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  • James Krauseneck was convicted of one of the oldest, coldest cases in America - known as the Brighton Ax Murder. Authorities say he killed his wife with an ax while she slept. Months after the 71-year-old was sentenced to prison, he died of cancer. His family and legal team are appealing the verdict, hoping to clear his name. "48 Hours" correspondent Erin Moriarty reports. (This episode aired on Feb. 25, 2023.) Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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  • @48hours
    @48hours  Před 9 měsíci +69

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    • @lynnewilson5923
      @lynnewilson5923 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Thank you for that! Just knowing that lift the burden. I will let you know

    • @monicacsm9920
      @monicacsm9920 Před 9 měsíci +2

      The axe that was outside ..if it was for the k family who took it outside?

    • @mikisek703
      @mikisek703 Před 9 měsíci

      @@lynnewilson5923😅😅 im oki

    • @Lucille-pw9hi
      @Lucille-pw9hi Před 9 měsíci +1

      No

    • @anitabuitendag3860
      @anitabuitendag3860 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@lynnewilson5923😊😊😊

  • @4hrtz26
    @4hrtz26 Před 9 měsíci +2543

    “It’s only scary if you did it” absolutely disagree! It’s scary if you’re wrongly accused too! These cops are too much 🙄

    • @mmcintosh78
      @mmcintosh78 Před 9 měsíci +174

      I’ve watched a thousand of these and the opinion of investigators jump all over the map. No matter what or how someone responds or acts they find a way to justify guilt. Never speak to investigators. Get a lawyer. Even then they will say that’s a sign of guilt. No it’s not. It’s your constitutional right. I say all that to say this. I want everyone who is guilty to be convicted and punished.

    • @imaniquetzales8952
      @imaniquetzales8952 Před 9 měsíci +4

      😮

    • @imaniquetzales8952
      @imaniquetzales8952 Před 9 měsíci +4

      8:00

    • @Usqueadmortem
      @Usqueadmortem Před 9 měsíci

      Came here to say this, typical boys in blue being incompetent to get a pay raise and play with others freedom.

    • @abbeyball6890
      @abbeyball6890 Před 9 měsíci +22

      Yep, my thoughts exactly 💯

  • @sharimeline3077
    @sharimeline3077 Před 9 měsíci +550

    Those two detectives, smiling and chuckling through this whole thing, like it's funny? They give me the creeps.

    • @ponygirlusa
      @ponygirlusa Před 8 měsíci +39

      Exactly. It makes you wonder how many innocent people were convicted over the years, because of these two masterminds.

    • @nomesobrenome7905
      @nomesobrenome7905 Před 8 měsíci +29

      It's a game to those tools. They are dangerous

    • @patr70
      @patr70 Před 6 měsíci +18

      They seem like the feed off of other people's misery. They seem very twisted and very angry.

    • @perrieargent9997
      @perrieargent9997 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Too many dire cops 👮‍♂ out there. Oh, it's only another woman . . . hahaha!

    • @sharimeline3077
      @sharimeline3077 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@perrieargent9997 wtf does that mean? Be specific.

  • @AmyLynnRiley
    @AmyLynnRiley Před 4 měsíci +449

    When the interviewer asked the DA if she would have chose Dr. Baden if he had agreed with the other medical examiners and she said, "Well, no" and laughed, that told me all I needed to know about her and those detectives! They were willing to put an innocent man away just to close a case. This angered me. They had no proof that this man did anything.

    • @koisneurotypical
      @koisneurotypical Před 3 měsíci +5

      It’s lawyer humor. Prosecutorial strategy. Its funny to lawyers. Are we all without conscience? Maybe… but defense lawyers defend folks who they know are guilty, too. It goes both wats bc thats our justice system. Everyone is entitled to representation. I just wouldn’t jump the gun on her character. None of us know her personally. No DA would put an expert on the stand who disagrees with them, although the Defense could have.

    • @That1EeveeFan2
      @That1EeveeFan2 Před 3 měsíci +12

      I agree. Sadly, many innocent people are sent to prison. But, they closed the case. 😢

    • @IdahoRanchGirl
      @IdahoRanchGirl Před 2 měsíci +10

      I think he's innocent

    • @afsoon542
      @afsoon542 Před 2 měsíci +4

      I think the 3 year old daughter did it…

    • @Annie497
      @Annie497 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Yes! I wasn't sure who she was, but her attitude was very unprofessional! There is nothing remotely funny about how she managed to get him convicted. It only counts when evidence proves they have convicted the RIGHT person, not just A person.

  • @smdursoii
    @smdursoii Před 2 měsíci +84

    This is the kind of case that makes me continue to question the justice system.

    • @AspireGMD
      @AspireGMD Před měsícem +1

      Inconsistent as hell, sometimes it's wonderful, sometimes it's atrocious. But unfortunately it's this way in every country.

  • @cyndieevans5628
    @cyndieevans5628 Před 9 měsíci +2318

    I never understand why people seem to think not answering questions and hiring a lawyer point to guilt. Once you realize that law enforcement is focused on you as a suspect you'd be stupid to do anything else.

    • @purawesomeness78
      @purawesomeness78 Před 9 měsíci +151

      I would never speak to law enforcement without a attorney.

    • @MaryTheresa1986
      @MaryTheresa1986 Před 9 měsíci +99

      Exactly. I wouldn't even say hello to the police without an attorney present.

    • @davidc3839
      @davidc3839 Před 9 měsíci +64

      Well said - I agree with all that you have said. This was a gross miscarriage of justice. With police officers and a prosecution who lied to construct a case against an innocent man.

    • @marthaarce6641
      @marthaarce6641 Před 9 měsíci +25

      Agreed

    • @kieranosullivan4966
      @kieranosullivan4966 Před 9 měsíci +46

      Cops and prosecutors tell their family members if ever there are arrested talk to a lawyer and don't talk to the police.

  • @MaryTheresa1986
    @MaryTheresa1986 Před 9 měsíci +1958

    There's not enough evidence to prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Being someone's spouse doesn't automatically make you a killer.

    • @elizabethsolorio9837
      @elizabethsolorio9837 Před 9 měsíci +57

      But it does make them suspicious. Most murders are done by someone close to the victim

    • @leeanucha
      @leeanucha Před 9 měsíci +31

      i agreed there’s no proof but jury decided he is guilty anyway omg

    • @MaryTheresa1986
      @MaryTheresa1986 Před 9 měsíci +81

      @@elizabethsolorio9837 True, but a victim's husband shouldn't go to prison solely based on statistics, and that's a lazy way of handling investigations.
      "Oh, you're the victim's husband/wife/significant other? Off to prison with you! Case closed!"

    • @bullast2046
      @bullast2046 Před 9 měsíci +32

      @@elizabethsolorio9837true.. but there’s usually some history of violence.. strange to me the lady said they wouldn’t have hired the Dr had he agreed with the ME

    • @jillianpw9789
      @jillianpw9789 Před 9 měsíci +25

      @@bullast2046
      Thank you! Very strange comment coming from her! I think it was a bunch of new prosecutors looking to open a cold case, and because no one did their job right, they zeroed in on the only person they could! I hope he gets a new trial

  • @georgiajasper3893
    @georgiajasper3893 Před 8 měsíci +144

    Jurors convicted him because they believed the prosecutor when he said the crime scene was staged?? One juror even said, who else could have done it??
    How in the world do they sleep at night for convicting this man. People are soooo easily influenced and lead like sheep and followers. I’m so blown away at the action of these jurors based on nothing but “words”

    • @BrynnaLayne
      @BrynnaLayne Před 2 měsíci +13

      I don't get how not a single person could hold out. I don't care if I hang a jury, I refuse to send someone to prison if it wasn't proven!

    • @Annie497
      @Annie497 Před 2 měsíci +10

      A jury is not supposed to guess. Unless they have proof beyond all reasonable doubt, they should have acquitted him. No evidence I can see that makes me think he was the killer.

    • @dan-bz7dz
      @dan-bz7dz Před měsícem +4

      What a bunch of clown jurors

    • @rainaeasley7863
      @rainaeasley7863 Před 6 dny

      Blame the jurors you can see how people react when they’re scared. Of course they’ll put someone in prison. Did you see everybody running around in mass when we had a break out of the flu?

  • @scoremat
    @scoremat Před 3 měsíci +90

    That Rochester prosecutor is a disgusting piece of work - she is a shining example of everything that is wrong with our justice system. She blatantly and bold-faced admitted that she only hired her "expert witness" because he agreed with her agenda - not because his take on the evidence was more thorough then the previous experts analysis, which didn't happen to agree with what this monster DA wanted. Just absolutely gross, she should be arrested yet here she is bragging about her deeds on camera.

    • @sadmachines6991
      @sadmachines6991 Před 2 měsíci +5

      She also has a DEXTER DOLL on her bookshelf. That tells you everything you need to know about her character.

    • @devilquill
      @devilquill Před měsícem +6

      She is in the news again displaying a toxic personality.

    • @mirelamirosavljevic6382
      @mirelamirosavljevic6382 Před měsícem +2

      For real she is disquasting person.

    • @rainaeasley7863
      @rainaeasley7863 Před 6 dny

      The jury put him away not the system

    • @MrSavagebeast50
      @MrSavagebeast50 Před 3 dny

      He should get a retrial and show them that evidence of this disgusting Prosecution and DA trying to overthrow other medical timelines to fit their narrative and probably send a innocent person to jail. Just to close a case justice is blind and dumb

  • @AtHomeWithZaneR
    @AtHomeWithZaneR Před 9 měsíci +1104

    This is probably the 1st time I’ve ever said, they’ve convicted the wrong person. There’s absolutely not enough evidence to say beyond a reasonable doubt he committed this crime, in fact there’s very little evidence to support the notion that he did.

    • @Youtubing5999
      @Youtubing5999 Před 9 měsíci +73

      I’m honestly shocked that the jury came back guilty that quickly. I think the police work in this case was trash from the start

    • @sandrabentley8111
      @sandrabentley8111 Před 9 měsíci +22

      True there's little evidence but on circumstances alone, he is the probable murderer. No one else could have done it!

    • @ShidaPenns
      @ShidaPenns Před 9 měsíci +31

      It's not the first innocent person deemed guilty by a jury that I've seen, that's for sure. Juries just aren't taught to hold the prosecution to the extremely high standards they're meant to be held to.

    • @g3ner4lm4ss1v3
      @g3ner4lm4ss1v3 Před 9 měsíci +1

      lol?

    • @houseadams4841
      @houseadams4841 Před 8 měsíci +20

      @sandra…
      You don’t put people in prison for life for that….
      Who most likely did it..? Really?

  • @BlessedChild7
    @BlessedChild7 Před 8 měsíci +302

    This is one case where guilt wasn't proven beyond all reasonable doubt. The justice system is a disgrace.

    • @jamesball8519
      @jamesball8519 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I disagree

    • @PowerFromAbove
      @PowerFromAbove Před měsícem +1

      I agree.

    • @jennifers8843
      @jennifers8843 Před měsícem +3

      Saying it’s a staged robbery is literally just cops opinion. The boat shoe thing is also absurd

    • @ND_1997
      @ND_1997 Před 21 dnem +1

      Agreed. This jury's verdict is absurd. This is one case where I truly believe the person is wrongly convicted.

  • @Amanda---
    @Amanda--- Před 7 měsíci +337

    NEVER SPEAK TO LAW ENFORCEMENT WITHOUT A LAWYER.

    • @ritamengucci1932
      @ritamengucci1932 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @Amanda never speak to law enforcement even with your attorney present unless you can personally record the interview. If they won't allow you to do so, don't speak to them at all!

    • @marshlightening
      @marshlightening Před 2 měsíci +6

      Especially when you are guilty.

    • @TheBandit7613
      @TheBandit7613 Před 2 měsíci

      @@marshlightening No, especially if you are innocent. The Innocence Project has released over 3500 people wrongly imprisoned, tens of thousands to go...

    • @keishajones5899
      @keishajones5899 Před měsícem

      @@ritamengucci1932SOLID ADVICE 💯

    • @biggiebaby3541
      @biggiebaby3541 Před 23 dny

      "Law enforcement "....

  • @cdn1588
    @cdn1588 Před 6 měsíci +128

    I got released from a jury because I said I couldn't convict the defendent on the basis of one person's witness statement from 30 years ago and no evidence. The witness was the cop that arrived on the scene and he hadn't seen anything that had happened yet the prosecution used him as a witness. It's scary to think how easy it is to incarcerate someone even without witnesses and evidence. I can't convict someone based on feelings. "I feel like he did do it" should never be allowed as a verdict.

    • @frankgroff2604
      @frankgroff2604 Před 2 měsíci +9

      wow...very disturbing. i also wouldn't lend any more credibility to a cop's testimony than an ordinary citizen and, in some cases, would be more skeptical due to them having tunnel vision in far too many cases

    • @lisawentworth6831
      @lisawentworth6831 Před měsícem +2

      thanks for your integrity...

  • @ericaalvarado9959
    @ericaalvarado9959 Před 9 měsíci +688

    I am a Police Officer and can safely say, They have NO proof what so ever that he committed this crime.....

    • @maguffintop2596
      @maguffintop2596 Před 9 měsíci +28

      Then you probably noticed the interviewers did a lousy job in this segment. Where were character witnesses? why did the father in law demonstrate malice against son in law. Why did he up and leave days after death? Did he move or just run? He clearly made a lot of money - did his lifestyle add up? They showed a shoe print, claimed no other dna found. What kind of woman was the wife? did she have enemies? Good lord they left out 99%,

    • @HobbyOrganist
      @HobbyOrganist Před 9 měsíci +26

      But the jury was there and saw and heard everything over that whole trial and testimony, evidence and everything else, you and the rest of us only saw tiny sniplets of what 48 Hours wanted us to see and hear in a 40 minute film, the jury DECIDED based on everything, including all the evidence and testimony we didn't see or hear in this 40 minute film, the jury got it right.

    • @kensmith2796
      @kensmith2796 Před 9 měsíci +25

      Police officers are not attorneys. I'll pass on your "expert" opinion on the law and the facts of this case. Thanks.

    • @kensmith2796
      @kensmith2796 Před 9 měsíci +17

      @@HobbyOrganist Oh, but she's a police officer that watched a 40 minute TV show on the case. She can "safely say they have no proof". Who are you to question such knowledge & expertise? LOL

    • @dozzer009
      @dozzer009 Před 9 měsíci +15

      @@kensmith2796
      Problem is, all the “facts” of this case were manufactured by the prosecution. Zero proof he did it.

  • @TheKale359
    @TheKale359 Před 9 měsíci +589

    There is not enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. The only evidence they have is literally that he is her husband which is ridiculous.

    • @touchofdumb
      @touchofdumb Před 9 měsíci +25

      We all watched a little television show. Not the trial. The jury was at the trial unlike us.

    • @jillianpw9789
      @jillianpw9789 Před 9 měsíci +7

      @@touchofdumb
      Remember before the verdict, most of the jury were either going to say not guilty, or couldn’t decide. I believe it said only 3 said guilty to begin with. If they were having trouble, this obviously meant there was a lot of circumstantial

    • @ilovebrandnewcarpets
      @ilovebrandnewcarpets Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@touchofdumbokay so you’re just making the same comment over and over, got it.

    • @touchofdumb
      @touchofdumb Před 9 měsíci +8

      @@ilovebrandnewcarpets Too different people who are saying the same thing over and over. I’m free to do that buddy.

    • @touchofdumb
      @touchofdumb Před 9 měsíci +10

      @@jillianpw9789 This case appears to be mostly circumstantial, if not all. But many cases are totally circumstantial and go to trial and are adjudicated.
      And most juries, start out divided, and then work together to come to a common verdict. That’s why sometimes they’re in there for days. If they all agreed right away, all verdicts would be instantaneous.
      Most cases don’t have a smoking gun.

  • @mariaorourke5236
    @mariaorourke5236 Před 6 měsíci +48

    I can't get the image of that poor little three and a half year old home alone all day with her mummy's dead body. That's an unspeakable evil.

  • @reesepiece331
    @reesepiece331 Před 26 dny +48

    Remember kids! If you're guilty, you need a lawyer. If you're innocent, you REALLY need a lawyer.

    • @samdoors5132
      @samdoors5132 Před 6 dny

      Or you can except your lumps and bumps, and admit what you did, and throw yourself at the mercy of God and the court system, and you may just avoid doing life in prison, regardless what your sentence would be.
      I say this from personal experience

  • @cogitoergospud1
    @cogitoergospud1 Před 9 měsíci +638

    This prosecution was ridiculous. That prosecutor and the two detectives should be embarrassed.

    • @arctic3038
      @arctic3038 Před 9 měsíci +25

      Seriously it seems they got tasked to find the murderer or else being fired and are just shooting for the husband with absolutely no valid evidence or proof.

    • @proud2bnumber1
      @proud2bnumber1 Před 9 měsíci +21

      But also the jury!

    • @JC71
      @JC71 Před 9 měsíci +5

      You’re the one that should be embarrassed with that comment.🙄

    • @arctic3038
      @arctic3038 Před 9 měsíci +9

      @@proud2bnumber1 seriously, that's somebody's life, if there's not enough evidence to completely prove he did it. Just say not guilty till they get it. Otherwise you're risking sentencing an innocent person to life in prison. That's somebody's life in your hands.

    • @sheltonalexander6785
      @sheltonalexander6785 Před 9 měsíci +2

      He probably did it, but there was barely enough evidence to go visit his house.

  • @heidinangle5111
    @heidinangle5111 Před 9 měsíci +498

    Did the jury ever hear of reasonable doubt? The prosecutors even admitted to shopping for a narrative that fit . Disgusting

    • @touchofdumb
      @touchofdumb Před 9 měsíci +13

      We weren’t at the trial. We just watched a little tv show.

    • @craigime
      @craigime Před 9 měsíci +11

      @@touchofdumb and?

    • @touchofdumb
      @touchofdumb Před 9 měsíci +9

      @@craigime And you and I don’t have the whole story.

    • @craigime
      @craigime Před 9 měsíci +27

      @@touchofdumb neither does the prosecution... and?

    • @buddhabunnee
      @buddhabunnee Před 9 měsíci +28

      @@touchofdumbhow many times you going to reply on this video with that same comment? If there was more evidence I'm sure the "little TV show" would've presented it. What we missed at the trial was likely the intense amount of spin and narrative the prosecution laid on top of the very flimsy evidence.

  • @GetMeThere1
    @GetMeThere1 Před 6 měsíci +63

    IMO there's a BIG problem today with jurors who don't seem to understand the concept of reasonable doubt. There is SIGNIFICANT doubt about the time of death -- and it could well have occurred when the husband was away from home. That alone (given that there's not much evidence against him) is DEFINITE reasonable doubt.

    • @nayascookbook1738
      @nayascookbook1738 Před měsícem +4

      Exactly. The only “evidence” they had was a time of death that could not be proven and a staged robbery, and that somehow points to the husband?? I honestly do not believe this.

    • @Erin-rg3dw
      @Erin-rg3dw Před 21 dnem +1

      Agreed - if you can't say every box is checked that someone is guilty, then there is reasonable doubt.

  • @elainemorgan6205
    @elainemorgan6205 Před 3 měsíci +35

    The prosecutor got her pride in there. That smirk when she admitted that if the new examiner didn't give the opinion she wanted she wouldn't have hired him. Sickening.

  • @shdowdncrfaerie85
    @shdowdncrfaerie85 Před 9 měsíci +695

    It's just ridiculous that he got charged because "there was no one else that could have done it" and that the prosecutor hired a man that agreed to say that she died at 3am. The only guy who put the TOD at an early enough time to agree with the story that they were trying to weave. Lack of any other DNA? Must be the husband. This was just bad police work

    • @pinkpugginz
      @pinkpugginz Před 9 měsíci +26

      he staged a burglary and was there at the time of death. the body was decomposed and in rigor. he's guilty.

    • @dickdavidson3616
      @dickdavidson3616 Před 9 měsíci +27

      Baden also testified that JFK was shot in the back of his head, not from the front!😳

    • @MegaLivingIt
      @MegaLivingIt Před 9 měsíci +13

      And nobody's talking about a possible insurance angle, which is often a big motivater..

    • @SharonMartinez
      @SharonMartinez Před 9 měsíci +22

      I say: “flip a coin?” Heads he did it, tails…flip again and again until you get heads.

    • @katebowers8107
      @katebowers8107 Před 9 měsíci +46

      @@pinkpugginz There is no reason to think beyond a reasonable doubt he ineptly staged the burglary. Some other person might have staged the burglary too. Did they prove that there was no one else who might have killed her and also staged a burglary? "No evidence" isn't evidence.

  • @YotaJen
    @YotaJen Před 9 měsíci +638

    18:59 This prosecutor’s huge cheesy smile about hiring the medical examiner to fit their fake story based on bad police work is disgusting. Why is she cheesing like that?!? Smiling knowing she didn’t have a strong enough case because there was a chance he just didn’t do it…but oh well, let’s just get this case closed so this dude can go to prison and I can go home and chill. She’s so gross.

    • @SR-og4cy
      @SR-og4cy Před 9 měsíci

      That medical examiner, Badan, is known for being paid to say whatever he is paid to. That absolutely highlights how these police had an agenda. There is no evidence. It's disturbing that they can decide you are the perpetrator and make it sound believable.

    • @suheylaa1769
      @suheylaa1769 Před 9 měsíci +37

      I agree 1000%!!!

    • @davidwoermansr
      @davidwoermansr Před 9 měsíci +17

      That's what the arrest warrant was based on and the jury didn't even consider it he deserves a new trial

    • @dozzer009
      @dozzer009 Před 9 měsíci +33

      I’d love to know how much they paid their expert witness and how he could make a TOD so long after her death.

    • @keithhodgson6489
      @keithhodgson6489 Před 8 měsíci +6

      100% agree!

  • @MrDinocizmic
    @MrDinocizmic Před 7 měsíci +24

    Wow if you lose this case as a defense lawyer you should retire. Absolutely no concrete evidence. Scary there are people out there who think like this and could be jurors

  • @NilDreams
    @NilDreams Před měsícem +9

    Unbelievable that someone could be convicted and sentenced to jail with absolutely no evidence. The jury got this wrong.

    • @GH-oi2jf
      @GH-oi2jf Před měsícem

      All of the testimony and all of the exhibits presented in court are evidence.

    • @tbarrelier
      @tbarrelier Před měsícem

      @@GH-oi2jf Evidence is DNA, fingerprints, blood splatter, witnesses, CCTV, etc. They had none of that. Hearsay/opinion is not properly evidence.

  • @marlajackson-9897
    @marlajackson-9897 Před 9 měsíci +684

    I do believe it was a staged burglary, and he may very well have been the murderer, but there is NO way I could have convicted him based on the evidence here! I cannot believe it was even allowed to go to trial! This poor family.

    • @tarajh
      @tarajh Před 9 měsíci +45

      Yeah, I'm shocked this even made it past the Prosecutor's desk. There's literally zero evidence!

    • @kittencatlover156
      @kittencatlover156 Před 9 měsíci +23

      Or the Murderer staged the burglary to frame anyone but themselves.. Why would he have on boat shoes at 3am if thats when she was killed?

    • @sandrabentley8111
      @sandrabentley8111 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Circumstantial.

    • @g3ner4lm4ss1v3
      @g3ner4lm4ss1v3 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ?

    • @birdlynn417
      @birdlynn417 Před 8 měsíci +14

      Of course, we are not going to see and know every thing about this case by this little program.

  • @heathershayne8275
    @heathershayne8275 Před 9 měsíci +494

    I’m appalled by the verdict. Over zealous prosecutor + jurors who don’t understand “reasonable doubt” = determining this man’s fate. Absolutely disgusting.

    • @thomasgentry6201
      @thomasgentry6201 Před 9 měsíci +27

      Jury should be prosecuted for incompetance!

    • @tankthearc9875
      @tankthearc9875 Před 9 měsíci +23

      id have a hard tiime voting guilty but the avg juror is a peanut head , god help us all

    • @HobbyOrganist
      @HobbyOrganist Před 9 měsíci +15

      The jury was there and saw and heard everything over that whole trial and testimony, evidence and everything else, , you and the rest of us only saw tiny sniplets of what 48 Hours wanted us to see and hear in a 40 minute film, the jury DECIDED based on everything, including all the evidence and testimony we didn't see or hear in this 40 minute film, the jury got it right.

    • @thomasgentry6201
      @thomasgentry6201 Před 9 měsíci

      Bull overzealous prosecutor and incompetent investigators!@@HobbyOrganist

    • @jasonv.9015
      @jasonv.9015 Před 8 měsíci +9

      @@HobbyOrganistI hope you don’t have kids, because you’d blame them for things they never did and would probably give them up for adoption at age 10

  • @ryanlucchesi8288
    @ryanlucchesi8288 Před 8 měsíci +28

    Unbelievable. A jury of your peers is the scariest thing. I hope they all realize that a life of a person is not a guessing or opinionated game and that they could have the same thing happen to them. How often do we see people wrongfully convicted over circumstantial evidence. Way to fail.

  • @no_peace
    @no_peace Před 7 měsíci +18

    Man the way his new wife speaks is a huge red flag

    • @user-je5nn2lq5j
      @user-je5nn2lq5j Před měsícem +9

      I hate when grown women talk like little girls.

    • @bdml77
      @bdml77 Před 3 dny

      She's out to lunch

  • @nypinstripes
    @nypinstripes Před 9 měsíci +225

    I'm not saying he didn't do it but I'd have a real hard time finding him guilty without reasonable doubt

    • @touchofdumb
      @touchofdumb Před 9 měsíci +8

      That’s understandable since you (and I) were not at the trial. The jury was though. They made the decision.
      And with more evidence than we were presented here in this little show.

    • @rachaelleann9847
      @rachaelleann9847 Před 9 měsíci +4

      same, just not enough

    • @snwrist_3
      @snwrist_3 Před 9 měsíci +4

      ​@@touchofdumbThey didn't have any evidence. Why do you think it took over 40 years? It was a last chance ditch effort.

    • @OctPSfever
      @OctPSfever Před 8 měsíci

      I think he killed her. Also its up to the jury. I have seen real stupid jury verdict, sometimes the killer goes free, other time they get it right. A lot to do with how defense lawyers present the case.

    • @user-jp6hp4qv7l
      @user-jp6hp4qv7l Před 8 měsíci +1

      That’s cause you have a brain unlike the jurors

  • @stephanielendon5703
    @stephanielendon5703 Před 9 měsíci +93

    To openly insinuate you would change your expert witness until you got the answers you need is just beyond belief.

    • @buschovski1
      @buschovski1 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Smirking while she said it too

    • @noteworthyinsignificance
      @noteworthyinsignificance Před 8 měsíci +4

      ​@@buschovski1Smirking? Flat out grinning and proud of it. I've never wanted to wish karma was real more than after watching this video.

    • @Ceerads
      @Ceerads Před 7 měsíci +2

      I’m assuming prosecutors and defense attorneys _all_ do that.

    • @batcactus6046
      @batcactus6046 Před 3 měsíci +1

      She openly admits it, then GRINS.

    • @shawndobson298
      @shawndobson298 Před 3 měsíci

      They had a second opinion from an expert which completely disagreed. Your argument is baseless

  • @dynamicpisces
    @dynamicpisces Před 5 měsíci +31

    I’m shocked that he was found guilty!! Wow.

  • @stephacevedo5466
    @stephacevedo5466 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Don’t think there was enough evidence but him not caring about her being murdered or seeking the real murderer put a target on his back.

  • @Songshare
    @Songshare Před 9 měsíci +596

    Unbelievable. It’s just hard to believe a jury can presume he was guilty.

    • @touchofdumb
      @touchofdumb Před 9 měsíci +18

      Why is it hard to believe? We weren’t there. We all watched a little tv show.

    • @maddad5404
      @maddad5404 Před 9 měsíci +31

      ​@@touchofdumbbecause they have nothing to prove he did it.

    • @ilovebrandnewcarpets
      @ilovebrandnewcarpets Před 9 měsíci +14

      @@touchofdumbhonest question, do you think the tv show omitted some kind of smoking gun?

    • @touchofdumb
      @touchofdumb Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@ilovebrandnewcarpets We don’t know what was omitted.
      Many reality TV shows use outrage to keep people interested. Not saying that’s what happened here but who knows?
      Many cases have been decided based on a big stack of circumstantial evidence that when all added up looks clear enough to a jury.
      Many cases have been solved without any smoking gun. There’s rarely a smoking gun. You gotta be there in time to see the gun before it quits smoking for one! 🙂

    • @danieldavis3035
      @danieldavis3035 Před 9 měsíci +10

      I agree. I don't think there was enough evidence. Too much time had passed. And the 'staged' crime scene looked like someone was in the middle of a burglary but got spooked and ran. That's why the garbage bag was left on the bedroom floor.

  • @cowgirlup495
    @cowgirlup495 Před 9 měsíci +70

    There was such tunnel vision with this case. It makes me mad for the family that they couldn’t see past him and find the actual killer 🙄😡

  • @tloraynevv7353
    @tloraynevv7353 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I lived in Cuba until i was 14 years old. When I was in first grade, one of my classmates woke up one morning to kids playing outside her house. She went to her moms room telling her, "mom, you didn't wake me up for school". She listed her mom's mosquito net, and pulled the covers off of her mom. Her mom was dead, with a screwdriver through her skull. What an awful thing to happen to a little girl.

  • @TonyaHale316
    @TonyaHale316 Před 4 měsíci +6

    What a complete sham. Absolutely no evidence. Wow.

  • @ashearman1679
    @ashearman1679 Před 9 měsíci +190

    I cannot believe they convicted on this. How do you even bring it to trial with NO motive and no real evidence he did it? No proof beyond a reasonable doubt. That convict down the street saying he did it is enough reasonable doubt. Scary this can happen.

    • @wendyc1902
      @wendyc1902 Před 9 měsíci

      They want CONVICTIONS...not actual justice! 🚫⚖️ 🇺🇲
      Be aware of prosecutors that claim they have a "tough on crime" 90-100% conviction rate!!!
      They aren't supposed to get it right every time!

    • @tear_tea
      @tear_tea Před 9 měsíci +6

      But that serial rapist did not even know what the victim looked like. He said she had black hair when she has blonde and said she’s fat when she’s not. He was obviously lying just to gain notoriety.

    • @leangrypoulet7523
      @leangrypoulet7523 Před 8 měsíci

      Having served on three jury trials, you'd be amazed at how stupid/disinterested/easily manipulated jurors are. Also the US criminal justice system is about as watertight as a fishing net.

    • @alimcgarel247
      @alimcgarel247 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Exactly!!!

    • @joen8529
      @joen8529 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@tear_tea I mean her hair looked dark to me in the photo… he said dark, the host said blonde, they showed her, I saw dark hair…

  • @NickCager
    @NickCager Před 9 měsíci +141

    The arrogance of the investigators is stunning. I heard nothing that would give me confidence in his guilt.
    Their theory is he snapped one time in his life. Using an ax on your wife and mother of your child? That's a huge snap and they presented no evidence he's ever done anything of the sort. There's no other woman. There's no huge life insurance policy. He just snapped? Pretty scary how thin a case can take a person's life away.

    • @girlwhomustnotbenamed4139
      @girlwhomustnotbenamed4139 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Yep, the question is not even if he actually did it bc it's possible even if it seems unlikely, but they just had absolutely no evidence for convicting him.

    • @sasharaj
      @sasharaj Před 3 měsíci

      So he snapped, did he. Out of the blue with no motive -- while she's SLEEPING -- he snaps. Pathetic -- I've come to believe that too often police and prosecutors are motivated by career advancement than by honest deliberation and assessment of the facts. The need the notch on their belts this case gives them to "COMPETE" with their peers. That female prosecutor makes my stomach turn. In essence, We chose Baden because he gave us the pretext we needed to indict! Badly done, woman, very badly done.

    • @LadyIarConnacht
      @LadyIarConnacht Před měsícem

      What's the alternative theory? Some guy breaks into the house in daylight, right when people are getting up for work, finds the axes owned by the family, strews valuables around without taking any, and then kills a sleeping woman for no reason, without assaulting her? Yeah, that makes sense - not.

  • @ayamata8950
    @ayamata8950 Před 4 měsíci +24

    "JIM, he is SOO HONEST!!!" He LIED about having a PHD to get to KODAK. Such an HONEST guy! WOW! LMFAO

    • @NilDreams
      @NilDreams Před měsícem +3

      Who doesn’t lie to get a better job???

    • @BlueCyann
      @BlueCyann Před měsícem +3

      @@NilDreams Lots of people probably?

    • @jessicamartinelli274
      @jessicamartinelli274 Před měsícem +4

      Lying to get a better job & murdering someone are two very different things, & he was in the program for a PhD he didn’t finish … so maybe he put it when he was planning to finish & then when he didn’t finish he wasn’t gonna tell anyone that , doesn’t make him a murderer .

    • @asenath7766
      @asenath7766 Před 29 dny +4

      I considered this as well. Her family was saying he was keeping her and their daughter away from them. Narcissists lie, they have a mask, and they isolate so they can control the victims. He was able to portray "nice guy" facade, that is why his current wife is so on his side. I think he did it.

  • @emmypagano4431
    @emmypagano4431 Před 2 měsíci +6

    “this is just a hiccup” GIRL WHAT😂😂😂😂

  • @fwippel1705
    @fwippel1705 Před 9 měsíci +72

    Good Lord, that conviction is based on almost no evidence and entirely on the presumption that Jim must have done the crime because they can't tie anyone else to it. This is what happens when the egos of prosecutors and law enforcement get in the way of seeking the truth.

  • @jenniferanderson9402
    @jenniferanderson9402 Před 8 měsíci +113

    They could've just left him alone. They had nothing on him. Nothing. He spent the last of his time on Earth dealing with this and dying alone in prison, just so they can vacate his conviction AFTER HE DIES. These people make me sick.

    • @Ceerads
      @Ceerads Před 7 měsíci +2

      They won’t be vacating his conviction. He did it. So you think cold cases shouldn’t be pursued if there’s new evidence or any other reason to open the case? Ridiculous.

    • @rachelsill79
      @rachelsill79 Před 4 měsíci +16

      ​@@Ceeradsactually you're 100% wrong. If a defendant dies during an appeal the conviction is vacated. He died during the appeal therefore the conviction was 100% vacated. Read a book. You shouldn't have got your Juris doctorate from a Happy Meal

    • @Ceerads
      @Ceerads Před 4 měsíci +9

      @@rachelsill79 I read many books. I’m wrong here, but you need not have tried to insult me. 🤮

    • @jamesball8519
      @jamesball8519 Před 3 měsíci +1

      He didn’t get anything vacated. He killed that woman

  • @shishkebab5306
    @shishkebab5306 Před 3 měsíci +19

    Just wondering why, if it was a stranger, they made it look like a robbery but took nothing, leaving all the valuables behind. That bit just doesn't make sense to me!

    • @shishkebab5306
      @shishkebab5306 Před měsícem +4

      @@Mataylor17 Good point.

    • @jessicamartinelli274
      @jessicamartinelli274 Před měsícem +3

      Maybe it was exactly why they didn’t look at anyone else .. staged apparently automatically means it was the husband , maybe the killer had the same idea the cops did

    • @shishkebab5306
      @shishkebab5306 Před měsícem +3

      @@jessicamartinelli274 Another good thought!

    • @SharonDunn-xo9pz
      @SharonDunn-xo9pz Před 21 dnem +1

      We walked in on a burglar one day and all the music equipment cords were cut and the duffel bag was sitting on the floor, ready to put everything into it. But he heard us and ran out the back door.
      I don't think the scene was staged. I think he heard Kathy or the little girl and was interrupted!!

  • @grundged
    @grundged Před 4 měsíci +11

    When someone says that a person is honest...that makes it seem that are anything but honest. 😂

  • @RaquelGarcia-gb9pu
    @RaquelGarcia-gb9pu Před 9 měsíci +168

    I can never understand how people put people in jail with absolutely no evidence. This hurts my heart.

    • @themathslady988
      @themathslady988 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Well there wasn't no evidence. She was definitely killed in her sleep which would make the time window for someone else to have killed her very narrow. Staged crime scene and shoe print. Completely the wrong MO for the other guy. No foreign DNA. Still looks a bit thin, but you and I were not on the jury and did not hear all the evidence.

    • @Ceerads
      @Ceerads Před 7 měsíci +4

      There was evidence, circumstantial. I think he was guilty.

    • @tamitribbiani7907
      @tamitribbiani7907 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@Ceerads I could never have said he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, jurries can't just convict based on feelings.

    • @tamitribbiani7907
      @tamitribbiani7907 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I think they had to blame someobody and they had nobody else so they pinned it on him, i'm not saying he didn't do it but his guilt def wasn't beyond a reasonable doubt!

    • @mariamamali7218
      @mariamamali7218 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Because 1+1=2
      Who else killed her like that?? A random person....?! No, a person close to her

  • @annar1209
    @annar1209 Před 9 měsíci +131

    Whether he really did it or not, this is the first case I doubted the jury’s guilty verdict beyond a reasonable doubt. Maybe he did do it but I don’t think there’s enough evidence to come to that conclusion.

    • @tankthearc9875
      @tankthearc9875 Před 9 měsíci +2

      maybe there was something else the show didnt touch on

    • @sloncemoje8394
      @sloncemoje8394 Před 9 měsíci +5

      I think exactly the same. Assuming that he's guilty because they cannot find any other clue pointing someone else, is not enough for me. Especially after 40 years.

    • @mariapilarme
      @mariapilarme Před 9 měsíci

      You are not the jury . They decided he was guilty for a reason. What you believe it’s not relevant. Just you opinion.

    • @ponygirlusa
      @ponygirlusa Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@mariapilarmeNot all juries are made up of intelligent people. 🙄

    • @tamitribbiani7907
      @tamitribbiani7907 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@mariapilarme And you think jurries never get it wrong?

  • @Erebus.666.
    @Erebus.666. Před 6 měsíci +14

    'If' he did do it, letting him remain free for 40 years, is basically letting him get away with it. Sentenced to prison at the very end of your life, is no justice, no punishment.

  • @nicolejohnson9244
    @nicolejohnson9244 Před 8 měsíci +20

    He kept the child away from her grandparents cause he was afraid she would start to remember. 3 years old are usually around the time of your 1st memories, traumatic memories even earlier. My daughter was a little over 1 when my heart stopped in my sleep. She doesn’t really remember all the details except my husband running around and “jumping on me” he was doing cpr and got my heart restarted before paramedics arrived saving my life.

    • @thedeviouspanda
      @thedeviouspanda Před 7 měsíci +8

      Exactly, she could have said something to them that would give him away.

    • @ballerman22345
      @ballerman22345 Před 4 měsíci +5

      so true

    • @dan-bz7dz
      @dan-bz7dz Před měsícem

      Yeah or maybe he did not want to live in that house anymore and chose to live with his family to get away from it. Don't reproduce

  • @oldhickory4686
    @oldhickory4686 Před 9 měsíci +20

    "I'm married to this man, I know his heart, and I know his soul." I can tell you this woman is very naive about man's nature, and our ability to compartmentalize things.

    • @Lemana28021989
      @Lemana28021989 Před měsícem +2

      Also...her voice is unsettling. She exudes "harmony above clarity" and it's weeeeird.

    • @gaylebynumcardosa7034
      @gaylebynumcardosa7034 Před 4 dny

      @@Lemana28021989 She's just one of those people that my mom and I call "sickly sweet." I know a few people like that and while they're decent enough, they're so opposite to me and my type of people that I (like you it would seem) have a strong dislike for them. I'm more of a sarcastic, acerbic, dark type. There are plenty of people who wouldn't like me either. Some people like her type and some like the kind that I am. Hey, to each his own.

  • @brandisuperstar
    @brandisuperstar Před 9 měsíci +172

    I absolutely love how Erin relays the stories. She's a wonderful narrator and keeps you wanting to watch!

    • @TNT-km2eg
      @TNT-km2eg Před 9 měsíci +10

      To the contrary

    • @davidb7180
      @davidb7180 Před 9 měsíci +8

      Keith Morrison enters the chat

  • @tonyI0
    @tonyI0 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Did I hear this right? Did that prosecutor lady literally admit to the fact that they were just fishing for a medical examiner that would give them the time they wanted to hear? And that she wouldn’t have hired him if he had agreed with the previous medical examiners who all said the same thing? In other words, the implication is that she would keep looking until she got the answer she wanted. She says that on national television and this man is still in prison?

  • @mizztotal
    @mizztotal Před 5 měsíci +27

    The fact that he lied about having a Ph.D to get his job at Kodak was very important. Wish they'd interviewed the two different women he "briefly" married after the killing. When they said it was obvious the 3-yr old baby had dressed herself it broke me.

    • @PianoGesang
      @PianoGesang Před 2 měsíci

      A very close relative was (wrongly) convicted of having falsified a Covid document to be able to register his new residence. He hasn't murdered anyone yet.

    • @mydogjesus
      @mydogjesus Před měsícem +2

      Hello prosecutor.

  • @sircharles1248
    @sircharles1248 Před 9 měsíci +30

    The Prosecutor laughed and said that she picked an expert that would give her the opinion she wanted regarding time of death. Her law license shouold be removed immediately. This convictions should be thrown out with extreme prejudice. That is absolutely preposterous.

  • @lenymitchell
    @lenymitchell Před 9 měsíci +83

    How many people are in prison unjustly right now? I think we would be shocked by the truth

    • @noteworthyinsignificance
      @noteworthyinsignificance Před 8 měsíci +2

      That's why these stories about these horrible public "servants" are so infuriating. So three of them were just so excited to be on TV, they didn't care that they broke the law and would have lost the appeal. Honestly, it makes me wonder if someone situated him in his sleep so the appeal would stop. After what they did to conduct him, I wouldn't put it past them. Can't let the truth get in the way of their newfound fame.

    • @jessiefrye3045
      @jessiefrye3045 Před 8 měsíci

      4% of all inmate population, are INNOCENT.
      4%.

    • @Ceerads
      @Ceerads Před 7 měsíci

      And how many murderers still haven’t been caught? You know how many murders remain unsolved? It works both ways.

  • @nicolejohnson9244
    @nicolejohnson9244 Před 8 měsíci +12

    I think anyone who says “my husband could never do that” is naive. My husband loves me more than anything, but w/great love comes great jealousy. I know what I could do in a moment of psychoticness if I thought I was going to lose everything I love.

    • @Lizlaliz
      @Lizlaliz Před 8 měsíci +3

      Well said. This wife is naive.

    • @PianoGesang
      @PianoGesang Před 2 měsíci +2

      So, are you implying that you are a killer in the making? Here's an advice for you, if you are ever on the edge, don't do it. This comment will seal your fate.

    • @BlueCyann
      @BlueCyann Před měsícem

      Yeah? So do I, because it's happened. I think I threw a pot, and not even at anybody. Maybe it was a frying pan. And then I cried a lot.

    • @Lemana28021989
      @Lemana28021989 Před měsícem

      Phew. That's some statement. I was in an abusive 'relationship' and he absolutely knew how to drive me literally crazy.. I never would have been able to harm him, even though he completely drove me to the edge.

    • @user-eb7ko2cf8l
      @user-eb7ko2cf8l Před měsícem

      "With the great love comes jealousy" 🤮🤮🤮🤮 that's ridiculous absolutely not true.. When you truly love someone you know them very well and trust them. Trust is what keeps a healthy relationship and love last longer. Toxic love/relationship is built with lies that's when the jealousy comes.

  • @GypsyRock
    @GypsyRock Před 22 dny +2

    I would pay to see Erin Moriarty smile. A genuine, joyful happy smile accompanied by a matching throw-your-head-back laugh. I just can't imagine it so I wanna see it

  • @Donald_Ray
    @Donald_Ray Před 9 měsíci +134

    Are we really to believe, that someone is able to determine an almost exact time of death, some FORTY years after the person has died?

    • @reginadavis7499
      @reginadavis7499 Před 9 měsíci +30

      No we can't and shocked they filed charges with so little evidence

    • @jeremysmith9694
      @jeremysmith9694 Před 9 měsíci +27

      She admitted the only reason she hired him was because he gave that time. That should not be allowed as evidence.

    • @trekmanone1676
      @trekmanone1676 Před 9 měsíci +6

      Jury stated they DID NOT base guilt on time of death. It was a 100% staged burglary by someone who doesn't know how to stage a burglary scene. I agree with is guilt. Only doubt I have is I did not hear in the video... what was the motive?

    • @lindseyyoung9149
      @lindseyyoung9149 Před 9 měsíci +9

      ​@trekmanone1676 They say they didn't, but even the prosecutor admitted that without that change in time of death, they didn't have a case.

    • @Nouse10
      @Nouse10 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Exactly!

  • @stellaz2595
    @stellaz2595 Před 9 měsíci +212

    He died in prison of esophageal cancer in May of 2023. He served 6 months of his 25 year sentence. I feel so sorry for his wife and daughter. ADD: Under state law, Krauseneck's indictment for the crime will now be dismissed because of a pending appeal. The logic is this: The appeal did not have an opportunity to be considered, so the indictment should be dismissed because of the possibility of a successful appeal.

    • @thomasgentry6201
      @thomasgentry6201 Před 9 měsíci +42

      Anyone on the Jury should be prosecuted for being incompetent and the witch DA had a axe to grind!!

    • @bucketree
      @bucketree Před 9 měsíci +36

      It was all badly done 😢 so sad for his wife and daughter

    • @tankthearc9875
      @tankthearc9875 Před 9 měsíci +17

      @@thomasgentry6201 lol, this show didnt talk about the electric blanket used to slow down the time of death. nor the food still in her stomach., time of death played a major role in their decision

    • @brandyyolidio4213
      @brandyyolidio4213 Před 9 měsíci +10

      Oh my gosh, did not know that. This was a hard case, even though no one else fit the profile, it does not mean he is the only logical choice when we live in a world full of quiet dangerous murderers who may or may not leave a drop of evidence.
      I did not feel good about the decision.
      Hugs to you Sam, you have been through a lot, be kind to yourself love ❤❤

    • @suheylaa1769
      @suheylaa1769 Před 9 měsíci +3

      No way😮

  • @amandaoneil6581
    @amandaoneil6581 Před 4 měsíci +4

    How is hiring a lawyer always a sign of guilt? I believe I would absolutely hire a lawyer no matter how big or small something was if the COPs came knocking...

  • @deneene
    @deneene Před 3 měsíci +4

    That man could very well be innocent! What an injustice!

  • @alicepang931
    @alicepang931 Před 9 měsíci +41

    Always get a lawyer. Honestly, especially if you’re innocent. Don’t let the system end up screwing you over!

  • @imdoneplus
    @imdoneplus Před 9 měsíci +136

    When people say “he doesn’t look like a killer,” I always wonder “what does a killer look like?” It comes down to “bad genes” and bad hygiene, or simply a strange look in their eye. While I don’t recommend allowing strangers unrestricted access to your life, I also suggest we stop looking at strangers and judging them by their appearance.

    • @jeremysmith9694
      @jeremysmith9694 Před 9 měsíci +10

      Obviously it's a ridiculous thing to say

    • @betty0672
      @betty0672 Před 9 měsíci +19

      Like the lady said “Ted Bundy didn’t look like a serial killer” either.

    • @SidewaysInTraffic
      @SidewaysInTraffic Před 9 měsíci +7

      Ugh yes and no. Some are predictable while some aren't. However, I would say wife murders have a different appearance than serial/mass murders.

    • @elsie6828
      @elsie6828 Před 9 měsíci +14

      ​@@betty0672 Except Ted Bundy did look like a serial killer; if you know what you're looking for, you can't stop seeing it.

    • @brandyyolidio4213
      @brandyyolidio4213 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Clearly categorizing a killer based on appearance is not a solid trusted method.
      This was a tough case.

  • @nicolejohnson9244
    @nicolejohnson9244 Před 8 měsíci +24

    Unfortunately him running away and skipping town when he was supposed to be at a police interview would’ve told me everything. Ok maybe you want a lawyer, but you stick around and find out what happened to your wife…unless you already know. The police would have to arrest my husband cause he would be doing his own investigating and has already said that if he found the guy 1st, he would be the one in prison. He certainly wouldn’t skip town and keep my babies away from their loving grandparents.

    • @christieleesimkins
      @christieleesimkins Před 2 měsíci

      Maybe he wanted the support of his parents, being now an only parent and the grief of losing his way in such an horrific way? Naturally the child may spend less time with the other family as that genuine connection to the family is gone

    • @eviekibet
      @eviekibet Před 29 dny

      Why wouldn’t his parents go to him to support him? I wouldn’t expect my son to move out of location immediately after his wife died instead of staying to help with investigations any way he can.

  • @MarlinValance
    @MarlinValance Před 13 dny +1

    Scary when the police decide you're guilty and you're not.

  • @cshaffer8258
    @cshaffer8258 Před 9 měsíci +200

    Wow!!! This story infuriated me! You have a DA admitting that it Baden’s time of death didn’t occur prior to the husband leaving, she would look for someone else to fit the narrative? The so called “detectives” saying that the aren’t experienced with homicide, yet they knew that the husband did it??? The shoes were never tested? And that his DNA was found on the axe? Why wouldn’t his DNA be found on the axe? He lived there and probably used the axe for chores around the house. If your inexperienced in investigating homicides, why didn’t they call in a professional agency? Why was the DA so close minded in finding a coroner’s earlier timeline? And how can Baden verify the TOD since he had no affiliation with the case? From reading reports? I have a lot of respect for Baden, however there’s clear evidence that he has a history of being a hired gun for many DA’s. Maybe her husband did it? Maybe he didn’t? In my opinion, there wasn’t enough clear cut evidence to support the findings. Tunnel vision? You bet!!

    • @stevemarriott5649
      @stevemarriott5649 Před 9 měsíci +23

      @cshaffer8283 very well put! And the part where the DA smugly grinned whilst admitting that she wouldn't have hired baden if his testimony didn't fit the timeline she wanted! How unprofessional!!

    • @wendyc1902
      @wendyc1902 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@stevemarriott5649
      Goes to show that prosecutors want CONVICTIONS...
      NOT actual Justice!!!
      This one makes me so angry because I know how pro-prosecution our "system" is!!!
      Most cold cases are brought to trial because there's definitive evidence, like DNA or a body found.
      What's the REAL reason why they wanted to try this old case if there's no new evidence?!
      Prosecutors can convince a jury of anything...if allowed to word everything properly.
      What defense does this man have all these decades later?!

    • @sirmadam8183
      @sirmadam8183 Před 9 měsíci

      Unless you hear all the evidence, don't be so certain. I trust the jury. They heard all the evidence. This is still television and it's only 41 minutes.

    • @stevenfarrington2361
      @stevenfarrington2361 Před 9 měsíci +10

      I can’t understand why the investigation was so weak. Didn’t anyone ask Kodak about his manner and behaviour during the day if he supposedly went to work straight after murdering his wife? Why would he abandon his daughter at 3am until late at night and then bring her up in a loving environment for the rest of her life? It doesn’t make sense. While I’d like to blame Laraby the evidence is weak there too and shows how bad the initial investigation was.

    • @HobbyOrganist
      @HobbyOrganist Před 9 měsíci +3

      " And that his DNA was found on the axe? Why wouldn’t his DNA be found on the axe? "
      Because 40 years ago there was no DNA tests and nobody even thought of collecting microscopic material for a test that didnt exist.
      The axe had a wood handle, not exactly any kind of ideal surface for fingerprints or DNA, and whatever sames and tests they DID do, didn't find foreign material on it from someone else. The axe looked old and even a bit rusty and like it had been outside in the rain, there was even tape or something on it put on no doubt because the user slipped when chopping wood or something and the handle hit badly splintering it's surface.
      The Husband's DNA or blood etc would have been on the axe anyway because it was HIS, but no one elses' material but his and his wife's was on it, no Ed Larabe material on it

  • @serenasantiago1964
    @serenasantiago1964 Před 9 měsíci +131

    I could sleep at night knowing that I set guilty person free, but if I put 1 innocent person in jail I think I'd suffer for the rest of my life. I don't believe there was enough evidence in this case to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that this man committed this crime. He could have, but it needs to be proven. I just don't see the proof.

    • @calaf1816
      @calaf1816 Před 8 měsíci +6

      one innocent person in prison is already too much,

    • @noteworthyinsignificance
      @noteworthyinsignificance Před 8 měsíci +6

      That's because you're a good person who cares about justice, not a horrible person who just wanted more fame.

    • @user-jp6hp4qv7l
      @user-jp6hp4qv7l Před 8 měsíci +5

      That’s cause you’re a smart and good hearted person. Most ppl in America are not

  • @abc3375
    @abc3375 Před 5 měsíci +11

    Not mentioned anywhere in this documentary is the fairly obvious fact that if an intruder had gained access to the home by breaking glass with a maul, not only would it have had to have been in the early dawn or daylight hours after James had left for work (makes no sense), but Cathy almost certainly would have woken up. Also, what mother takes a nap with a 3.5 year old alone in the house? Cathy was probably killed in the early morning hours when she was asleep, and the glass was broken shortly afterwards, when Sarah was asleep. It was probably not premeditated, because the coverup was so poor. Since it was somehow determined that the axe and maul belonged to James, an intruder gaining access to them and killing Cathy in her sleep simply does not add up. James snapped, killed his wife with his axe, and then clumsily attempted to stage a burglary scene. He had to go to work and leave Sarah alone in the house, otherwise he would have had no alibi. His new wife seems not merely naïve, but extraordinarily so; and, the fact that she never even asked James if he did it essentially proves as much. An easy person to convince and control, she probably gave him far less trouble than Cathy did. Why was he so nice to her all those years? Probably because he's not a natural killer, and was being penitent. He was trying to make up for it in his own mind.

    • @ballerman22345
      @ballerman22345 Před 4 měsíci +5

      SO TRUE, also running to the neighbors house to call 911??? I would call from my own home.

    • @LadyIarConnacht
      @LadyIarConnacht Před měsícem +2

      Best comment, very insightful.

    • @BlueCyann
      @BlueCyann Před měsícem +3

      Yeah, some of these comments are not the most insightful. You can debate reasonable doubt all day, but that what evidence does exist points to him seems incontrovertible. Even the "but why would he do that" questions I usually despise are pretty decent in this case. The only thing I'd contest a bit out of what you said is that she would definitely have woken up to the sound of a breaking window. I've slept through louder sounds than that.

    • @projectionv.accountability1010
      @projectionv.accountability1010 Před 29 dny

      Perhaps, but it's a bizarre note to make that no mother takes a nap with their kid "alone" in the house. You must not have kids. Moms lay down with their kids every single day, all around the world, to get them to take a nap. Sometimes... stay with me here... they even nap WITH their kids. Crazy, I know.

  • @myboyz9391
    @myboyz9391 Před 6 měsíci +4

    If the cops are relying on the boat shoes as their "smoking gun" then he better be found not guilty! I had a pair of those exact shoes in highschool.I wore them all-year-round. SMH😔

  • @EverettLang65
    @EverettLang65 Před 9 měsíci +109

    If you don’t have a witness to a crime, just hire a consultant that will say what you want.

  • @Sharetheroad3333
    @Sharetheroad3333 Před 9 měsíci +160

    The female attorney from Rochester is absolutely disturbing. What a sick, opportunistic, woman.

    • @Youtubing5999
      @Youtubing5999 Před 9 měsíci +13

      Her smirk that she would not have hired that guy if he agreed with the original death time says it all

    • @Sharetheroad3333
      @Sharetheroad3333 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@Youtubing5999 yes. Yucky

    • @lolamurder1882
      @lolamurder1882 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Youtubing5999 Exactly this. The DA hired him because she knew he'd give her the answer she wanted.

    • @markprange4386
      @markprange4386 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Youtubing5999: Tendentious.

    • @joel6221
      @joel6221 Před 7 měsíci +2

      She's a lawyer ... sooooo

  • @zinny1222
    @zinny1222 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I hate when police and DA's say "no doubt in my mind" when there is only barely any evidence.

  • @wiloka28
    @wiloka28 Před 6 měsíci +2

    If the jury was that divided. Then it should have been an acquittal. The evidence does not add up.

  • @alisiabakerjb
    @alisiabakerjb Před 8 měsíci +36

    He died in prison in May of 2023 only six months after getting sentenced. People are saying it's karma, but I disagree. There was no evidence to ever convict him. Not sure why the jury seems content with their outcome. Even if he was guilty, all the smiling was so unnecessary. Very sad!

  • @JaimieJo
    @JaimieJo Před 9 měsíci +22

    A 3½ year old girl left alone all day will definitely play with all the things she would otherwise not be allowed to! A silver tea set, Mommy's purse! Looked like she was having a tea party on the floor.

  • @petrastonier8494
    @petrastonier8494 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Some people were looking for a promotion, another for the grandfathers will, and another a tie to his work. To select him out of all the cold cases the have on file….this one was disgusting

  • @DA-bp8lf
    @DA-bp8lf Před 8 měsíci +12

    The man seems to be innocent, but the idea that some stranger hated his wife so much, for reasons nobody could ever explain. I mean, how could somebody that the family doesn’t know, build up such a rage of hatred, that he waits in the bushes until the husband leaves for work, then some how gets into the house and puts an axe in his wives head? Then disappears like a ghost? It’s in impossible possibility.

  • @marygoff3332
    @marygoff3332 Před 9 měsíci +68

    There have been numerous crime scenes without the perpetrator's DNA or fingerprints present. That doesn't mean there wasn't an intruder.

  • @melissajohnson3308
    @melissajohnson3308 Před 9 měsíci +56

    I think the fact they kept looking for someone to give them a time of death that gave them a case says it all! They knew they didn't have a case!I feel so bad for Sara. When she said she's now had both her parents taken from her, it's so unfair! I hope he is granted an appeal at least!

    • @stephanielloyd4053
      @stephanielloyd4053 Před 9 měsíci +7

      He passed away in prison this year after only 6 months.

  • @aliamouzasakaluran5399
    @aliamouzasakaluran5399 Před 4 měsíci +5

    He should be the one calling and reaching out to the police asking the status of his wife case!

  • @nzburger
    @nzburger Před 6 měsíci +2

    No way there is/was enough evidence to charge....absence of evidence for one person isn't evidence against another

  • @wizzardofpaws2420
    @wizzardofpaws2420 Před 9 měsíci +113

    They didn't prove he was guilty.

    • @touchofdumb
      @touchofdumb Před 9 měsíci +4

      We weren’t at the trial. We just watched a little tv show.

    • @edwinthomas618
      @edwinthomas618 Před 9 měsíci +8

      They proved he was guilty until proven innocent. This was sad

    • @andy.s123
      @andy.s123 Před 9 měsíci +3

      ​@@touchofdumband then we are spamming in the comment section

    • @dana2708
      @dana2708 Před měsícem +1

      @@edwinthomas618He’s guilty alright.

    • @MiaKatharine
      @MiaKatharine Před 18 dny

      @@dana2708 there are other cases that point to the husband when they cant find any outside DNA. It's not so unusual as far as that respect. And as far as that other guy, it was not his MO at all. First of all he would have been there with her husband there because of the time but most importantly, she wasnt raped and he wouldn't have put an axe through her head more than likely. I think you are correct, it was definitely the husband.

  • @shabue
    @shabue Před 9 měsíci +176

    I found myself on the fence about his innocence or guilt but I was certain that he should have never went to trial. To many unknowns for a prosecution to proceed with the evidence it did as facts. I can understand why the daughter moved out of the country. This was America at it’s worst.

    • @Clintsessentials
      @Clintsessentials Před 9 měsíci +6

      Agree.

    • @tankthearc9875
      @tankthearc9875 Před 9 měsíci +2

      guilty imo but not beyond a reasonable doubt , thee were a few more things this show didnt touch on

    • @shabue
      @shabue Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@tankthearc9875 gone are the days when the show would give us the entire picture.

    • @cccycling5835
      @cccycling5835 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Well, there are certainly a lot of countries that are much worse on the corruption when it comes to the judicial system. But I would agree. Too much reasonable doubt, not enough evidence. Let God judge him if he did it.

    • @maguffintop2596
      @maguffintop2596 Před 9 měsíci +5

      These reporters did an an absolutely horrible job in this. Where was the character witnesses, work associates, friends, other family? Why did he run? Separate kid from mothers parents? If he ‘snapped’ why??!! I could go on, but you get the point.

  • @TiffanyGarveyABD
    @TiffanyGarveyABD Před 3 měsíci +2

    Knowing he died recently and they vacated the indictment after his death makes me so upset. This never should have happened!
    If I was on that jury I’d be the one hold out causing a hung jury!
    They ONLY charged him because of Boden’s 330am TOD!
    No evidence, no motive…. That is NOT beyond a reasonable doubt and these jurors should be ashamed.

  • @mandyraley1450
    @mandyraley1450 Před 8 měsíci +5

    My new favorite shows … the music gets me

  • @Badger705
    @Badger705 Před 8 měsíci +63

    This is a tragic miscarriage of justice. It is beyond me how anyone could have found him guilty. The evidence wasn't there.

  • @xana7088
    @xana7088 Před 9 měsíci +92

    I have been watching this show for years and I am not even American. It literally helped me major in English language and Arts. Amazing representations of true stories, very good job ❤

    • @davidc3839
      @davidc3839 Před 9 měsíci

      It often highlights the corruption of the police and the prosecution. They are interested in winning, not in justice. I watch from a country where more inference is put on justice

    • @0cthm0
      @0cthm0 Před 9 měsíci

      english arts? you mean murdering?

  • @mindyrobinson3245
    @mindyrobinson3245 Před 5 měsíci +5

    The boat shoe print on the garbage bag is very telling. He owned a pair of them. What burglar commits his crimes wearing boat shoes? Also, she most likely wouldn't have still been asleep at 6:30 when he says he left. She would've been waking up to take care of her young daughter. He did it in the wee morning hours while she was sound asleep.

  • @justinthompson5190
    @justinthompson5190 Před 2 měsíci +2

    How did this even make it to a jury? Not enough proof period!

  • @caitlinelizabeth7808
    @caitlinelizabeth7808 Před 9 měsíci +117

    Prosecutions like this make me sick. Such a waste of taxpayer money. And so traumatizing for the wrongly accused.

    • @Frank-tj5de
      @Frank-tj5de Před 9 měsíci +10

      It's disgusting. I would hate to be in that mans shoes if he was truly innocent.

    • @touchofdumb
      @touchofdumb Před 9 měsíci +5

      Didn’t we all just watch a little TV show? Were any of us at the trial? Rushing to judgment rampant on this board.
      Remember, many TV shows are crafted to infuriate the audience. That’s why the most annoying contestant on reality show stays till the last episode.

    • @tankthearc9875
      @tankthearc9875 Před 9 měsíci

      lol there is more evidence then this show showed . everyone is a yt expert now

    • @tankthearc9875
      @tankthearc9875 Před 9 měsíci

      @@touchofdumb here is what i found , an electric blanket was used to throw off time of death, also food was undigested in her stomach she was murdered that night not morning , bingo now we know why the jury swung that way , the yt detectives here think they know it all.

    • @snwrist_3
      @snwrist_3 Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@@touchofdumbTrue, but there was no established motive and the prosecution decided to go after the guy after over 40 years as a last chance ditch effort.

  • @rameshrolla1574
    @rameshrolla1574 Před 9 měsíci +38

    It's funny and irritating at the same time ...to see prosecution and detectives saying
    " I have no doubt in my mind"
    when there is a clear REASONABLE DOUBT in this case

    • @Nouse10
      @Nouse10 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Exactly!

    • @sirmadam8183
      @sirmadam8183 Před 9 měsíci

      Based on 41 minutes of a TV show? Interesting.

    • @rameshrolla1574
      @rameshrolla1574 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@sirmadam8183 to tell one is guilty..NO ...but to have a reasonable doubt..YES.... it's enough

    • @ponygirlusa
      @ponygirlusa Před 8 měsíci

      If it wasn't so pathetic it'd be laughable. There wasn't any proof.

  • @Malee968
    @Malee968 Před 4 měsíci +4

    i'm amazed how people think that they know a person from inside out...if you're 18 and older you're not "naive", it's called "stupid".

  • @Opnoob777
    @Opnoob777 Před 3 měsíci +2

    How can a man be put in prison without any evidence beyond reasonable doubt?

  • @missjo7377
    @missjo7377 Před 9 měsíci +118

    Motive???! How did they prove him guilty without even discussing motive? This case makes me mad 😡

    • @Douglas_Hamilton
      @Douglas_Hamilton Před 9 měsíci +3

      That's my question too. Even though prosecutors don't need motive I suppose the jury need one in order to send an old man at his age to life in prison.

    • @HobbyOrganist
      @HobbyOrganist Před 9 měsíci +8

      The jury was there and saw and heard everything over that whole trial and testimony, evidence and everything else, , you and the rest of us only saw tiny sniplets of what 48 Hours wanted us to see and hear in a 40 minute film, the jury DECIDED based on everything, including all the evidence and testimony we didn't see or hear in this 40 minute film, the jury got it right.

    • @dozzer009
      @dozzer009 Před 9 měsíci +13

      @@HobbyOrganist
      I don’t know. How could their expert witnesses make a determination about her time of death 40 years after the fact?? I don’t think they would have had a case without that testimony and the fact they “shopped” for an expert to give them the results they wanted, while discarding other pathologists opinions, speaks volumes.

    • @vriskaxtereziotp
      @vriskaxtereziotp Před 8 měsíci +7

      Motive isn't a requirement. Not that I believe they proved he was guilty. But you can be guilty and not have the motive known

    • @evamanetti4959
      @evamanetti4959 Před 8 měsíci

      How bout a fact he was married 4 times

  • @2005wsoxfan
    @2005wsoxfan Před 9 měsíci +172

    Her admission to the time of death expert says it all. She cares not for justice. She and the detectives just want to pin it on someone. Disgusting individuals.

    • @donnamariedavidson5065
      @donnamariedavidson5065 Před 9 měsíci +6

      I so agree.

    • @itsahellofaname
      @itsahellofaname Před 9 měsíci +6

      That's our "justice" system - it has nothing to do with justice or solving a crime. It has everything to do with winning or losing in court, period. As you saw here, they will do anything to win, regardless of justice.

    • @missssssssssssme
      @missssssssssssme Před 9 měsíci

      I agree! They were probably just forced to close some cold cases to justify tax payers money being spent.

    • @katiepunch42
      @katiepunch42 Před 8 měsíci +2

      💯%

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 8 měsíci +2

      Unreasonable conclusion on your part. She was convinced that she had her guy, so yes, she did what she could to prove it.

  • @junkim8251
    @junkim8251 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I am just shocked by the guilty verdict...there's absolutely NO WAY that the prosecution proved their case beyond reasonable doubt....what an example of the failed justice system.

  • @AbcDef-wq3es
    @AbcDef-wq3es Před měsícem +1

    Never talk to police without your own attorney !!! EVER EVER !!!

  • @hazelmill20
    @hazelmill20 Před 9 měsíci +90

    It’s hard to tell for sure without being able to look closely at all the of the pictures of the house-but the “staged burglary” stuff like the tea set being out and the purse being spilled out could very well have been the daughter. She was there all day by herself. That seems like exactly what my daughter would have done at 3 years old if she’d been left home alone…get into all the shiny things she wasn’t allowed to touch.

    • @eldajackson1
      @eldajackson1 Před 8 měsíci +6

      Exactly.

    • @TheStar798
      @TheStar798 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Great points! My 3 year old was the same! 🤔

    • @TheKissyfer
      @TheKissyfer Před 7 měsíci +2

      I didn't even think of that but yes! I have a 4 year old and I can totally see this happening. The only thing that defies that is the adult shoe print on the garbage bag - but maybe Sara put the shoe on there and moved it? All in all just too many doubts and unknowns. He should have never been found guilty.

    • @Pinsyl
      @Pinsyl Před 7 měsíci +5

      This is great thinking on your part. I never thought of that, it makes sense.

    • @BlueCyann
      @BlueCyann Před měsícem

      I wonder if anybody asked.

  • @melissatucker4469
    @melissatucker4469 Před 9 měsíci +27

    What could possibly have been his motive? No affair, no insurance policy, no divorce, no child custody battle, etc

    • @paxetbonum7270
      @paxetbonum7270 Před 9 měsíci +18

      His wife during his trial was spouse #4. It seems we didn't get ALL the evidence and other details that may have been presented in court.

    • @elsie6828
      @elsie6828 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@paxetbonum7270☝️

    • @OctPSfever
      @OctPSfever Před 8 měsíci +4

      His current house looked very luxury. Who knows he got her life insurance. He obviously worked a way up to build up his wealth. He also found a woman who loves him unconditionally #4 wife.

  • @ghlocal1
    @ghlocal1 Před 6 měsíci +2

    There is reasonable doubt, and no true motive! Unbelievable