackk so true

    • @hjayy.
      @hjayy. Před 9 měsíci

      ​@LuSiaisirritated 100% meant convicted. Why does everyone need their hand held. If you're wrong you're wrong, what's wrong w that?

    • @nikonijn
      @nikonijn Před 9 měsíci +27

      @@hjayy.would it kill you to be nice to strangers on the internet? it’s not hand holding, it’s respect.

  • @rivervan
    @rivervan Před 9 měsíci +185

    So excited to watch Eleanor’s breakdown on this case, your storytelling abilities are incredible. Thank you for all of your hard work!

  • @silasfrisenette9226
    @silasfrisenette9226 Před 9 měsíci +17

    I mean the thing is; even if the "suppose I did kill the Black Dahlia" sentence was just a hypothesis, why would he in this hypothetical assume that the secretary would know something damning? He basically admits to the fact that 'if he killed the Black Dahlia then the secretary would be the one person who could incriminate him, and she's dead' ...... wow

    • @silasfrisenette9226
      @silasfrisenette9226 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Such a base assumption has a word in Danish ("hjemmel"), which basically means the base assumption that is not even in question, everyone agrees on it implicitly. Like if I asked "What time should we meet at the movie theater?" the 'hjemmel' would be that we were meeting at the movie theater at all (the way it is phrased, it sounds like everyone agrees that we ARE going, the question is not whether or not, but when). In this statement it is not a question whether or not the secretary might know something that could incriminate him; it's the hjemmel. The hypothetical is phrased in a way where it is assumed that she knew something, it is not questioned; it is phrased in a way that says 'even if I killed her, you would never know, because the one person who knows that I did is dead' ... that quote alone convinced me completely!

  • @princesschickawa
    @princesschickawa Před 9 měsíci +35

    Didn't think I was going to be so shocked by the photos. Have mercy, poor poor woman. This person was beyond evil.

  • @Emrose93
    @Emrose93 Před 9 měsíci +57

    This case everybody knows and always discusses. It’s been 7 decades and it’s still in the public eye. Just terrible what happened to Elizabeth.

  • @EryberrieTrueCrime
    @EryberrieTrueCrime Před 9 měsíci +103

    This was on my 2024 provisional list of cases to cover but I'm so glad you've covered it. I'm so saddened that Elizabeth Short's death hasn't been solved and what happened to her is just gruesome.

    • @erine6985
      @erine6985 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Horrible that they got away with it :(

  • @nerd26373
    @nerd26373 Před 9 měsíci +114

    The Black Dahlia is one of the most infamous cases that has intrigued and disturbed me the moment I started digging deep into this case. There's always something sketchy happening behind the scenes when such big and bomming industries are suddenly caught up in controversies.

    • @retr0tune80
      @retr0tune80 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Remember, it’s Wednesday Addams’ favorite unsolved murder. Lol

  • @chelseystanley7700
    @chelseystanley7700 Před 9 měsíci +41

    I truly lean more towards the doctor , especially hearing what was said on the bugs in the house , this is one case that has bothered me for so long , and it’s so sad knowing it will probably never be solved, but I hope for Elizabeth’s sake it is solved one day

  • @gecehavasi4764
    @gecehavasi4764 Před 9 měsíci +285

    I love these long casesss. I was bored asf, this made my dayyy

    • @justgrohlwithit
      @justgrohlwithit Před 9 měsíci +4

      same was super bored

    • @hruchadake6773
      @hruchadake6773 Před 9 měsíci +2

      It's 12.05 am here 😅

    • @alishadalley855
      @alishadalley855 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Literally given me a reason not to go to bed before 8pm🤣

    • @namantherockstar
      @namantherockstar Před 9 měsíci

      Eleanor inspires me.. My parents said if i get 60K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
      Begging..

    • @hamsackk
      @hamsackk Před 9 měsíci +9

      @@namantherockstaryou don’t need a professional camera, most youtubers use their phone for years before getting a decent camera. i know you’re a copy and paste scammer most likely but on the off chance you’re not, that’s my advice.

  • @madbutler6022
    @madbutler6022 Před 9 měsíci +23

    I don’t live far from where Elizabeth is buried. I’ve been to visit her grave. Very beautiful cemetery.
    Elizabeth’s murder is so tragic. Such a beautiful lady who didn’t deserve what happened to her. And I also loathe how she has been exploited over the years.
    RIP ❤

  • @Dumb_blonde622
    @Dumb_blonde622 Před 9 měsíci +78

    I think I love these because Eleanor dives STRAIGHT in to the case, gives a brief summary that makes the listener want to listen, and then BAM.
    Also her voice is soothing

  • @ineedabetterusername4803
    @ineedabetterusername4803 Před 9 měsíci +107

    I stopped being nearly as into true crime as I used to be. But one thing I appreciate is I feel like you're much more respectful to the victims in the case than some of the other people I've seen covering things (not trying to be rude, I just feel like people in general are extremely desensitized to things like this)

    • @lynne8559
      @lynne8559 Před 9 měsíci +20

      I agree, I only watch Eleanor, Kendall Rae and Bella Fiori. They’re the most respectful in my opinion

    • @roo4282
      @roo4282 Před 9 měsíci +15

      ⁠@@lynne8559i agree with your list but also stephanie soo, she gets super sad in some it's easy to see she sees them as people not just fairy tales

    • @DubsTV93
      @DubsTV93 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Stephanie harlowe is amazing.

    • @miap.2387
      @miap.2387 Před 9 měsíci +9

      @@roo4282Danielle Kirsty is also very respectful and emotional when talking about these cases!

    • @hexstacy
      @hexstacy Před 9 měsíci +2

      Eleanor, Danielle Kirsty and Molly Westbrook are my favourites ♥️

  • @KaysPallet
    @KaysPallet Před 9 měsíci +19

    I recently read a biography on Fauna Hodel (called One Day She'll Darken) and they just casually threw in there that they thought George could've been the Black Dahlia killer and went into no other details. I'm glad to finally get more details on this theory

  • @LucyWood-cv9wv
    @LucyWood-cv9wv Před 9 měsíci +25

    Having autism and a special interest in true crime doesn’t mix well for me, everyone else’s videos spook me but Elenor explains the case in a way that is comfortable for me but locks me in without making me paranoid, we love you Elenor!!

    • @stargirlscinnamoncherry
      @stargirlscinnamoncherry Před 9 měsíci +2

      Same here!! Im easily spooked but Eleanor makes my true crime hyperfixation and fascination possible and not-scary.

    • @skippingbutterfly9044
      @skippingbutterfly9044 Před 8 měsíci

      I’m not one who easily gets spooked (I’m autistic as well) but I do agree that Eleanor does a great job at explaining what she finds in a non spooky way like other true crime CZcamsrs

    • @introusas
      @introusas Před 6 měsíci

      That’s because she’s neurodivergent too!

    • @introusas
      @introusas Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@skippingbutterfly9044It helps that she doesn’t play creepy music in the background 😂 Even something that isn’t that scary becomes 10x scarier with creepy music.

  • @that_one_lameo6411
    @that_one_lameo6411 Před 9 měsíci +23

    Have I watched a dozen black dahlia videos before? Yes. Am I about to watch this entire video anyway? Absolutely. Love Eleanor 🥰

  • @eclipse8251
    @eclipse8251 Před 9 měsíci +33

    I always appreciate that she talks so much about the victims and their lives. Others just talk about their death and the killer in detail. They were people, share their story.

  • @kayleighfuria819
    @kayleighfuria819 Před 9 měsíci +31

    This case is so strange to me. I watch every video I find on this case even though there's really never any new information but hearing other people's theories on what happened always piques my interest. Rest in peace Elizabeth Short, I am so sorry your fame came after death.

  • @SoCalJellybean
    @SoCalJellybean Před 9 měsíci +9

    We JUST drove by the Leimert Park area here in LA where her body was found, and I was telling my 14-year-old niece about what happened, and now I get a notification of Eleanor’s new video… I’m totally creeped out!! 😳

  • @okphobic
    @okphobic Před 9 měsíci +42

    this is such a horrid case, and she was absolutely gorgeous 🙁 she could have a potential big future, but that was taken away by an unknown person forever. may she rest in peace 💗🕊️

  • @phlebgrl6064
    @phlebgrl6064 Před 9 měsíci +40

    Really enjoyed your take and retelling of the infamous Black Dalia murder. I completely agree with your theory on the who murderer was. Also back at that point in time, the LA police were notoriously dirty and it was common practice for them to do whatever they wanted. Innocent people were often given brutal prison sentences, with women often confined to psychiatric facilities and undergo unnecessary lobotomies. Thank you for another great story Eleanor!!

  • @nayshay130
    @nayshay130 Před 9 měsíci +75

    Love the time and effort that Eleanor puts into these videos, I can literally watch them all day

  • @denisetherrien9689
    @denisetherrien9689 Před 9 měsíci +14

    Thank you for digging so deep into this case! I had heard about Hodell and how his son thinks he’s the killer but I never knew about the recordings and the secretary. I think he did it. Such a beautiful girl, such a tragic loss. 💜

  • @Eleanore.Rigbyy
    @Eleanore.Rigbyy Před 9 měsíci +28

    I fully buy the serial killer theory that Steve came up with about George.
    One thing that keeps me from buying most other theory’s is how personal/brutal this murder is. I don’t think a murder for hire killer would mutilate her face.
    Another thing to think about is I can’t imagine this type of killer getting away with this murder then never killing again. Whoever did this got enjoyment from handling her body afterwards. You don’t do something like that once then never do it again. There are more victims.

    • @maddieb.4282
      @maddieb.4282 Před 2 měsíci

      Read about the Iceman, mafia hitman and serial killer

  • @SeawhirlYT
    @SeawhirlYT Před 9 měsíci +17

    I remember hearing about this case awhile ago in another video. Im so glad to see you back up and posting again! I would watch your videos for hours, listening true crime is definitely a favorite passing time of mine!

  • @bthomson
    @bthomson Před 9 měsíci +13

    The juxtaposition of EN's cheerful and upbeat manor and the facts of these cases is arresting! She is one of the really good true crime narrators. Her lovely accent always delights. How can we be so happy to listen to such tragedy? Maybe it's a mystery!

  • @k.ambrosio602
    @k.ambrosio602 Před 9 měsíci +12

    This past weekend I actually drove to the location where her body was found. Although it is now part of a driveway, it was eery to know that it was once the spot where she was found. Such a tragic and mysterious ending.

  • @athenachristinemusic
    @athenachristinemusic Před 9 měsíci +10

    The part where the press told the mother her daughter had won a contest… no words

  • @cosmicsquirrel7642
    @cosmicsquirrel7642 Před 9 měsíci +13

    When I was a little kid, 6 or 7, i read all the books I found. One of those books was "Hollywood Babylon" which has a chapter on poor Elizabeth. It's a haunting case and mythologized so much. Apart from the obvious brutality I find the behavior of the press almost as gross as the suspect Dr. How anyone with a beating heart could do that to her mother is beyond belief. She's become an icon of sorts because we live in a weird world.

  • @playgorlri
    @playgorlri Před 9 měsíci +6

    Love Elenor’s videos so much! I remember hearing about this as a teen. Looking up crime photos is just interesting to me because I want to be a detective and what they did to her is just so sad.

  • @erinhall8076
    @erinhall8076 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Eleanor is the only true crime youtuber I’ve watched who discusses cases and the victims with such care and respect. Everyone else makes a spectacle of it

  • @lils6537
    @lils6537 Před 9 měsíci +2

    thank you for always prioritising the facts in your cases - its so easy for people to get caught up on the "exciting" rumours and not want to believe the harsh mundanity of it all.

  • @aftonrae4038
    @aftonrae4038 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I let my curiosity take over and the crime scene photos from this case are probably some of the most disturbing , if not the most disturbing, images I’ve ever seen.

  • @samanthadodd8112
    @samanthadodd8112 Před 9 měsíci +6

    This was the best coverage of this murder I've ever heard. Thanks for all ur hard work.

  • @madison.simpson
    @madison.simpson Před 9 měsíci +2

    i’ve been obsessed with this case since i was young, im so glad you covered it

  • @gwenixe
    @gwenixe Před 9 měsíci +8

    it never matters if I’ve heard cases prior to you covering them, because the way you tell their stories is unmatched🖤

  • @leavesofpresence2632
    @leavesofpresence2632 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I felt like I knew this case so well but I learned so much! Eleanor, you are amazing!

  • @NeapolitanIceCream_Toki
    @NeapolitanIceCream_Toki Před 9 měsíci +4

    This case is so nostalgic for me in a way. It’s the first true crime case I’ve ever heard of and it’s what really got me into true crime.
    I’ve always felt so bad for Elizabeth and I hope that wherever her spirit is now that she’s doing so much better

  • @stephaniegreen5306
    @stephaniegreen5306 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Yesss thank you for covering this case I've been waiting for you specifically to do it and never watched anyone else's.
    Thank you 😊

  • @SuccubusGoblin
    @SuccubusGoblin Před 9 měsíci +2

    I'm so happy you covered this one! ever since I've come across it via American Horror Story, I wondered ... I'm also soooo glad you even covered the suspects and not only that but told us about their lives and all. so interesting! thank you and your team for putting so much work and effort in these videos 🖤

  • @_rat_5758
    @_rat_5758 Před 9 měsíci +6

    I’m at home sick and this has given me something to watch ❤ Ty - also this is imo one of the most interesting yet vile unsolved cases

  • @laurengift4594
    @laurengift4594 Před 9 měsíci +30

    I find it hard to believe that her murder wasn’t done by a serial killer. Whoever did it didn’t do it just to get rid of her, it was definitely sadistic, it couldn’t have been their first or last. Also, the Cleveland torso killer claimed to have moved to LA in 1938 via a letter sent to someone working the Cleveland case. I really wish they would be able to solve this case but I doubt they ever will. 😩

  • @AlyxandriaDiaz420
    @AlyxandriaDiaz420 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I just started watching this and I’m excited to hear Eleanor do this case. I have been intrigued by this case since middle school when I did a project on the Black Dahlia. Thank you for covering this case!

  • @lornarettig3215
    @lornarettig3215 Před 9 měsíci +8

    I just want to comment that I’ve watched you for years Eleanor and I love how successful your channel is. So well deserved for your hard work.

  • @princesschickawa
    @princesschickawa Před 9 měsíci +3

    LOVE these long videos of yours!!!! True deep dive....keep them coming!

  • @CountryChloDoh
    @CountryChloDoh Před 9 měsíci +6

    There’s not much that freaks me out but the crime scene photos of her body (face more so) is etched in my brain and makes me shiver.

  • @swimfreak2625
    @swimfreak2625 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Nothing better than coming out of class and seeing a new eleanor video. Been rewatching the old ones all day.

  • @annehou3509
    @annehou3509 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Y’all the way I’ve been waiting for this my whole life 😭😭

  • @ecthelion222
    @ecthelion222 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Eleanor the only reason I’m watching this video is for your personal take on it and the extensive amount of detailed work you put into your cases. I feel like I know everything there is to know about poor Elizabeth, and I’m ready for you to prove me wrong! Mega love to you for all the work you put in to your case studies; I ALWAYS learn something new from you. 💜

  • @gracieibarra3820
    @gracieibarra3820 Před 9 měsíci +11

    Aghhhh this is one of my favorite cases!!! Thank you for covering it♡
    I hope everyone is having a good month so far!♡

  • @Soufsideee
    @Soufsideee Před 9 měsíci +1

    I love when she posts long videos !! but i love this case so much like i’ve heard so much about it and it gets better everytime

  • @erin22222
    @erin22222 Před 9 měsíci +4

    me realizing eleanor tells us stories about cases and gives us deals on cases too 😳 i've never made the connection before

  • @Sarahlovqr
    @Sarahlovqr Před 9 měsíci +3

    i was obsessed w this case when i was younger, its what got me into crime, i was just about to watch your other videos before i saw this and clicked on it so fast

  • @candymay2662
    @candymay2662 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I am loving your doing longer episodes I'm not sure why i find you so calming and informative as well. Been watching you for a very long time and it's amazing watching you grow. I'd love you to do a pod cast version xxxx

    • @CrystalPerne
      @CrystalPerne Před 9 měsíci +1

      Same! I'm normally not one for lengthy YT videos but Eleanor is more like a TV show for me now! I love whacking a bit of Eleanor on and getting chores done! I don't know why but in my head I say Eleanor the same way she says videooooo 🤭🧡

  • @jessalyn2468
    @jessalyn2468 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is one of my favorite cases, I’ve just been waiting for you to go over it❤

  • @Worthless_Toaster
    @Worthless_Toaster Před 9 měsíci +25

    Some said the same person who killed 2 more women in 1967 and 1993 in the Philippines, is the one who killed the "Black Dahlia"... And I really do believe that it was George Hodel. I wish you can also cover these cases of the 2 women (the “Chop Chop Ladies) during the years when Hodel was in the Philippines. Thanks for another insightful video, Eleanor! Keep it up! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @josiegray5357
    @josiegray5357 Před 9 měsíci +3

    On a road-trip rn and this exactly what I needed!!!!

  • @KISSArmySoldier
    @KISSArmySoldier Před 9 měsíci +6

    I love true crime videos. I remember when I first heard this case. It's very creepy. Great work as always Eleanor ❤

  • @emilylowe2416
    @emilylowe2416 Před 9 měsíci +2

    9:56 I thought she said “beautifully murdered” and I had to rewind it to hear “brutally murdered” 😂😂😂

  • @hayleygee4582
    @hayleygee4582 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Hugely impressed with the rate these videos are coming out. Can rely on them weekly now 🤞

  • @sherelle1987
    @sherelle1987 Před 9 měsíci +7

    This is one of the top true crime stories that fascinates me! So glad you did it. I love that they feature it in the first season of AHS

    • @LoyalAsst
      @LoyalAsst Před 5 měsíci

      I hope it all comes out in the open, and what possessed the killer(s) to do this.

  • @frenchy1987
    @frenchy1987 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Next July she would of been 100 years old! I'm so sorry beautiful Elizabeth, i wish evil didnt encounter you that cruel day! 😢

  • @cerysdavies1549
    @cerysdavies1549 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I’ve watched so many different videos covering the black dahlia but nothing beats Eleanors! I’ve been watching you for 5 years now and you always smash it!

  • @jessi2788
    @jessi2788 Před 9 měsíci +4

    she explains stuff better than my teacher literally i had a projects about a case and i had to watch like 3 documentaries and she made me understand it better than all 3

  • @abnormallycarolyn
    @abnormallycarolyn Před 9 měsíci +4

    So excited to hear you tell this story!! You’re amazing xx

  • @user-qz3pj6tz3h
    @user-qz3pj6tz3h Před 9 měsíci +2

    This is my all time favorite case. Your my all time favorite documentary teller. This videos already amazing. Love you eleanor

  • @gisellegomez6082
    @gisellegomez6082 Před 9 měsíci +1

    thank you for making this, I’ve been interested in this case and wanted to know more and you explained it very well!

  • @Firestorm-613
    @Firestorm-613 Před 9 měsíci +10

    Honestly, I feel like this case have some sort of foul play. It definitely sad that we might never know who did it.

  • @mentallydisturbedllama473
    @mentallydisturbedllama473 Před 9 měsíci +6

    The first time I actually got excited over a sponsor, when Eleanor was announcing it not me being like "Please let it be casetify again." 😭

  • @cherrytherealone
    @cherrytherealone Před 9 měsíci +2

    ellie, you’ve inspired me to get a casetify case a few weeks ago and i thank you for that

  • @askaweis
    @askaweis Před 9 měsíci +2

    LOVE that you're doing some unsolved crimes as well! xx

  • @ChrissyFraser
    @ChrissyFraser Před 9 měsíci +4

    I’ve watched this case so many times but I’ve never had anybody go into deep detail and I’m currently at the part where her dad abandon the family and that’s honestly so depressing because not only is it horrible for the mother who already is struggling but also the kids

  • @tarabourgeois5807
    @tarabourgeois5807 Před 9 měsíci +18

    It was Hodel. Yeah you offered up so much more information in your synopsis than any other you tuber who covered this case.