I know they have an end-of-life but man, I’m gonna miss those A and B cars a LOT when they are soon retired, mostly because they’re the last remaining Rohr-made railcars in revenue service
I'm going to miss the AC traction motors on the A and B cars. They may not be original to those cars but they evoke fond memories of my grandma taking me to lunch on BART.
I love their midcentury modern chic took too, but literally every BART rider I know is complaining about those cars. They are just too old and too fragile to be in service any more. In order for BART to survive it needs to upgrade to modern standards. For better or for worse, Bay Area residents are very well travelled internationally. They have seen how a modern urban rail system is supposed to look and will not accept substandard service that would fly elsewhere in the US. It's an "evolve or die" situation for BART and BART has risen to the challenge with the new cars. They are excellent!
I think the Fleet of the Future is much quieter than the 7000 Series in Washington, they're like giant AC units when they pick up passengers. I hope BART doesn't retire all of their Legacy Fleet all at once, just in case something goes wrong with the Fleet of the Future just like the 7000 Series. They can just use the Legacy Fleet for spare cars
They are doing a staggered release of the new trains. That being said, the old cars are incredibly fragile. The lengths that the BART maintenance crews have to go to keep these things operational are quite insane. These old BART cars were bespoke vehicles due to how exotic the system is. It's incredibly hard to find parts for anything that breaks. In many cases they have to reverse-engineer the whole part and do a small run serial production just to fix a small malfunction. It's crazy that most of these things can even run at this point, let alone that they are in good repair! The sooner they remove the old cars out of rotation the better. The more of these they can cannibalize the cheaper it will be to maintain the rest of the old fleet. Plus the riders hate these old cars with a passion. They are quite awful compared to the new fleet.
Yep, the full-length 10-car trains generally leave the platform at about 40-45 mph. BART’s trains accelerate really fast (3 mph/s) and are super long (~700ft), and this combination allows them to reach 40+ mph before the last car of the train leaves the platform. However, this acceleration is sometimes reduced when a train is running early or approaching the train ahead of it. BART trains run on a system of Performance Levels (I think there are 5 different levels), and each PL has different characteristics that alter the performance of the train, such as acceleration/deceleration rates, running speeds, etc. PL1 is the fastest and PL5 is the slowest, and trains generally only run in PL1 when they’re severely late and delaying other trains behind them. Performance Levels 1 and 2 are also the only levels where trains can run at 80 mph, which they only do where the track geometry allows it (long sections of straight, flat track). Otherwise, the trains are limited to a top speed of 70 mph.
It helps that these trains are incredibly light! BART is technically "light rail" by some classifications because of how light the trains are! The system was designed in part by aerospace companies and it still shows!
@@TohaBgood2 too bad other cities don’t have trains like this which are a better fit than poor light rail service and pathetic buses with low investment
![Bay Area Rapid Transit [BART] Trains @ Embarcadero (4/26/22)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/B_rEHi3M1iA/mqdefault.jpg)
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The acceleration speed of those trains is incredible
I know they have an end-of-life but man, I’m gonna miss those A and B cars a LOT when they are soon retired, mostly because they’re the last remaining Rohr-made railcars in revenue service
I'm going to miss the AC traction motors on the A and B cars. They may not be original to those cars but they evoke fond memories of my grandma taking me to lunch on BART.
The good part is that the western railway museum in Fairfield is going to have an a b and c car as an exibit!
I love their midcentury modern chic took too, but literally every BART rider I know is complaining about those cars. They are just too old and too fragile to be in service any more.
In order for BART to survive it needs to upgrade to modern standards. For better or for worse, Bay Area residents are very well travelled internationally. They have seen how a modern urban rail system is supposed to look and will not accept substandard service that would fly elsewhere in the US. It's an "evolve or die" situation for BART and BART has risen to the challenge with the new cars. They are excellent!
Love the look of those new cars! BART did a great job on this upgrade! I just hope they could put more of them in rotation faster!
I think the Fleet of the Future is much quieter than the 7000 Series in Washington, they're like giant AC units when they pick up passengers. I hope BART doesn't retire all of their Legacy Fleet all at once, just in case something goes wrong with the Fleet of the Future just like the 7000 Series. They can just use the Legacy Fleet for spare cars
They are doing a staggered release of the new trains. That being said, the old cars are incredibly fragile. The lengths that the BART maintenance crews have to go to keep these things operational are quite insane. These old BART cars were bespoke vehicles due to how exotic the system is. It's incredibly hard to find parts for anything that breaks. In many cases they have to reverse-engineer the whole part and do a small run serial production just to fix a small malfunction. It's crazy that most of these things can even run at this point, let alone that they are in good repair!
The sooner they remove the old cars out of rotation the better. The more of these they can cannibalize the cheaper it will be to maintain the rest of the old fleet. Plus the riders hate these old cars with a passion. They are quite awful compared to the new fleet.
My god, the acceleration! How fast are they leaving those stations at, 40-45 mph?
Yep, the full-length 10-car trains generally leave the platform at about 40-45 mph. BART’s trains accelerate really fast (3 mph/s) and are super long (~700ft), and this combination allows them to reach 40+ mph before the last car of the train leaves the platform.
However, this acceleration is sometimes reduced when a train is running early or approaching the train ahead of it. BART trains run on a system of Performance Levels (I think there are 5 different levels), and each PL has different characteristics that alter the performance of the train, such as acceleration/deceleration rates, running speeds, etc. PL1 is the fastest and PL5 is the slowest, and trains generally only run in PL1 when they’re severely late and delaying other trains behind them. Performance Levels 1 and 2 are also the only levels where trains can run at 80 mph, which they only do where the track geometry allows it (long sections of straight, flat track). Otherwise, the trains are limited to a top speed of 70 mph.
It helps that these trains are incredibly light! BART is technically "light rail" by some classifications because of how light the trains are! The system was designed in part by aerospace companies and it still shows!
@@TohaBgood2 too bad other cities don’t have trains like this which are a better fit than poor light rail service and pathetic buses with low investment
I’m very impressed Red line goes to Millbrae via SFO Airport
Beautiful video👍ciao from italy 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Growing up with SFO Airport/Millbrae, it sounds really odd hearing Millbrae/SFO Airport.
Love how this video is even filmed in some of the same spots as the last one :D
Cool !
nice video
Ready on Monday check the tour at SFO Airport and Bart station 🚉 tour guy
The fleet of the future cars sound like the retired 1000 series metro cars
HES GONNA LEAVE!