Famous synth sounds of the 80's and 90's, Part 2 (CS-80,CMI,DX7,TB-303,TR-808,TR-909,MS-20,M1,TX81Z)
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- Part 2 of the series where I show you some examples of very famous synthesizer presets used in many 80's and 90's hits.
Featuring sounds from the Yamaha CS-80, Fairlight CMI, Yamaha DX7, Yamaha TX81Z, Korg M1, Roland TR-808, Roland TR-909, Roland TB-303 and Korg MS-20
Thanks to Twan to let me use a small part from his Jaydee Interview.
Check out his channel Muzikxpress: / @muzikxpress
Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:08 Yamaha CS-80 (Vangelis - Blade Runner Theme)
2:36 Fairlight CMI (Art of Noise - Moments In Love)
3:13 Fairlight CMI (Afrika Bambaata & Soulsonic Force - Planet Rock)
3:45 Yamaha DX7 (Angelo Badalamenti - Twin Peaks Theme)
4:34 Roland D-50 (Michael Jackson - Dirty Diana)
5:00 Korg M1 (Queen - I'm Going Slightly Mad)
5:45 Korg M1 (Snap - Rhythm Is a Dancer)
6:03 Korg M1 (Gat Decor - Passion)
6:12 Roland TR-808
7:29 Roland TR-909
8:38 Yamaha TX81Z (Whigfield - Saturday Night)
9:09 Yamaha TX81Z (Gat Decor - Passion)
9:25 Yamaga TX81Z (Jaydee - Plastic Dreams)
9:57 Roland TB-303
11:45 Korg MS-20 (Daft Punk - Da Funk)
13:10 Korg MS-20 (Mr Oizo - Flat Beat)
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Before you start commenting:
1. I am aware that the lowest bass note of Whigfield - Saturday Night is incorrect. I played it by ear when wearing headphones and for some reason it makes the real low notes sound different than they actually are.
I can not correct this without deleting and reuploading the video so I'm going to leave it in. So a good tip (That I knew about but seemed to have forgotten in this case): Check your bass on multiple systems, it can do weird tricks in headphones.
2. The 'Da Funk' TB-303 bassline I show in the video is just an approximation to give an example of one the 303 timbres, it isn't intended to be an exact replica. I only spent a very limited amount of time programming that example and recreated it quickly by ear. This video is about the synths, sounds and techniques , not about doing covers, there are other channels for that.
And a shoutout to @muzikxpress : thanks for letting me use a small part of your Jaydee interview.
Check out the muzikxpress channel here guys, lots of interesting interviews: czcams.com/channels/DqV1Nt74R7pNWLL6LjQjcQ.html
Thanks so much!!! Keep up the great work!!!
... and some day, Whigfield became a cannon, next to Bach and John Williams 😅😅😅. Thank you so much for this documentary. It sounds like you put a lot of efforts doing it. Great job!
Hahah yeah who would have expected that. It's a very clear example of LatelyBass usage though :D
I posted the real pattern in another comment if you want to give it a spin. Don't forget the three accents!
@@Estuera PLEASE make more YAMAHA CS1x 80s Synth Tracks Jonas!!!
That Bladerunner tune always brings a tear in the rain for me.
Someone had to say it 😁
My first association - 5 notes from "close encounters of the third type"
Dirty Diana - Goran Bregovic, "Scena pojavljivanja majke"
Interesting fact: Roland tr 808 and 909 were popular on early electro and techno scene not because they sounded great but just because they were dirt cheap
Don’t forget about early hiphop too. They were snatching them up even before house producers
I think Liem from The Prodigy used 808 for first two albums.
and now them shits expensive as fuck
There's rumor that Roland even dumped quite a lot of 909s, because they didn't sell well. It took them quite a while to really become popular. When they were still produced not many people wanted them, because they didn't sound like real drums.
You nailed it!thank you for the milestones in music-history👏🙏
Très belle seconde rétrospective !
Once again, another beautiful video very well documented and musically illustrated !
I loved !
Thank Jonas !!!
Merci :)
That's an amazing trip back in synth time to the 80's and 90's , all sounding damn good with the headphones , The Fairlight was way ahead of its time when it was invented , kinda brought sampling to a new level , Mike Oldfield used it on some of his albums too , its always good to learn something new , brilliant synth history to share , big thumbs flying high !!
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Great video! Well done! Old school synth history is always interesting)
Loved this, and part 1. Thanks man
Love the way u show us notes as u go through thanks..very interesting vid👍👍👍
Another GREAT VIDEO!!! Thanks!!! 🎹🎹🎹👍
1:30 When you said 'this synth is very rare...' I immediately remembered my first years of synths, how desperately I wanted to have such a vintage beast. But since I've seen restorations on channels like Syntaur (CS-80!) and Marcus Fuller, and having read about the tuning issues with these legends I realize I'm better of with softsynths or modern replicas
This is so good and helpful. Thanks very much!!
I'm glad you mentioned the Fairlight. I commented on another channels video and they replied it was the sinclavier
I love that sound from Korg M1 for the Eurodance Hits, thank you for your job !!
Thanks for the trip down memory lane... :-)
Though released in 88, the M1 to me is the 90s synth. And I can never get enough of the lately bass either. Great vid!
Same here... Agree
Thanks to your video, I finally found out what the name of the synth that they use in several musics that drive me crazy! It's Fairlight CMI!
Thank you a lot, bro!
thanksss so much very good reportage marvellous
D-50 and Oberheim Matrix 1000 were my two favorite synths from this era. But so many great synths!!! I remember being at the LA Convention Center when the M1 just came out and the Korg guy was demoing it. He did that bit from the movie Jaws and nailed it.
FANTASTIC...thank you
Great video love that synth
A lot of people don’t like E.Piano 1 and think it’s overused. It’s actually such a good sound!
Yes, I think it can really sound great if used in the right way. Especially in a more modern context with a bit of overdrive and maybe a phaser.
you're right. I play it on a regular base on my mk1 and.. it's just so beautiful. It's as "overused" as a grandpiano.
I think it's a great sound it only got a bad rap because it was used so much. It's the kind of sound that's great to layer with other sounds.
this is great trivia for those of use who know the synths and the songs but not that they were used, entertaining and all round educational
Very fun. Thanks! Love LatelyBass.
Great video!
Thank you a lot!
Way back in the day, in the 1980's, on Saturday afternoon, I was given a tour around the Fairlight office in Sydney, Australia, where the their CMI's were designed. The guy giving the tour explained that for the piano sound, they sampled every fourth note on an acoustic piano for the piano sound. If they just pitch shifted everything, then it didn't sound like a piano. Ah, those were the "good old days."
Around '84 my friend had an Emu Drumulator that was mis-behaving so we went to the office of the importer in London to get a replacement. While waiting in the reception area I noticed that the shipping box I was using as a makeshift seat had "Fairlight CMI - Property of P. Gabriel" stenciled on the side ... possibly the most expensive chair I've ever sat on !
@@Error6503 Hello Tony: When I read what you said, I really did laugh out loud. Have lovely day and stay well and safe.
Were they actually based in Fairlight/Manly?
@@rowanjones3476 Hello Robert: No, they were not in Manly or Fairlight. The building I went to was very close to New South Head Road, in Rushcutters Bay. From memory, one of the principles used to live in Fairlight. I was surprised to find out that Fairlight is still running and creating audio tools.
Plastic Dreams - Classic, Didn't know that's where the organ came from. Thanks!
Thank you 🤝
Another great video :-)
Awesome video!
This is worth a subscription. Keep up the good vids!
Thanks and welcome 🎉
Okay, I'm not gonna lie, that choir in Queen caught me completely by surprise.
It's such a fantastic sound
Excellent great video great content
The Fairlight CMI is also used by Kate Bush, and it is featured in her most famous song, Running Up That Hill. It gained popularity due to Stranger Things Season 4.
You should do Part 3! There are a lot more songs to cover such as Blue Monday, Take On Me, Africa, Radio Ga Ga, and the Doctor Who 80s theme.
I would argue that it was quite popular in the 80s as well, but Stranger Things helped it suddenly becoming popular to a new generation.
Awesome videos keep it up 👍👍
Great stuff
Dankeschön. Vieles wusste ich noch nicht. (Thank you dear Jonas)
Great video 👊👊💥
Mega cool vidddd
TX81Z is unique because it can be microtuned, so you can use microchromatic scales, really interesting stuff to play with
One that I found back when I had my DX-7, I discovered a patch that I think was called "Tubular Bells". It was an absolute dead ringer for the low-bell sound at the beginning of the Top Gun Anthem track by Harold Faltermeyer. It was an octave F# if memory serves. My DX-7 had some kind of memory expansion in it, so this may not have been in the original DX-7 patches. I should never have sold that keyboard.
The 'Tub Bells' patch indeed. Used quite a lot. Its for example also used very clearly in Laura Branigan's 'Self control'
@@Estuera raised in the 90s and I first heard that tubular bell sound in The Undertaker theme song 🎹
I'm wondering if Taco Bell commercials use that bell patch and I'm also wondering if Enya used it to.
I thought Enya was all D50 😂
MJ took intro Beat It from vinyl record Danny Jaeger demo Synclavier from 1981. Not only sample but whole 7 notes motive.
Yeah, as I say in the video, I don't think the last has been said about this already 😬
but why should he sample a synclavier when he had two in studio?
@@F-Andre That sound was replayed on Synclavier in studio because MJ loved IT - said Bruce Swedien who was audio engineer with Thriller. So indeed there is not sample from the record, but only music.
My introduction to Digital Native Dance was the intro to David Lee Roth's Skyscraper
wow u have a nice channel :D thank for to share your knowledge
My pleasure :)
Great videos both from the 80' love that sound , I wish I have a list of most all the classics songs from the 80 ' with the synth they use and also the patches or the presets , do you know if there is any , keep doing this 80 videos , all the best
of course i want more of this! 😃
Cheers.
The Twin Peaks theme always reminds me of a Herman van Veen song (Een vriend zien huilen)... Same era, probably same synth :) Great content, keep it up!
Gotta check that one. I expect to hear a lush epiano :)
An underrated sound I love is the PPG Choir from... the PPG Wave😅It's on Forever Young by Alphaville and See You by Depeche Mode... actually, I was able to recreate most of that song completely on a PPG Wave plugin! Pretty neat. I love fake choir sounds😁
Yes, those sounds certainly have a special charm 😊
Yes, that's correct - a lot of Ppg in Forever Young. I also recreated that track using mostly a Ppg vst and a jupiter-8v :)
Thank You so much for these wonderful videos: part 1 and part 2! I was curious if you could comment in another video, if possible and or demonstrate the Synclavier keyboards. Also if you could please talk about the Kurzweil keyboards as well as the ARPs and the Moogs too. Thank You again for all your hard and insightful work! Robert from Miami, FL. 😊
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I recently acquired my personal "holy grail" synth - the Roland D-50 (in the form of the boutique D-05) and it still sounds beautifully crystalline. I'll probable be never able to build a patch from scratch though, not with that menu system :)
Talking about Roland menus...I have a very interesting but probably difficult Roland challenge waiting for me. A friend loaned me his old D-20 (which is absolutely not even close to the D-50 btw) and I'm going to try to create some new patches on it and see if it actually can do some really nice sounds that don't synth like general midi...
@@Estuera Good luck. From what I remember, the D20 has even fewer controls than the D50. Menu diving fun, oh boy. :)
Yeah, I managed the M1 pretty well, but it has a very logical and easy menu actually.
The TX81Z I edited using a contoller... maybe I can find something like that for the D-20 as well if the menu diving really gets in the way too much.
@@EstueraI thoughts most people would love the M1 for its presets. I have the M3R, for now I haven't tried to program my own sounds with it.
The Linn LM-1/LinnDrum was everywhere for a good portion of the 80s, I think it's prime material for a part 3
If you don't mind going back to the Fairlight again, I'm almost sure the glass shattering sound on Babooshka by Kate Bush was part of the Fairlight's original stock library
The Sequential Circuits Prophet-5 has had plenty of memorable hits, but I can't quite find lots of sources on specific ones
I think there still is enough left for a part 3 so thanks for the suggestions ! :)
4:56 ROLAND D-50 .... Nightmare on Elm Street Part 3 and 4 ... major element of soundtrack.... I had hooked up 4 speakers to my mono VHS player and used the National Pansonic TV as centre and invented my own surround sound in my house .... way back in 1987-1988
I think this sound is heard in half a dozen movies with Bruce Willis ( before he became Die Hard action hero ) ( of course i know how many...I exaggerate )..
That try at the Da Funk acid line. Close, but definitely no prize for you.
I love the Korg MS-20 - I'd even go as far as saying it's my favourite monosynth. The artists that I feel have made the most use of it are Front 242 and the "Neue Deutsche Welle" bands such as Die Krupps and Liaisons Dangereuses. That distinctive filter and the oscillators detuned against each other give the synth such a distinct sound.
Yes, I really love it. For some reason I end up using it in almost every track I produce.
Sh-101 is also very famous for it’s techno and electro influence
4:19 That sound is my childhood, man! ^_^
Wow, great episode again, Jonas, by the way, my 3 years old daughter loves the video clip from mr oizo - flat beat.
It _is_ a great clip 😁
TR808! Probably my fave thing in this whole list! :)
The Roland TR-808 is what I was searching
Great video - part 3?
Just a note to the Roland D-50 : Jean Michael Jarre was a prototype tester of the D-50 an his album "Revolutions" is made to 80% with sounds from the D-50.
I love how Jarre used voices in Zoolook
@@mtjoy747 Zoolook is a very special album. Jarre got his Fairlight CMI and, of cause, made extensive use of the sampler.
I think that nobody else used the Fairlight in the way he did.
for Album Bad, he worked with Eric piercing ( Spectrasonic)he was sound designer for this synth
Digital Native Dance was also used by Laurent Boutonnat on Mylène Farmer's song "Allan".
Make a part 3 Please? 🥺 And could you talk about keyboards used in todays EDM hits (like early 2000's).
A part 3 is on the list. Not sure when yet though.
Rest in peace Vangelis 🙏
Great video and made me feel not so guilty for using presets 😂
Just use whatever works for your music indeed 😉👍
The CS-80 Yum
The sound of that CS-80 reminds me of the intro to 4th chamber from liquid swords
I use a Korg Monologue for base sounds and sequences. Its a great midi controller!
3:00 this sample can also be heard countless times throughout the kirby series starting with super star on the snes
The Preset "00 Universe" on the Korg M1 whas used for the beginning of the main title from "Rain Man" H + F#1 + H1
The opening notes of the Bladerunner soundtrack remind me of the cave and winter music from Stardew Valley, I wonder if he used the same instrument/ patch or whatever to make it. Love those ones.
You need to cover the very famous Casio CZ-1000 Organ Preset and the Roland JD-990's Thor Preset. Both are used very often in lots of tracks in the 90s
how about Holdin' back the years from Simply Red, love the piano track on there. not sure if you already did that one, I'll relisten to part 1, but that's a good electric piano from beginning to end.
Be nice to have some info on the sounds of Depeche Mode and Vince Clark's after DM projects.
Yes, some things to look into for a possible part 3.
@@Estuera Oh yes, please!!! That choir sound of the M1 on "Enjoy the silence", or DM's use of the Emulator II throughout the 80s.
Vince Clarke used the Roland Jupiter 4 during his DM days (although he mostly used it monophonically - he's always preferred layering monophonic parts to build up intervals rather than chords played on one sound). For Yazoo, he mostly used a Sequential Pro One and a Fairlight. For the Assembly single and early Erasure, he added several Casio CZ-101's that he liked for their multi-timbral features. By the late 1980s, he was using loads of monophonic analogues, having become disenchanted with digital stuff.
Hi Jonas, I don’t know the synth, but for sure 2 Unlimited made several hits a same synth with that incredible sawtooth wave!
That breathy synth sound on the Art of Noise track was later replayed by The Dayton Family for the title track of "What's on my mind"
Another awesome video, I’ve always wondered what synth PKA used in their track Let Me Hear You Say Yeah, any ideas?
It depends what sound you mean. The synth with the sliding notes _might_ be a SH 101. But I'm absolutely not sure
@@Estuera sorry, I should have been more clear, the main synth that kicks in just after the track starts
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I have the Korg M1r and it's d/a converter frequency is at 32khz so that is why it sounds different than the vst I think, because the vst has whatever frequency that your daw project is using. So that is why I think it is better to have the original hardware. Also the TB 303 actually does sound like a real bass guitar if you play it through a bass amplifier and create a pattern that a typical basist would play. And it actually sounds like a perfectly played bass guitar, but if you just use a random pattern that a bassist would never play and only use the treble frequencies and distortion then it sounds like acid so the way it is used in acid is more like a sound effect I think.
I think the acid way of using the TB-303 is more interesting than trying to get a regular bass out of it though. There are synths that do a way better job at that. (The TX81Z for example :D )
That being said, with some nice distortion it certainly sounds great.
@@Estuera yeah I have the Behringer TD-3 and it's a lot of fun to play with "acid sounds" but I did hook it up to a guitar amp and it sounds much different like that, especially the accent function can make it sound more like a bass guitar than an ordinary synth because it puts those accents and slides in on selected notes which changes the timbre (if that is what it is called) of certain notes which an electric bassist would kind of do... I haven't seen accents and slides on other synths but the sequencer on my behringer ms1 does have accents. Ok my Korg volca Kick also has accents and slides.
Yeah , accents and slides is a very typical TB-303 sequencer thing that plays a huge role in getting it to really groove.
I’ve always wanted to know what was the lead synth line from “this is acid” by Maurice made with?
i'd like to see you get something about the prodigy, what the onr sounds used to and the synthesizers.
I made a video that touches upon this a little bit (at least the Prodigy rave years) : czcams.com/video/XUWeD9OOn3Y/video.html
There's a good chance I'll be revisiting genres that the Prodigy used to make and go a bit deeper into the techniques. (Spoiler alert: loads of sampling :D )
@@Estuera That's cool. I hope to see something similar from you. Good luck to you)))
He used the sampling and sequencing features of his Roland W-30 on everything until a few years ago. Liam Howlett loves that machine so much that he bought Roland UK's last stocks of spare keys since he kept on breaking them!
Hi. If you could identify, how the sound of the first 20 seconds of "Scooter - Rhapsody in E" is made, it would be great.
great video! JP-8080 for PT3? :)
I knew I heard a voice like yours before. You sound strikingly similar to Werner Herzog, both with pronunciation and voice timbre - that distinct hoarseness. It is very pleasing to listen.
I really need to hear an example of this now 🤔
@@Estuera Herzog often self-narrates his documentaries. Search for example for "Cave of Forgotten Dreams".
Side note: you perceive your own voice quite differently to us. You might not feel that similarity.
7:55 all gas no brakes was an early adopter of the 909
nice tee
Part 3 please
I don't play any instruments but I always wondered if there was a model of synthesizer that would integrate all the existing models, a kind of all in one ?
My lovely preset from An1X is All We Day
Passion might be the best house track ever made 😁
And then, as if by magic, I found my old copy of Rebirth and it works fine on my Windows 7 backup laptop. Great little program
The introduction sound from Michael Jackson’s Beat It was a Synclavier sample sound called GALACTIC CYMBAL from the demo record for the sampling keyboard. They just sampled the Synclavier demo record sound to a Fairlight CMI sampler.
Yeah well, the jury is still out on that. There's a whole discussion ongoing in the comments section of part 1 of these series: czcams.com/video/Lsz0gGRWyvM/video.html
@@Estuera I have the Synclavier app on my iPad. Cost of the app is $50.
@@Estuera that and the Peter Vogel CMI app (FAIRLIGHT CMI app) also $50.
@ReaktorLeak the one from Arturia?
for the ms-20 check out il caeser la melodia de amor
A tutorial on how to re-create these classic sounds on modern synths like Serum or Vital would be awesome! Esp. that M1 piano :-)
Not a bad idea but for the M1 piano I have to dissappoint you. The M1 sounds are based on copyrighted Korg samples. Vital is wavetable based which, although these also can be (very short) samples, is a different technology. Recreating an exact M1 piano won't be possible.
The best way to get that sound besides the hardware is the Korg Legacy M1 plugin. It contains the actual samples and sounds 99% the same.
Yes, but this question is about the M1 presets Piano8' and Piano16 (which most people nowadays will call the house piano) , not the M1 electric pianos that indeed have a DX7 flavour.
@@Estuera With your vast Knowledge, I have a question. Will we ever get the Kurzweil 2000/2500 sound?
@@paulj9821 If I can get my hands on one maybe yes
@@jonassteur9538 The only solution for now that is the most practical for me is to buy a Kurzweil 2500 Rack. It amazes me that still to his day nobody has been able to replicate the Iconic sounds from that Synth. Also Kurzweil doesn't have the source code for it either. The guy that did all the synth engine work(code) was some type of maverick genius. He did everything in his head. He died suddenly in the 90's and the source code with him.
Beat it was taken from a synclaiver demo. The dude that made the demo is now included in the credits. Wasn't originally. The sound has been sampled in fairlight cmi and the EMU, but it originally comes from the synclaiver.
See sticky comment indeed.
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Hello Estuera, just a little comment on Twink Peak's Electric Piano. Accordingly to a keyboard magazine article, that sound is a preset (n.18: El.Piano 1) of a stock e-Mu PROteus/1 . You can also hear that peculiar bass sound that makes the root notes while the piano is doing chords... That's a preset of the PROteus/1 too :) . That's so eighties indeed :)))
According to an article I read its probably a combination of several things but a DX7 was clearly mentioned.
Can you link me to the article ?
@@Estuera Still have the printed magazine somewhere and need to find it out but i perfectly remember the Angelo Badalamenti's interview and he personally mentioned the use of PROteus/1 as the mainstream synth for Twink Peaks main theme composition. If you have the chance to listen to the original song and the PROteus/1 preset, you'll notice that preset... Your rendition is nice indeed and a bit more plucked... I like it.
czcams.com/video/J2J0VWTlKu8/video.html 2:30 for the bass sound
@@Estuera czcams.com/video/J2J0VWTlKu8/video.html 5:39 for El.Piano 1
Ok. If he said it himself I'm not gonna argue with that.
Thanks for the info 👍
Seems my source is wrong.