The AFC North is Good at This Whole Drafting Thing
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- čas přidán 27. 05. 2024
- Grading every pick for the #Ravens #Steelers #Browns #Bengals in the 2024 #nfldraft
Why I do Draft Grades Videos:
This is a fun exercise to visit how I believe these players will produce for these teams, what these coaches and players can work on to make these Grades look wrong in a few years, vice versa, as well as what these Drafts might tell us about a certain team’s plans or opinions on existing players on their roster or the types of schemes they are looking to run.
DRAFT GRADING CRITERIA
DAYS 1 & 2
“S” -Certified Steal
• Need, team/scheme fit check out and the value is better than expected
“A”
• Value, need, and team/scheme fit all check out
“B”
• Good pick, but one of the following apply
o Player was a slight reach
o Positional value in question (1st Round Only)
o Team passed on a better player at the position for the team
o Team ignored value at a major need (1st Round Only)
o Team/Scheme fit is in question
o An otherwise “C” graded pick due to value and/or better players being available, but a massive hole at a value position (QB, OT, WR, ED, DT, CB) was addressed in Round 1 with a still good player that wouldn’t have been available for the team later
“C”
• Fine pick but two of the following apply
o Player was a slight reach
o Positional value in question (1st Round Only)
o Team passed on a better player at the position for the team
o Team ignored value at a major need with (1st Round Only)
o Team/Scheme fit is in question
“D”
• Pick is in question as three of the following apply
o Player was a Slight reach
o Positional value in question (1st Round Only)
o Team passed on a better player at the position for the team
o Team ignored value at a major need with (1st Round Only)
o Team/Scheme fit is in question
OR Player was a major reach
“F”
• A truly inexplicable pick as player was a major reach, AND team passed on a better player at the position for the team, team/scheme fit is in question, or team ignored value at a major need or positional value is in question (1st Round Only)
"-" May be applied if pick required a high trade-up price
DAY 3
Certified Steal (Purple)
• Team stole a player who had a Day 1 or 2 grade who has a legit shot to be an impact player
Great Pick (Green)
• Team found above average value and a player with a legit chance to start within the first couple of seasons with the team OR a great role player in a key spot right away (Goal line back, #3 D-Lineman, TE2, dime back, kick returner, etc.)
Good Pick (Blue)
• Value lines up and player is in a great scheme or opportunity to find success as a starter or key role player relative to most Day 3 picks
Solid Pick (White)
• No notable criticisms of the pick but expectations should be tampered as with any Day 3 Pick
Reach / Will Regret Not Taking… / Not a fan (Orange)
• (Round 4 & 5 only) Player was a notable reach and/or notably better players would have been better picks, but the player still had a draftable grade
• (Round 6 & 7) Player was evaluated and did not have a draftable grade Massive
Reach (Red)
• (Round 4 & 5 only) Team took a player who did not have a draftable grade OR reached multiple rounds while passing on several better options for the position
Timestamps:
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Ravens 0:23
Bengals 13:02
Browns 27:06
Steelers 34:46
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Just as a note, there weren't really any UDFA Standouts in this entire division for me. I didn't forget.
Also McKinnley Jackson is Texas A&M, not Miss. St.
I'm good for one Miss St/TAMU or Utah State/Nevada typo mixup per season....those teams have identical asthetics. So...You're welcome?
Any opinion of the UDFA of the Steelers😁? Nice video Marcus (as always)
The bengals got their star punter of the future bro whatchu mean
What you think of the Vikings udfa
My Steelers signed the best udfa available
Not even Javion Cohen?
You’re good at this whole pre and post draft analysis thing
awwww thank youuuu
@@ThatFranchiseGuy Please apply to be my Falcons GM 😁
@@jd67543 go back and look at his old draft grades and you'll change your mind real quick. Missed on almost every single QB the last 5 years, its almost impossible to believe he could be so consistently wrong
I remember Jackson Krueger sports running some numbers using PFF WAR that out of many different draft analysts on CZcams, Marcus’s evaluations and projections are by far the best second only to the NFL itself. This dude is the best in the business not already working for the NFL and doesn’t get the recognition he deserves
Tfg, not sure if this would be too difficult. I think it would really improve the video to hide your grade of the picks until you talk about it. Having all the pick grades visible at once takes a little away from actually waiting to hear your take on the pick. Kinda like you do with the final draft grade. Just a suggestion!
Steelers draft still just has me in awe. Out of all the mock frenzy, I couldn’t have mocked it any better.
omar khan has been really good so far drafting wise
The Khan man strikes again
Hail King Khan!
Really? Remind me again what we said about their _last year's_ draft when they got nothing but upgrades of blockers on offense, even their TE?
Same thing. So how good was it if they needed to replace 60% of it _this year?_ They didn't trade ANY of _those_ picks. So this is a repeat of last season's draft, which obviously failed.
A+. When their offense stalls because there's still no one to pass to, no one is going to say "but look at how improved that o-line that got that QB room to the playoffs is." They're Right Back where they were last season getting one receiver, having traded another & maybe added .4 to the average of their runs when their run game was already good enough to drag last year's passing game *to the **_playoffs!_* They obviously didn't _need_ to upgrade the o-line.
@@choosecarefully408what are you on about? Literally NONE of the draft picks from last year got replaced by this year’s draft or free agent signings, besides maybe Cory Trice, their 7th round corner who will be returning from injury. Even then, drafting Ryan Watts during the 6th round is simply rounding out the room to provide competition where the only proven starters are Donte Jackson and Joey Porter Jr..
I’ll run through it just in case. The top players the Steelers drafted this year consist of a tackle to play opposite of Broderick Jones (not replace), a center to replace Mason Cole (who was a free agent signing that was constantly getting beaten while also having issues snapping the ball), and a receiver to replace Diontae. Meanwhile, Payton Wilson is going to be playing alongside Patrick Queen and Elandon Roberts, and he could end up playing if injuries happen like they did last season. McCormick? He’s a depth piece that can develop and replace one of the older guys on the line when they’re done, though he could also play if injuries occur. If we pay attention, every single pick from last year’s draft still has a place on the roster. No replacements, they’re building around who they currently have.
If you want to argue the Steelers should’ve gone receiver earlier this time? Fine, but considering the team’s history at finding receivers, I’d sooner take a chance on finding a good option later in the draft than pass up on the perfect opportunity to shore up the line, whom we’ve been complaining about for the past two years.
Wearing your hat backwards so David Tepper can't take it off when you move to Carolina, only the finest from Marcus.
The Khan Artist
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King Khan
Matt Lee was a “My Guy” and could not be more thrilled he’s a Bengal, let alone as a seventh round pick! His tape at Miami (didn’t watch any from his time at UCF) was just rock solid especially as a pass protector. Rarely loses and when he does it’s not immediately. Can’t believe he fell as far as he did. He definitely could use a year or two to add weight and strength to adjust to NFL d-linemen, but I’d bet on him as a future starting center
Center seems really undervalued
At 24:16, Cam Sample is the GOAT if he can be a viable NFL Pass Rusher & a viable NFL tight end at the same time. That is absolutely crazy.
That's brutal that they have two "Ends" named sample. I never even noticed that till now haha
Steelers fan. Only thing I disagree w/ is Frazier getting a B in the second round. Center was steelers biggest need. and they didnt have to move up to get one of the best. Almost everyone said Steelers would have to trade up for a top center if they dont get one in the first round. Not only did they get a top center, they actually got their guy.
Ravens draft was great, filled our biggest needs and pack huge value. Just the fact we added a true shutdown corner to the #1 defence from last year which had no true shutdown guy….defence will be wild. Now add a true vertical threat to a team that added king henry…filled in everything we needed for the next step. EDC Masterclass
The only problem I have in the Mims pick is that I have no faith in the Bengals developing their offensive lineman as we have seen them take offensive lineman this high before and it hasn't worked out super well.
Just like the Giants!!
The thing with Mims is that he has all the fundamentals of being an OT down, just is inexperienced. So training him isn't like the training of any of the previous OTs, where flaws had to be corrected. In this case, it is simply give him tape of what to watch for and give him more reps. It's as simple as that.
Half of me wishes my Steelers were in a soft division and got an easy path to 1st seed every year. Half of me is fiercely proud that my team is in the toughest division in the league!
The King is back! Loving these breakdowns.
Love it. I was so excited when you surprised us b saying you were going AFC North next, at the end of last video. Let's get it! Appreciate all you do Marcus!
Mckinnley Jackson went to Texas A&M btw
Another EDC masterclass RAHH
I agree that we have a lot of mid Wrs options on the Steelers. Let see who are the ones that play.
Just put fields at receiver. He'll turn into aj brown
I love this draft as a Ravens fan. Getting your potential future starting CB duo in Wiggins and Tampa, Rosengarten I think can be a really good starting RT, or worst-case just a solid Swing tackle, Adisa Issac can be a really good #3 EDGE, Tez Walker has #2 WR upside. I would also say keep an eye out on Joe Evans, who they picked up in UDFA, 9.5 sacks at Iowa last year, I think theres a really good chance he makes the roster and get's snaps as a rotational player.
Love these grades thank you Marcus!!
sleeeeeepin on zach frazier.... that was an excellent pick, couldn't possibly marriage need and value better... I'm also a very biased WVU/ Steelers fan.. love the content, Marcus.
Always heavily enjoy these.
I think Beenie Bishop has a shot w the steelers, thats the only udfa i see worth mentioning in this division
To me he was the best udfa after the draft was over
Another great watch. The detail and enthusiasm is unsurpassed. The day you stop doing these evaluations will be a very sad day. Thank you.
Love these vids man. Can’t wait to hear what you think about the Seahawks draft, I know John drafted like 3 or 4 of “you’re guys”
Thank you for not punishing the Browns for not having a first round pick.
Omar Khan has absolutely cooked in his first two drafts. Ik you're not as high on Frazier but I watched him a lot at WVU and he is a DAWG.
24:08 death, taxes, and Marcus slightly mixing up names 😂
TFG noticed that your going in draft order i do not remember you do this in the past can't wait for the NFC west draft grad I am rams fan and love every single pick
I think Blake Corum was an amazing pickup by the Rams. Kyren Williams missed 5 games last year and in that stretch the Rams won only 1 game. With Corum in the mix, the Rams offense should run smoother when Kyren leaves the field.
Seems wild for the Steelers to take 3 line men but all those guys are major impactful players Zach Frazier will be the best of the group
Really looking forward to Marcus reviewing my Rams Draft. However i am not mentally prepared to see the Fiske Pick getting a F Grade lol😅
The Bengals had an Amazing Draft for a team to not have many Holes. If burrow stays healthy the North is the Bengals
I would have loved to have heard your analysis of Briggs. Ive played him for 8 years and always thought he was a good player. Also got 42 reps on the bench this year!
Small mistake where you mentioned Cole Strange instead of Brenton Strange I assume since you were talking about TEs during the Cedric Johnson discussion for the Bengals at 22:56.
Great breakdown. One note: Brandon Stephen's took a big step last year. He is a better pure cover corner than Marlo rn.
i’ve been high on logan lee since i saw his tape. so glad you mostly agree lmao
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Don’t blink!!!
McKinnley Jackson played at Texas A&M, not Mississippi St
Finally someone who likes the browns draft
TJ Tampa is a top 10 name of all time 🤝
Another draft vid? Banger
TFG? Banger
Roofers? Bangers
Roof??
A summary of the evals I found on the players he didnt get to:
Nick Samac: Injured late in the season, highly graded run blocker, wasn’t able to test, struggles with technique and body control in pass pro, which is all over the place
Sanoussi Kane: Good tackler and special teams projection, played a big role in Purdue’s defense, safety/LB hybrid
Josh Newton: Excels in press man coverage, good run defender, just is a poor athlete
Daijahn Anthony: Very aggressive high cut safety. Just plays very upright in coverage and lacks high end traits
Matt Lee: Above average athletic traits and strength, good pass protector just is an abnormally bad run blocker for a center
Jowon Briggs: Built like a brick shithouse, just has stubby arms and a really bad athlete
The bengals are determined to get that tight end room together bc they are loaded at wide receiver.
I know you're making these high quality and double checking but these can't come out fast enough haha
Cincy might’ve been my favourite draft out of anyone, Mims was perfect value, and the best possible landing spot for him learning from Brown and Brown.
Erick All was my TE2, Burton is a Top 5 receiver in the class if you lock him in a cupboard between games. Kris Jenkins was a beast and my DT3, and I view Newton, McLachlan, Jackson and even Matt Lee as potential future contributors
46:08 little correction Pat P was cut, but there’s also a chance that he comes back on a vet minimum contract. We’ll see
Fun fact: The SEC DPOY this past season...who led all those vaunted SEC defenses in both tackles AND sacks...just fell all the way to the end of round 6...to Jim Schwartz and that Browns D. Say hello Nathaniel Watson! Come on...that's gotta be a steal there. Just because he's not a star at getting off blocks and had a DUI nine months ago, that guy can play football.
That franchise guy is good at this football content on CZcams thing 👌
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47:07 im assuming one of the NOs is supposed to be cleveland
My Ravens not taking Michael Pratt was a horrific pick. Your talking about a guy who could be an elite backup that could play in the spread system
My Steelers balled out this draft
Maybe I’m just old school or way too Yinzer in my thought process on Frazier, but when I see a 4x state champion in wrestling, I pencil him in as a Steeler. I definitely see why he isn’t a fit, but the Steelers love plugging a mauler in at C for 10 years and he fits that
Over the past three years I've noticed one thing in particular. Everyone outside of the AFC north has been over inflating the AFC north's value. I guess because of their quarterbacks, but Watson hasn't done anything since he left Houston worthy of mentioning. Burrow has looked luke warm since the Superbowl run, and Lamar is THE definition of a "regular season quarterback." Also, in case you're thinking I'm going to praise Wilson or Fields, think again. Wilson hasn't played at a high level for three consecutive years, and Fields has racked up 10 wins in 3 seasons, lmao. So as someone who's watching this division intimately year in and year out, can we please stop putting this division on a pedestal? It's not the best in football right now. Not even close. The AFC east and NFC north are both better.
Dalton Knox is a baller indeed, makes a good duo with Dawson Kincaid
I dont think its fair to say Ojabo hasnt worked out. He hasnt worked out yet*. He's had two long term injuries that has limited his play time but we cant forget the potential that is still there with him. He should be "rested" by now and set for a break out year barring another major injury. I like the Isaac pick for insurance but Ojabo is definitely not cooked yet
Wanted that A+ 😢
YES
One thing I think should be factored in when thinking about size and/or play strength is age.
Nate Wiggins is 20
It’s expected that he naturally gets bigger and physically matures more.
Even Rosengarden is 21. Thats young for an Olineman.
If both of these guys were 2 yrs older, there size/play strength would prob be looked at a little differently
Really liked Michael Hall's film, but apparently he had character concerns that entirely dropped him off of team's boards, so should be interesting to see how that plays out. Otherwise, I think Cleveland is a great place for him to succeed.
I agree. Making the evaluation even more interesting Cleveland is where he grew up so it will be interesting to see weather bringing him home invites more trouble to him or keeps it away from him.
Tez only had like 2 drops in season though lol
Ravens first pick is more of a luxury pick than a need. They already have pro bowl level corners and secondary.
Can’t wait to shake my head at your commanders draft grade
AFC North sets the standard
Why did you post to nfc divisions and now afc 😢 had my hopes for nfc east
You're next!
@@ThatFranchiseGuyyay!!!
@@ThatFranchiseGuy Let's go! Thank you! Great video as per usual!
So slight amusing error in the final graphic, Cleveland is now New Orleans 2.0 😆
(I listen to stuff like this when I'm doing stuff so I like skipping through to see the visual aids)
1:24 Ravens and Durability issues, name a more iconic duo
Devin Leary got taken because Tee Williams Ravens assistant HC, has him as his my guy
I like Rosengarten and I don't see why he should gets a C grade and Wiggins gets an A when both have the same caveat: lack of play strength. I already know my Ravens are gonna make these guys bulk up and get them to playable strengths, so that aside I say both are As.
Yes, I am aware that Rosengarten's position is much more dependent are strength than Wiggins', but I still think my point stands.
Yeah I mean that last point is insanely important haha
@@ThatFranchiseGuyyou really don't like the ravens..
This guy actually says McCormick is a better prospect than Zach Frazier… my goodness man. Sometimes I love your evaluations and sometimes I’m like man you see things way differently
First 3x in a row
Frazier is arguably the best pick for the Steelers and was absolutely a steal. B grade for that pick is disrespectful
Cannot wait for the NFC east video! Can't wait to see you go in on the new Commanders FO for idiotically taking Jayden Daniels over Drake Maye. They better get a F for that pick alone or at least a D-.
Didn’t watch too much ravens this year. Is ojabo cooked?
He got injured early in the season and finish on IR. Still have good hope for him, everyone last year took a huge step under new olb coach. See that progress taking another huge step.
9:40 brandon stephens was waaay better than okay last year, he stepped up huge when humphrey went down.
also lattimore isn’t a raven 😅
It low key sucks that most drafts did good. I love when you flame teams, and I can only think of a few more drafts that you may mark as bad.
Mel Kiper thinks a jock strap is a Covid Mask
Feel like you are being a bit generous with A total grades. 9/12 have A or A-.
Lot of good drafts so far!!!
I do these like a teacher grading tests, if people answered correctly, they get an A!
Definitely have some worse classes coming.
Wiggins tape reminds me of Denzel Ward which sucks he’s in our division
Wiggins is fragile
@JR-ws4te so is denzel ward lol
How many sacks did Roger give up last year protecting Penix’s blind side?
Brandon Stephens was the Ravens’ best CB in ‘23, he was a lot better than “ok” lol
Another year, another AFC North draft masterclass. WHO DEY
How tf did the Ravens get a B when the Bengals and Browns got A’s? And that’s coming from a Steelers fan
McKinley went to Texas a&m
Let the chef Khan cook
I am enjoying the video. That said, it annoys me a little how many S rankings there are. S rankings only go to guys in teh first 3 rounds. Each team seems to have 1 so there will be 30 to 40 total. There are only 100 picks in the first three rounds. If 30 out of 100 of them are S, it is kind of meaningless. If S means stamp your foot, you are constantly stamping your foot. It feels a little amateurish--where everything is the greatest thing ever.
“Certified steal” is basically S and he gives that past the first 3 rounds
@@TC-wg1gx It does, but I feel like he is giving a smaller percentage of them that designation (I could be wrong). The problem with his S designation is he failed to define it. He says it could mean steal, or S tier, or somebody he is stomping his foot for (a pick he may think he is not appreciated enough). Because there is no definition it doesn't mean as much as to somewhere between 30 to 40% of the first 100 picks are getting that designation and they are not getting the designation for the same reasons.
Brandon Stephens was not just "Okay" last year lol 😒
Wow, Marcus really had to bang this one out, huh?
Best Division in the NFL
WHO DEY! 🟠⚫️
28:08 dot
Frazier was a steal, you’re high lmfao
If you listen closely there is a lot of (hypocrisy?), I don't know if that is the right word. I mean I get it, your job to an extent is to go with your gut feeling and have a (hot) take one way or the other in a sense.
Having said that, to simultaneously praise on pick and label a CS like Michael Hall who will have to totally revamp his current skill set and technique to reach the heights you envision, but then knock Rosengarten when your only real criticism is that he needs to add strength (which is easily attainable) does not compute for me.
you should be able to compute it, obviously not all critiques are the made the same. He is explained why he believes Hall is more likely to and why he believes Rosengarten is less likely too pretty clearly
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@@skane260 I disagree. I acknowledged that this is speculative in nature. I.E. for the less inclined "it is not a given".
He says Hall has incredible potential without any cognitive way of to varify that other than instinct alone. Nothing Hall has done to this point suggests that he will be more in the future.
Rosengarten is 21 years old and been raised in systems that don't necessarily value strength. Ed McCaffrey's Valor High School which copied Shanahan, or UW's high passing volume quick release program.
Rosengarten, who has unique athletic upside and an incredibly quick first step could easily go from a 20 rep 225lb press guy to a 26 or 27 rep guy in a matter of months. He's been training with Joe Stanley since the season ended. He's going to be awesome and no amount of speculative BS from uniformed individuals will change my mind.
You suck and Michael Hall will never be great, deal with it!
@@ThatFranchiseGuy Oh.....that's the closest you've come from having a real conversation. Lol
How bout your Kyle Hamilton take, just to name one, from last year?
No reason you don't wanna talk.
Another great drafting year from the AFC north. And another year of all 4 teams being frauds and choking when it matters 😂
Pat Pete is no longer with the Steelers now, although he might resign later
I thought I saw that they expect him back.
Omar Khan is 2/2
of course the browns need to have a bad draft every year to taint the division
Chad Reuter gave the Browns the worst grade in the draft. Probably the most embarrassing take I’ve ever seen.
Patrick Peterson is no longer a Steeler lol
Saw somewhere that they intend on bringing him back
I’ll def be the first person to tell you how god awfully wrong you are on Zach Frazier. It won’t take long you’ll find out
Bro, get some sleep. Those bags look heavy!! 😴
They are!
AFC north rules the NFL. And the Steelers rule the AFC north 💛