A very interesting integral with aesthetically pleasing solution development

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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
  • Today's integral looks absolutely gorgeous and yeilds a very cool final result in terms of our favorite transcendentals.
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  • @maths_505
    @maths_505  Před 4 měsíci +4

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  • @noobymaster6980
    @noobymaster6980 Před 4 měsíci +119

    I love when he said ”it’s integral time” and integraled all over the integral. Truly one of the integral moments of 2024.

    • @edcify8241
      @edcify8241 Před 4 měsíci +4

      You're the only one who didn't get a heart

    • @CalculusIsFun1
      @CalculusIsFun1 Před 4 měsíci

      @@edcify8241you just had to jinx it.

    • @lyonkang7402
      @lyonkang7402 Před 4 měsíci

      I thought we were done with this

  • @boranxiii
    @boranxiii Před 4 měsíci +25

    damn this video was so beautiful that i lost my edging streak.I love math.

    • @maths_505
      @maths_505  Před 4 měsíci +14

      Yup CZcams is definitely recommending my videos to the right audience.

    • @BenDover69831
      @BenDover69831 Před 4 měsíci +2

      bro

    • @NavyaMenon25
      @NavyaMenon25 Před 3 měsíci +2

      guys i think he likes likes math

  • @CM63_France
    @CM63_France Před 4 měsíci +8

    Hi,
    "ok, cool" : 1:06 , 5:27 , 6:37 , 7:37 , 8:12 ,
    "terribly sorry about that" : 2:20 .

  • @ieee12345
    @ieee12345 Před 4 měsíci +24

    It feels like it'd be a ton easier writing cos(x) = Re(exp(ix)), packing the exponentials, completing the square and then invoking some mild holomorphic property to make the imaginary shift in the integration variable. After that it's just gaussian integrating.
    You could even do that at the step before, changing the sin into a complex exp.
    Still, watching Feynman's trick at work is always nice, keep it up.

    • @lakshay3745
      @lakshay3745 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Or you could just use the complex definition of cosx and then complete the square in both Integrals and create two erf functions which solves the integral in like 2-3 lines

    • @aryaghahremani9304
      @aryaghahremani9304 Před 4 měsíci

      can you explain the holomorphic shift? what i get when completing the square is Re(exp(-(x^2-i/2)), how do you turn this back into a normal guassian without invoking complex integrals

    • @ieee12345
      @ieee12345 Před 4 měsíci

      @@aryaghahremani9304you should get something like exp(-(x-k*i)^2) inside the integral, for some k I can't tell right now.
      Then you'd want to do the change of variables u = x - k*i, to get back to the normal gaussian integral, but to do so you must note that the 2 "line pieces at real infinity" integrate to 0 and that the integrand is holomorphic.
      You can also just do the change, replace the limits and hope it works, but to justify it you need this very mild complex analysis, which is what I was referring to.

    • @djconnel
      @djconnel Před 4 měsíci

      @@lakshay3745 I agree: I felt as if the use of Fenyman's trick was strained. My first reaction was to express the cosine in complex exponentials, as you suggest. But maybe because I never learned it in school so I find it non-intuitive.

    • @Sugarman96
      @Sugarman96 Před 3 měsíci +1

      And at that point it's just the Fourier transform of the Gaussian evaluated at 1

  • @josephlorizzo8997
    @josephlorizzo8997 Před 4 měsíci +19

    WOW, what a cute ODE, i loved how you used the feyman trick there, i couldn't wait for you to mention the gaussian integral for that -u² on the e ahahahaha

  • @askandpushpaltiwary8537
    @askandpushpaltiwary8537 Před 4 měsíci +3

    you should try the book of almost impossible integrals. Its a joy to solve those!

  • @acelm8437
    @acelm8437 Před 7 dny

    I liked how the e^(-u^2) term kept absorbing the u's

  • @utuberaj60
    @utuberaj60 Před měsícem

    Hi Kamal
    I've been watching your amazing 'integral' videos, and the more I watch, the more I love them, and I see you using that amazing Feynman's trick that's really cool.
    Indeed you make my 'integral moment' today at sunrise here in India

  • @aryaghahremani9304
    @aryaghahremani9304 Před 4 měsíci +2

    ODE is smart, i love how feynman's technique is becoming an actual method of solving integrals rather than just a cool trick these days
    i solved the cosx e^(-x^2) integral by letting cosx=Re(e^ix) though which is pretty cool as well i guess

  • @lolcollol212
    @lolcollol212 Před 4 měsíci

    Free okay cool buttons:
    1:05
    5:27
    6:36
    7:37
    8:11

  • @Jalina69
    @Jalina69 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Counting how many times bro said "cool".

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Integration by parts
    Change of variable u=sqrt(-ln(x))
    Series expansion for cosine
    Change order of integration and summation
    Change of variable v = u^2 , to get Γ function
    (Γ function can be also expanded)

  • @MrWael1970
    @MrWael1970 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Very impressive integral. Thanks for featured solution.

  • @dukenukem9770
    @dukenukem9770 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Both the solution and the technique are beautiful.

  • @cameronspalding9792
    @cameronspalding9792 Před 4 měsíci

    @ 4:49 for this part I would have used the complex expression for cos(u) and then used contour integration to get the rest of the answer

  • @lucasbeaumont5762
    @lucasbeaumont5762 Před 4 měsíci +1

    people say im weird cause to me this is fun, i think their werid for not understanding that this was fun

  • @zealot4325
    @zealot4325 Před měsícem

    Thank you!

  • @user-fi8ji8jx8b
    @user-fi8ji8jx8b Před 4 měsíci

    First time i accually manage to solve one of your monster integrals, lets go

  • @federicoformaro
    @federicoformaro Před 4 měsíci +1

    one of the few times i could've solved it by myself

  • @HighlyEntropicMind
    @HighlyEntropicMind Před 4 měsíci

    I liked how we never needed to go back to the original

  • @leonmancaj3690
    @leonmancaj3690 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great thank you Sir

  • @nickyhekster2974
    @nickyhekster2974 Před 4 měsíci

    Very cool.

  • @sasukeuchiha1320
    @sasukeuchiha1320 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Ok cool!

  • @YassFuentes
    @YassFuentes Před 4 měsíci

    Beautiful one!

  • @giuseppemalaguti435
    @giuseppemalaguti435 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Io ho fatto così...t=√(-lnx)..risulta e^(-t^2)cost integrata da 0--->inf...poi feyman I(a)=..cosat...risulta,in sintesi I=√π/2e^(-1/4)

  • @Ivan-mp6ff
    @Ivan-mp6ff Před 4 měsíci

    Why not complement it with a graph? In most math calculations, a graph speaks a thousand words and can be very intuitive. Thank you all the same.

  • @user-zg8ny5tp4g
    @user-zg8ny5tp4g Před 4 měsíci +1

    When you get in the next step, please put some explanation between steps. Because we need to get the clearance solution. we are not all proficient .thank you

    • @maths_505
      @maths_505  Před 4 měsíci +1

      So you weren't listening to the audio???

    • @user-zg8ny5tp4g
      @user-zg8ny5tp4g Před 4 měsíci

      @maths_505 Absolutely, because mathematics is a language in itself, so l asked you, we need more steps before you get in another step,

    • @maths_505
      @maths_505  Před 4 měsíci

      @@user-zg8ny5tp4g to waste more time??

    • @user-zg8ny5tp4g
      @user-zg8ny5tp4g Před 4 měsíci

      @maths_505 Why do you think that 20 minutes is not enough ??

    • @maths_505
      @maths_505  Před 4 měsíci

      @user-zg8ny5tp4g I just think that rambling on about basic algebra is gonna be extremely boring. The level of math here is something that my target audience is sufficiently familiar with.

  • @edmundwoolliams1240
    @edmundwoolliams1240 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Beautiful aesthetically pleasing result, use of differentiation under the integral sign which led to a lovely first order ODE 😍
    Exactly what I needed on my Friday morning.
    Could you find and do a beasty integral that evaluates to Digamma(G/sqrt(phi))?

    • @maths_505
      @maths_505  Před 4 měsíci +3

      Wow that is some request! I'll try my best.

    • @edmundwoolliams1240
      @edmundwoolliams1240 Před 4 měsíci

      @@maths_505 I know that's a very tough request. 😂 I don't expect you to get very far with it; as far as I'm aware crafting a (non-trivial) integral to yield a specific result is some near-impossible guesswork. I suppose that's why it's extra-special when beautiful results DO come out 😊

  • @illumexhisoka6181
    @illumexhisoka6181 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I have read about norms the other day
    (barely understood anything)
    But I got wondering
    how to find a general formula for the integral from 0 to 1 of
    The nth root of (1-x^n)

    • @GiornoYoshikage
      @GiornoYoshikage Před 4 měsíci

      Substitute `x^n = u` and notice that you get a kind of beta-function

  • @toufikakkak8459
    @toufikakkak8459 Před 4 měsíci

    Hi bro, can you do the intégrale from 0 to 1 for "ln(1-ln x)"

  • @BadrBoutara
    @BadrBoutara Před 2 měsíci

    hi please why did you plug in ln c rather than c

  • @albert3344
    @albert3344 Před 4 měsíci

    Ooooook coooool!!!

  • @yoav613
    @yoav613 Před 4 měsíci

    Nice😊

  • @user-fg2mf1wc5k
    @user-fg2mf1wc5k Před 4 měsíci +1

    i thought you sove it by complex nos

  • @igorbatkovich3856
    @igorbatkovich3856 Před 4 měsíci

    Без Фейнмана не обошлось))

  • @davidblauyoutube
    @davidblauyoutube Před měsícem

    Ah, but is the final result irrational?

  • @2739D
    @2739D Před 4 měsíci

    mane wtf😭😭