A buddy of mine runs 52 gr of imr 3031 in his 30-06 under a 155 gr Sierra green tip c.o.l is 3.400. The gun is a ruger m77 mark 11 with a 22 in barrel and it chronos 2950 fps average with 3/4 moa accuracy. Great powder for 30-06 in my opinion.
lego myeggo I'm thinking of getting into reloading. What does he use to measure powder? Also would the same amount of imr 3031 work for 180-220gr bullets?
@@johnt4060 He uses the RCBS chargemaster. NO DO NOT use that much imr 3031 with 180 gr bullets. You would probably be better off using a slower burning powder for the big bullets. Get the new hornady reload book that will help you.
I'm sorry to hear it's July and you haven't been reloading. Where I live the prairie dog season on public land starts in July so I've been reloading quite a bit of .223 ammo. I used to use 3031 in my .223 but found a powder more suited for what I want. Loads listed in all my loading books always list more 3031 powder than will actually fit inside a .223 or 5.56 case. Here in Colorado we can't use a 22 caliber to hunt big game so my .223 is a truck gun and used for pesky critters. There is however no animal that lives here that I would be afraid to shoot with the .223.
In regards to using 150 grain bullets in . 30-06 reduced loads for deer, you will find that the bullets will expand adequately but less quickly. That actually is a good thing when it comes to unwanted excess carcass damage. Even Hornady indicates their Interlock bullets behave better at impact speeds in the sub 2700 FPS range. You really can change how a bullet behaves for the better by backing off on the gas.
Great video preacher! You and I think alike. I’m trying to get to one powder as well. Buying multiple powders takes the cost effectiveness right out of loading @ $40 per lb.
30.06 with a 150-grain bullet using IMR 3031 was the very first centre-fire load that I ever loaded. That was back in '71. I pulled the recipe out of the charge card on my new ten dollar Lee Loader tool kit. I fired the rounds in my $75 Remington Springfield 1903-A3 with a shiny new civilian stock. The load worked so well that I never tried any other until I sold the rifle in '74 and put the money toward my Weatherby Mark Five in .300 Weatherby. The 3031 was way too fast for that. I went to Du Pont IMR 4831 Now fast forward to modern times, IMR now has its five new Enduron powders that prevent new copper fouling and even diminish old copper fouling. I find no disadvantage to them whatsoever,, and, taken altogether, they can do anything that any other powder can do and just as well. Go to the IMR website to read about the powders. I am using one of them for the Weatherby and for 7 MM Mauser.
3031 is excellent choice for duplicating WWII M2 ball ammunition for the 30/06. (157-150 grain bullets) It has a very good burn rate for the gas system of the M1. In order of “best” powder for M2 ball and 165/168 grain 30/06 is IMR 4895, IMR 4064 and IMR 3031.
@@preachersdayoff awesome I normally use 60 gr imr 4350 with 150 ballistic tips, 3000 fps in a 22 inch barrel ! massive destruction to say the least but , I shoot high through both shoulders ! never had to track one! if that load works it will be a winner! God bless!
IMR 3031 is a GREAT powder with 165gr bullets and less weight in 30-06. 50gr. 3031 with 125gr bullet is killer accurate in my old SEARs 53 bolt action. 3 bullets touching,
I'm guessing you've had no bad luck loading down H335? I use lots of H335 in different calibers...the .223 being the best cartridge for it. But it works great in a .444 Marlin...very versatile powder.
Just to play I used to load, every once in a while, a few 110 gr. plinking bullets to a very high velocity. They would leave the muzzle and turn into a grey/sliver puff in the air a few yards away. I haven't done that in a long time and I don't recommend it to anyone but it does show the versatility of the 06.
I've never used 3031 in .30-06. Makes me wonder if it might make for great reduced load powder with 150 grain bullets. For deer in timber country I can't justify full house loads. 2700 fps is screaming speed for those conditions. 2500 fps and a bullet intended for .30-30 is plenty for the usual stuff.
@@preachersdayoff I checked your test fire video on .30-06 with IMR 3031. Sounds like it maxed out at 49.5 grains. Not surprised. I was approximating military 150 grain ball ammo with Hornady 150 grain Spire Points using IMR 4064 with similar charge weights. IMR 4064 is slower burning than IMR 3031, so peak pressure and max charge weights will of course be much different. My nephew shot his first deer with one of my 150 grain Hornady Spire Point handloads at about 2700 FPS. 200 honest yards on a woods road crossing. I paced 210 one direction and 215 the other. It was a slight down hill from his shooting position. Incredibly long shot for being in the woods. The load was certainly adequate. 1917 Eddystone with a 2 groove Johnson Automatics WWII era barrel. Original configuration and peep sights.
I have used IMR 3031 in 4 different cartridges with decent to perfect results. In small to medium cases is where it is at its best. That powder has been around since the 1930s. It was the best choice for several cartridges until ball powders started stealing the show in a big way in the 60s and 70s for several reasons. As for using it in .30-06, it is obviously very workable. I'm thinking reduced, low recoil loads may be where it could really shine in .30-06.
3031 is a great powder for everything I've used it in but I do believe the 150 grain bullets are small for the 30-06. I understand many people use the 30-06 as a deer hunting rifle but it is overpowered for deer in my opinion. It works well for that but so will a 50 bmg.
@@russellkeeling4387 Hello again. We seem to run in the same circles on you tube. I learned that . 30-06 and . 270 were both more than enough sauce for those Huerfano county mule deer about half a lifetime ago. I kind of laugh when somebody gets all excited about various deer cannons talking like those mags are capable of killing deer deader than dead. I believe the old .300 Savage has plenty of power in a .30 caliber deer rifle. It also shoots far enough and flat enough for deer hunting about anywhere. About any place you can hunt deer, a .300 Savage has been there shooting deer. Some friends west of town used a . 250 Savage for decades. They killed deer, elk, mountain lion and black bear with those little . 25 caliber 100 grain bullets without issue for decades. I would prefer a bit more gun myself, but it is a perfect example of what you can do if you shoot straight.
Don't use 3031 for the 180 grain bullet. You can use it but the full potential of the bullet is not achieved. IMR 4350, a slower burning powder, does very well with the 180 gr. bullet. With 3031 about 300 fps will be lost.
I have a 30-06 reloading question. I have hornady eld match 168gr bullets and imr 3031. What would be a good charge to start with? Is 2600fps achievable? Thanks in advance!
I used imr 3031 about 50 years ago when it was about the only thing I could get up in canada.I have never liked it because it doesn't perform in real cold temps.I use imr 4064 for everything from .300 savage/.308 in 150 gr.bullets at average vol. and imr 4350 for 165/180gr bullets in '06.The '06 is bolt action remington or ruger.You need to use a powder that will fill the case or even compressed loads because any void in a cartridge will cause uneven burn if you aren't shooting up or level.Pay attention to the fill rate on cartridges listed in the reload manual and quit trying to get sued for killing someone,Ok?
A buddy of mine runs 52 gr of imr 3031 in his 30-06 under a 155 gr Sierra green tip c.o.l is 3.400. The gun is a ruger m77 mark 11 with a 22 in barrel and it chronos 2950 fps average with 3/4 moa accuracy. Great powder for 30-06 in my opinion.
lego myeggo
I'm thinking of getting into reloading. What does he use to measure powder? Also would the same amount of imr 3031 work for 180-220gr bullets?
@@johnt4060 He uses the RCBS chargemaster. NO DO NOT use that much imr 3031 with 180 gr bullets. You would probably be better off using a slower burning powder for the big bullets. Get the new hornady reload book that will help you.
lego myeggo
Cool, thanks. I'm not into reloading yet but I'm looking around at what's out there.
What do i need to get started?
lego myeggo Man that's moving ,long live the 30 06.
I'm sorry to hear it's July and you haven't been reloading. Where I live the prairie dog season on public land starts in July so I've been reloading quite a bit of .223 ammo. I used to use 3031 in my .223 but found a powder more suited for what I want. Loads listed in all my loading books always list more 3031 powder than will actually fit inside a .223 or 5.56 case. Here in Colorado we can't use a 22 caliber to hunt big game so my .223 is a truck gun and used for pesky critters. There is however no animal that lives here that I would be afraid to shoot with the .223.
It'll do the job in a pinch
@@preachersdayoff 3031 will work well in the 06 as long as you stay with the lighter bullets like the 150.
In regards to using 150 grain bullets in . 30-06 reduced loads for deer, you will find that the bullets will expand adequately but less quickly. That actually is a good thing when it comes to unwanted excess carcass damage. Even Hornady indicates their Interlock bullets behave better at impact speeds in the sub 2700 FPS range. You really can change how a bullet behaves for the better by backing off on the gas.
Great info but I have no complaints about this set up. It has worked flawlessly for the last 4 or 5 years.
@@preachersdayoff No doubt it worked fine. It is hard to get any reasonable 150 grain . 30 cal soft point to not work fairly well on deer really.
Great video preacher! You and I think alike. I’m trying to get to one powder as well. Buying multiple powders takes the cost effectiveness right out of loading @ $40 per lb.
Exactly!! Let me know what powder you prefer.
@@preachersdayoff H4895 has proved real versatile for me in .223,.243,.308
I may try imr3031 because it would also do well in my 30-30
30.06 with a 150-grain bullet using IMR 3031 was the very first centre-fire load that I ever loaded. That was back in '71. I pulled the recipe out of the charge card on my new ten dollar Lee Loader tool kit. I fired the rounds in my $75 Remington Springfield 1903-A3 with a shiny new civilian stock. The load worked so well that I never tried any other until I sold the rifle in '74 and put the money toward my Weatherby Mark Five in .300 Weatherby. The 3031 was way too fast for that. I went to Du Pont IMR 4831
Now fast forward to modern times, IMR now has its five new Enduron powders that prevent new copper fouling and even diminish old copper fouling. I find no disadvantage to them whatsoever,, and, taken altogether, they can do anything that any other powder can do and just as well. Go to the IMR website to read about the powders. I am using one of them for the Weatherby and for 7 MM Mauser.
Great story and great advice. Thanks so much.
3031 is excellent choice for duplicating WWII M2 ball ammunition for the 30/06. (157-150 grain bullets) It has a very good burn rate for the gas system of the M1. In order of “best” powder for M2 ball and 165/168 grain 30/06 is IMR 4895, IMR 4064 and IMR 3031.
Thanks looking forward too next video.
It shot great and I killed two 8 point bucks with it that season.
I will have to try 3031 with 150s should be a mild load for deer here in ga!
I killed two 8pts that year with this load. No tracking needed.
@@preachersdayoff awesome I normally use 60 gr imr 4350 with 150 ballistic tips, 3000 fps in a 22 inch barrel ! massive destruction to say the least but , I shoot high through both shoulders ! never had to track one! if that load works it will be a winner! God bless!
@@preachersdayoff awesome ! if it works then by all use it , good light load!!
30-06 load: 125gr bullet, 50gr IMR 3031, 3 shots touching at 100 yds.
Nice!
IMR 3031 is a GREAT powder with 165gr bullets and less weight in 30-06.
50gr. 3031 with 125gr bullet is killer accurate in my old SEARs 53 bolt action. 3 bullets touching,
IMR 3031 will do really well in a .308 with a 150 grn bullet as well.
You got that right!
You dang right
thanks
I load the 06 with h335 for plinking ammo light recoil and good accuracy. Just goes to show how versatile the 06 really is
rt dc I am looking for plinking loads can you give me some advice ,thanks?
I'm guessing you've had no bad luck loading down H335? I use lots of H335 in different calibers...the .223 being the best cartridge for it. But it works great in a .444 Marlin...very versatile powder.
Just to play I used to load, every once in a while, a few 110 gr. plinking bullets to a very high velocity. They would leave the muzzle and turn into a grey/sliver puff in the air a few yards away. I haven't done that in a long time and I don't recommend it to anyone but it does show the versatility of the 06.
I've never used 3031 in .30-06. Makes me wonder if it might make for great reduced load powder with 150 grain bullets. For deer in timber country I can't justify full house loads. 2700 fps is screaming speed for those conditions. 2500 fps and a bullet intended for .30-30 is plenty for the usual stuff.
I shot a buck at 250 yards with it that year and another at 100. It performed very well, one dropped the other went 30 or 40 yards.
@@preachersdayoff I checked your test fire video on .30-06 with IMR 3031. Sounds like it maxed out at 49.5 grains. Not surprised. I was approximating military 150 grain ball ammo with Hornady 150 grain Spire Points using IMR 4064 with similar charge weights. IMR 4064 is slower burning than IMR 3031, so peak pressure and max charge weights will of course be much different. My nephew shot his first deer with one of my 150 grain Hornady Spire Point handloads at about 2700 FPS. 200 honest yards on a woods road crossing. I paced 210 one direction and 215 the other. It was a slight down hill from his shooting position. Incredibly long shot for being in the woods. The load was certainly adequate. 1917 Eddystone with a 2 groove Johnson Automatics WWII era barrel. Original configuration and peep sights.
I have used IMR 3031 in 4 different cartridges with decent to perfect results. In small to medium cases is where it is at its best. That powder has been around since the 1930s. It was the best choice for several cartridges until ball powders started stealing the show in a big way in the 60s and 70s for several reasons. As for using it in .30-06, it is obviously very workable. I'm thinking reduced, low recoil loads may be where it could really shine in .30-06.
3031 is a great powder for everything I've used it in but I do believe the 150 grain bullets are small for the 30-06. I understand many people use the 30-06 as a deer hunting rifle but it is overpowered for deer in my opinion. It works well for that but so will a 50 bmg.
@@russellkeeling4387 Hello again. We seem to run in the same circles on you tube. I learned that . 30-06 and . 270 were both more than enough sauce for those Huerfano county mule deer about half a lifetime ago. I kind of laugh when somebody gets all excited about various deer cannons talking like those mags are capable of killing deer deader than dead. I believe the old .300 Savage has plenty of power in a .30 caliber deer rifle. It also shoots far enough and flat enough for deer hunting about anywhere. About any place you can hunt deer, a .300 Savage has been there shooting deer. Some friends west of town used a . 250 Savage for decades. They killed deer, elk, mountain lion and black bear with those little . 25 caliber 100 grain bullets without issue for decades. I would prefer a bit more gun myself, but it is a perfect example of what you can do if you shoot straight.
What would be the load for30-06 180 grains bullet IMR 3031
Don't use 3031 for the 180 grain bullet. You can use it but the full potential of the bullet is not achieved. IMR 4350, a slower burning powder, does very well with the 180 gr. bullet. With 3031 about 300 fps will be lost.
too slow for 180s
I have a 30-06 reloading question. I have hornady eld match 168gr bullets and imr 3031. What would be a good charge to start with? Is 2600fps achievable? Thanks in advance!
Its hard to say because my load data is for 150 gr. You could start 3 or 4 grains below my load and work up from there.
off course it's achievable,get yourself a good reloading book.
interested to see how they work!
Me too! But its so hot right now I might melt trying to find out.
I like varget or 335
Is imr 3031 a relatively slow burning powder?
It's right in the middle
lego myeggo ok thanks
It’s actually on the fast end for 30/06.
No, it's a little faster than most medium burning powders. It still a medium burning powder. It's a good 06 powder.
@@josecanisales3491 it’s gotten to be one of my favorites now, works well in my weatherby
I used imr 3031 about 50 years ago when it was about the only thing I could get up in canada.I have never liked it because it doesn't perform in real cold temps.I use imr 4064 for everything from .300 savage/.308 in 150 gr.bullets at average vol. and imr 4350 for 165/180gr bullets in '06.The '06 is bolt action remington or ruger.You need to use a powder that will fill the case or even compressed loads because any void in a cartridge will cause uneven burn if you aren't shooting up or level.Pay attention to the fill rate on cartridges listed in the reload manual and quit trying to get sued for killing someone,Ok?
interested
Waaaaay too fast of a powder for that
Shoots great! Tight groups and deer drop with it.