The BEST Shield Healer for PROG in FFXIV

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  • čas přidán 17. 03. 2023
  • Kindred's Kareth Crestfall joins Difficult Content to talk about why he takes Sage into prog over Scholar and why so many people don't understand the rationale for doing so.
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Komentáře • 28

  • @TheProud1
    @TheProud1 Před rokem +6

    Great clip! As a healer main, it’s nice hearing these discussions and considerations for where one job excels mechanically over others. Helps enforce some critical thinking outside of those dreaded damage conversations. Amazing work as always Caer!

    • @CaerEsthar
      @CaerEsthar  Před rokem +3

      Thank you! Kareth is a fantastic resource on these matters.

  • @FliceTrance
    @FliceTrance Před rokem +5

    Pretty much everything said here is why I play SGE over SCH because in terms of what the mits/heals actually are, the classes are almost the exact same, but I can't emphasize enough how much I like being able to use Kera for things like Wroth Flames in DSR and then spamming GCD shields as the group is moving to get into position for Hot Wing/Tail. And then for as much as you're going to use Ruin II, I feel like you can just use Toxicon and it won't matter.

  • @Regis_Philbin
    @Regis_Philbin Před rokem +1

    love it, would love to hear more discussions like this

    • @CaerEsthar
      @CaerEsthar  Před rokem

      Thank you! You can check out the whole series (including the full interview that this clip is from) here: czcams.com/video/o548cIlzTjE/video.html
      Make sure you subscribe so you don't miss the next one ;)

  • @lazyyfox7914
    @lazyyfox7914 Před 13 dny +1

    I really want the faerie swap ability now

  • @lmk4199
    @lmk4199 Před rokem +1

    love the insight in this video, thanks !

  • @StriderHoang
    @StriderHoang Před rokem +2

    The moment I told my static lead, a NIN who had never touched SGE before but was going to fill for our absent healer, that SGE’s main gcd heals were instant, he was sold.
    Being that mobile with gcds, especially for quick center positioned heals, was a big deal in progging weird static spot strats like NA2.

  • @bellamango6708
    @bellamango6708 Před rokem +1

    i love being a SGE main, only time playing it drove me nuts was p7s LOL

  • @FuzzyJCats
    @FuzzyJCats Před 11 měsíci

    Hello Caer, even though I love SCH way, way more than SGE, and have NO experience with hard content, I'm glad you point out that SGE is more than viable in ultimate content, esp as "everyone" says the meta for hardest content is AST/SCH. I really hate the concept of meta, because people should be able to play what they want and enjoy! It's a video game, you should have FUN! This is not IRL workplace, where the best tools are necessary, otherwise pain and burnout.
    That's what I appreciate about FF14, that all jobs are viable for all content, except BLU. Liked and subscribed!

    • @xXluluchanelXx
      @xXluluchanelXx Před 2 měsíci +1

      and this is what I appreciate about other SCH players -- I think we're some of the more level headed when it comes to accepting the criticism about our job, lol. but maybe that's just the deal we made with the eldritch horrors that our job requires understanding in order to carry out

    • @FuzzyJCats
      @FuzzyJCats Před 2 měsíci

      @@xXluluchanelXx After leveling up all healers, I found AST the most fun. Due to my limits as a gamer, I decided to WHM lol, as the other healers are more complex! If I don't practice daily, I forget the other healers' toolkits and strats, and have to relearn almost from scratch (esp AST).
      I have utmost respect for players who main the other healing jobs!

  • @blakec8549
    @blakec8549 Před 11 měsíci

    Long time scholar lover. And I will say scholar has an excess of mitigation. To the point where some of it is useless. Placing fairies on controller isnt terrible. Just takes some practice. Swapping places would be fun. Maybe a gab closer to the fairy. Also a fairy follow option would be great. Make your fairy follow a certain character and have a gap closer to the fairy. Wont be as good as sages mobility but it gives you some options

  • @andiaam9703
    @andiaam9703 Před rokem

    when he talked about Alchemist from Ragnarok I was like 'ah yes I miss that time when I made my homunculus orcs' bait...'

  • @alexandrezolla4959
    @alexandrezolla4959 Před rokem +2

    BASED 😎

  • @nickjordan8996
    @nickjordan8996 Před rokem

    Sage = more dps mechanics and less 1-button spamming (though it still has way too much, still...)

  • @salmanhannan9052
    @salmanhannan9052 Před rokem +2

    I mean you rarely need to run and sheild. Swiftcast is always there if you absolutely need it. Seraph also provides two free instant sheilds.

    • @ZephWraen
      @ZephWraen Před rokem +3

      It's not that you need to, it's what is easiest for prog. Don't forget, this is the perspective of a World First raider who's looking for the quickest solution to a problem.
      The argument here is that Sage is easier (and therefore better for prog) because it's more forgiving. Being able to shield while moving without having to rely on a 2 minute CD gives you a lot more breathing room while progging. Was your positioning slightly off but you need to get that cast off? Sage can still do it without spending a bigger resource.
      Yes, you can plan out your movement and casts so everything lines up perfectly and you don't need that movement shield, but how many more pulls are you going to spend practicing and perfecting that movement vs a Sage who doesn't even need to think about it in the first place?
      It all boils down to what's easiest and what is that player most comfortable on, and that'll differ by player. Scholar has a ton of positives that help with prog too. But the mobility aspect is what really drives a lot of Sage mains (myself included) to stick with it over Scholar.

    • @blakec8549
      @blakec8549 Před 11 měsíci

      Yeah run and shield is never a requirement. Plenty of other options. Honestly I rarely waste a gcd on a shield. I wait for times when the boss can't be hit, unless there's a serious damage mechanic coming up. Can't speak for sage but on a scholar you won't be using a lot of gcds for heals outside of progging.

  • @Kynoss
    @Kynoss Před rokem +3

    - Mobility god
    - EXPEDIENT OVERRATED, Panhaima is the dopest button ever
    - Being the only healer without a set-down bubble skill
    - Simple enough to do your stuff and focus on mechanics
    - No real skill preparation or major resource management, spend as you go
    I needed this video so badly; I have been maining Sage this entire time and wondering if I should switch to Scholar but everything you're saying has validated my thoughts so hard THANK YOU.

    • @elgatochurro
      @elgatochurro Před rokem +1

      Sch was really fun too

    • @blakec8549
      @blakec8549 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@elgatochurro agreed. It's definitely a preference but scholar is the most fun for me. When you fall into that great cool down flow, keeping everyone alive by the skin of your teeth and still dpsing constantly you feel great.

  • @trevaughnmorris7487
    @trevaughnmorris7487 Před rokem

    Omg, Love Your Discussion And I Love How You Guys Still Will Choose Scholar Even With It’s Disadvantages Towards Sage. And OOF We Not Over That Elitism Drama😂😂😂

  • @waifudestroyer2120
    @waifudestroyer2120 Před rokem +1

    One has a crit buff and also makes my life as a blm easier doing p7s

  • @Crazycolorz5
    @Crazycolorz5 Před rokem

    I enjoy Sage, and I wish I liked Scholar more. I like to complain about Sage but it's not really anything damage related; it just feels like everything SCH can do, SGE can do with more mobility / less planning on timing. Like I think SCH maybe gains on hard heal checks via Summon Seraph and then Dissipation, but SGE's otherwise fully mobile shielding combined with a wealth of oGCD options makes them just a lot easier to pick a tool for a mechanic and use it. Basically, I feel like SCH doesn't really have a niche -- critlo tactics is a thing but it's not even close to ever *necessary* (maybe just a nice-to-have), and as you guys note SCH has something comparable in Zoe -> Euk Diag -> Holos/Panhaima.
    tl;dr buff scholar and give them something more unique please