IRISH Girl Rugby Coach Reacts to Biggest AMERICAN Football Hits EVER FTFT!
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- Is it tougher than rugby? Is there any NEED for helmets? Is that legal?!
IRISH Girl Rugby Coach Reacts to Biggest AMERICAN Football Hits EVER!
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The world: “ are these hits legal?”
Americans: “today or in the footage?”
Today's is better
@@KDH-br6hy For the health of the players yeah but personally I liked the more violent hits
Yeah, but fewer concussions and players beating their girls or blowing their brains out.
@@SaguaroBlossom Like I said for the health of the players on and off the field. Because today’s hits are a lot held back then what they could be.
Most of them are still legal, but a lot of the head to head and horsecollar tackles make me cringe
Foreigners “pads make you look like pansy’s”
Americans “here watch some football”
Foreigners “WTF? what is wrong with you people?”
Best comment ever.
Great Comment 👍👍
That is one of the best comments I've ever seen somebody reactin to football that's never seen it.
Literally 😂😂
100%
“What’s the point of the helmets if they keep coming off”
A: would you rather be hit by a train standing on the tracks, or in your car?
That’s a really good analogy
@@Kamaji__ 🤣🤣😭😭😭💀💀
Yes.
Well Put..😆
@@Vietnameselanguageforkids you wont get concussions if your smart and dont actually bash two heads head on or just slow down if they do.
The fact that you have to watch it at half speed is a huge indicator of the difference between Football and Rugby. American Football is FAST and they hit hard.
And they stop every 5 seconds...do football players tackle, and run with the ball, and scrum, and ruck, and maul? all in one game...I doubt it - you know nothing about rugby so rather talk about football only but don't even try to compare it when you know 0 about rugby
@@Dgcgtff lol you sound butthurt
@@Dgcgtff rugby shares similar conditioning to soccer. They are moving at all times at moderate speeds but only really do exert extra energy while they are in possession of the ball or close enough to have the ball passed to them.
In football, unless the ball is on the opposite side of the field by design of the play, you are more than likely exerting full energy because you are supposed to be getting to a position where you are blocking for your ball carrier. They make up for this by slowing down to almost nothing after the end of every play.
@@Dgcgtff There's a reason there isn't a pipeline from rugby to the NFL. Rugby players are usually too small and too slow at their equivalent positions. A rugby player is better conditioned for endurance, much like in soccer. But an American football player is more explosive and can sprint faster, it's just the nature of the way each game is played. The frequent stoppage is to set up another play, you're acting like they're out there having tea between plays. The open field hits in the NFL, and the speeds at which they happen, there is NOTHING like that in rugby. It's just not played that way. Rugby players aren't spearing each other head first at 40 mph closing speeds in the open field. American football is a human demolition derby. It's flat-out dangerous, these guys are literally head-hunting each other. The games are related, but up close they are totally different.
@@Dgcgtff lol, frustrated to feminine dude from the UK tells American football fans not to talk about rugby without prior knowledge than proceeds to probably demonstrate that he knows nothing about American football. Look how aggressive you came out swinging with your reply like someone just slapped your mum. Nobody who watches rugby videos recoils and horror and shock at how brutal the sport is, but all y'all rugby fans do so when you react to NFL videos. *shrug*
For the record I use to like football in sports in general but these days I just couldn't give a shit I just happened to click on this video for some reason and well I can't help but shoot lippy twats down when I see em.
Once read where a professional rugby player described it this way: rugby is a contact sport, American football is a collision sport.
Boomer Sooner!
Hence why they have padding. They are literal 245 pounds of tanks running at you.
@@Logical_Chronical at least 245
Crimsonkingokie Yes but the only exception would be the scrum where the front row forwards have ton weight pushing against there necks.
The only reason american football players wear so much padding is because each player is making MILLIONS some cases hundreds of millions of dollars to help them win. They are just protecting investments
Rugby fan: why do American football players were so much padding *10 seconds of American football video* oh they would die
Never gets old
I hid a broken wrist as a lineman for a season because it was my senior year in college. I got MVP, but 12 years later it is still messed up
Classic. Football is so much more brutal on a force impact perspective.
Before the pads were required players would die. 19 deaths in 1905. Then-president Roosevelt helped spur the adoption of pads, plus some other changes to the game to eliminate such deaths.
Im surprised we haven’t seen some snapped necks/ dead bodies on the field.
@@ogspermcell Over a hundred years ago, we did. The comment before yours said that there were 19 deaths in 1905. That amount doesn't surprise me.
"Seems like the pads add to the violence." Very perceptive and accurate.
Put water in a bottle shake it that’s your brain
The pads make them go harder 👍🏻
Nah pads / helmets were mandated around 1907 because something like 20 people died in one season
Perhaps you need to read the definitions of those two words you used. Those two words don't apply to what you are commenting about
The pads keep the players alive.
I played HS football and a bit of Rugby in my 20s, while rugby has no body armor, there aren't blind side hits. So there are many differences. A QB hit by a 300lb defensive lineman from behind and never sees it coming is a truly brutal hit.
Rub some dirt on it and get back into the game... I couldn't use a pen on Mondays sometimes because my hands were so beat up. Endurance is key, you give one hundred percent on every play... for the entire game.
LT actually ended a qbs career and made the left offensive end position so famous because they protect the qbs blindside
Getting clocked by a defensive back with both of you running full speed is downright scary.
Irish: “We don’t have contact until high school”
Americans: “If you haven’t broken a bone by 12 you’re not hitting hard enough”
Kenny woods High school in ireland or secondary school usually starts around 11 or 12 any way we don't have middle schools as such.In the rugby schools rugby is mandatory for the first month and after that you can choose whether to play or not.
This is accurate.
This is so true
True i started playing American football at 6 ive broken a few bone by the time I hit 12 its fun
@@kengreen4933 The only places rugby players start that early are in New Zealand ,South africa and wales where rugby is a religion in ireland though a major sport rugby is not at that level .
She went from “makes you guys look like pansies” to being legitimately concerned
At least no one is allowed to throw a crackback block anymore.
Hahah right
I used to know a man from Australia who used to think that American football players were pansies for wearing pads until he actually seen how big and fast these men are.
@@davester1970 they always doubt American football, until they actually see or experience a hit from a football player. Bet they wasn't talking shit about the padding after that
I was waiting to see how she would react to the hits after she called the players pansies
There is a reason they don't go straight to the NFL from High school. The sheer amount of strength and athleticism needed to play this game is amazing.
They go to college for it. The "farm" teams.
@@kurtsnyder4752 You basically have to. There’s really no other way to get into the NFL other than excelling in college or playing in the Canadian league.
You must be 21 yrs old to play in the NFL. It is against NFL policy that the human body hasn't physically matured enuff to withstand the abuse and injury without permanent damage.
When these clips were recorded, most of them were legal. Like 95% of them were. And yes depending on the ref, you can absolutely smack the living dog mess out of any opponent on the field if they're carrying the call or not. Great reaction BTW!
Edit: You absolutely have to have as much endurance for football. We Polynesian boys that are born and raised here in the US grow up playing both sports. My cousins that move here from the islands kind of look down on football until they play and realize how much physical exertion it demands on the body. Of of those family members that move here and go to the NFL, they would say that there is more running involved for rugby. But football is more of physical battle against another human being. A test of who can outlast who in a grudge match of strength, speed, explosiveness, endurance, tenacity, and so much more. Different dynamic, same type of conditioning. Rugby is a gentleman's game. A contact sport. Football is a sinister game. A collision sport. Best regards!
Your Tongan friend from the States
"are people generally okay?" immediately after the hits, yeah..years after they retire? some of them not so much.
I played American football my whole life and unfortunately we had a player from our high school team die due to head injuries
My Dad played football, defensive tackle, from jr high through college, Navy while in Korea to semi pro. We have a picture of him in Jr High with a leather helmet circa 1943 lookin proud. The toll, his knees were shot he could barely walk before he passed away. He loved ever minute of playing but think he would have loved to have his knees back.
Yea, all those hits to the head seem to be cumulative. Though you said you coached gymnastics. I'd argue Gymnasts, while smaller are objectively WAY tougher than the average football player.
@@tedhaubrich I can see the argument that gymnasts have greater full-body athleticism, but I can't see how they could be "tougher". To toughen one's body up, you have to condition it. Let's take martial arts as an example: fighters can take the hits they do because they get hit. Their bodies have been conditioned through the beatings they receive through sparring, training, and practical application of their techniques. The same logic applies to football players. Of course, football players are not completely inured to the effects of a hard hit, but their bodily conditioning makes them better able to weather one compared to someone who rarely, if ever, takes such impacts on a regular basis.
@@MelodusDethicus I guess if your definition of toughness is how hard you are willing to let someone else smack you over and over you are right. Though getting hit does not condition your body to get hit more. It's not like muscle or even callouses that build up over time. Getting smacked in the head head for the hundredth time is probably MORE damaging than getting hit the first time. But compare that to some of the painful things gymnasts put their own bodies through and I still have to stick with gymnasts being 'tougher'
HER:he didn't even have the ball
ME:It's called a block
Omgggggg literally it’s a blind spot block 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cant tell you how bad I got my bell rung on special teams probably got some brain damage
@@redsnorlax1945 In one game against Navy, I got hit so hard it was like a spiritual experience. Just lay there looking at the sky re-evaluating life because I thought I would die from that hit. It was actually two hits. First was right at my legs putting me in the air and a second guy drilled me into the ground while I was in the air. Third worse pain in my life. First was getting a double catheter taken out without anesthesia (luckily I was unconscious when they put them in). Second was sciatic nerve damage. It took about an hour to move out of bed to go to the restroom because it hurt so bad to move.
@@cobes11 the worst pain i ever had was when i tried playing a game with an infected tooth i took a hit to the head on the first series and i just rolled around in pain for a good 2 minutes and sat the rest of the game...second worse was when my hamstring over extended and snapped during an snow game....just remember it made us better men lol
The "rule" is that if a player's hair is long enough that it reaches the jersey, it's part of the uniform and can be used to pull the player down, therefore it's up to the player to keep their hair short.
The rule was named " The Ricky rule" after Ricky Williams, who came into the league sporting dreadlocks.
Watching troy polamalu getting dragged down from behind by his hair was awesome. I honestly wish it'd happen more often.
5:24 Was that him, with the dreads?
Irish: "American Football has padding, we don't"
Americans: "Yea we can hit people harder then"
@@stzfxn066 American football is very aggressive:)
@@stzfxn066 Yeah but their looking to stop you not end your career
@@ok-rf4dr That is the thing. I played in college and every hit was meant to land the person in the hospital.
@@stzfxn066 The biggest difference is the speed and the head-on angle of attack in American football where guys both in a full sprint basically collide head-on at combined speeds of like 35 mph. It's not to say Rugby isn't physical, I've gotten beat up playing Rugby, that's for sure. But American football is just more violent in the open field because the closing speeds are much higher. In the NFL, these guys are basically 200 lb track stars. Their athleticism is insane.
@@stzfxn066 all that means is rugby players will naturaly be a little smaller to compensate for being better at running for longer. also, that means when rugy players are running, its at a way slower speed in general because they usually arent sprinting. football players are ALWAYS sprinting. like literally always. if you arent sprinting as fast as you can, you are getting pulled out of the game for someone who *will* sprint the entire time. this leads to wayyyy bigger hits in football, in combination with the bigger size of NFL players
I love her so many Europeans think American football is weaker based on having pads which she even mentions at one point. and then right into the compilation some dude gets lit up and shes like “he didn’t even have the ball”
Facts haha
tonyjr Yes i mean there is no sport in europe that allows obstruction,australian rules does to a limited degree ,but obviously australia isn't in europe.
Pads are basically weapons. They know how to hit with helmets in such a way to scrape by legally.
@@galoglaich3281 it's just farther down the skill tree
@@haydenhazelrig4550 whats further down the skill tree
When they hit someone who doesn't have the ball its called blocking. They're preventing them from reaching the guy who has the ball
Compared to European sports, and many other things honestly, it seems very violent and extreme.
Europeans often tend to accuse the US of being pansies until try watch violent sports like US football, see Americans shooting guns, heatedly argueing in politics (and sometimes end up thinking how most Americans would love their calm demeaner if they were there lol), etc. and then they back off (it doesnt apply to everything obiously).
Though when she said that it was t
Tate's hit on Lee which was cheap as fuck.
@@malcolmdrake6137 You are joking, right? Just wanted to make sure
In rugby that's called obstruction
@@erikduplessis7788 when I watched rugby for the first time I was confused why the ball carrier’s teammates were just standing back watching him get tackled. Now that I understand the rules better, I enjoy watching rugby.
i played football in highschool, and rugby in college... i took MUCH harder hits in football
When she said he didn’t have the ball I was like well they still need to keep people from getting the ball
Football was so violent originally that a US president (Teddy Roosevelt) had to step in and be like “yeah new rules so people stop dying”
Some one got hit so hard he had a heart attack and died only Americans can say this isn’t that bad
You know when Teddy Roosevelt is telling you to tone it down...your sport is crazy🤣
@@McNubbys could be improved
@@ssshaggyy5845 Isn't that why they created the XFL.
@@manxgirl the xfl allows a little mor hits but not enough
The “ old NFL “ was more like the movie “ Gladiator “. It’s been toned down if you can believe it.
Same with hockey. There used to be gratuitous twigging, bench brawls, elbowing, and lots of hits to the numbers.
LOL so true 🤣🏈
Yep... when I was coming up, they taught you to use you helmet. The guy with the most paint from the opposing players' helmets was the "bad dude" of the game.
Yeah. A lot of these hits would be illegal.
Yup, one word ... Tatum ...
The worst hits are when the helmet comes off, and the head is still in there.
I look every single time. Always disappointed.
I think you owe it to yourself to rewatch the video at full speed to truly appreciate how violent those hits actually were.
As an American that grew up in Europe I do love when "foreigners" watch American Football for the first time. There is very little comparison between Rugby and American Football whether were talking about the game or the athletes. I played them both through school then moved back to America and played American Football in college. At 6'5" and 285lbs. (just over 1.98m and 130kg for any non-Americans reading this) I absolutely dwarfed all other Rugby players I played against but wasn't close to the biggest player on my college football team. Another thing to consider is that, because the plays are so short, American Football players are trained for very quick, highly-explosive playing styles. This leads to these extremely hard hits that necessitate all the "safety" gear. I'd gladly enjoy a rugby match in no pads rather than a football game in full gear any day of the week. Stay safe everyone. Cheers.
A friend of mine once worked in a company where Monte Coleman, a former star linebacker for the Washington Redskins in the 80s, was a VP. In a normal office setting, Coleman looked like he was built on a different*scale* than the regular humans.
And this was an era before NFL players got REALLY huge. And Coleman was notable as being very small for his position!
I once saw Herschel Walker get off a bus on the UGA campus. The entire bus lofted up like a low-rider car when he cleared the step.
It's definitely a difficult game to explain to people who have never seen the game. Even for those non fans in the states let alone Europe.
King Brutus XXV! you neglected to inform her that no its not legal to spear another player with your helmet if your helmet is targeting their head. Of course you will be flagged and then after the video confirms it you'll be sent to the locker room. She also probably has no idea of what a "Crack back block" is or that you can't target a player's knees, or that you can't horse collar a player, or the illegal use of the hands, or face mask violations, or any of the formational penalties such as illegal formation or illegal motion or pass interference. Frankly though American football seems reasonably straight forward to our American minds I could understand that it might be really confusing to a novice from another country where contact sports are not so predominant other than something like rugby or Australian Rules football that always baffled me.
It seems the one universal contact sport people around the world could and would understand with the same commonality of Americans is boxing, which seems to have inundated the world at some time and who everyone understands the rules to and are fairly simple. A sport which most of the history of many ethnic Americans dominated because it was a great way to rise out of poverty especially for new immigrants to America and always was a venue to escape a tough life for black Americans, but which seems to be challenged these days from a variety of formerly impoverished countries. Like you I am always fascinated by the reaction of foreigners to what is probably the most popular sport in the country.
I played it in high school maybe not with great skill but with all the necessary zeal. I have a pin in my left shoulder to this day from playing flag football when I way in the army over is southeast Asia. I left the ground on an attempt to grab a Navy guy's flag and drove my shoulder into the hard turf which gave me a condition which constantly led to my shoulder coming dislocated. I continued to play for the whole game like a fool only exacerbating the condition and eventually just before my honorable discharge having to have the pin inserted at Fort Bragg. Worse of all we lost the goddamn game.
When i played in Highschool i was 5"11" 248 lbs and ran into my favorite player Anthony Munoz talk about feeling small
It’s more accurate to say, “it’s a house running full speed into a player.”
Or more of “ it’s a barn running full speed into a house” or “a semi running full speed into a pick up truck”
I've heard (the impact of two players striking head to head at full speed) the force is equal to being struck by an auto moving at ? mph! (I'm so sorry that I can no longer recall.... but I think it was like 30+ mph /48.2 kph!) :-O --I cringed when I heard that because I could really relate. When I was a boy, I was struck down my a speeding truck on my pedal bike... Prior to helmet laws! :-D
35 mph car crashes every play
Thats a straight fact
Rugby is like a "group Hug" and American football is a "stop your opponent at any cost" game.
Dude had a mane of dreadlocks, she says "was that a female player?" Lmao. I love it.
This isn't mine, but to share this saying: "Rugby is a contact sport. Football is an IMPACT sport." Two football players collide with energies that are very comparable to a low-to-mid speed car crash when at top speed, which is why they have the padding; unfortunately, this doesn't prevent certain long-term damage (like TBI and CTE) or injuries to unprotected areas like the legs. It can be a very dangerous but fun sport
Actually, as there has been more “impact” instead of truly tackling in the NFL, the padding has become smaller and there are fewer pads. Most players no longer wear any padding on their legs and hips, shoulder pads are much, much smaller and less protective and helmets absorb more shock but aren’t much different than they were 40 years ago. It is a far more dangerous game today as a result and it is played as more of a brutish contest of thugs than a skilled sport, at least from the point of view of the defense. Football was a much, much netter game in the 60’s and 70’s even though it was less sophisticated. Give me Lombardi any day over Belicik.
Thank you!! Nicely said.
Pansies??!! Do you believe that sh*t???
Zach, well said. Rugby supporters don't understand the pads actually enable the tremendous collisions. The Rugby games I have seen the blows are more glancing. They don't purposely drive their heads or shoulders into the opposing player to hurt them.
I think I heard it was like the impact of a 20 or 25mph car crash
And while rugby requires a lot of endurance, football is a series of all-out sprints for short periods of time.
General rule: You can hit anyone below the head and in the front of the body any time. Many of these hits were legal until just recently.
Unprotected or leading with the head but you can hit the head
And also some refs are pussies and just can’t handle a clean huge hit
@@colinvoigt8309 the refs being pussy is why these guys aren’t dying at 45.
@@TheIcemanthomas a clean hit is a clean hit, if it’s anything with the crown of the helmet or anything dirty to intentionally harm a player after the play is over then that’s when we take action
@@TheIcemanthomas I’m a high school football player so Ik what it’s like to take a huge hit, trust me, Ik some of those hits are clean and some that are just downright dirty
The expression on the Lady's face when the little kids were tackling was CLASSIC!!!!
I love how the game is so confusing to them and how its so brutal. 🤣
American football: high speed, high impact.
The truth
american football: try injure eachother in the worst way possible
American football is ok yes it's fast pace some what boring cause it looks rigged
High Speed?? I live 15 mins from work. I got in the car and it was almost the 2 minute warning. I drove home said hi the the wife and kids and still caught the last few plays on TV.
@@Beagslie76 and a player or more is injured every game or every weeks in the first week 5 or so players where injured off the bat!
One of the biggest differences in American football and Rugby:
Rugby, not everybody is going 100% the whole time. Only 2-3 players are going full force at a time.
American football, every player is going 100% full force every play.
Thats because a game takes twice as long to play
Yes, plays happening in short bursts instead of over prolonged periods of time and the constant personnel changes of the modern era of football.
Reason: more strategy in American football than any sport ever played.
@@chrisphillips1114 That's not why. These guys are the best athletes in the world. Joe Thomas, a LT, competed against cross-fit contestants (one was a world runner up) and dominated ... after like 15 years of playing, with no training, after losing a ton of weight, with no knees.
He described the long cross fit games as being as tiring as a single nfl snap.
@@chrisphillips1114 that maybe true, but NFL game lengths are controlled differently. Depending on your defense it could be the shortest hour of your life or the longest. Never mind penalties, which add downs to drives, and plays.
You can't slow it down to half speed and appreciate it fully.
In most cases the guys got up and continued playing. Some of these hits are documenting major injuries, some career ending. Rules have changed over the years because prolonged trauma to the head has shed light on many problems that were over looked for decades.
Most accurate description. “Like full speed running into a house.”
Yep, we've even had players nicknamed "The Fridge" and "The Bus".
Or a wall that says watt or Mack
Yeah, I think that was the moment it started to make sense for her
@@mattd3978 - Go ahead and throw some pads on that house. If you run into it at full speed, it's still gon' hurt. Even worse if that house falls down on top of you!
Literally. Look up Hall of Famer Bronko Nagurski, the definition of a fullback, & the story of his hardest hit.
“makes you look like pansys” “oh i see why they have the pads now”😂😂
Did she just call the "Pads" Pods?
You're spot on with the different physicalities of American Football and Rugby players. Rugby guys (I assume) train like soccer players, preparing to run for hours, tons of strength training as well. American footballers train for raw power, short bursts of speed, and the endurance to make it through the game. As for the hits, helmet to helmet contact has always been a no-go, but pads to helmet was always fine until recently with the new findings about the deep psychological damage repeated concussions leave (RIP Junior Seau). Also, I always get a bit of a rise when someone say Rugby is the most violent sport, as an American it makes me laugh in American Football and Hockey. You see those hits, sure Rugby hits are super hard but it's not every minute the ball is moving...and forget Hockey, that's just murder with ice skates on.
Edit: Funny side note: I'm an Philadelphia Eagles fan (American Football) and a ton of those real nasty, boarderline illegal hits were us. We don't play nice and we are also quite infamous for being the most angry, unruly fans in the game. Heck one year, near Christmas, we were losing pretty bad, halftime (Mid-Game 15 intermission) show was Santa who walked out waving to everyone and was immediately destroyed by snowballs (I hate that incident btw).
what do you mean not every minute the ball is moving, yes it is and tackles are made almost every time the ball is passed (no disrespect to NFL, I am not saying rugby is tougher)
i must admit i had to laugh more than once at your surprised reaction to some of these hits. not in a bad way, but just in your surprise. i watch it every weekend during the football season and played for 9 years as a kid so i just take it for granted. i even broke a collar bone running a kick off back for a touchdown. i scored so it was all good.
in most cases after a big hit you get up and go back for the next play. your ready for the hits and playing hard. it's when you dont play full speed but slow down and relax that you are more likely to be hurt.
Jennings: after these hits the people legitimately look like they don’t where they are
Me: that’s cause they actually don’t know where they are
They don't know who what when or why they are either
I’ve gotten hit and my helmet was completely sideways, one of my teammates had to almost walk me off the field I was so messed from that hit.
Great job succinctly explaining a very complex game. If you really want to teach somebody about football have them play Madden.
Lmao glad to know I wasn’t the only one thinking the same exact thing
Hey just wait a couple of decades. Then you'll start to remember every hit. Especially on the cold mornings.
Hitting a person in the head, and leading with your head when tackling has become illegal, due to the problems with concussions. Most of those tackles are still completely legal. I played from 3rd grade through 8th grade. I loved every minute!
Someone must have said it but incase it wasn't mentioned no you can't touch someone's facemask during a tackle. It's a 15 yard penalty in the NFL. I haven't watched gridiron football since the concussion age started so there are probably suspensions and whatnot if you intentionally grab someone by the facemask in this day in age. Or not, I dunno.
Mark knows better than me but diane is unclear.
Great answer.
Leading with your head has been illegal for a long time. It was banned not because of concussions, but because of the hitter chancing a broken neck. Several players were paralyzed.
@Sandman Huffmaster Technically you didn't have to quit
@Sandman Huffmaster Yeah I know what you were getting at I wouldn't be able to play here either due to concussion issues but I never told them about 3 of mine so I could still play. My thing right now though is even at my age for how young I am my knee is nowhere near stable enough to play anymore after blowing it apart twice.
The first thing my high school coach taught us was you always need to hit full speed and you need to face the hit and counter the force with force. When you back away or try to pull back is when you get seriously hurt. I remember having a few “stingers” but for the most part I managed to avoid a lot of serious injuries. Of course, my forearms were purple from August until December and my fingers were swollen like unbendable bratwursts until Easter. I enjoyed playing defense and my coach loved to put me in with just one instruction. “Make that whining quarterback not want to take another snap.” We always made sure the back of his uniform was unreadable. 😁
Damn right
I have broke my shoulder when I took a midair blindside hit and had 500+ lbs. land on me
I was playing middle lb and I saw a gap open,so I went to shoot the gap but what I didn't see was a 6'4 235 lb. absolute unit of a rb come from the left side and he just rocked my shit, I broke my right wrist
Great video. Well rounded and fun to watch.
It's also really important to note that the league wide average size for all players is like 6'3" 265 lbs. They don't just hit harder than rugby, the players are larger and a lot of the times, faster.
And the short nature of plays means American football players are trained for quick, explosive, and insanely hard hitting attacks
@@mercutiogonzales2634 Not to mention the tactical nature of Football. The Coach is the Strategist, the QB the Field Commander. Offensive Line are your Shocktroops. D-line are self-explanatory.
And American football athletes are in far better shape than Rugby players.
In America we have a special saying: "If it doesn't kill you, we won't watch it"
True
Please explain MLB then....well yeah you can die of old age before the game is done.
@@ytubesuxshite4497 if you get hit in the head hard enough you can have brain hemorrhaging or a concussion/memory loss and etc.
@@shyryTsr2k after playing catcher for 15 years, this has never happened in a game I played....the likelihood of that is literally like getting hit by lightning.....actually I think you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning.
@@ytubesuxshite4497 your experiences differ from those whom are around you.
I have seen several reactions of Americans commenting on rugby. What they do is start off focusing on hits. This is a good reply to them and it shows what the American mindset is.
I lost it laughing out loud when she said the padding part.
So I played in a pretty competitive high school team as a linebacker. I was 6’2 and about 245lbs at the time with less than 10% body fat. And I could do the 40 yard dash in 5 seconds, averaged 3.5 sacks a game and that was not good enough to go to a D1 school for football. So to answer your question. No you cannot be out of shape and be in the nfl. Most of those 300lb lineman are faster than your fastest rugby players. They’re freaks of nature.
True dis!
I worked in a medical building that had a doctor for the Seattle Seahawks. The first time one of the defensive players came in, my coworker and I were convinced that we were having an earthquake. And then the player walked by. My thought was the only thing to call him was "sir".
it's arguable that the type of conditioning is different. Training for power is more what NFL players do. Full on endurance training would counter that a bit.
@@luis4722 conditioning for repeat sprints is different than conditioning like an endurance athlete is all I'm saying. I was a track guy in high school and college. Getting speed endurance and true endurance are different in terms of how you train. A lot of what a football player goes through is VERY different than a soccer player for instance. You get subbed in and out more frequently in football. You don't play both offense and defense. So you are geared far more towards being able to explode multiple times on short rest than pushing through a long slog
@@luis4722 there is a lot of stoppage in the NFL because of commercials.
When I was playing football in the army I was hit hard and went spinning through the air. The world was spinning around me andI looked up. I was surprised to see the sky turned green. It was then I realized I was upside-down.
Sarge, why is the sky green? Cause private your upside down...
Trust me you aren't the only that got trucked. We all did at tackling drills.
We played a game called "kill the guy with the ball" in 1st grade. We played on an asphalt parking lot you had to move the ball as far as you can and everyone tries to tackle you. I broke my arm and the bone was sticking out running into a bike rack. They still let us play behind the church.
I loved that game. I tried to explain it to my wife and she didn't get it.
We played Kill the Man with the Ball when I was a kid. It was like a combination of rugby, American football, Aussie Rules, and attempted homicide.
I love the reference "running full speed into a house" one that we use around here for getting tackled by a larger player is " getting ran over by a coke machine with legs"
On football rules: It is super important to know that the rules have changed wildly depending on the era you are watching.
For example, in a black and white clip, there was a quarterback pulled down backwards by his facemask. This is definitely NOT legal today, nor has it been for a while.
Lowering the head to use the helmet as a weapon, called "spearing," was outlawed relatively recently. Hits directly to the head have been illegal for a while, but it's important to watch closely; many hits that initially look like they went right to the head or that cause the helmet to come off are actually impacting in the area of the shoulders.
Hits off the ball are allowed; generally, they are blocking for the ball carrier. There are some very specific rules about when you can block and how (for example, if your non-ball carrier is already engaged with one person, you aren't allowed to come in and hit him in the knees, and you can't "block" from behind -- that's more or less a tackle.)
Some of the hits in this clip selection are definitely not legal, though most were. For example, there was one that was clearly a punt returner (holding his arms out ahead of him, looking up in the air for the ball) who got hammered well before the ball arrived. Generally, any time after the ball arrives is fair game, but before is considered unfairly targeting a player who cannot reasonably be expected to defend himself. Likewise, at least in the modern game, receivers who are trying to catch a thrown football are not considered fair game until after they at least touch the ball, meaning that defenders often want to time their hit to the split second after to disrupt the play -- those can be some of the most devastating hits to watch.
With regard to the question of endurance, it's a different sort of physical experience. Football is extremely explosive -- it requires a full 100% maximum effort for 10-15 seconds at a time approximately 80 times over the course of three hours. And by maximum effort, I mean trying to push a car uphill as hard as humanly possible, and then getting hit with a 2x4. In NFL games, you can definitely see players on the sideline dripping with sweat and sucking oxygen to re-invigorate themselves.
Also, Diane made a comment early on about how it seemed that the protective gear almost seemed to enable worse behavior -- not the only person to make this comment! Especially with the helmets, in regard to spearing. It's also important to note that these are some of the worst hits; helmets don't come off that often, most hits are not as brutal, and even in the cases of these hits, I recognize many of them, and most of the people got up and played on. But I'm not sure all of them did.
Anyways, thanks for this fun reaction! (And to anyone reading all the way through this, kudos.)
"You can see players on the sidelines sweating and sucking in oxygen"
Yeah, that's also if the weather's being kind or they're in a controlled environment, otherwise they could dying of heat stroke during a heat wave, freezing their butts off in cold or stormy weather, not to mention other instances of extreme weather
@@wiredtardis one of my favorite memories of watching a Bills game, was watching either the Miami Dolphins players or the LA/Oakland/Las Vegas Raiders standing around the heaters with those huge stadium coats on freezing because they had to come to Buffalo in December (this was in the Jim Kelly era)
Smashingly splendid comment mate. (I'm American, just trying to sound like Nigel from "The Wild Thornberrys". lol.) You articulated everything very well. I hope your comment gets the attention that if deserves.
This is well put, as an America, I agree with this. Some of these plays where illegal and where called for it.
Very well said.
Final comment on your questions: Yes, American Football DOES feature a lot of what you would call "stopping and starting" but that is not generally because of the violent hits (though there are a lot of stoppages for injury as you might expect from watching this). The main reason those more familiar with rugby and "soccer" tend to think American football is disjointed is because the rules of the game center around the offense receiving 4 timed "downs." In that series of downs, the team will run a set of plays (similar to set pieces in soccer or rugby, though generally more intricate in design and nature). The goal is to move the ball 10 yards from the original line of scrimmage (if you take penalties or negative yards, you still have to get 10 yards from the original starting point). If you manage this in those 4 downs, you receive another 4 downs to do the same. Therefore, with a successful series of plays strung together, a team moves down the field, with the ultimate goal of crossing the goal line for a Touchdown (6 points + 1 with a successful "extra point" kick that is granted for scoring a touchdown OR +2 for the less attempted, more risky "2 point conversion" option where the team gets one untimed down to get past the goal line from the 2 yard line). Basically, most teams, if they score a touchdown, kick the extra point (which is like a 95% conversion rate), but "go for 2" when they have to (if the score dictates). If the team runs out of downs (gets to 4th down without gaining another set of downs) and they are realistically in range to do so, they will usually attempt a "field goal" which is a kick attempted on one of their "downs" (usually 4th down, as you would generally attempt to "convert a first down" or score a touchdown if you had any downs left).
While that's a lot of information, I hope it shows somewhat how and why the game seems like it "stops and starts." When you watch long enough, you will recognize that a LOT goes on between "plays" (the set piece like action taken on each "down"), as the game is all about analyzing the opposing team's strategy and formations to predict what they will do and then executing the correct play to counter/exploit their weaknesses...AND having the players of the right skills and abilities on the field to execute the play. In short, American Football is much more "Full contact CHESS" than it is like any other sport.
On the fitness question: It depends on the position and players. Most positions in football are FAR more specialized than almost any other sport. Some require near constant running and speed similar to soccer or rugby players, others focus much more on strength and short bursts of explosive violence. The latter are often very large men who play on the Offensive or Defensive "lines" (think front line hand to hand combat) while the others are freed up by these human behemoths to execute faster, quicker more "athletic" displays and are therefore, often called "skill positions" (though anyone who has watched top level lineman play understand their skillsets are equally as impressive...if not as easily recognizable).
Finally, there are no limitations on numbers of substitutions in American football and, in fact, multiple players are often substituted in between each play (down) both to keep fresh players on the field and because individual players are specialized for specific roles and individual plays are designed for that. There is a timer between plays that starts when one ends and if the offense does not get substitutions in, the play called (the quarterback in the NFL has a radio in his helmet where the play is called by the coaches) and the ball snapped (play started) within that time limit (40 seconds in the NFL, 25 in amateur football) the team takes a 5 yard penalty and the play clock is restarted. Because of this time between each play, there is a constant shuffling of players in and out of the game, which can be very confusing to new viewers of the game.
And there you go, probably way more information than you ever cared to know about American football, but I love your reactions, so...thought I'd try to answer the questions! Also, can you react to Hurling for us? lol
I would like the Hurling reaction, too. I've seen a reaction to it and I just don't understand it...lol
Thank you for explaining downs and 2pt conversions! I am always so lost!
Good job sir
Except the linemen have to chase down guys much more agile. Those big guys are really fast too...Faster than anybody in this commeny section no doubt.
@@bradkirchhoff3751 Yeah, people don't usually understand their athleticism. The Kansas City Chiefs have a 300+ lineman who can do a backflip from a standstill. It's wild.
Oh my bads you brought it up further on in the video 😁 great reaction looking forward to more
I like the dog in the background, hes not sure if he should sleep there or stretch out on the ground, ha ha.
'Your games go on for a really long time' Blame the advertisers and commercials.
“ pansies”
“Jeezus” “that legal?”
Love this video
"Just rub a little dirt on it kid, and get back in the game"
"There ain't no crying in football!"
Everything you need to know.
People have had their careers ended from their legs and ankles bending and snapping the wrong way. Like literally snapping backwards
Two words: Joe Theismann
“Are people generally okay?”
No.
No, they are not.
Lol, define ok
Generaly, yes.
Often, no.
I mean they do get up and finish the game usually. They will die before they're fifty like wrestlers do but it's all fun and games right?
@FantomOmega they know what they signed up for!
The average length of a running back’s career is four years.
Players who have been hit hard try not to show it, to avoid giving satisfaction to the tackler.
Yes. American sports are very hard on the bodies. Thats why NFL stands for Not For Long.
Lol
LOL
Guess Brady didn’t get the message
Po woodworker rugby is still a game you can play amateur until your forty ,because it only became pro in 1995 .Back then the game was much less physical because obviously people had to go to work the next day ,but slowly but surely it is developing into a game that finishes around 30 because the game has become very collisional
Diane, American Football Players are much bigger, stronger, and faster which makes their collisions that much scarier! That’s why they MUST wear helmets and have additional padding!
I thought it was adorable when she asked “was that a female player?”
No lol nooooooo it was not
When you said "Is that a female player?" I died laughing!😂😂
🤣😂🤣
Lingerie league!
@@kylrean3891 Are you asserting that a member of the misogynist "Lingerie League" may have stumbled on the field of an NFL game?🤔😜
Lol nope dear lady that is the next NFL shampoo commercial candidate
For all the rude comments, its called locs or dreads, common hairstyle in the black community
I played American Football in High school. Even with the padding those hits hurt a lot. The shock is absorbed into the pads and it adds even more pain and stress to the body. Trust me, the padding might make us look like wimps but we definitely are not wimps.
It DOES NOT make you look like wimps. Anyone that knows anything about this game knows that. The padding is absolutely necessary to protect you.
www.the42.ie/concussion-american-football-3179351-Jan2017/
@@DocIdaho what's your point
Playing for 5-10 sec at a time makes you look like wimps
Physics disagrees. The shock absorbed into pads does just that-it absorbed it so you don’t feel as much. Same as a car crash, reduces felt recoil. The hits pack a punch but definitely don’t add more pain.
Your facial reactions are hilarious 🤣
The pads do provide a level of protection, however it's more valid to say that the pads allow for players to go full force into their hits that rugby players wouldn't risk
All I can say about American football is WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME
“If at least 5 bones are not broken by the end of the, game, then they weren’t hitting hard enough.”
When the players run into and/or knock down an opponent without the ball, it’s called a block. You block someone in order to keep them away from your ball carrier.
Recent changes do not allow hits to the head of a “defenseless” player - such as a receiver attempting to catch the ball or a quarterback looking to pass the ball. Another recent rule change (Targeting) doesn’t allow tacklers to initiate contact with the top of the helmet or to initiate a helmet to helmet collision on a “defenseless” player.
The stopping and starting of the AF game is due to the game’s concept of distinct “downs”. A team’s offense has 4 downs in which to advance the line of scrimmage 10 or more yards. Advancing beyond 10 yards, grants the team a new set of downs. It gives them them a “First Down”. Same thing.
You maintain control of the ball as long as you keep making first downs before you run out of them. Most of the time, teams will punt the ball downfield on 4th down., rather than turnover control of the ball where they have stalled.
Collisions in football, the hitting, occurs on every play. Having played football for several years (8th grade thru 4 years of college) I can tell you that nothing really prepares your body for the hitting.
You can run, practice & lift weights, but nothing compares to actual hitting in getting you ready for a season. Every player & former player here has memories of feeling like they had been in a series of major automobile accidents for the first 2 to 3 weeks of every season. These first practices are held during Summer Camp (Football Camp) when you get 2 or 3 practices in per day. Everyone is sore & “stove up” for the first few weeks. Then you get use to it.
Size matters in football - the bigger & heavier you are the harder you can hit. And the easier it is to take hits.
With that said, speed is always an advantage. Speed increases the force when hitting… or allows you to avoid being hit or tackled.
Vince Lombardi (Legendary Football Coach) famously said…
“ Football is NOT a contact sport. Dancing is s contact sport. Football is a Hitting sport.)
It’s a beautiful game. Strategy is important. So is Preparation. Conditioning, speed, strength, size, coordination, aggressiveness, hard work, mental toughness, physical toughness, courage, & the will to win are all key factors & virtues.
Last things.
Love your channel. Just found it.
And AF is played on a “field” rather than a “pitch”.
I think that the differences in language among English speaking nations are extremely interesting.
Idea for an episode. I know the long struggles between Kings & Churches shaped a lot of things in Irish history & culture.
Tell us about how Irish folks think of Scots-Irish, many of whom settled in Appalachia & later in the midWest & Western States. I’m guessing that they were Celtic people, too. They didn’t seem to like being ruled by the English. They came here long before the later waves of Irish Catholic immigrants.
My DNA report said that I’m 38% Irish. I’m assuming that means Celtic as I do t know of any Irish ancestors. Both sides of my family have been in the US farther than any family records go.
The rest of my DNA is English except 1% Subsaharan African & 4% North African. I assume the North African (Berber) ancestry is from Slavers or Pirates. Not many Berbers have immigrated to the US.
Who knows?
Anyway that you would like to address Irish history as it relates to the US would be fine.
Thanks!
Helmet to helmet hits are no longer legal as of like 2015, but hitting people without the ball is just called blocking it helps the ball carrier get further down the field.
I'll try to address some of your questions the best I can:
Cardio fitness: this is one of the least important elements of American football conditioning. The game is played in short, violent, anaerobic bursts. It is not fluid like rugby, Gaelic football, or association football (soccer). That is not to say that gridiron players are unfit. Think of it as the difference between training for a triathlon versus training for the Olympic 100m dash. No one would ever call Usain Bolt unfit, but he certainly doesn't have the cardio endurance of a triathlete or competitive cyclist. He trains for a different purpose. As one who played both gridiron and association football, I can state categorically that both are extremely draining.
Positions: these are not precise parallels, but they may be a helpful frame of reference...
Linemen - roughly the equivalent of rugby forwards. They are the largest, most powerful players, score the least often by far, and are generally the slowest players on the field.
Tight ends and linebackers - roughly equivalent to rugby flankers or Number 8s. They are hybrid athletes who can run well in open space, yet are large and strong enough to handle themselves with the biggest players on the field.
Running backs/defensive backs - rugby fullbacks. Very fast and elusive.
Wide receivers - similar to rugby wingers. Like backs, they are very speedy and often play on the far offensive perimeter.
Quarterback - no real rugby equivalent. By far the most important individual player. The entire attack flows through him. The best comparison I can muster would be a basketball point guard or association football Number 10.
Starts/stops: it helps a newcomer who is familiar with association football, to consider a gridiron game to be a series of set pieces. Every play has a strategy, the goal of which is to overload the opposition or bait them into bad decisions. Our word "scrimmage" is a corruption of the rugby term "scrum". Every play is effectively like a scrum, albeit more elaborate and with more permutations of result.
Do the helmets obscure vision? - yes, but you get used to it. Players who spend time in open space and rely more upon sharp visual acuity and peripheral vision tend to smaller, less intricate facemasks. These are sometimes called "quarter cages" or "half cages". Linemen or other players who spend most of their time in tight space wear more elaborate face masks, sometimes called "three quarter cages" or "full cages".
Football hitting and tackling: every offensive/attacking player, not in possession of the ball is theoretically responsible for blocking a defender, or acting as a decoy to remove a potential defender. There are rules governing blocking, but the collisions can easily be as violent as tackles, if not more so.
Tackles: many of the tackles in the video are actually horrible from a standpoint of technique. Ideally, a football tackle and a rugby tackle are similar if not identical. Make contact with the ball carrier, wrap the arms, place the head on the ball side, drive the man to the ground. On certain occasions, defenders are called upon to separate the attacker from the ball (contesting a pass as it is being caught, for example). Otherwise, if you're not wrapping up, a coach who is a stickler for fundamentals will be displeased.
Protective gear - you are correct. Helmets and pads actually encourage violence because players fear broken noses, cranial fractures, and wrecked shoulders less than they otherwise would without them. The pads and helmets do nothing for collapsed lungs, broken ribs, lacerated kidneys, wrecked knees, and concussions. There is a small but vocal minority who advocate the abolition of facemasks in order to encourage a return to proper, and safer tackling. Some rugby experts are sometimes hired in order to teach rugby style tackling.
Gridiron football is a horrifically violent game, mostly because of the way it is played. High speed collisions occur by design. Players at the university and professional level are enormous, the largest sometimes eclipsing 2 meters tall and 150 kg in weight. The fastest players are easily as quick and explosive as world class Olympic sprinters. Example: gridiron foot speed is typically measured by the 40 yard dash. The fastest players run that distance from a dead start in about 4.2 seconds. Usain Bolt covered the same distance in 4.22 seconds when he ran his world record 100 meters.
I would disagree with you on tackling (and coaches being displeased). As a former defensive back, even in the 80s, coaches taught proper tackling technique to the linebackers but the DBs were taught to shake the ball loose. In recent years in the NFL, you see the culmination of that teaching with DBs ripping or punching the ball (Charles "Peanut" Tillman had a career year doing that) instead of wrapping up. While textbook tackling is ideal, many modern coaches teach timely hitting and ripping (or punching) the ball loose as more of a priority. Gotta create as many takeaways as possible.
@@Remianen
That's why I stipulated "on certain occasions, players are instructed to separate the offensive player from the ball", rather than perform a correct form tackle.
Still, I am personally of the opinion that sports highlight segments ("ESPN Top Ten Plays" is the most egregious offender) are responsible for a lot of poor fundamental play. Players want to see themselves light someone up on the jumbotron or on Sports Center, rather than simply do things correctly.
I'm old fashioned, in that respect. I admire the players who don't care about flash, glitz, or calling attention to themselves. Jerry Rice, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Mike Singletary, etc.
Rice, in particular, was unbelievable. *Everything* he did was perfect. Training, diet, work ethic, route running, leadership by example, ball security.... all perfect.
Randy Moss was probably the greatest athletic freak ever to play wide receiver, but I'll take 1 Jerry Rice over 10 Randy Mosses.
Excellent summary of the game. Many see the brutality but fail to see the strategy and tactics involved in the game. If you just follow the ball, you're missing most of the story.
Excellent summary Kent.
This was a great breakdown
Diane: 6:48 "you see.....Jesus!"
Me: Yeah, after hits like that, you'd probably see Jesus.
Saw a lot of stars, never did see Jesus.
Yes in American Football or the NFL, you can hit the head/upper body because it is the easiest way to bring down the opponent. And in when playing football your team mates will defend who ever has the ball by tackling other players on the opposite team, while the opposite team is trying to tackle or stop the player who has the football. I hope this made sense!
Hello Diane. If you ever visit our great country, I highly recommend you do so during the Autumn. And while over here, please pay a visit to a typical American sports bar on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. Good luck and God bless.
It isn't so much "stop and start" as much as it is "scrape the unconscious body off the grass and move on"
It's stop and start because you advance down the field by 4 tries (downs) every 10 yards. So in those 4 tries, if you gain 11 yards, you get a new set of 4 tries (downs). The stopping and starting is because every play is meticulously planned out. There is a lot less improvisation in the American football.
Well play does stop after punts.
@@kevinloving3141 = And kickoffs ... but, hey ... Networks gotta get that ad revenue.
Are people generally okay? No! Concussions are a huge problem and serious brain damage is a concern/risk of every player.
Look up cte for the effects to the brain but alot of changes have been made to how the game is played now. It remains to be seen how this will affect current players.
@@JohnFourtyTwo A helmet inevitably won't do much against the acceleration a brain is exposed to once the head has been hit. As always, it's the invisible bruises that count but get ignored or side-lined.
They are generally okay, play to play, game to game. Dianne is watching a "Hardest Hits" reel.
Yes, it is a dangerous game, but people don't get hurt every play or even every game. Usually, even in high school, a starting player can expect some significant injury at least once a season. That goes up a lot, as you go to college level and then to the professional level, but I think Dianne is asking, if it's every play.
@@_vinterthorn = Actually, though, it is estimated that up to 75% of concussions
in football, do not occur from the direct hit to the head, but rather, the contact
with the ground after the hit.
@@JohnFourtyTwo Pads have increased the danger of the game. They give safety to the aggressor. If there were less padding there would be fewer hard hits.
Michael Bennet started wearing kickers pads because he could move faster. He found that he stopped hitting guys so hard because it would hurt his own body. He adjusted his style and became a more sure tackler. Learning to rely on the tackle, not the big hit.
Padding does very little to prevent injury. The helmet helps somewhat with not getting dinged too hard in the head but can also be used as a weapon (although illegal). The knee pads help when landing on a knee so the players aren't playing with skinned up knees all the time. The shoulder pads might help prevent a shoulder separation. Other than that, we've had players killed, paralyzed for life, hearts stop from being hit too hard, players with internal injuries, concussions, and all kinds of horrific leg breaking and other injuries. Statistically Rugby and American football have roughly a similar number of injuries.
Ms. Jennings, the point of playing defense is to intimidate the offensive player. It didn't matter if it was a lineman, a receiver, a running back etc. You made them start looking for your number. You broke their concentration. They weren't playing football anymore, they were playing "where's #51".
😂😂😂😂 YO IT BE LIKE THAT!!!!!!
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@@danepurciful7164 He's why I wore 51!
I'm just an observer, but yeah, you can see from the stands that psyching the other guy out is a big part of the game, and there's just enough time between plays to ramp that tension up.
@@eksortso yeah, then the tension blows over which leads to fights
True Story: The violence predates the pads, the pads didn't exacerbate the problem. One year so many players *died* on the field that they decided they needed to start wearing pads and that's where the pads and helmets come from. So why do they wear the pads? So that fewer men die.
Helmets were ordered by a president because men were dying on the field.
This. Literally.
ain't there a movie about it? where some doc tried convincing whoever was in charge of football stuffs to enforce helmets, but those assholes tried to silence the doc, so he went to the highest level he could (the president) to resolve the matter?
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 Probably and there is also a movie about medical conditions you can get from concussions despite the helmet that they were trying to suppress.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 That was to make helmets even safer. Pads and helmets were around and people *were still dying*
I’m a wide receiver in American football and if someone is running with the ball by you your supposed to hit the player trying to tackle so he can’t . And we have helmets so that is why we can hit above the head
American football has adopted a "concussion protocol" which has reduced a lot of the brain-damage injuries due to "head shots". Head shots were legal before the protocol was implemented. From what I understand, rugby adopted concussion protocol before American football did. There is another type of hit which has been outlawed in American football, which has reduced injuries. Tackling, by going for the knees, is no longer permitted. There was a vicious type called a "double chop block" where the ball carrier was hit in the abdomen by the opposing player, just a second before the teammate of the opposing player hit the ball carrier's knees. Obviously, you can have a career-ending injury and this type of tackling has not been permitted for a long time. But then a "single chop block" was legal until just a few years ago. That was where the ball carrier's knees were targeted.
Fun Fact: Padding came into play in the late 1910's or early 1920's because it got so bad that in a single game 3 players died. So they revised the rules and made it mandatory to wear protection.
Also, you can't tackle people without the ball, but you can "block" them, meaning move them away from where the ball carrier or passer wants to be or go. It ends up looking a lot like tackling, but it's more like scrum pushing than tackling.
Dear Diane, I just saw your
noticed it is from 2 years ago. Hopefully someone answered your questions already. Just in case, rugby is by far the safer sport. Why? A play in American Football is usually 6 seconds or less. Then the teams get nearly 15 to 30 seconds of rest. They are ready to go hard for another 6 seconds again. Additionally, American Football has players for offense and different players for defense. This allows half the team to get a few minutes of rest before going back on to the field. I have played both sports. I will try to explain from personal experience. In both sports I was foolish enough to jump as high as I could to catch the ball coming towards me. Rugby had the opposing player grabbing my legs and pulling me down while twisting my body to have the ball on his side. American Football the opposing player literally ran through my legs causing to look like a helicopter before it blows up. I was spinning around while being flipped over. The hit in rugby turns into a scrum to secure control of the ball while teammates set up their wing. The players hope to get the ball but are prepared to play defense. American Football I had the wind knocked out of me. I still had the ball, I did not turn it over, but I did come out of the game for a couple of plays to catch my breath. Then I was back in the game.
Rugby looks more violent, but isn't. Rugby players start at 100% but as the game goes on they are down to 80% halfway through the 1st have, and close to 60% by halftime. The lack of padding, the bloody noses, and bruises just helps it look more terrifying. American Football has less blood seen through the game. The pads and uniforms cover up nearly the whole body. If you feel tired you can come out of the game, and a substitute will go in till you are ready again.
As for the hits to the head, they are illegal, but it depends on the situation. As players get close, it is natural to lower your head to absorb the hit. Launching yourself into a player's head is illegal and can get you suspended for the remainder of the game. But initial hitting into the chest, and then rising up into the head is legal. You attempted to make contact into a legal area, where you go afterwards is a continuous action. Many of those hits you saw on the video were legal 20+ years ago. Try watching game from the 70s when closlining was legal. In the 60s the Kansas City Chiefs had a player break opposing players helmet by striking just above the face mask. Oh, and the face mask was a single bar, not like they have today.
if you watch it with live audio you can hear some of these hits (the plastic of the pads / helmets colliding) with a camera a mile in the sky
Up until about 5 years ago head to head hits were legal. I was actually taught in junior high school to use my helmet as a weapon
We called it "spearing."
@@jimsheppard6726 I think I remember something like that to
@@jimsheppard6726 spearing was one of the most bullshit things and was a major reason why I left the game. It fucking hurts and is dangerous af, and I knew that at 8 years old but nobody else did. And it wasn’t an official penalty in peewee when I was playing in 06-07 so it just happened all the time, though we were never TAUGHT to do that
@@Balin_James I am sorry that you are offended by my mention of what was, in my day, a legal tactic. I was in high school in the early sixties. Things have changed a lot over the years. The biggest thing is the attention paid to possible concussions. Everybody who played has had his "bell rung" at some time and long time players at the pro level have suffered severe limitations in their quality of life after multiple recurrences.
@@jimsheppard6726 Oh, I wasn’t offended, I was expressing my disdain for what is an extremely dangerous and unnecessarily painful tactic, usually for both people involved. That was it. I understand it was a very prominent part of the game, and that’s fine, I can’t change the past. I’m just glad it’s no longer there, at least legally
"Does the game stop after a big tackle?" ... only if the player is napping after the hit, other wise, nope, clock is still winding get up get to the line and go again.
Lol I wonder how many non football ppl got that.
The clock doesn't stop, but the play does in the sense she means. The teams line up at the new ball position to start the next play.
Only if the player is napping after the hit. That’s funny af
A Rugby play doesn't stop just because you were tackled.
Like she said, they are all fat so they need 2 minutes of rest after 2 seconds of running. Sometimes the clock stops, sometimes it doesn't. Downs. You're not allowed to rip the ball from someone and keep running. You can only pass it to one player. A team can burn 40 seconds of the clock and not be penalized, so teams celebrate before the whistle blows. Sometimes there is injury time, sometimes there isn't.
This is the most confusing and inconsistent sport on the planet.
Rugby is no where near the violence of American football
Diane I am an American and played football when I was young . Since you seem to know a lot about Rugby ; I would appreciate you showing a match and commenting on it !
Those aren’t pads Diane, they’re wearable weapons.
Fun Fact Teddy Roosevelt was involved in safety reforms in the early days of football
He threatened to ban football in the US if they couldn't keep the number of game related deaths down. They had been averaging almost one dead body per game, but the rule changes got it down to only four that season, so we kept football. (Thank you, Uncle John's Bathroom Reader for interesting but useless information!)
Your next trip to American needs to be in the fall if you want to get the full American football experience. I HIGHLY suggest catching a game in Texas, in the South, Ohio, Pennsylvania, or even watching a Notre Dame game in Indiana.
scmcguire53 I would take someone curious about US Football to an Army-Navy game. Not as dominant as the teams of the 40s, but spirit of the game at its best.
@@dcn4real completely agree, whether it’s played in Baltimore or Philly.
@@scmcguire53 Decent seats are so expensive at the big schools though. Spend $10-20 bucks and see a high school or small college game.
The answer to "Are people generally ok" is sadly, no. People get very badly hurt playing this game pretty much constantly. One of the strongest deciding factors for team success is health. That's why football teams are so large, it is expected that players will be badly hurt and unable to play, so you need replacements.
Having played both, Rugby is more of a stamina game, American football is more of an impact game.
"the pads exacerbate the violence rather than protect"
She's been watching the NFL for literally one minute and already understands it better than the safety commissions.
Exactly
I've made this point in many arguments with people who just say we don't need to worry about concussions because lf mah helmet.
From that comment I doubt you’ve ever played football but the equipment really does help
It's almost like a little CZcams comment can't possibly delve into the complexities of this issue...
There's no question the pads embolden harder hits in the NFL, but of course that isn't the whole story. The flow and details of American football separate it from rugby where they wear very little padding. But the A7FL clearly highlights how football might be played more safely with less padding and different techniques.
Ideally, we get the NFL to make actual substantive change to protect players such as better rules for hits and better enforcement of those rules. Then keep the pads to add protection.
Obviously it's a complex issue, but an important one if football is going to survive.
@Makayla Richards 😂 nailed it mate
In non-pandemic years, there’s usually a college football game, usually Notre Dame, in Ireland. You may want to check it out.
There are different styles of play. Some teams huddle between plays while others go faster in a “no huddle” style. But there is always at least a brief pause for the referee to place the ball.
Hitting the head, or tackling by the head will usually be penalized as unsportsmanlike contact, a 15 yard penalty, and if especially egregious the player can be removed from the game. Grabbing the facemask is also illegal, as it can endanger the opponent's neck and spine. Some of the hits were actually "blocks," committed (legally) by the offense to clear a path for the player with the ball; it is, however, illegal to block a player from the back. Helmet-helmet hits are illegal and can be seriously penalized, due to the high probability of concussions.
Like full speed running into a house... and sometimes, the house tracks you down and runs into you!
"Dump Tackle" sounds like when someone gets hit so hard they poo themselves.
Not too far from what we're seeing.
Didnt a dump tackle happen to Sanchez?🤣
We played neighborhood football when we were younger (on grass fields, no pads, not the best idea sometimes) and I caused that once or twice.
"Two of them from completely different angles!"
And this, y'all, was the moment she "got" why they wear the pads. 😂
Actually she did mention at the begining that they might have padding for a reason and she was proven right.