This Is Where E-Bikes Fail

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  • čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
  • What's it like riding an e-bike on a double black trail? Let's find out.
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    0:00 - Preview
    0:11 - Loam and skinnies
    2:51 - Ebike vs. double black trail
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Komentáře • 145

  • @danzarak_
    @danzarak_ Před rokem +121

    Hey... Just wanted to say, as much as I love your ASMR-like trail videos with no dialogue, I love this with the live narration! You've a really great relaxed style and lots of interesting things to say, and it helps that you're super passionate about it too. Would love more of these.

    • @IT-fr4wb
      @IT-fr4wb Před rokem

      enjoy yr clips Dave. as for skills folks, just keep at it + vary yr riding terrain. noticed some important subtle changes in my connection w bike last time I was out on a new location. t steepness was a bit beyond me at times but noticed my mind had elevated its awareness more around where t front wheel was going at all times… as if it’d figured out THIS was t important factor on this days outing. always stoked to b riding/ thinking about t next one!

  • @DaleStone
    @DaleStone Před rokem +3

    4:05 on any bike is absurd, well done on that behemoth!

  • @hardtailgang
    @hardtailgang Před rokem +13

    I feel the new parent sleep struggle. She's 15 months now and it's definitely improved a lot (Except for uh... last night... and earlier this week... a couple times). Always love watching your laps Dave!

  • @fmb-fishingmeansbusiness

    Great video. Yeah, having two kids I just bought a Ebike, I can ride from home to trails almost as fast as loading the mtbike in the truck, driving and unloading it. I ride way more because of it.

  • @jimmydollar
    @jimmydollar Před rokem +14

    Maybe a double black isn't for the e-bike (although you made it look easy), but for everything else they up the fun factor 1000%!

    • @_Jake.From.Statefarm_
      @_Jake.From.Statefarm_ Před rokem +1

      They double double blacks pretty well imo. but you need 240mm rotors and good brakes.

    • @bnorvs5929
      @bnorvs5929 Před rokem +1

      And they up the lazy factor 1000%

    • @ethanrinda4444
      @ethanrinda4444 Před rokem

      @@bnorvs5929 not really you can still get really tried after 2-3 laps

  • @55vdub
    @55vdub Před rokem +7

    at 67 years of age and 45 years of riding Squamish I felt i had earned my ebike. so I got a Sight VLT ....I worried that it would become a habit , but now I realize it is a dependency. hahah! I don't worry about my own opinions on e bikes, let alone the opinions of others and now ride happily in the middle of a pack of young and old riders and simply enjoy the day

  • @rutlandcitybikes9729
    @rutlandcitybikes9729 Před 4 měsíci

    I used to ride dirt bikes in New Jersey. Then moved to Vermont and got into Mtb'n 1998. Then got an Ebike 2019. The best cross between the dirt bike and acoustic bike!!

  • @hobmarg
    @hobmarg Před rokem

    Such a fun trail, rode it Friday and man it is running mint, all time fall time finally showed up. On the kid sleep front it does get better (doesn't help to hear it I know haha). 4 year old and 20 month old at home, starting to see light at the end of the tunnel with #2 and the 4 year old has been fine for years now.

  • @forestghost4400
    @forestghost4400 Před rokem +2

    cant stop watching you plowing the trails

  • @trailjockeytj6160
    @trailjockeytj6160 Před rokem +6

    I do like the narration while riding. I’ve seen it mentioned by another subscriber, obviously your little snickers and laughs are great! “Come on Dave” also let me know that you’re busting your ass! But like I say the calm narration is really a cool thing especially when you’re hitting that double black feature! I did ask on another video when you were on your Norco, rear wheel lifts, are they tougher, or are you just leaning into it a little more?

    • @ddangerousddave
      @ddangerousddave  Před rokem +2

      Definitely tougher to pivot. You need to be much more deliberate compared to a lighter bike. It's interesting though because it makes me find alternate lines and techniques to compensate.

  • @PL-fh8cz
    @PL-fh8cz Před rokem +5

    Interesting thoughts on riding tech trails on an eMTB. I have been riding trails like these for many years on my acoustic bike and I ordered an eMTB as my ride after surgery. I figured it's better than no riding at all, and the advantages and disadvantages are pretty easy to figure out conceptually. I appreciate the "real world" commentary.

  • @Coastal-rsidedown
    @Coastal-rsidedown Před rokem +2

    Damn - pretty happy with that one. No doubt. I would have been walking 4 or 5 times already by that point.
    Also new with e-bike, I like the tech climbing (tech lite compared to this), but still don't have the confidence over my regular mtb on the descents.
    Crazy good riding.

  • @junjunmulleda5467
    @junjunmulleda5467 Před rokem +3

    Hey Dave! So good to run into on the trails today! Hope my buddy Dave and I didn’t ruin you shoot with our rc crawl trucks on the trail. Keep up the all the great content.

    • @ddangerousddave
      @ddangerousddave  Před rokem +2

      Nice meeting you both! We'll have to get out for a 1/24 crawl some time.

    • @junjunmulleda5467
      @junjunmulleda5467 Před rokem +1

      @@ddangerousddave for sure! Hit me up when you have time.

  • @jasonwolfe9934
    @jasonwolfe9934 Před rokem +1

    We have the same bikes. Meta SX and meta SX ebike. I ride the ebike once a week and the acoustic version twice a week. Do the same trail (second trail) as in this video quite regularly. Some things are actually easier on the ebike. But certainly not as playful. But to be able to do a big lap in just over an hour is crazy. Up versus down ratio is about 1/1. 30 mins up give me 30 down.

  • @onerider808
    @onerider808 Před rokem +3

    Nice riding. I’ve got about 700 miles on my 52lb, 250W mid-drive hardtail (mostly on green and blue trails in CO). I’ve found the bike seems lighter the more I ride it. I leave it at 0 assist on downhills and relatively flat places. But I have also noted it is a bit harder to change lines (especially on climbs). Seems like once Im locked in a line, I’d better just ride it out.

    • @richardburns5925
      @richardburns5925 Před rokem

      It will get lighter as well! As the battery with a three to five year lifespan wears out, them price a new battery up! Where as My Scott Scale 710 hardtail purchased in 2018 next year is five years old, still as good as new!

  • @fivetool
    @fivetool Před rokem +6

    Great content, Dave. Thanks for the comparison.

  • @CptnStavros
    @CptnStavros Před rokem +6

    Dave. Let's not make "acoustic bike" a thing please 😂

  • @exodus1383
    @exodus1383 Před rokem +1

    "rule #1 of solo rides, dont to stupid things"
    1 minute later: jumps off a giant boulder

  • @austiwollongongwolf
    @austiwollongongwolf Před rokem

    Most people in the real world don’t ride double black on analogue or ebikes. Love my ebikes and regular ride black trails. But then again I just rode in Andorra on a Commencal SX and loved it. So I just bought a new Commencal Clash.
    This will be strictly for chair lifts and shuttles.
    I’m in it for going down, not riding up.

  • @koho
    @koho Před rokem +3

    Try a 40 lb ebike, eg Turbo Levo SL. They will work fine on these trails ...

  • @norcalchrismeister
    @norcalchrismeister Před rokem +3

    I also only ride my e-mtb about once a month cause I prefer riding my Santa Cruz Tallboy. It climbs great and way more fun on the descents.

  • @BushmanCanuck
    @BushmanCanuck Před rokem

    Love my Meta Power!
    Good vid man 👍

  • @Erlont
    @Erlont Před rokem

    Man...I loved the video..Loved the trail...could you pls Share the configs you have on the go pro?.. .I Could never get a video quality like yours. I am so disapointed with my video quality that I am almost quiting filming. PLS save me...
    Again AWESOME videos. Great info about the E-bikes. I could Test drive the lumen last week... my video quality sucks so did not move on with the channel yet.

  • @cutlaps
    @cutlaps Před rokem

    What a trail. I would be pushing my bike down half of that haha. Nice work.

  • @99MrJ99
    @99MrJ99 Před 9 měsíci

    since switching to e-bikes I've found for dh double black etc it just takes getting used to the weight of it. You learn the sweet spot and handling characteristics of the heavier weight. We are just so used to using light bikes that it feels awkward at first. I grew up riding 45-50 pound dh bikes though so that may also be a factor. I still definitely prefer a regular bike for skinnies as it is just easier to maneuver. I'm hoping over time I get use to skinnies on it as well.

  • @harzcore_tv
    @harzcore_tv Před rokem

    Awesome riding Dave ⚡️⚡️⚡️

  • @jonnysnakes5417
    @jonnysnakes5417 Před rokem

    The only time i start wishing i was on my normal bike compared to the eeb is when i come across a big drop i haven't done before, prefer to try it out on something i can move easier just incase i nose dive cos trying to pull up the front on the eeb when you are to nose heavy is pretty hard lol

  • @Geordo1960
    @Geordo1960 Před rokem +1

    I easily see what you are saying as I also own both types of mountain bikes. That is why I would really love to try an Orbea light weight ebike.

    • @jayvkman
      @jayvkman Před rokem

      I have an Orbea Rise 40lbs, it's very nimble for an ebike.

  • @ToddNZMTB
    @ToddNZMTB Před rokem +7

    Question: what's your top tip for trackstands? I've just started practicing in the garage and have a theory about having my _outside foot forward_ seems to be a good theory, any tips?

    • @ToddNZMTB
      @ToddNZMTB Před rokem

      Also pedaling backwards faster seems to help. I'm not on a flash bike at all just an old 10 speed hardtail with about 20 engagement points on the hub ha ha

    • @raffriff42
      @raffriff42 Před rokem +1

      This is an old video, but nobody has explained it better.
      (Ryan Leech)
      czcams.com/video/u4ptZ5Ot1TE/video.html

    • @richardpowell1425
      @richardpowell1425 Před rokem +6

      Make sure your foot can't contact the front tire. Look at the horizon and keep your head level - was the best tip I received.

  • @Burner-Adventure-Chronicles

    Ha! I refer to my regular mtn bike as my analog bike :) That was a sweet ride

  • @allanshpeley4284
    @allanshpeley4284 Před rokem

    "Acoustic bike" lol. I'm stealing that.

  • @berengerchristy6256
    @berengerchristy6256 Před rokem

    The clarity of this video is absolutely staggering. How's your processor?

  • @simonmatlok8945
    @simonmatlok8945 Před rokem

    Nice video, I like how you are talking with us

  • @ZoidPickle
    @ZoidPickle Před rokem

    30 years ago, mountain bikes
    Were made from exotic materials.
    Then you spent the next few months,
    Getting the right gearset, drivetrain,
    To give the bike as near perfect weight
    Balance as possible. Even the bottom bracket,
    and 9 speed cassette made quite a difference.
    These days, they add weight lol. My GT Zaskar
    Floats in the local river.

  • @worldstallestmidget
    @worldstallestmidget Před rokem

    Nyy it at throwing this out there. So what is the difference in a e bike and my cove peeler that weighed in just under 50lbs? People use to ride heavy bikes on trails before things got light weight oriented.

  • @TheZohan907
    @TheZohan907 Před rokem

    Oh wow this is the first time I’ve heard your voice, that’s a cool difference from the other videos I’ve seen from you

  • @nomadmusk
    @nomadmusk Před rokem

    God, where is this trail??? Its so sick!

  • @whitetiger7084
    @whitetiger7084 Před rokem +1

    is it normally that dry at that time of year? I know it had rained fairly recently by the way all the plants were so green, but it wasn't like January where there were much more pools of water and such

    • @BushmanCanuck
      @BushmanCanuck Před rokem

      Dryer than most winters. We just had a week of sun on the West coast. It's perfect dirt...Nov 19 😎

    • @staceygarrison4979
      @staceygarrison4979 Před rokem +1

      West coast was weird this year. We basically had summer and dry trails until mid october and then barely any fall at all, right into winter.

  • @mtbville
    @mtbville Před rokem

    Cool video Dave 🤩🤘🔥

  • @hunterdean11
    @hunterdean11 Před rokem

    Demoed a few nice ebikes I was impressed by the power but the weight bummed me out I couldn’t jib around and bunny hop like I would normally would. You just had to go big every time

  • @nicks2716
    @nicks2716 Před rokem +14

    Not sure where the e-bike “failed”, but it doesn’t matter ‘cause this was a great video. Your narrated videos are fantastic.

  • @christopherrose4255
    @christopherrose4255 Před rokem +1

    Yo, what’s the rules for ebikes where you ride in BC? Where I ride in the ADKs ebikes are not allowed. Although I don’t ride one, I think it’s kinda silly they are not allowed.

  • @druchii89
    @druchii89 Před rokem +2

    Seeing people try trials maneouvers on an e-bike is pretty fun to be honest. Nice video :)

  • @sw1246
    @sw1246 Před rokem +1

    Hey Dave I was wondering what mudguard you have on your fork. if you could let me know that would be great.

    • @ddangerousddave
      @ddangerousddave  Před rokem

      Midhugger Evo 🤘

    • @sw1246
      @sw1246 Před rokem

      @@ddangerousddave thanks, im thinking about getting a yt tues and i think that mudguard would look pretty sick.

  • @damiankolar9675
    @damiankolar9675 Před rokem +3

    Super video

  • @_Jake.From.Statefarm_

    They make light emtbs though that are the same weight as an enduro bike.

  • @Strider362
    @Strider362 Před rokem

    watching this really makes me miss the shore

  • @levver8794
    @levver8794 Před rokem +1

    how are this cranks called? And where did you get them?

  • @icknjo
    @icknjo Před rokem

    Seymour’s rocks rock like u rock 😂🎉

  • @OGMTB
    @OGMTB Před rokem +1

    So where did it fail? It seemed mighty capable.

  • @7threign780
    @7threign780 Před rokem

    Fun ride

  • @islandaerial3414
    @islandaerial3414 Před rokem

    I don't do laps on my eMTB but rather, circuits that turn out to be 25-35 km in length
    Sounds like you got a squeaky bearing already

  • @RCCrawlerz209
    @RCCrawlerz209 Před rokem

    Another thing I noticed, is that you're camera here, performs better here, where in the past, your videos looked a bit blurred while riding....which...now, looks leaps & bounds better, here, imo.

  • @BermUnit
    @BermUnit Před rokem

    You should try magnetic pedals.

  • @brendan1
    @brendan1 Před rokem

    My Orbea Rise weighs 41 lbs. Try a light-weight e-bike and see how that feels.

  • @normcook9335
    @normcook9335 Před rokem

    That hop sideways at 2:01 looked sketchy. I concur it's hard to navigate a heavy machine -much more tiring.

  • @humzilla707
    @humzilla707 Před rokem

    I love the e bike weight.

  • @mustclime5311
    @mustclime5311 Před rokem

    this vid keeps locking up on my tv

  • @hillwalker8741
    @hillwalker8741 Před rokem

    yeah - that is way too much effort and discomfort than I want - and it's all downhill - I'd prefer to chill on a hiking trail with equal uphill - only pedaling hard when I need the workout

  • @tacticooldennis
    @tacticooldennis Před rokem

    It's easier to transition from a dirt bike to an e-bike than from an MTB to a e-bike.

  • @nostr8ghtlinzs596
    @nostr8ghtlinzs596 Před rokem

    "nice when you are a parent ......" babies are great, the world needs more babies!

  • @sahandsesoot
    @sahandsesoot Před rokem

    Awesome riding ! What trail is this?

    • @bazongers4304
      @bazongers4304 Před rokem +1

      second trail is cambodia on seymour, it's to the right of the first big left turn on cabin trail, best of luck finding it

    • @nickwilson4584
      @nickwilson4584 Před rokem

      @@bazongers4304 Soon to be sanctioned and maintained by NSMBA I hear - it'll be on Trailforks at some stage in the future! I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing yet.

  • @jmo2752
    @jmo2752 Před rokem

    No need for a click-bait title... there is no fail here, only some great riding.

  • @Twentykixx
    @Twentykixx Před rokem

    I love my Bullit, it’s fantastic for all day epic PNW days @48lbs. The only recommendation I can give to the 27.5 or MX folks is to run shorter crank arms. I went from 165-160-155, and found 155 to be the sweet spot. I never thought 10mm would matter that much, but it really does. Pedal strikes are gone. I’m also in a better position while climbing… not sure if this’ll help ya, but worked for me. Be safe out there. 🤘🏼

  • @coryvanasse8085
    @coryvanasse8085 Před rokem

    Can you add locations to your video info?

  • @juliandlamb
    @juliandlamb Před rokem

    I reckon if having a motor makes it an e-bike then our standard rides are a Me-bike 😊

  • @PrimetimeCasual
    @PrimetimeCasual Před rokem +1

    That's where the SL e-bikes come in - sub-20kg easily. ;)

  • @inairstudios
    @inairstudios Před 10 měsíci

    wanna make shure... you can do lots of a.... trails... whoa..

  • @calvinwilkins6233
    @calvinwilkins6233 Před rokem

    I went mountain biking for the first time a few weeks ago with a group of beginners. I broke my tailbone on a green trail and now watching your videos is like watching a Saw movie. They used to be relaxing so I'm hoping they can get me to be less absolutely terrified to do it again.

    • @YFZriderdude15
      @YFZriderdude15 Před rokem

      This guy is master level. I've been riding all my life and I can't even do what he does. If you want to get better while you're off the bike, don't watch his videos, watch riding tutorials for basic maneuvers... like corner technique, pumping, bunny-hopping, gear selection to maintain momentum, etc. etc. But most of all, just ride your bike when you're able.

  • @Max-js1mx
    @Max-js1mx Před rokem +2

    I love my ebike since I got it. Definitely different uses for us haha. I use mine in my city a lot and it's great

  • @wlew3499
    @wlew3499 Před rokem +1

    Ebikes built for the Uphill! Struggle on the downhill!!

  • @loteq101
    @loteq101 Před rokem +4

    I have a norco sight vlt. The thing I like most is that I can just go faster up the mtn. I swear I actually work harder on the e-bike as I’m taking less breaks and more excited to keep my speed up. Majority of MTB will be e-bikes in 5-10 years. It’s just better.

  • @onecutmedia
    @onecutmedia Před rokem +1

    I find if I switch back and forth with the bikes I get freaked on gnarly terrain when I go back to the E, so now I just ride the E, but you know, I'm 61 ;)

  • @robrider838
    @robrider838 Před rokem +1

    ebikes are the best invention ever.

  • @leszekwnuk5020
    @leszekwnuk5020 Před rokem

    looks like you were sending it just fine on the ebike....

  • @tomassanesson902
    @tomassanesson902 Před rokem

    Awesome

  • @childhood.dreams
    @childhood.dreams Před rokem

    Try not to do stupid things... OK MORE SKINNIES 🤣

  • @richardpowell1425
    @richardpowell1425 Před rokem

    Remember the greater cost of crashing hard and destroying your bike. Another reason not to go hard on an e-Bike.

  • @nenamon
    @nenamon Před rokem +1

    I don't do this myself but a genuine question I always had is, doesn't this crush your balls?

  • @nunyobizkneez
    @nunyobizkneez Před rokem

    the only place where this e-bike fails is, the rider who only gets out on it 1x/month.....

  • @kyleslater5245
    @kyleslater5245 Před rokem +1

    But we used to ride 60lb bikes back in the day. I dunno. I still don’t have a “light” bike though. Most of my bikes are in the 37-40 range.

  • @dice_v2876
    @dice_v2876 Před rokem +1

    🎉

  • @Sleeman243
    @Sleeman243 Před rokem +1

    Nice riding. This video is more of a showcase of the capabilities of an EMTB, than any sort of "fail".

  • @equi
    @equi Před měsícem

    People ride technical trails on dirtbikes.. they are 200lbs.. i think its funny when people act like 50lbs is such a handicap.

  • @bjoernson8055
    @bjoernson8055 Před rokem

    Pleased keep your Style of making Videos. Just the Bike, the trail and sometimes the Rider. 10-15 Minutes Holiday.

  • @jakubhoffmann3240
    @jakubhoffmann3240 Před rokem

    E bikes are commuter bikes. They’re great for going to work

  • @MsHigheagle
    @MsHigheagle Před rokem

    Just getting out when your drained from work and the kids have stolen your sleep for years is the best, tranquility means more at that point

  • @slowridemtb4712
    @slowridemtb4712 Před rokem +1

    The video shows that the eMTB holds the trail better, less bouncing around. I can't actually see where an 'acoustic' MTB or an eMTB "fail" on the trail, unless the rider wrecks either.

  • @TheAntoine191
    @TheAntoine191 Před rokem

    What is that bait title XD i fell in the trap. So of course ebike are amazing and ride much like regular bike. But to me it's not only about being tired when i take my ebike. Anyway i avoid riding technical stuff when i'm too tired, alone especially, recipe for disaster. My ebike is derestricted and with two batteries it allows me to skip the car, which is good for my fitness and the environment. Sure it means i have some road riding to do but i can live with it. Also much more loop in the time i have for riding.

  • @rjthomasindyusa
    @rjthomasindyusa Před rokem

    Why would you ride an ebike downhill? Seems like the wrong tool for the job.

  • @timking2822
    @timking2822 Před rokem

    Not everyone's style of riding, eh?

  • @anthonymorris5084
    @anthonymorris5084 Před rokem

    I know many will disagree, but that trail looks a lot less fun, and just plain punishing.

  • @desperatepoutinepinocchio1959

    I do not justify riding a bike 40% heavier than a standard bike for climbs or down hill , I like so many others ride to stay fit . If you are lazy and tired sell your bike . I am 62 and never to tired for a ride. As for am e-bike if I was rich or had a sponsor maybe I would have one but highly doubtful. Like you basically stated they are for lazy people.

  • @thim8009
    @thim8009 Před rokem +1

    I live 6 hours away from any decent riding. I own a tree service and in relatively good shape. I work 50 to 70 hours a week, so once a month, I take off 3 or 4 days and go ride. Ebikes are a game changer for me. I'm not in real good riding shape, so with my levo I can get in 3 times more downhill runs in.

  • @kev7co
    @kev7co Před rokem

    It’s just you

  • @j3f423
    @j3f423 Před rokem +9

    The e bike fails no where ❤

  • @mrpmclayton
    @mrpmclayton Před rokem +2

    20 years ago and 'shore' or DH bikes were all in the 50lb range and people seemed to be able to ride these trails ok without a 'fail'. Bike tech has moved on for sure, but an e-bike doesn't 'fail' because it's heavier than a modern trail bike - sorry. Perhaps people are 'spoilt' these days with 180 travel trail bikes that weigh under 30lbs

    • @johnnyvivic8730
      @johnnyvivic8730 Před rokem

      I think the title was just clickbait because there was never a point in the video where he failed on it. In fact he didn't mess up once.

  • @ZillaYT
    @ZillaYT Před rokem

    Have you tried low/mid powered eBikes?

  • @easystyle4747
    @easystyle4747 Před rokem

    This really a secret trail? Can we at least get the mountain?

    • @hazza788
      @hazza788 Před rokem

      @@HeyBaumeister nah its fromme

    • @hazza788
      @hazza788 Před rokem

      @@HeyBaumeister Stanley park

    • @siggma220
      @siggma220 Před rokem

      They're just trying to mess with you. It's an unsanctioned trail off Burke called Laos

  • @stevewalters8809
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