Best Nail Gun? Nailing Power in Wood & Composite Decking, Speed, Tip Grip, Noise, Weight
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- čas přidán 11. 02. 2023
- Nail Guns: Milwaukee, Paslode, DeWalt, Ridgid, Craftsman and Metabo HPT. Framing nailers compared for weight, noise, closeness to object for 90 degree nail drive, nailer speed (seconds to drive 25 nails), performance on composite material (depth of nail), and framing nailer tip grip. I purchased all of the cordless, battery powered framing nailers and supplies used to test the nailers to ensure an unbiased review. So, thank you for supporting the channel!
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It'd be a kinda subjective test, but I feel like a push broom test would be cool. They're kinda overlooked, but a good one makes a big difference
I think he could figure out some good tests...
Thank you for the video idea! I can definitely come up with a review if there's enough interest. Thanks again!
@@ProjectFarm yes! If nothing else, it would be extremely entertaining!
Nothing beats a horsehair broom for the past 50 years
He always figures out some sort of good tests. That would be an awesome video
A heavy nailer takes a lot of the recoil stress out of your wrist but when you’re nailing off siding you’ll feel that extra weight.
Great point!
I was installing strapping on ceilings last week with my Milwaukee nailer, had to change hands every 5 to 10 minutes.
@@ProjectFarm pruning shear or lopper should be next?
All of these will be a bit heavy over the head.
I remember using an old brushed ridgid drill over head to hang some drywall. That drill was probably 5 lb or just over and my shoulders were burning from that. So I imagine all of these nailers would be cumbersome using above your head.
considering that 20-some-odd years ago Paslode was the only cordless framing nailer available, it's impressive how far battery tools have come.
I had a Paslode around 30 years ago, truly a wonderful option for small pickup chores, but the fuel cell is a PITA.
So im only 17, so i haven’t been around too long. But just in my personal life, looking at my fathers Craftsman Evolv 18v nicad drill, which still works amazing, to me having Makitas top 18v lithium hammer drill, the difference is huge. Obviously different levels of brand, but even my brothers black and decker drill is pretty good. Lithium makes a huge difference
I’ve been using the Milwaukee paper collated version since it was released. I think mine may finally be getting weak, but I’ve pushed it pretty hard. I’ve built a house and a few additions (framing, sheathing, subfloor), numerous post frame sheds (#1 lumber, very hard columns), and countless other jobs. I didn’t plan on it being designed to replace an air gun for constant use, but in the end that’s what I did, and if it’s shot I’m still happy! Nothing beats packing away the compressor.
Thanks for sharing.
As much of a pain as an air hose is, this showed some of the drawbacks of the hoseless nailers. Thanks for all the time you take doing these product tests.
You are welcome!
The pros greatly outweigh the cons for battery nailers
@@micaha199 Explain your reasoning please. As someone who has used the Milwaukee and is currently on number 5 and 6 in 15 months from heavy use and they're near death too. I constantly have to keep the 6AH batteries topped off and the nailer overheats after 10 minutes of use. There is a huge performance difference between a fresh nailer and one used around 60000 shots. If you plan to used it sparingly and have the other tools in these lines and no air tank get it. But if your in any production stick to pneumatics.
I don’t have any experience with nailers, but I’ve got some projects coming up.
How much better do you think a pneumatic nailer would be?
@@gf2e Depends if you already have an air compressor or not, if not, a battery nailer would likely be a cheaper option. depending on if you need to buy a whole kit with batteries or just nailer. If you already have or were looking into a compressor you could likely then add brad nailers to your tool list for use on other projects cheaper than separate battery brad nailers. But I haven't price compared the cost differences in the cordless/hoseless alternatives. Cordless could be cheaper if you have a battery platform already.
The dimensional tests are invaluable, Todd!! Knowing which ones will get closest to the wall, and best handle toe nailing? Absolutely invaluable work you perform, as always!
Thanks so much!
I agree that was an awesome testing. I ran Paslode nail guns for 25 years. Always was very pleased. I just recently in the last month switched over to Milwaukee nail guns. The framer is very powerful but agree that it is quite heavy. Also plan on filing down the mail foot on my Milwaukee to be more like the Paslode, always liked the good bite it was able to get. Great test yet again. Keep up the great work.
@@ProjectFarm Just as a suggestion, it would have been nice to have an air gun for the control point, much like you did when comparing battery chain saws. It was a great idea to see a known technology and how it compared to the new one. Otherwise, it was a great test! You picked the right products for testing for sure!!! Well done!!!!!
The fact that the rigid is user serviceable in the field is very cool; If the Milwaukee and metabo had that option, I'd really consider them! For now, my Paslode is doing well, but it does require a good clean from time to time to stay optimal.
dont need to service the milwaukee its entirely closed system. They're not supposed to need maintenance, servicing, or refilling.
Milwaukee and metabo are serviceable by the end user you just have to know how and have the nitrogen air chuck
@@h2s142nitrogen air chuck? Please enlighten me
Whenever I want to purchase something, I always check to see if you've tested and compared. Your videos are invaluable, and I love watching your content.
Thanks for continuing to test and compare all sorts of products!
I have no use for one of these nailers, but it's always fun to watch how you come up with the testing. Well done!
Thanks and appreciate you watching!
@@ProjectFarm If you are looking for ideas, please consider a review of OBD II Scanners
Milwaukee is so consistently a strong performer in your tests it’s amazing. I have trust in Milwaukee like I do in Honda at this point. If I need a tool or equipment in a hurry and don’t have time to research I always know I won’t go wrong with either brand 95% of the time.
Thanks for sharing!
But it has been going down in quality. Its now a chinese company, in my country Milwakee sells a lot of overpriced scrap
@@kiyoshim9593 Here in the states Milwaukee is probably the best. They did mess up with their new design on their 1/2” impact driver but I would assume they are fixing that. I haven’t heard of any other quality shortages. Let us know what tools have diminished in quality where you are please, I am curious.
They are consistently heavy/bulky, too. I’d be surprised to see a framer choose a Milwaukee over a Paslode.
@@WontSeeReplies Framers don’t use these types of nailers very often. They all use pneumatic. Hitachi is the brand I see the most.
Man I love the smell of the paslode exhaust, brings back so many awesome memories of building stuff!
Like electric cars, sometimes you just can't beat the sound and smell of internal combustion 😊
Thanks for sharing!
You actually like that smell it bugs the crap out of me
@@dogatonic
straw dummy. EV cars and gas cars do the same thing, i.e., they take you and your stuff from point a to point b. What exactly does an EV car do, that a gas car cannot do, with respect to transportation?
@@dogatonic
there is no evidence that there would be "less maintenance" or that it would be cheaper to operate. There might be more maintenance, at higher cost. There would certainly be more maintenance on EV that the average owner could not DIY for free. But the bottom line is that it does not take you from point a to point b any faster or better than a gas car does. Therefore, comparing it to electricity in houses is disingenuous.
@@dogatonic
You answered with assertions, not arguments.
The car companies are doing what they believe is in their best interests. That does not mean that what they are doing will be in the best interests of the consumer. For example, electric cars are going to be more difficult and expensive to repair. It is better for the car companies, if they can sell more OEM parts to licensed technicians, rather than having people buy cheap aftermarket parts and installing them DIY.
I have enjoyed my Paslode nailery for years, They preform when needed and I dont require a noisy compressor to get the project completed. Keep the tool clean and lubed with a rare nail jamb. Company is great to work with year after year.
Thank you Todd for another head to head comparison.
You are welcome!
I work for Paslode, where you at?
I use paslode but they didn't work well in winter conditions gas freezes up might try one of these..
The Gen2 Metabo dos 3 nails a second, the original does 2 nails a second. You will appreciate that wide rafter hook once you start using it, hangs over window sills, homemade saw horses, top of walls, double trusses.
yep retrofitted it to the Milwaukee because it works so well
Thanks for the feedback.
I would concur that you should redo the test with the 36 volt version
I got a feeling the metabos going to do a lot of hanging around on things
@@jacobnelson4457 its faster and lighter.
Well done comparison! My family has had a Paslode for close to twenty years and has helped build a couple dozen projects around our farm, from an entire 80x100 shop to roosts in a chicken coop. With a little cleaning and lubing, it just keeps on chugging through all the dumb stuff we put it through.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
Also costs $25 a day just to use
@@davegordon6943 Why?
@@buddyquaid2038 you have to buy gas cylinders for it. Other battery nailers just have a battery, no gas.
I used a Paslode to build a few 16x25ft sheds over the years. I gotta tell you, that tip grip is super helpful. Also, it had more than enough power for what I was doing - and it didn't suffer from performance degradation. It just worked.
Thanks for the feedback.
I as well have used the Paslode in commercial construction.
They are way better than the battery framers because they are so much lighter and easier to use.
Paslodes don't seem to be as violent on the recoil as well.
With the battery guns I couldn't hold the gun in place, while working my wood with the other other hand. With the Paslode I could.
@@jeffshackleford3152 I have to disagree. I've used both pasloads and multiple battery nailer and the pasload is hands down heavier on the recoil. The gas can't function without generating recoil, unlike the flywheel or spring designs of the battery powered nailers.
You weren't working long enough. Meaning Paslode gun gas cylinder needs to be cleaned sometimes because that gas cartridge also includes oil. And when you have used that gun long enough that gas cylinder become too dirty and nailing piston doesn't move. It's good gun though,cost more to use because those gas cartridges but very light weight.
@@LordIntrepid they all generate recoil, they have to in order to drive a nail.
I bought the Milwaukee nail gun about 2 years ago, and I've been really impressed with it. It's put thousands of nails in wood for me. It's a little heavy, I would love for it to be lighter, but I think that also goes into why it performs so well. It's just built solid.
I also have the Brad nailer and finish nailer by Milwaukee in. Both have been equally reliable and consistent as the framer.
Thanks for sharing.
I love the 18ga brad nailer
i guess it comes down to what would annoy you more. 2lbs or sub par performance. i know what id take.
I run the milwaukee more or less every day. Runs good, pretty okay below 20 if you put it on your floorboard on thr way to work in thr am. It wont run, really, on less thsn a 5ah battery though
Milwaukee continues to impress. They may not "win" in every category, but they consistently come out on top or near the top and seem like the best battery system to buy into for most people.
I just invested in their Brushless Fuel line of M18, I'm a pretty heavy user, so I hope I made a good choice. Mostly been a DeWalt guy, so this is new territory for me.
What about dewalts compact new battery? They are super light and go for long time.
@@blackbeard9436 Gotta have good tools to go with it.
As long it’s not a dewalt I’ve burned those more at my work than any other brand and some are brushless
Thanks for the feedback.
Real wish a standard pneumatic would have been included to compare against. Especially the cold test.
Standard pneumatic work way better its not even close.
The standard pneumatic work just fine in the cold. The only time you see an issues is if the compressor freezes up it will take extra long to fill up.
We get around the compressor freezing by putting it close to our generator exhaust.
Thanks for the suggestion.
That’s like bringing a knife too a gun fight
@@nathaniels9141most framers have the compressors with built in generators, it keeps it warm enough in cold temperatures
I've had and used (full time/as a pro) 2 Hitachi air nailers for close to 20 years now, never an issue unless you get junk nails ;) they've been dropped, stepped on and generally misused/ abused, and unlike some others (porter cable ie ) they didn't break! The only downside (besides the hose, which actually comes in handy for lowering the gun down off the ladder/ roof) is their tendency to "double shoot".. which can cause some serious issues (a 16p coated framer in the finger HURTS!)
I purchased a Milwaukee 30degree nailer a few months ago. It performs the same as you described in the video even when it was about 25F outside. I absolutely love it. The only downside is the weight.
Thanks for sharing.
Yeah I have the 30degree as well. It’s a great tool. It is heavy but the 30 is actually lighter than the 21 at only 9-10 pounds. That’s pretty similar to the others. Unfortunately I think all these framing nailers are on the heavy side
I work in construction and since falling in love with this channel all I do is annoy everyone on site with my informative tool knowledge and purchase suggestions 😅
Thanks for your appreciation of the channel!
Great testing as always! Not having an air hose is definitely a huge plus. For small to medium size jobs, these battery powered framing nailers are the way to go. Thanks for the video!
Great point on the air hose and thank you very much for the positive feedback on the review!
I've actually been looking forward to you doing a comparison on framing nailers. Your videos are awesome.
Thank you!
I just wish he'd snagged the new Ryobi framing nailer too
I owned 2 older Paslodes and they suck.
Really appreciate this one as a contractor! We've always used the Paslodes, but we use Makita for pretty much everything else. Would love to see Makita included if you ever do another one!
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
Makita all day, not to dis Milwaukee or paslode, just my preference
Never forget ryobi! I rebought bought their batteries just for the vast array of fans and charging devices.
@@atomlegiontheir bluetoothbdist collection tech has me LOOKING 🧐
Makita doesn’t make a battery framer and it also operates like a pasload with gas
With you testing so many power tools, I would be interested in more durability testing with the tools you've recommended to see how long they last and if the cheaper tools still beat the more expensive after months or years of use as longevity is very important when comparing tools not just price. Sometime the cheaper tools may seem better at first but break before more expensive options. I know this would take a very long time. Keep up the great non-biased work.
Nice review. I have used Paslode for nearly 20 years, and for basic framing and sheathing they are by far the best, and will work all day on a single charge.
Is it cuz they’re light and go all day?
I swapped to the Milwaukee for a couple years but went back. However for inside work the Milwaukee still gets used because it’s way quieter.
non playable Its cause of the gas canisters Paslode uses and it being around for a long time.
The gas canister provides a lot of power for very little weight. Its also the only cordless battery gun that works in the cold. Its also just in general the most well designed since its the most expensive and been around for a long time.
The Paslode isn't an electric tool, it's a gas tool. It shouldn't even be part of this test.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
As an Alaska resident I really appreciate the cold weather operation part of these tests. I've sheathed roofs with paslode and dewalt guns at -10 degrees and left them in the dust with the cold weather resilience of the red nailer. I've personally gone through two dewalt framers before switching to red and no longer burn through tools and batteries like I did running yellow. the power, speed, and consistency from the milwuakee is unrivaled until you get out a pneumatic.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
I would like to see a test on automotive/trailer winches on any of the 8k-12k lbs winches. The actual strength, speed, and amp draw. Also, the durability in mud and water would be cool to see. Thanks for doing all these tests on different products and tools. This is one of my favorite channels on yt.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
I’ve been building for 45 years and I’ve just moved to battery nailing gun love Milwaukee thanks my 2 sons ,keep telling me move with the times dad ,for lasted 20yrs my youngest son brought me nail gun but heavy after a day on the framing and roof cheers 🍻
Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for these videos, some of the best unbiased product reviews out there. I try to base my purchasing decisions off of your results whenever possible!
Ryobi is scheduled to release their framing nailer later this year, please add that to your tests when it becomes available!
Thanks for sharing!
We have both the Milwaukee and the Paslode nailers at work, and the extra weight of the milwaukee makes me gravitate toward the Paslode every time. It is a noticable difference especially when shooting nails overhead
Thanks for the feedback.
Yup. Hands down. Pretty sad nobody has made a lighter nailer than the 15+ year old Paslode.
We use Milwaukee/Hitachi-Hikoki for LVL only. Paslode for everything else.
I’m sure I’m not the only one but I suggested this video a while ago and have been waiting to see the comparison. Great video as always. I appreciate the time you put into these comparison videos. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do! Thanks for suggesting this video idea!
Yet another excellent video! I can't help but root for Dewalt every time simply because that's the brand I have chosen to go with (I can't stand having a mess of different batteries and chargers so I stick with one brand for everything). One of the best CZcams channels ever - please don't ever stop! This would be a bit pricey but I would love to see a battle of some 9500lb 12v winches.
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the video idea.
This was darn interesting to watch! One thing I would have liked to have seen as well would be a conventional pneumatic nailer included as a control.
Great point! Thank you
I agree
This is really interesting because I bought the Milwaukee only because I already had their battery system. I’ve heard so many people complain about how much they hated their cordless framing nailer meanwhile I have loved mine. I didn’t realize how crappy some of the other brands performed compared to mine. Eye opening!
Same. Got them because I had the batteries and heard so much negative talk about them I assumed I'd just suck it up and keep using it. I've had no problems this far with it and apparently I lucked out on my purchase 🤷♂️
Thanks for the feedback.
I love my 30 degree milwaukee nailer. Lots of other tradesman talk about how they hate the weight of the gun compared to their dewalt one. It's ok though, I keep nailing on while they have to finish their nails with the ol' money maker.
The GEN 1 version was bad, these are gen 2
I bought my Milwaukee nailer because of the same reason. I used it to finish my basement and I absolutely love it. Saved so much time and energy. I had one 8ah battery and finished the entire 1000sqft basement with the single charge.
The fact that the Ridgid can be repressurized without sending it in for repairs is a huge plus IMO. I personally have the thirty degree version of the metabo which has served me well, and while it can be repressurized without sending it in, you have to buy a special pressure regulator attachment to do so.
Thanks for the feedback.
Part no: 371208 for that attachment
I have had the Paslode nailer for 8 years. It has run generally flawless. The original battery still runs the tool without fail. Simple, easy maintenance after every box of nails is easy. All big box stores, as well as your lumber yards support Paslode, so very easy to pick up fuel. No brained for me. All tools will break. I look for tools that I can quickly repair or get repair parts for.
Thanks for sharing.
The additional cost for gas and nails in the 8 years of using your palled you could have bought all the guns shown in this video.
Masterfully done. Your tool tests and reviews are the most thorough anywhere.
Thank you very much, I appreciate it!
I have the Milwaukee. It's magnificent and worth managing the extra weight. I do finished basements and one battery will shoot all day. Fantastic evaluation sir. I also have all my 25 yr old Stanley Bostitch pneumatics they are bullet proof but need oiled and occasionally needed seals. Never let go of your old tools.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
Milwakk was sold to a chinese company
Have you tried Paslode? Very few carpenters will use that heavy Milwaukee over a Paslode. The significantly lighter Paslodes become cumbersome to use all day. No chance I would ever opt for a twice as heavy gun which performs minimally better.
@@WontSeeReplies Just imagine what all that weight can do to your wrist in a couple of years. I also use small batteries. Being old with bad wrists is troublesome
@@WontSeeReplies I don't mind the weight because the extra mass reduces kickback. I have used Pasload. It is a fine tool.The extra hassle of having a fuel cartridge doesn't fit with me. All tools have some pros and cons.
I've never used a big battery powered nailer, so it's interesting to see the results of the test. Some factors you bring up are very helpful - length of the tool, time to get ready for the next nail and how consistent and deep the nail is driven.
I like Milwaukee tool a lot and it doesn't surprise me to see how they've made another top quality tool!
Thanks for your hard work. It's greatly appreciated!
Thanks and you are welcome!
Everyone says it but I want to say how much I love your videos. They are so entertaining to watch and informative as well. Never stop! And I also love how engaging you are with your audience.
Thanks so much!
Thanks for the review! This is the older model of the Metabo HPT/Hikoki nailer, they now also have a 36v version that has apparently made big improvements and is faster/more powerful
My pleasure!
Once again, Milwaukee reigns champion. Thanks for the video, Todd. Every one of these videos makes me glad I own Milwaukee power tools
You are welcome!
If he normalized the weight of all nailers, they would all drive to the same depth as the Milwaukee. Its why the weight vs. composite wood nail depth are inverses. Paslode is the lightest, and drove nails the most shallow while the heaviest nailer (Milwaukee) drove them the deepest.
A better test would be to ensure each nailer has the same weight behind it.
@@k2line706good point
Great video. I have the DeWalt framing nailers in my rental fleet, customers complain about them jamming pretty frequently. I actually used it for a project in the store and experienced it myself.
I've had to disassemble them for repairs, and they work by spinning up a flywheel. When it fires the nail, it basically jams a part against the flywheel, which gets launched forward to fire the nail. This is really sensitive to lubrication and debris, and is a lot more likely to have a hard time returning to the start position if the nail doesn't fire properly than the TTi (Milwaukee and Ridgid) nailers, which basically use a built-in air compressor instead. Since Craftsman is a Stanley Black & Decker brand, I imagine it's using the same idea.
Unrelately, I just watched your video on rust removers. I've been using a jar of muriatic acid based toilet bowl cleaner inside of an ultrasonic cleaner to remove rust and it works pretty well, so this has made me wonder how well other products work in an ultrasonic cleaner.
...Think you're up for a video on ultrasonic cleaner solutions? I've heard of just about as many different solutions as I've heard of people using ultrasonic cleaners, from straight water to solutions marketed specifically as ultrasonic cleaning solutions, to regular degreasers like Simple Green and even gasoline. It would be fantastic to know what ultrasonic cleaning solutions work best for different cleaning applications - dirt, oil/grease, rust, etc. Ultrasonic cleaners are amazing tools for cleaning stuff, but I've heard of people getting frustrated with them or straight up thinking that they're a scam because of using an ineffective solution, so it would be really useful to know what works well.
Thanks! Thanks for the video idea.
I've recently been able to replace my Ryobi collection with a set of Milwaukee tools, and am constantly impressed where I thought the Ryobi tools were decent and they were usually enough to get by, but the Milwaukee tools are all so much better than any other battery operated tools I've tried. Thanks for confirming once more I made the right choice and I can confirm with the one I have the results in the video are the same for me.
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
my favorite nailer is the Milwakee one, already built like 4 houses, 3 sheds, and a few additions with it, like 60 thousand nails and it's still great. and will put a 3 1/4 in nail into LVL's like it's nothing. Unlike the one in this video, I have the 30 degree version
Thanks for sharing!
@@johnfischer1988 it fires into osb just fine with 2" nails. I have to adjust it so it doesn't blow straight through the plywood, but after adjusting it, it's absolutely beautiful.
I say 2" nails because I only use 2" or 2 1/4" when nailing sheething on.
I noticed with mine using a 6.0 or higher HO battery really makes a difference. Is yours the same? I was surprised his preformed that well with a 4.0.
@@curtwow I've used my 3.0 high output one and it does make a difference I'm sure the 6.0 is the same. Unfortunately I don't have a 6.0 HO. I do slap the classic 5.0 on mine if I'm using it all day.
Absolutely agree with you, used it in infrastructure, we do millions of nails and no issues whatsoever, don't matter cold snap, extreme heat, rains and so on.
Speaking of Craftsman, recently got their 150w inverter for use with their 20V packs.. Pretty darn useful for powering LED light bulbs with a socket to outlet adapter and even those 30w super bright garage/attic type lights using the adapter. Glad to see you testing out Craftsman tools, may not be the best but they do the job.
Thanks for the feedback.
First thing, fantastic testing as always! Very thorough, and straight to the point. You've definitely had an effect on some of my past purchases, keep up the great work!
As a heavy user of both Paslode and Milwaukee cordless nailers in the past, my main complaint with the Milwaukee is use in cold weather. We get -25 to -35°c winters and the seals on the Milwaukee are not made for those temps (that came from the Milwaukee techs directly). So after a week or 2 framing in the cold the seals would give, and they would only fire the nails halfway into standard spf lumber requiring them to be sent for service. I will give them the power output is superior otherwise.
However, I will always grab the Paslode first. When you are framing all day, firing in awkward positions, and reaching to nail something the Milwaukee becomes overly cumbersome. The lower weight coupled with the better grip design especially for reversed grip firing makes the Paslode much more pleasant to use. The Paslode may require a deep cleaning every couple houses framed, but taking an hour to clean a few nailers every few jobs (which can be done right on site) has always been easier than waiting on a service.
Those are my opinions and I get some people may be as strong as the hulk and may not have to deal with the cold so a lot of this is situational, but hopefully this helps someone. Cheers!
Thanks, will do! Thanks for the feedback.
I wolud like to hear your recommendation for palm nailers, I am planning on installing wall covering with exotic tropical dense wood in excess of 3000 lbf Janka rating, 5/8" thick, I want to use the palm nailer and built a frame to "mimic" the subfloor frame at 6" center to center distance, this is a custom work in the tropical weather in Mexico, and there is no need to rush the installation time.
I work on Paslode and I can tell you that, the one tested here is faulty. They have to be oiled in the driver area to break it in. They will usually shoot the nail into a 4” oak lumber easily. Most carpenters want the nail to be under the surface, as it insures a passed inspection . Fresh wood will recover around the nail and won’t back out as easily. If you think there’s not enough vibrations to make it move, think about wind, rain, heat and walking through the house. Doors are opened and closed and jar it too.
Good Show!
This was another awesome video as always. I use nailer constantly for work and everyone I work with swears by their Dewalt or Paslode but I use all Ridgid. I would love to see the same video but with finish nailer since it will be my next purchase. Thank you for the excellent showdowns as always.
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
Try the paslode 16ga or 18ga
It’s a good day when there’s a new Project Farm video.
Thank you!
I could watch one everyday
Hi Todd, I really like your tests, I watched a lot lately. Best parts are your videocuts and your slight smile during your explaination. Greetings from Germany! P.S.: Good thing you are also testing german brands on this channel.
Greetings! Thanks!
As a contractor in the Phoenix area years ago, I liked the Paslode clipped head nailer. It held more nails than other configurations, never jammed, had a variety of nails, including the incredible holding power of cement coated nails, BUT then clipped head nails fell out of favor with inspectors, as they no longer met code. Be wary of this if you do work professionally and are subject to inspection. The depth of nail heads is also very important; over driven nails will be rejected by the inspectors.
Thanks for sharing.
Having used the Paslode to frame and build my entire basement, I can concur that it does sometimes leave the nails proud. But it also was AMAZING for keeping the tip planted wherever you put it. Angles or straight, it never budged. It was lent to me from a relative so I can't speak to it being worth the extra money if I had to buy one, but if you have access to it and aren't already invested in Milwaukee batteries, it's worth it.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the feedback.
If nails are proud regularly due to hard timber you can "pump" the tip while not pressing the trigger adding extra gas to increase power beyond all the other settings,it is a pain having to slow down and "double pump" every shot but if it works it is quicker than having to punch nails because of cladding or drywall
I'm a carpenter by trade & have tried the Milwaukee & dewalt, but the paslode is definitely the best option. Here, you'll find carpenters only use paslode for the cordless system with the other brands being used mostly by plumbers, labourers & DIY'ers. I use the paslode for standing walls, installing beams, roof frames & floor systems. The pneumatic comes out when building the walls, final nail off on floor systems & wall top plate. I generally keep one extra gas on me with a few clips of nails too.
Ryobi’s just came out this week. I have every other ryobi nailer and looking forward to getting the framing nailer. Looks like it’s very very similar to the rigid cordless framing nailer, which gets good reviews. Thanks for all the work as always!
I got the Ryobi this week, and LOVE the thing. I was glad the Ridgid performed so well here because it's basically the something.
Considering Ryobi, Ridgid, & Milwaukee are owned by the same parent company, I am not surprised. That Ridgid performing well is a good sign indeed
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
Don't get Cryobi. Only buy project Farm winners you fishmonger
@@poohssmartbrother1146 They're not owned by the same parent company. Ridgid is owned by Emerson and licenses TTI (Milwaukee) to manufacture their tools.
Hey bud, appreciate these reviews. been following for awhile. As a company we've been having more and more issues with our Paslode's in the last couple years and we were looking to try something new. Will be giving the Milwaukee a go tomorrow.
Thanks for sharing!
If I'm working all day at continual framing I have always preferred pneumatic nailers, but this test has changed my mind to consider a battery powered or the Paslode fuel cell if I am doing interior work and not driving as many nails.
I like the idea of either for driving finish nails.
Thanks for the feedback.
The metabo HPT is known as Hikoki in UK and was popular on test. The framing hook on the hikoki/metbao is deliberately large so it can fit over a 4inch beam. The paslode still needs gas which is expensive and an inconvenience. Milwaukee tools are always powerful until they break.
Yes comes in handy with timber frame and shop construction
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@@ProjectFarm thanks for the roboi reply
@@baseballdude8491LOL ikr
25 years experience framing and all other phases of Carpentry. Hands down I prefer the pasloads. Love air tools but hate hoses. Used a dewalt for a couple years but would get terrible elbow pain from the added weight when framing all day. That Milwaukee looks real impressive but I'd be scared off by the weight for sure. Thanks for the side by side comparison
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Great tests
I would never thought about the distance between studs and too length. Once again, great job!!
Thanks!
Wow showing the way they fit between the studs was extremely helpful in making my decision.❤❤❤❤ thank you
You are welcome! Glad to hear!
Thanks to your videos I've recently cleaned out my power tools and restocked. My house is mostly red with Milwaukee. Just today I've bought M18 Impact and drill, also the M18 search and spot light. Looks like I'll have to invest in this too. I'll find a use for it. Maybe you can do a flashlight video? Thank you for the awesome content!
Thank you for the video idea and for supporting the channel!
Sawzall, and angle grinder, as well as an oscillating multi-tool if you don't have those already. I have mostly Dewalt, but Milwaukee makes great stuff.
Another perfectly timed video release, my boss has a Brad nailer and is looking at framing nailer!
Awesome! Thank you!
Wonderful as always!
Just got my amsoil catalog, they claim their gasoline stabilizer out preforms sea foam, love to see it tested!
We have the Milwaukee at work and it’s a beast. Great tool.👍
Thanks for the feedback.
Can't wait to see the outcome on this one. I'm buying one next week! Thanks Todd!
Thank you!
Metabo or Milwaukee… I own all brands and those are the ones to consider… the rigid one was nice but the exposed cables on the vent on the side bottom was a let down the dewalt is a spring not piston so for fast shooting no ideal and than paslode needs carts for refills and shits hard to find at your local stores where I am…
It's fun. get to watch your videos twice, once when you release them, and then again later once when I decide I'm going to go buy a specific tool.
The sheer diversity in your comparison videos is stunning.
Thanks.
These videos are what make Sundays worth waiting for
True that
Thank you!!
I lifted the Hikoki and Milwaukee framers then picked up the Paslode, I bought the Paslode. The gas comes with the nails too and if you’re a home/diy user like myself it lasts all year. The weight is significant, try hanging one of the others on your belt. Never had buyer’s remorse with the Paslode.
Thanks for the feedback.
Thanks for presentation.
I just ordered a Paslode 906300 Cordless XP Framing Nailer due to lightest weigh 🤗
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I bought the Hitachi (Metabo) years ago when it and DeWalt were the only options. I think it was a good buy back then, and I have been happy with the purchase as most of the time, it beats pulling out extension cords, hoses, and compressors, for my application, but if it crapped the bed, I'd switch to Milwaukee.
I purchased a 30 degree DeWalt gun about one year ago
initially, it jammed quite frequently….. I switched from the DeWalt brand nails to the Paslode brand….. which seemed to help
Thanks for sharing.
Outstanding as usual Todd. I like the Push Broom Test idea. If you do, please include a smooth surface broom for fine dust on a smooth/polished concrete. How ya gonna keep the broom head at a consistent angle though? 😎
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
He might pull it behind a winnebago…
Owned a Pasload framing gun from the day they came out. Pasload had been the leader in hose less framing guns for twenty years. Time tested. Guarantee if you buy any of the new battery guns in Five years it will be junk. But your Pasload will still work. The best always has been. Ask any Old school framer they'll tell you the same
Thanks for sharing.
My 22 year old pneumatic DeWalt framing nailer just required its first repair last year... Had to replace some seals inside that dry rotted due to age. It still works perfectly otherwise. AND a friend of mine recently got me a new (returned) 10 gallon compressor for just 40 bucks, so for now it's still worth it to deal with the air for me.
Thanks for sharing.
This video just proved what I tell everyone regarding the Milwaukee, it’s a beast but it’s freaking heavy. I’ve used a couple of the others and my Milwaukee always seems to work while others almost always have some kind of issue. I just wish Milwaukee could find a way to keep the performance and lose some weight.
Yup. But it'll make a man outta you!
@@chadzagone8577 now that's a Chad thing to say!
How much does the extra weight have to do with performance?? does it help to drive the nail?? 12 Lbs for a hand held tool seems like a ton..
@@twistedhillbilly6157 The weight itself isn't really what's helping sink the nails, but the mechanism inside being beefed up is most likely what helps over it's cousin, the Rigid.
@Twisted Hillbilly it is a lot. I have used one for the past 2 years, it's heavy, very heavy, plus you are gonna want to the extended rack, and that is filled with nails, so probably another 1 lb or so. Maybe heavier duty firing hammer I don't know. Honestly I still hook up the air most of the time. Unless it's like a couple windows or bracing.
I've got the Milwaukee & i admit it's not light, but there angle finisher with 15G nails is amazing
Thanks for sharing.
Metabo nail guns are my personal favorite due to the fact I've used them just as often as a hammer to move boards, and they still keep on kicking
Thanks for the feedback.
This was absolutely fantastic comparison as usual! Big thank you!
You are welcome!
For Part 2, consider another test: continuous rapid fire to deplete the cartridges and reload until one or all overheat or give up the goat. We use Milwaukees on our job site, and for some reason we had a couple of them give up the goat and stopped firing after heavy, fast, continuous use. I heard maybe it might be an issue with internal seals overheating. Also consider vertical shooting too as a test. Good work!
Thanks for the suggestions.
The goat? Or do you mean the ghost? I'm pretty sure you had a couple of Friday tools - get them exchanged. I'm not a big Milwaukee fan and positively hate their battery ergonomics, but when it comes to nailers, they have no equals.
ive read that there is something funny with these new gen 4 milwaukees. they all suffer from overheating for some odd reason but yea
got my father a Ridged framing nailer a couple years ago so he doesn't have to drag a air compressor around his property. its amazing how well they do. thanks for another video. i know it may not do well as a video but it would be cool to see the shop and how you go though the process of creating some of your test equipment.
Thanks for sharing!
I have built many decks I've never had to nail into 4 pieces composite. I have a DeWalt 21° & 30°and Milwaukee 21° & 30° framing nailers and they both work pretty much the same once they are setup right. I do like your channel and I've based some of my decisions on tool purchases because of your videos. But some of the things you put tool through never really happens in real life experiences. Keep doing the fantastic work. I did buy the Very Impressive and We're going to test that shirts from merch store.
Thanks, will do!
Just bought the 15gauge brad nailer form Milwaukee and it's awesome and very well designed as well. I will say Milwaukee has recently stepped their game up and it's really showing.
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We NEED a comprehensive high torque 1/2 impact video so bad!! It’s one of the most popular tools on the market and there’s no one else on CZcams we’d trust to do it. Milwaukee, IR, Dewalt, Hart, Harbor Freight, Makita, Rigid, etc. It may be your most expensive video yet but ask your fans and we’ll gladly support you! You’re the only reason I’m on Patreon, your channel is a godsend.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Great review. I thank testing 18 ga brad nailers and 23 ga pin nailers would be great. A lot of finish carpenters and hobbyist uses them and being compared to nomadic nailers.
Thanks! Thanks for the video idea.
All my nail guns are pneumatic....and I don't do much in the way of wood working projects anymore, but found myself grabbing the brad nailer a lot with every project, so it would be interesting to see how the cordless/hoseless brad nailers do. I have yellow tools, and honestly wouldn't waste money on battery powered nail guns, they are far too inconsistent, and that's not what you want in a finish project...framing is one thing, its usually rough anyways and you typically won't see it...but have a nail gun misfire a nail in a finish project or not fire at all and just dimple the wood leaves a lot of work involved in fixing that problem.
Wow, your toughness on every test you do would make R&D teams cry. Thanks for another awesome video!
You are welcome!
Hugh fan of Milwaukee, absolute love it with passion. After 3 years of trying too convince my self that the Milwaukee framer was the better I can no long convince my self the power is worth the weight. It's nice for flooring ect but when it comes too framing in general you don't need it.
I use the Milwaukee, Dewalt, and Paslode extensively. How you got the highest decibel reading out of the dewalt is beyond me. It’s the only nailer I can stand to use without hearing protection
Tone is a large factor in perceived sound level. A higher pitched noise is perceived as being louder for the same db level, so getting a true representation of how the nailer will sound to your ear is more complex than peak decibel level.
Thanks for sharing.
Which model DeWalt do you have? I've heard that it doesn't drive nails well
Helicopter noise is unbearable
Lol that's because the dewalt can't sink a nail
I wish the new Ryobi framing nailer would’ve been out for this test would be great to see how it performs
They don’t make a framing nailer. Only trim and brad.
@@keepitreal4046 better do your research…..
Why would anyone risk framing to a Ryobi nailer? If you're a homeowner and weekend warrior doing only one wall a year, then use screws. If you're in the trade, then the Ryobi (and I don't care what type of nailer, drill or whatever it is) isn't going to last nor perform at the level of the other brands.
Thanks for the suggestion.
@@espressomatic well since the first of the two planned nailers only came out last week I doubt there is enough use of it to make your claim of how long it'll last. Just sayin
I really appreciate your videos. Thank you so much for them all.
Best nailer comparison video by far! Awesome thanks
Thanks and you are welcome!
Can't wait for Part 2 with the new Ryobi versions mixed in.
I'll definitely put together a part 2 if there's enough interest
Why bother? It's a rebadged version of the Ridgid.
@@ProjectFarm The power tool market is so competitive and changes so fast.. We will always be interested..
@@maximusmagni1 That is exactly to bother...
@@maximusmagni1 Same with the DeWalt and Craftsman though.
I am completely impressed about the quality and effort he puts in these videos, and the great ideas to make the comparison equal.
The amount of time and work he put in the making of these videos makes us grateful.
Your videos and contetn are awesome.
keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
Another good video! The batteries for hand tools have gotten so good that I may not buy another corded tool again.
I bought the DeWalt framing nailer a couple of years ago. Right away I spent as much time unjamming it as I did using it. The reset lever rarely helped any. The only good thing I can say about it is that breaking it down to unjam it is pretty easy, good thing the wrench attaches to the handle because you may need it really often. I like DeWalt tools and own several but there is no way I could recommend this one. They have some work to do on the cordless framing nailer. It was a pretty expensive fail for me.
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Earned my subscription! Straight to the facts with no extra fluff! Amazing reviews
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Note from experience with the Dewalt one. The one we got would constantly jam with a normal battery, but works 100% perfectly with a flexvolt battery.
Thanks for the feedback.
I may look into that to solve the issue with mine (although the battery that came with mine is massive and only fits that tool). Mine jams as often as not. Right now I don't bother picking it up any more.
@@dwash595 yeah, it comes with a large "normal" battery and it jams almost every time, but with the flex volt battery it never jams. It took a while to figure this out, but now that we know, it is the preferred nailing method
My dewalt jams constantly and I can't stand the motor spinning up. Just got the milwaukee. It's amazing so far. Just so much faster quieter and powerful.
PERFECT TIMING, PROJECT FARM!!!!!😀👋👍
Thank you!
True I’m always on the lookout for a good broom for on the job site
Thanks for sharing.
Excellent testing as always! I appreciate your thoroughness.
Thanks and you are welcome!
I am a contractor, we own 4 Dewalt cordless framing guns, we believe they are the best nailers in the business. Low cost maintenance, no gas, 4 and 5 amp batteries last very long. Great comparison.
Thanks for your channel, I always appreciate your test.
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
Slow and loud
Clearly you have no idea what good tools are. The milwaukee walked all over the dewalt
@TheBenjammin when we bought our Dewalts, Milwaukee were still sucking with no bumpfire, now finally they have woken up and caught up to the field.
@@TheBenjammin Also more than 2 lbs heavier and no nail capacity