Kung Fu Panda 4's Failed Villain

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  • @GravityRavity
    @GravityRavity Před 2 měsíci +214

    The main thing that ticked me off when the chameleon is explaining her reason of being a villain, one of the reasons is “I was too small” like what!?!?!? A freaking mantis learned it!!!!

    • @OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx
      @OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx Před 2 měsíci +8

      I feel like chameleon is an example of a dark mirror villain. The dark villain is basically a version of one of the heroes in a story if their life went completely wrong, and they were selfish and greedy. So basically it’s when a villain has the same experiences as a hero but becomes more and more unhinged, instead of becoming more heroic🤷‍♀️

    • @adwutals
      @adwutals Před 2 měsíci

      you forget one important thing the movie is for literal children lol

    • @GravityRavity
      @GravityRavity Před 2 měsíci +12

      @@adwutals yea, but the kung fu panda movies before it were for children, but it also had a lot of messages for the adults. What does this movie have!?!?!? Don’t trust everyone!?!? And if your only defense of why this movie is decent is that it’s made for kids, that’s a pretty weak argument.

    • @adwutals
      @adwutals Před 2 měsíci

      @@GravityRavity it's made by a kid friendly studio what?

    • @pepsimaaaaaaaaaan
      @pepsimaaaaaaaaaan Před 2 měsíci

      I mean i thought the same when i watched the movie yesterday lol

  • @HimekoIzayoi
    @HimekoIzayoi Před 2 měsíci +108

    Imagine if it turned out that Zhen was just the Chameleon in disguise.

  • @agonyremnanttrap6789
    @agonyremnanttrap6789 Před 2 měsíci +66

    Mantis and Shifu: Are we a joke to you?

    • @bobdohuu9711
      @bobdohuu9711 Před 2 měsíci +8

      The chicken in the 3rd movie to the chameleon: that's called skill issue

    • @Luigisuperx7100
      @Luigisuperx7100 Před měsícem

      It's master chicken ​@@bobdohuu9711

  • @Grayman2003
    @Grayman2003 Před 2 měsíci +66

    One thing I’m not sure anyone has talked about is the sheer poetic irony behind each of the villain’s defeats (prior to this one)
    Tai Lung dedicated his entire life towards obtaining the dragon scroll, but was defeated by Po when he rejected its true meaning
    Lord Shen wiped out every Panda to avoid his fate, but by doing so only sealed it by starting Po’s journey to find inner peace
    General Kai was obsessed with having all of the chi in the world, but was destroyed once he had more chi than he could handle
    The Chameleon just gets oneshot by Po’s staff when he remembers he isn’t a moron 💀

    • @CadeDutton
      @CadeDutton Před 2 měsíci +1

      zhen used the rules of the streets againset her

    • @GyattsumakiOPM
      @GyattsumakiOPM Před 20 dny

      She got good rule 34,she would make a killing on OnlyFans

  • @alphasaiyanrex1616
    @alphasaiyanrex1616 Před 2 měsíci +54

    Honestly the whole “I was too small” reason could’ve worked like she would realize that there are Kung Fu Masters who were smaller than her and she would find out how hypocritical and Biased the Kung Fu masters she spoke to were

  • @Buzzinga827
    @Buzzinga827 Před 2 měsíci +110

    It’s so disappointing that she doesn’t even have a good motivation like the other villains in the series tai lung was promised a title he would never receive lord shen tried to stop his fate and was banished Kai felt betrayed by oogway who he loved like a brother and wanted revenge for his betrayal BUT THE CHAMELEONS ONLY MOTIVATION IS THAT NO ONE WANTED TO TEACH HER KUNG-FU.

    • @CheezDoodlezz
      @CheezDoodlezz Před 2 měsíci +17

      Because she was small BUT what about Mantis? Viper? Their tiny af and they were taught Kung Fu and Po fat af and he became the dragon warrior its so stupid and i heard the Chameleon was gonna be the most dangerous villain in the franchise and fu k no she weren’t

    • @Buzzinga827
      @Buzzinga827 Před 2 měsíci +9

      @@CheezDoodlezz something i also hate about the chameleon is that she barely had any screen time

    • @fearfulclan2007
      @fearfulclan2007 Před 2 měsíci +6

      ​@@CheezDoodlezzBruh Mantis and Viper were taken in

    • @fearfulclan2007
      @fearfulclan2007 Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@Buzzinga827She had more screen time than Kai

    • @mr.darkassassin7997
      @mr.darkassassin7997 Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@CheezDoodlezzYeah The only good thing about The Chameleon is her powers and design tho well most of about her is ruined by her backstory execution this is the part where they screwed up, I wish they could've made her characterization better

  • @Ribidheavy
    @Ribidheavy Před 2 měsíci +32

    Bro imagine working like all day for months to animate the chameleon (dreamworks said it was very hard to animate) then people said chameleon the worst villian ever

    • @Fatsaver
      @Fatsaver Před 2 měsíci +12

      All it takes is non-existant writing and terrible directing to mess up your hard work.

    • @tatarchan5212
      @tatarchan5212 Před měsícem +6

      She looks cool, there's no debate about that.
      however, her battle, her arc, her motivation and her fighting style is TRASH.
      It's 100% writer fault, not the animator.

    • @trololoev
      @trololoev Před 15 dny

      @@tatarchan5212 her fight before turning in dragon are pretty cool.

  • @user-wk2rt3qj8f
    @user-wk2rt3qj8f Před 2 měsíci +17

    Honestly, if they cut the dragon shapeshifting part out in the final part, nothing would change lol

  • @pipaliveshere
    @pipaliveshere Před 2 měsíci +12

    didn't watch the movie but holy moly the chameleons desigb tickles my brain a lot, it's so pretty. while the fox's design is basic asf and i kinda hate it☠️☠️anyways, fun video! keep up the good work!!:D

  • @trinityleadershipproducts3255
    @trinityleadershipproducts3255 Před měsícem +6

    That thumbnail got me dying.

  • @Mr.Forzgaz34
    @Mr.Forzgaz34 Před 2 měsíci +11

    When i first watched this movie, i wanted to get out of the theaters so badly.

    • @RF-tw7jb
      @RF-tw7jb Před 2 měsíci

      This is pretty bad compared to the others

  • @user-dc1qg5lo7r
    @user-dc1qg5lo7r Před 2 měsíci +6

    1:20 Tbf Zhen probably sneaked into the Jade Palace to steal Po’s staff. The Chameleon only needed the staff, not Po. Befriending Po was probably a plan B or Zhen thinking quickly in the prison.

    • @maximoesco
      @maximoesco  Před 2 měsíci +3

      ur honestly right, i just thought it would be funnier to explain the plan that way.

  • @kingillager
    @kingillager Před měsícem +1

    2:22 "and she's very tiny, like the size of my p- p- p- pinky finger" bro was hesitating 💀

  • @djuairiahmahram1412
    @djuairiahmahram1412 Před měsícem +3

    Hmm... a student get rejected by his teacher and become a vilain, sounds........very familiar

  • @salved2212
    @salved2212 Před 3 dny +1

    What Villain's motivation is stupider?
    Doofenshmirtz (2nd Dimension): I lost my Choo Choo
    Chameleon: iM SMOL

    • @RanchMonarch
      @RanchMonarch Před 19 hodinami

      Dr. Doodenshmirtz had a lot of other bad things happen to him and a terrible childhood that drove him to villainy. He was also an excellent father who gave his daughter everything that he didn’t have. These two villains are not comparable.

    • @salved2212
      @salved2212 Před 18 hodinami

      @@RanchMonarch I talk about Doofenshmirtz from 2nd dimensión, not the original Doofenshmirtz. Did you see Phineas and Ferb: Across the 2nd dimension?

    • @RanchMonarch
      @RanchMonarch Před 7 hodinami

      @@salved2212 Yes, I did see that movie, and I didn’t read that part of your comment. But while that may have been what he believed to be his main reason for villainy, he probably had an upbringing quite similar to our Doofenshmirtz. The train was probably the straw that broke the camel’s back.

  • @Lycan_of_1941
    @Lycan_of_1941 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I rewrote her character to make sense. Plus the story. To make it better. Ever since after watching the film.

  • @KArt0n_V2
    @KArt0n_V2 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Like the time i came to the cinema and then we just was thinking waiting for the fight scene it was so little part of the fight scene which was sad ;-;

  • @Atlan73
    @Atlan73 Před měsícem +2

    The worst thing is literally that the stakes are non-existing! if Po just TRIED a bit harder from the start, he would've killed the Chameleon with a single attack, he doesn't even need the effing staff! he is already at Oogway's level, he can just chill and win against the strongest enemies in the verse, Kung Fu Panda 4 was a NICE movie at best, and helped me wash away that god-awful Megamind and the crime syndicates or whatever, also Jack Black is always a bless to hear so that was nice too... somehow i didn't even HATED the aqua fina character wich is a first for me, i was able to bear with her despite the fact i did found her annoying and too predictable, and so yeah the fact the Chameleon is so weak EVEN with everything she absorbed is baffling, if Po just tried or decided to attack her seriously in her monster form, he would've won immediately, that's it, sorry for the long comment, great video.

  • @child_eat_er
    @child_eat_er Před měsícem

    I never wanted a villain to lose so badly

  • @planetstraight184
    @planetstraight184 Před měsícem +2

    Wtf happened to dream works bro, 2 years sgo they created the best villain ever but now its gone down 😭

  • @sargeman
    @sargeman Před měsícem

    Imagine the movie just ended when po just stayed at valley and didn’t have let out zhen

  • @herkimerlloyd7332
    @herkimerlloyd7332 Před 2 měsíci +2

    She didn't even say "i wanna take over the world" she was like "steal awsome looking moves, muahhahah"

    • @CadeDutton
      @CadeDutton Před 2 měsíci

      she said "everybody will know the name of the chameleon" were you sleep in theaters

    • @herkimerlloyd7332
      @herkimerlloyd7332 Před 2 měsíci

      @@CadeDutton even that isn't taking over the world. That's wanting to be well known

    • @CadeDutton
      @CadeDutton Před 2 měsíci

      @@herkimerlloyd7332 she had a monolauge about taking over the world

  • @digits9010
    @digits9010 Před 2 měsíci +1

    instead of the chameleon being bitter about her size, she could’ve been physically disabled. that sort of circumstance would make more sense as to why the chameleon was deterred from becoming a kung fu master, and her trauma and subsequent turn to sorcery would have more weight to it. she was never able to foster fighting skills on her own, but maybe she discovered she had a talent for sorcery. she learns that she can steal the kung fu of great masters with her unique abilities, realizes that through this she could finally be recognized as a powerful/worthy figure, which is the catalyst for how the movie begins. we could see her in the movie stripping power from those who cared for her, killing anyone who attempts to stop her from finally living up to her dream. when shes absorbed enough strength to become a kung fu master her ambitions grow larger and she wants now to be the most powerful warrior there is. she doesn’t have to be evil for the sake of evil, raising and training zhen to perfection could’ve been the chameleons way of recognizing herself in the fox and wanting to give her something that she wasn’t allowed at that age (her empathy would differentiate her from the other villains.) furthermore, i believe that SHE should have been the new dragon warrior. Zhen can still fill the same role throughout most of the film, and the audience is still led to believe that zhen will be the dragon warrior bc it just seems so obvious given how talented she is at kung fu, but if written well enough the chameleon being reformed could’ve been the perfect resolution that also leaves room for the two more movies that dreamworks wants to make out of this franchise. we wouldn’t expect it because every other villain of the last 3 films was evil through and through and even chose death over changing their ways. The chameleon could be a refreshing break in the kfp formula and mark for a change in the kfp universe. the chameleon has introduced an entirely new fighting system than the already established kung fu, a system that allows the physically disadvantaged an opportunity to cultivate an unconventional strength. chameleon as the next dragon warrior would enforce a change that would expand combat further than kung fu and open up opportunities for more aspiring warriors that they wouldn’t be afforded otherwise. Po just also shouldn’t be able to choose the next dragon warrior, bc he wasn’t chosen by any particular character. it was “destined” or the “universe,” which makes it all the more frustrating when shifu tells po to choose a successor. (Shifu out of all characters should recognize that it’s not rlly a choice lol.) so maybe po thinks that zhen should be his successor for a good portion of the movie, but he finds out he’s wrong when met with chameleon. anyways, chameleon wouldve been a lot more satisfying as an antagonist if she were even a little bit more fleshed out.

  • @koreancowboy42
    @koreancowboy42 Před měsícem +1

    Chameleon is copied of Shen trying to rule all of china and Kai, trying to steal spirits and kung fu. Also its funny she uses the excuse of being small.
    Mantis, Sifu, Viper, Master Chicken. Its like brah.
    Also she pushed a person down the stairs, while Tai Lung laid waste to the valley of peace in kung fu panda 1. While in kung fu Panda 2 Shen commits genocide, in Kung fu panda 3 Kai is an warlord and experienced fighter and warrior like Oogway.

  • @YoitzAdrian
    @YoitzAdrian Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great video bro! Keep up the good work!

  • @Orlando1440
    @Orlando1440 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I Actually kinda liked the Chameleon, but what I didn’t get is that why did mantis not get rejected to learn kung fu he is smaller than the chameleon. But me and my friends liked the chameleon as a villian but will never be as good as tai lung

  • @Liam-tf3bq
    @Liam-tf3bq Před 2 měsíci +4

    Agreed, even though i like kung fu panda 4

  • @SB992REBORN
    @SB992REBORN Před měsícem +1

    Her size WASNT the issue and problem this villain faced. And the film RIGHTFULLY did NOT make her seem like a joke off other people and laugh about. She was feared and serious and it was because nobody believed when she was fear and threat and it showed in the flashback sequence and the MAIN "PROBLEM" with the film is that she's not in it enough and I want to have #DreamWorks #UniversalStudios #KungFuPanda #extendedcut #KungFuPanda3 #KungFuPanda4 an extended cut to show her more and give her more fight scenes! She's a more threatening villain and is treated with more direct seriousness than Kai in the third and her plan is even somewhat the same as Kai except it's ressurection of dead souls instead of possession of jade bodies and the final fight with the exception in 3 with Kai vs Po is more serious and not funny and it's more awesome and violent and hits more about Pos emotional journey in it too. Give her another chance guys. Rewatch the movie n You'll see it!

  • @kingillager
    @kingillager Před měsícem

    1:14 The Chameleon got them braincells

  • @TheFloraBonBon
    @TheFloraBonBon Před měsícem +1

    Why not let the fox character be the chameleon in disguise, betray Po. But feel sad in a way to the point on not understanding why because she was put down all her life an doesn't know genuine kindness.
    For her backstory, instead of multiple Kung fu masters rejecting her for her size, have it just be one master where she lived an once admired as an orphan. But be rejected because that master viewed short creatures as weak an kicked her out.
    Po then defeats her, but gives her a second chance after she serves her time in prison to learn kung fu an use it for good.

  • @loodgack
    @loodgack Před 2 měsíci +3

    yeah, this movie's plot is insanely bad and lazy writing
    to mantis, I'd add Shifu too
    also, where was Oogway all along?

  • @ethanb4ughan
    @ethanb4ughan Před 2 měsíci +2

    I agree with the video except Tai Lung did get a cool fight scene before getting one hit

  • @Cinderpelt2036
    @Cinderpelt2036 Před měsícem +1

    I think we need a video of " why fenghuang is the best female kung fu panda villain than Chameleon"

  • @borntoclimb7116
    @borntoclimb7116 Před 2 měsíci +11

    Puss in Boots 2 was a great sucess by DreamWorks and now we have this Kung Fu Panda 4 Thing...

    • @Toxicguyofall
      @Toxicguyofall Před 2 měsíci +4

      Well at least the animation was good

  • @mysteries_117
    @mysteries_117 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I like the ideas for the characters but not the execution

  • @doomer3257
    @doomer3257 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Literally anything from the LOA series has more depth than her.

  • @Necronomicon354
    @Necronomicon354 Před měsícem +2

    The chameleon might be a Dumb Villain but you have to admit SHE IS HOT!🔥

  • @ocarinaplaya
    @ocarinaplaya Před měsícem

    I'm surprised Viola Davis is still getting acting roles considering how badly The Woman King bombed with tons of controversy behind it.

  • @somebody4952
    @somebody4952 Před měsícem

    Honestly, her appearing in the bar feels like it could've really worked under a different direction.
    Imagine if the stakes are, instead, that she was tormenting this town and they needed saving. Then there's this bar scene where they are worrying about this criminal overlord, one of them acting normal. Then, that person leaves and, partway through their exit, reverts to their chameleon form. Now suddenly the crew is left realizing the person they bad mouthed was not only able to blend in among them, but had enough knowledge to resemble one of their friends visually and socially.
    Of course, in this case she'd have to go from a martial artist to an assassin type of character, but I still feel like this could've helped her stand out from what the movie originally did

  • @shockdrake
    @shockdrake Před 2 měsíci +1

    I know Chameleon is angry at being small.
    Reason for Chameleon did not stop villainous act even after get more Powers is she is just like Shen?

  • @gloriannavargas7536
    @gloriannavargas7536 Před měsícem

    All of you people just don't get it, the reason why the chameleon is rejected by kung fu classes is because she is chameleon! Come on people that's a very good example of why she was trying to become powerful and strong.

  • @trololoev
    @trololoev Před 15 dny

    actually in can be better story about redemption and finding true potential if at the end Po made Chameleon the dragon warrior. She rob bandits, Zhen rob normal people. Zhen traitoring Po then traitoring Chameleon. Chameleon kill less people that Po or Zhen that kill many soldiers by throwing them off the cliff. Chameleon do everything to become better at kung-fu, unlike Zhen.
    Also Po showing all cinema that he give second chance to everyone, so ending look strange where he decide to kill already defeated Chameleon, when she begging them for mercy. And if they didn't kill her it look even more strange to send her to spirit plane, because she literally can one-shot spirits and steal their powers.

  • @Adrian_1751
    @Adrian_1751 Před 2 měsíci

    Apparently in the movie the chameleon can't just take the staff because "its powers don't work if its taken, it only works if its given". Thats why she had to get zhen to be given it so zhen would give her it.

    • @Adrian_1751
      @Adrian_1751 Před 2 měsíci

      Its such a cheap way to make the plot happen

  • @matsuromeame4307
    @matsuromeame4307 Před 2 měsíci +1

    thats make sense

  • @santiagolopez3909
    @santiagolopez3909 Před 2 měsíci

    Nonsense. The Chameleon a magic wielder, thus it is no surprise that she can summon back dead warriors from the Sprit Realm with her sorcery in a world where that level of witchcraft exists.

  • @Chevalierofwhatever-kd9cq
    @Chevalierofwhatever-kd9cq Před 2 měsíci +3

    nice channel my man.

  • @green-legacy
    @green-legacy Před 2 měsíci +1

    thats the perfect excuse for being a villain since why should other small characters be able to learn kungfu but not her

  • @evilgamemichaelsperling8736

    Laugh my ass off if po knew Zhin's betrayed & wont her be Dragon Warrior
    Po got point be A master vibe now

  • @RedEarthOfficial
    @RedEarthOfficial Před 2 měsíci

    4:21 If Tigress Didn't Bring Her To The Jade Palace I Don't Think He Would've Been Accepted, And He Didn't Even Want To Learn Kung-Fu Before Tigress Brought Him At The Palace

  • @Quentinthesmartgamer1916
    @Quentinthesmartgamer1916 Před 2 měsíci

    Here is my thought of how she could have been made better: Her backstory: She would have been an orphan who have lost her parents during a war she tried to become a kung fu master and after getting rejected she started studying dark magic and dark ways and after becoming powerful as an adult she tried to become a dark kung fu master it led to her getting banished for studying dark magic and swore revenge that she would try to take over the world as a new kung fu master leader of the world. Thats the best i could do.

  • @jamiethompson6084
    @jamiethompson6084 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Literally all points are Wong

  • @LeoSuper2
    @LeoSuper2 Před 2 měsíci

    I mean Kung Fu Panda 4 was my favourite of all the movies

  • @Smiling_chicken_stealer
    @Smiling_chicken_stealer Před 2 měsíci +2

    That is a villan?

  • @Strawberry-Tanghulu
    @Strawberry-Tanghulu Před 2 měsíci +1

    Cool

  • @herkimerlloyd7332
    @herkimerlloyd7332 Před 2 měsíci

    She ain't even mantis size. Compare her and fox lady then compare chifu and fox lady. I could argue chifu has shorter arms than her, that don't stop him!

  • @mr.randomandrandomstuff7909
    @mr.randomandrandomstuff7909 Před 2 měsíci

    Me pull a gun!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @d4red3v1l8
    @d4red3v1l8 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I loved the film and the villain was honestly okay. But I feel like it would be better if Po died tbh lol, it did sound like he was gonna die because Tai lung literally said “see you on the other side.” Which could be teasing for a 5th film where he joins Tai Lung.

  • @Quentinthesmartgamer1916
    @Quentinthesmartgamer1916 Před měsícem

    What about constance backstory?

  • @TheLBSCE2
    @TheLBSCE2 Před 2 měsíci +1

    po or else

  • @Smiling_chicken_stealer
    @Smiling_chicken_stealer Před 2 měsíci +1

    Shen wannabe

  • @keanmikaelsantiago1553
    @keanmikaelsantiago1553 Před měsícem

    Still better then megamind 2 atleast the animation is good megamind 2 has bad animation and plot

  • @Rexy923
    @Rexy923 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Po

  • @shivayapersad7417
    @shivayapersad7417 Před 2 měsíci +1

    po

  • @hiranpeiris877
    @hiranpeiris877 Před 2 měsíci +2

    a

  • @fearfulclan2007
    @fearfulclan2007 Před 2 měsíci

    I actually really enjoyed this movie and it's way better than the 3rd movie. The new Ghostbusters movie was horrible and wasn't as good as Afterlife.

  • @Ninjago-News
    @Ninjago-News Před 2 měsíci

    Mid

  • @SurprisedBarnOwl-lh3fj
    @SurprisedBarnOwl-lh3fj Před 2 měsíci

    Look here no one is asking you to watch it if you dont like it . The creater trided their best . Like you could make a better movie . Just go watch another movie if it is not good for your eyes or mind

    • @maximoesco
      @maximoesco  Před 2 měsíci +1

      i honestly really enjoyed the movie, in the end of the video i stated that. This was just my opinion on the villain.

    • @Hazehyuga88
      @Hazehyuga88 Před 2 měsíci

      Boo hoo😭 I think kfp 3 was way better than the fourth because it at least had a good lesson,turn yourself into you,idk what the lesson is about like, the SIDE PLOT was better than the main plot like c’mon

  • @thesexychokingmrkrabbz8213
    @thesexychokingmrkrabbz8213 Před měsícem

    See personally how I see it was that she’s not really meant to be that good of a villain , I think they needed an easy villain for the new dragon warrior to take on and focus on zhen instead of the villain . Shifu even says that it’s a furious 5 job not a dragon warrior issue . Like

  • @Daniel_0923.
    @Daniel_0923. Před 2 měsíci +1

    Po

  • @VisibleSilly
    @VisibleSilly Před 16 dny

    po

  • @sharkfamtv5632
    @sharkfamtv5632 Před měsícem +1

    Po

  • @Johantolentinowithcody
    @Johantolentinowithcody Před měsícem

    Po