Byungchul wins Men's Individual Foil Bronze - London 2012 Olympics
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Highlights as Korea's Choi Byungchul wins Bronze in the Men's Individual Foil during the London 2012 Olympic Games.
Fencing was included for the first time at the 1896 Games in Athens, and has remained on the Olympic programme since then. The women's fencing competition entered the Games in 1924 in Paris. Today, men and women compete in individual and team events, in which three types of weapon are used: foil, epee and sabre. The foil was, at first, the only weapon used by women, until the 1996 Games in Atlanta, when women's epee was introduced. Women's sabre appeared for the first time on the Olympic programme in Athens in 2004.
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I went to KOREA and went to his fencing club. He was really nice and such a good fencer. All the credits goes to him with all his effort.^^
Did you know what his fencing clun name???? ,
I want to go too.
@@oongoong7836 Choi's Fencing Club in Hannam-dong
I get annoyed whenever someone criticizes Choi for having "barbaric" or "un-pretty" footwork. Even more so when they try to say that this means he has bad footwork. The thing is, while unorthodox, his footwork is considered the best in the world by many. Why? Because IT WORKS. IT GETS HIM TOUCHES. HE DOMINATED THE BOUT. His footwork best achieves what the ACTUAL goal of footwork was: to be able to move sharply in any direction at any point in the movement. The fact that he was "everywhere all the time" is a testament to how GOOD his footwork is, not how bad it is. He was able to change speeds quickly and efficiently and was able to control himself (didn't fall over, center-of-gravity stayed center, etc.) all the while. This is sport fencing, not classical fencing. Also, I, myself, think his footwork, while not classical-pretty, is amazingly cool to watch in its own way. He's like a ninja! He can do all the coolest moves with ease. I'm not trying to be mean to anybody, but seriously! There's more to footwork than just being pretty. That is all :)
he is quite sloppy though
Ben Carlick as a former foil and now sabre, I can tell you that whether or not footwork is pretty really doesn’t matter. As long as it’s effective and dominates, then it’s fair game.
@RandomThoughts choi took part in a south korean variety show called master in the house in 2020. He said he's on the smaller build for fencers so he had to compensate while following the rules. He did a demo against the number 2 (junior? as he seemed to be around 16yo-ish) national champ and it was amazing (he explained what he did and made fun of himself losing a point) even though he got winded pretty quick, lol. He kept pressing how you have to be agile, agile, agile.
I like how the coach just casually wears fencing shoes
I can attest that when they aren’t super tight when on the lane, they are some seriously comfortable shoes
choi is awesome...
Watching Choi fence is so funny in a good way
wtf does everybody have with Chois footwork?? It's freaking amazing!! Both guys are brilliant fencers, this bout gave me goosebumps; I stared at their movements in awe!! And concerning "pretty" - I've seen professional fencers whose footwork was a disaster. The footwork of these two guys is a bliss to watch! My opinion...
+Mirjana Zadravec i agree, its a master class. i hated footwork sessions marching up and down the piste but its one of the strongest tools in the box.
+Mirjana Zadravec look at 30:55 he performs an almost perfect balestra. foot work wise anyway.
it comes out of nowhere, pure fire.
+Mirjana Zadravec ikr the guy did an amazing balestra and his footwork is epic
Incredible Choi! I wish I could hear the commentators better- the background noise seems very loud.
what up with the audio though in all these olympic videos? the commentary is so low its not worth keeping in the mix have one or the other.
still, its one of the best bouts ive seen this. proper edge of the seat stuff....
So true, you do whatever you do to win.
Anyone else notice that the first touch Choi scored was just like the last touch he scored :)
Awesome!
Choi was stepped on!!! OMG. It must've been painful.
Are people really criticising Choi's footwork? It clearly works, and if that isn't the definition of good, what is? He was jerky, almost as if he was using his legs as a distraction, but he always seemed to have his movement under better control than Baldini, and had no trouble going anywhere.
I don't know what defines 'a brilliant footwork,' but I cannot see anything wrong with Choi. He's just creative and flexible. Being fast as you can is also important, however, that doesn't mean that you're good at fencing. You should be able to handle every moment without hesitation, and be flexible to attack your opponent efficiently. As I am saberiest, his footworks and the way he plays are kind of... interesting and resfreshing.
신선영 I didn't see anything bad about his footwork either, he seem to always have them under him more than Baldini.
sakamuras s Hey, if you're upset about the Europeans thinking high of themselves you mightn't want to put in for Asian supremacy so quickly, or you'll look like a hypocrite.
@@kenichi407 when
Baldo's Olympics were plagued by the wireless system! See also the team gold match, replay of Japan's 38th touch at about 1:15:00; the flick MIGHT have grazed onto the valid target before signalling a touch. Here, Choi's bad conductive undershirt cost Baldini at least one point. There were a few earlier on that looked questionable (should have been valid) as well. Anybody know the FIE's required specs for the conductive t-shirt? Notice that the bad one was an All-Star, the replacement an StM.
And we won with our hands ;)
Baldini was absolutely right to protest, he scored several absolutely clear hits on target which were recorded as off-target. His general whiny attitude is annoying though, similar to the Italian national football team :D
Well I wouldn't say its ugly or bad. Its actually tactical brilliance. In fencing, the key to winning is: 1.) Fast footwork. 2.) Strong blade control/technical use. 3.) A very analytical and tactical mind that allows for lightning fast reflexes and thinking of a new strategy. Choi is noted to be a fencer who is especially strong on 3 and also strong on 1. Baldini is strong on 1 and 2 but not 3 at all. Choi is able to create diverse strategies in a flash creating difficulty in countering.
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what insanely controlled and unconventional footwork from Choi! Baldini always likes to fence "beautifully", but Choi's just so effective at what he does!
the commentators were on baldini side
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How sweet it was!
25:34 This guy came to WIN
Looooool! At all costs 😂💯🇰🇷
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I didn't know Peewee Herman was an Olympic fencing official??? (15:36)
What an epic battle...
byungchul is awesome..he is the greatest fencer!
from Japanese
more passion than the gold match
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19:58 20:04
반칙이에요 반칙ㅠㅠ 최병철 선수 혼잣말ㅠㅠ 결국 판정에 받아들여지지 않았나보네요
탈의도 해야했고 이런저런 변수가 많았네요ㅠㅠ
여러 모로 정말 값진 승리!!!
바지찔렸어요 바지
진짜 멋있어요~
Why did CHOI get the last point? I thought CHOI step back and Bardini step forward so CHOI’s Attack is Counterattacks and Bardini’s Attack is right way, but ref says CHOI’s Attack. Please tell me
Same question here. It might because Baldini made a small stop while he steped forward, and Choi catched a perfect timing while Baldini stoped. But I re-watched the video for a few times and felt Baldini's foot work is Okay.
朱睿 Finally I might find the reason why CHOI won the last point! After CHOI’s Attack, Bardini stepped forward and tried to catch CHOI’s blade but he couldn’t, and it was judged “Derobement” so CHOI got a priority!!
thanks
Good point. I am also a foil fencer and my fencing style is a mix of Joppich, Choi, and Lei's fencing styles and movements and I win quite often.
@ 09AAnderson
Gentlemen's sports are somewhat non-existent in this generation.
You do what ever you have to to win when you are on the world stage and everyone is watching, for you friends, your family, your home club, your coach, your team and your country.
What does that white light mean?
hit on the "non target" area, in foil - not to the chest - arm, leg, head. If you had a right of way, even if your opponent hits you on target - no score and continuation from the place it happened.
5:14 lol
고맙다 Danke
what happened at to Choi at 4:15?
개멋있다
9:53
call at 14-12 to 14-13 is wrong (although hit is awarded correctly) - Baldini's parry-riposte misses, but then Choi's remise also misses, giving Baldini priority back. Anyone else agree?
dzfz2100 He didn't miss and I'm pretty sure Choi went for a beat too.
True, to some extent.
Does. Any one thing that the Korean fencer is sort of funny during the Match ?
agreed...and this is not a biased opinion although I am Korean, I fence as well.
존나 시합도중에 저러면 진짜 기운 빠지겠다... 런던때 펜싱은 왜 저 모양임...진짜 옷도 그렇고 시계도 그렇고 장비가 어이없는 수준이다
홍인들 또또 난리친다
People are complaining about them screaming at every hit but in football when they make a goal they run and scream for 15minutes so maybe stop complaining and accept it.
But hey, if you win with recklessness, keep doing it!
24:24
Damn I was rooting for Baldini the entire time. That shit got tight towards the end.
JessLe Berry Couldn't root for him after his whiny behaviour, making Choi undress and all. It did get tight at the end!
does anybody know what happens if they find malfunctions in the lame? does the opponent get the point or does the guy with the broken lame get a card? please help. thanks
WantorNeed3942 it's not the person with the broken lamé's fault as the lamé should have been tested by the support team so he wouldn't get a card and nothing happens to the opponent.
My friend is related to the korean
It's your friend, not you. Let him/her do the bragging.
Did I ask lol and I'm not bragging never said I was
i like baldini, i was biased from the beginning
The Italians are known for their passion of the sports they pursue. I none of the Italian fencers I have met have been arrogant. Passionate and proud of where they come from yes but not arrogant.
You should learn about the Italian culture before casting judgment.
Also, celebrating every touch is simple to explain. Ever watch Sabre? They often both scream to try to convice the ref that it was theirs. Every nation has fencers that do this, just some commit to the display more than others.
I feel bad for Baldini because he got so many unpredicted touches
It was essentially his fault if Choi catched him off-guard with unpredictable moves
펜알못이봐도 기계가 병신이었다는건 잘알겠다.. 선수들도 힘들었겠네
기계가 병신인게 아니고, 최병철 선수가 입고있는 메탈자켓이 문제인거에요. 메탈자켓이 금속 소재로 되어있어서 칼이 닿으면 전기가 통해서 불이 들어오는데, 녹이 슬거나 미세한 찢어짐으로 데드스팟이라고 칼 닿아도 전기가 안통해서 득점 성공 불이 안들어오는 부분이 생겨요. 사전에 테스트를 통해서 당연히 데드스팟 확인하게 되어있지만 테스트 뒤에 문제가 생긴건지 아무튼 최병철 선수가 입고나온 메탈자켓이 문제였네요.
*Baldini*
14:35 is that pervert cameraman recording Choi change? XD
the jab at 12:43 from baldini.... my god.... ive never seen anyone so disrespectful to their opponent...
You must not go to a lot of fencing tournaments if that is the most disrespectful thing you have seen...
@@leaf361 i do. And yes thats the most disrespect ive ever seen.
The ref should have been handing out red cards left and right. I can't recall ever seeing a bout where the fencers got away with so much mask removal, stalling, arguing.
No, it is just that they are being a little bit too reckless
I'm not sure how you call 15-14 "dominating" the bout. His footwork is a bit off the wall, but you don't get points for classic footwork, you get them for touches, so what does it matter. I'm curious, though, who the many are that say it's the best in the world.
My apologies if I was unclear...I was in a bit of a rage. I get quite passionate over this type of stuff. By dominating, I don't mean the score. I mean that he is controlling the bout. He is controlling the footwork and the handwork, and you can tell because his opponent is reacting to him 90% of the time. He is the actor, his opponent is the reactor. And exactly, it doesn't matter if it's pretty, what matters is that it achieves the goal: he's able to move in any direction at any given time from his guard, and the fact that he's "all over the place," as some people are saying, is a reflection of that. As for who the many are...well, for starters, the coaches at my club (experienced coaches who not only have very good national results, but have trained national champions and are very well-informed on the international scale), many fencers that I know (I myself am an active fencer), and many people (fencers, referees and coaches alike) that I've met at tournaments and national events as well. I'm not international quite yet, but I'll see what the international opinion is then, perhaps :D
I do.
Bunghole who
Why is the lefty on the right?
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Choi's fencing is ugly, but it isn't "bad". he one because he was able to control the tempo of the bout enough to where it was fenced at his style, allowing him to overcome Baldini's technical superiority. fencing isn't just about how flawless your technique is, its about being able to manipulate the bout and your opponent. and for all you snobs complaining about the yelling - turn the volume off and get over it! their terrific fencers, it doesn't matter all that much how much noise they make.
オリンピックなのに色ランプつかないジャケットがなんで検査で引っかからないのか訳が分からんな
*won, not one
Neither. Since really, you can't card someone just because during the bout their lame started to malfunction. If it was before the bout that the lame malfunctioned then the fencer would most likely get a red card therefore giving a point to the opponent. In this case, since the lame malfunctioned during the bout, all they have to do is change into a new lame. If they do not have another one of their own lame, then it becomes an issue of most likely forfeiting.
The touch is annulled.
되는데 중간중간에 걍 오버액션하는 것 같기도 갈아입고 나서는 되는 것 같은데
그게 다 작전이에욬ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 저 때 최병철 선수가 준결승 뛴 지 얼마 안 됐는데 바로 3.4위전 뛰어서 많이 힘들어서 일부러 액션 크게 하고 조금 휴식하려고 했던 작전이에요 실제로 옷 갈아입었을 때 체력이 많이 돌아왔대요 그리고 마지막 포인트를 기가 막히게 따 낸 거죠
He don’t trust
30:49 he runs to return his home in korean
Nowadays he wouldn't get the last point.
are you kidding?! baldini is one of the greatest fencers of this generation!
For me it was baldini attack
sakamuras s Baldini really jerked around with the rules the whole match, Choi was respectful and didn't kick up a fuss, even when they made him undress.
I feel sorry for the ref...
why can't Baldini just agree? He just wants to win.... Not a good sport..
Because his (legit) shots weren't being counted.
all the medalists win with hands. But can you win with ur mouths shut ?
a very twisted match i'm surprised these two even made it to the olympics
They fence with their mouths :)
That was REALLY close. I feel sorry for the guy who lost. I mean, 1st gets gold, 2nd gets silver, 3rd gold, 4th NOTHING.
Well, they get a pat on the back if it makes them feel any better
3rd *bronze*
Baldini is a talented fencer in a country that reveres the sport... even after losing this match, he continues to live the good life
At least he got world champion
thenewwoodsman Yeah, not winning an individual medal shouldn't stop him from enjoying the sport.
좀 웃기네 처음에 외국선수가 찔렀는데도 점수 안울린것도 많구만.. 이런거면 처음부터 다시해야지.. 이겨도이긴 기분도 아닐거같음
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You can see balding has more practiced footwork and is not everywhere all the time, he has elegance with a good on guard. Choi is more barbaric
Fencing is a sport not art