S2:E2 - Gears of War: E-Day
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- We're back with another community discussion stream! This time, Chaps is joined by Neon Velocity, Ace McCloud, and Terry HB to discuss Gears of War: E-Day.
BChaps Links:
- Twitter: / bchapy
Neon's Links:
- Twitter: / neon_velocity
- CZcams: / neonvelocity
Terry's Links:
- Twitter: / terryhb_
- Gears PC Discord: / discord
Ace's Links:
- Twitter: / acesmccloud
- CZcams: / @acemccloud
- Twitch: / acesmccloud
Timestamps:
0:00:00 - Intros
0:02:55 - Why E-Day?
0:26:45 - Campaign & Lore - COG & UIR
0:39:50 - Campaign & Lore - Locust
0:45:59 - Campaign & Lore - Weapons
0:50:53 - "Feeling" of the Game
1:03:29 - PvP Modes
1:39:08 - PvE Modes
1:54:38 - Release Timing
2:02:32 - Closing Thoughts
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I'll pin a comment here with some updates...
We'll add to the list if anything else comes up (hopefully not), but right now all we have is:
- Females totally were allowed to join the COG around E-Day. They were just limited to non-frontline work. There's totally a possibility that Anya will be the voice in our head. Not sure how we blanked on that one...my-b
TWO HOURS of e-day discussion?! Oh baby 🍿🍿
Hi BCHAPY, good to have you back mate. It is great seeing all(well most) of the Gears family coming back. I never went away, as in I play several Gears daily (but mainly Gears 3 KOTH/TDM) and belong to various Xbox Gears clubs. We have so much to look forward too in the coming months/next year. Cheers. Duffman.
Great discussion guys. I would love to see a pve mode akin to helldivers but realistically that would take to much resources
It’s nice to have someone on the panel who’s Biracial like Terry. His accent is so hot 😅
In my opinion, I feel like seeing that the announcement was Gears ED rather than Gears 6 is greatly in response to mass community feedback.
I say this because if we pay a little more attention to the trailer, we need to look at what we see and remember what feedback we've had over the years. Let's look at the main talking points (design wise) that many people have made
- Back to its roots
- Dark and Gritty
- Gore
Now, if we look at the trailer. We can see it's gone right back to its origins, the environment is dark and bleak, they put massive focus on the internals of the Locust's neck which demonstrates gore. Watching that trailer felt like the devs saying "We heard you, look, this is what you asked for!"
I think that's great but then that would raise the question for the sake of discussion, why did they make that choice? IN MY OPINION a multimillion dollar company in theory could do what they want unless they recognise that they're really hemorrhaging players, which is money. I feel like if the new design of 4 & 5 was rejected by many and it potentially reflected in the numbers internally. I think this mass rejection was notable enough to make them feel urgency to "win back" their customers by providing what they have been asking for, rather than continuing on a route that people have been very vocal about not liking and not wanting. Based on this, I personally think it'd be an unusual decision to spend millions creating a new game knowing full well that the rejection would likely continue.
Despite that, I would be surprised if they never finish the story and never make Gears 6. I think they will finish Gears 6 but I feel like the choice to go back to this E-Day style is purely a business move to try and earn back player trust, before trying to hope those players will try a Gears 6 style game.
@bchapy, women were a part of the COG before. How about Helene Stroud, Anya's mother? She died in the same battle as Carlos Santiago if I'm not mistaken
Good call. And Anya did join earlier. I deinerly) definitely messed that up...
I would love to see Gears Of War E-Day ship with horde mode, plus another PvE, if it makes sense. The Coalition have been slowly evolving the mode with the introduction of classes, then perks and ultimate abilities, but other elements need to be looked into. I liked the idea of some of the map being struck by the Hammer Of Dawn, but you could also have maps that dynamically change like Avalanche used to. Happy to see a future for this series being confirmed.
Wonder if they will add the new ememies they made for gears tactics?
You can take an enemy meatsheild right after yanking them over cover, just press x.
Regarding Horde, I really don't think they will mess too much with the one game mode in this franchise that has had any life. It wouldn't be able to follow lore because the enemies wouldn't have any variation from that point in the time line. The only life in this franchise now (until the TV/Movie stuff drops) is PVE. They cured the 50 wave in one spot problem by bringing out frenzy. Shannon did so much great work on Gears 5 they aren't going to mess with that too much.
Gears 2 horde was requested but was barely populated when they added it to 5. Nostalgia, that's not going to get much player time in 2025/6.
If we get horde, i just want fortifications to be player specific. Omg i hate it when people move my vertical barriers in a hallway horizontally Jesus christ.
I think that it wouldn't be good in Horde mode if it had all the things you did in gears 4 and 5 Horde, yes be able to put up defence's but not anything like laser fences or anything. Id like to see the ability to be able to put up cover as well as defence's you know like sandbags or something. Still have it so it can get damaged though. As for the release date i suppose it depends on how long they have been working on it for, is it recent or have they been working on it all the time we thought they were developing Gears 6?
Spike fences and wire fences to slow people down.
Sandbags and deployable cover (and maybe boom shield) to act as cover and blockaids.
Then no senties or turrets. Make the players do the damage.
@@TacCom Yeah Gears 2 Horde with a few tweeks that help but not enough to take away the challenge. And ability to put down sandbags or whatever so the rush to pick up all the boomshields before they vanish. Either that or they make them so they don't vanish at all but i'm sure some people would exploit that so probably not a good idea.
Great watch, some comments on various sections, Dark and Gritty. I liked the look of Gears 5 but can understand why they want to go back but why not give the choice, they showed in Gears 5 they could add different colour palettes etc.
Super Locust strength, curious to see how they explain how they went from a locust lifting Marcus like a bag of sugar to losing 1v1 chainsaw battles for strength.
I've not been a fan of Gears PVP since Gear3, it's had its time. It's dead and Close Quarters hyperactive wall bouncing is never coming back for popularity. A new generation do not want to play that type of gameplay. It's ridiculous to watch as a viewer as well. I want something different, Arcade gets a fair bit of hate and I saw a lot of players wanting it removed, yet in G5 it was the one mode I could find lots of players fast. Sure it needed balancing but I found it the most fun I've had in Gears pvp since overrun. I would take any PVP mode they try to land over wall bouncing shot gun game. Don't believe me, watch how fast it dies after people play the campaign. It's not accessible and it's not 2007 anymore. 2007 a new game came out and most of your Friends list was playing the same game. 2024, a far bigger friends list and I'm lucky to see 5 players playing the same game. There's so much shooter choice out there compared to 2007-10, a CQ shotgun game is not going to cut it.
whatever happens I just hope we get some form of pve outside of the campaign. I loved playing as a random cog gear and fighting as long as I could against waves of grubs
Shipping a gears game without horde just sounds ridiculous to me. A gears game is like a three legged stool: campaign, pve and pvp. Without three it just doesn't stand.
@@StephenYuan judgment and tactics both shipped without horde. I know judgment was PCF's and Epic's baby but still. You never know what the devs are thinking...
Judgment had Survival, which was basically that game's take on Horde.
@@captainmorgan9399Horde in tactics just doesn't make any sense with that genre.
A few points.
BATTLE ROYALE
A battle Royale could work well if it's just a 1 life free for all mode with lots of hammer of dawn strikes coming down as the boundary or a poison gas or krill.
HORDE MODE
I just want a simple horde mode again. I don't want to build huge fortifications. No collecting money, no level up system. Just let me jump in at level 32 and not a have a disadvantage. Each round you are given X number of supplies automatically. You only ever have enough for a few fortifications. At the end of the round you are now given X amount of supplies. Fortifications that are already built subtract from supplies you are given, but you can dismantle them to get the supplies back. (Also fortifications are auto repaired at the end of rounds). All barrier fortifications should have fixed locations. Sentries, turrets ECT can be placed anywhere.
Weapons spawn on the map like normal.
Every 10 rounds something forces you to move location. Maybe have those command poles from gears 3, every 10 rounds the command pole you just used goes offline. This prevents all repairs and resupplies to that area. Maybe even have it that some command poles are only available in higher levels. Or are at random.
I just had another. They use krill to shut down areas of the map. The lights in an area start to flicker, then shortly after they go out allowing the krill to kill you in that area
MODES
Have a mode like halos action sack for more high respawn rate but fun modes. So TDM, Guardian, Meat Bag, king of the hill. Then have 1 life teams playlist that contains Execution and warzone. Then have Wingman by itself.
Have yall never played gears 5? Theres literally that game mechanic buddy is speaking about in 1:00:50
When the swarm are beating you on the ground and a teammate can execute them with a knife in their back in Gears 5.
Yeah, but what I meant was building upon that, it would be more hurried, chaotic, might take two teammates to rescue you close up as the drones are stronger or a sniper shot from a distance, there would be less time to rescue as they’re stronger.
You wouldn’t stroll over, like you do in Gears 5.
That’s how I’d expect the melee to advance, building on a past mechanic but dialing it up more so than Quick Time Events, but scripted events might be there too.
Hey why did they do this the should have done g6
I would have been 100% satisfied with them doing G6 and wrapping up that story.
That said, I feel they really wanted a way to win back the trust of the fans...and I'm totally satisfied with this.
Part of me really wants to see the G4/5 arc wrap up, and needing to wait another however many years will be painful. Something like a Fenix Collection delaying G6 would have made me mad. Something like this being the reason for G6 being delayed...you know what, I can get behind this decision.
@@TacCom I liked G5 and wanted to know how the story continued, but going back to young Marcus and Dom will be a nice palette cleanser so I don't mind.
they said they didn't want to sleep on the idea any longer and that 6 is still in progress. with how bad 5s story was I wouldn't mind a trip down nostalgia lane
They need to get rid of boomshot and other weapons that give kills for free
They're called Power Weapons , kiddo.
cant watch anything with Terry or that Progear guy. Both toxic horrible people.
Even if you disagree with people, I still feel it's important to let a variety of voices be heard.
You’re totally right about Terry his views definitely do not fit the original vision of GoW. We should boycott him
Very poor discussion most of these guys dont even know about the lore of Gears Of War and are talking mostly about 4 and 5.
Waste of time for OG fans.
Sorry you feel that way. We're just Gears fans having a friendly chat about potential paths for the new game.
If you think you'd be better, I'd encourage you do join a future discussion and show people what "OG fans" want to see...