The DARK SIDE of Minecraft's Marketplace - Everything Exposed...
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- The Minecraft Marketplace has been shrouded in mystery for quite some time. What goes on behind the scenes hasn't been publicly known... until now.
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0:00 - Intro
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3:15 - Getting Content Removed is Hard…
6:44 - Technical Issues
8:10 - How Much Money do Marketplace Creators Make?
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Bedrock was really a mixed bag of goods and bads. The marketplace being one of the bads.
Honestly I always chose to ignore its existence.
*I don’t buy stuff from games
Marketplace? What marketplace?
I only get the free packs, and I don’t use half of them for long tbh
The maps they release for each update are well-made and fun though
@@dcincco yeah all the free packs kinda are bad quality. I’m too broke 4 java tho sooooooooo guess ill live with Bedrock vanilla 24/7
@@green29373 you get java free with bedrock now???
Hey, one of Faithful's managers here. Faithful has been probably one of the largest victims of Marketplace product theft. Our case is an unfortunate one as we took a long delay of time to recover contact with Vattic (original creator of Faithful) to finally sort this all out. Some of us weren't even in the community before we tried to regain contact. Ever since our case got exposed, numerous other questionable products were highlighted on the marketplace. Covering this topic is always great to see. I can't even begin to outline all of the problems we have been having with Mojang, particularly with its apparent refusal to cut ties with its creators when they are knowingly and willingly causing trouble for financial gain. It's a really shitty situation to deal with.
Well
Faithful still needs Mojang's eyes to do something about this issue
Also
Fuck Kraineff
mad respect
I think he made a video about this
@@SoniWyd believe that was antvenom
@@DeSlagen8 oh right
Microsoft really has changed the focus of Minecraft Bedrock. Crazy.
*mojang
@@silverhed9993 The parent company of Mojang Studios is Microsoft Corporation.
This has been the case since September 2014 after a 2.5 billion dollar deal.
Billion dollar company
@@silverhed9993 Microsoft mainly runs bedrock
@@silverhed9993 Microsoft*
If Mojang was independant the story of minecraft would be way different and actually far better
As someone who has made a good few skins, I am sickened by the amount of stolen skins on the marketplace. Ive actually found one of the skins I use on some random bedrock skin pack before
same I would be so annoyed if the skins that I made were just stolen.
Thats why i stopped using skins on the marketplace and only use the ones i create for myself
I made a map for the marketplace once, was a ton of work for only a tiny return, decided to focus on CZcams instead where I have more control over my content.
edit: microsoft takes about 70% really, and of that remaining 1/3, part is taken by the publisher and a part is taken by the company you partnered with, and if you make a taxable amount of money from that, the federal goverment will take 1/2 of whatever is left of that so me as the map creator got perhaps 7 cents from a 99 cent map. you can see why I decided not to work for 3 months publish a second one.
damn
yep that's why I decided to work at a fixed rate as a contractor. I definitely don't want to deal with all the trash that is revenue sharing
Wait, what! Literally SPOTIFY pays more than that!
We can't even make the 3d terraria jokes anymore, it's now blocky roblox.
Wow, they really need to get some shit in to legally protect us creators, because this joke of a payment should never ever be allowed to exist, not even people working for scrip long ago got paid this low
It was, it is and it will be always about money. Even if they own billions of dollars it would be still not enough for them. It is just pathetic, disgusting and disappointing how Marketplace is destroying the reputation of Minecraft Bedrock Edition
Bedrock edition is basically Microsoft’s money machine.
what a way with words
@@Hue_Sam same as Windows, Microsoft Office and etc. It is overpriced software! Especially when you can use free and open source alternatives such as Only Office, GNU/Linux
The FOSS software in most is better than paid closed source
I'm sorry I can have mistakes, But I'm learning English
I can't believe the cut is that much, I feel like Microsoft is gonna be mad when they find out about this video, nice content as always!
Honestly though, I thought that the creators got the lion's share of the money not the other way around.
The fact that Microsoft rakes in most of the profits off of Marketplace content combined with their lack of care for stolen content really reinforces the belief that the Marketplace was mostly designed just to be a cash grab.
They own the game. If creators wanted a bigger cut, they can develop their own game. The majority of EULAs for games forbid a creator from making any money at all from add-on/mod development. Anyone creating for Java edition does it for free, and there is plenty of outside sources to get free bedrock content from as well. The rates don't surprise me at all, look at Robloxs split, or the rampant copyright infringement lol... Twitch even gives it's streamers a 70/30 cut just for providing the service while the streamers do all the work pulling in subs.. These videos are a bit over the top and over dramatized imo
@@Adam-uu5pt Do you think your boss should take 62.5 percent of your paycheck, and not even give you so much as a paystub? For what, just hosting a content creation platform? If yes, then good luck finding anyone short of unethical, because who would want more than half of your work invalidated, just because your boss said so.
@Bonniebell Roberts we hate microsoft. And yoy pay taxes right?
@@Adam-uu5pt Do you just not understand this or something? Microsoft is getting MORE MONEY by simply publishing the map compared to the people who put their hard work into it. Sure, they own the game but in no way does that make any of this acceptable. These videos are perfectly displaying the dark nature underneath the marketplace.
The fact that "the player is not allowed to feel bad" is just... such a bad rule. I don't wanna be that guy, but when society tries to curate things to the point where all negative feelings are not supposed to occur, that is an incredibly toxic environment. Did they seriously not think about the deeper implications of this? I mean, sure, this is just some stupid little map in a block game. But its part of a wider, rather disturbing trend. Sad to see that Mojang too has hopped on that one.
While i agree this is bad...."society"? seriously?
its true tho
I'm feeling a lit-
*USER HAS BEEN DELETED DUE TO TOXIC NEGATIVITY*
*-MOJANG*
Literally 1984 moment
@@flow185 it’s a disturbing trend. Just because it was noticed in a silly block game doesn’t mean it isn’t concerning. This is also happening on CZcams and other social media sites as well. Everything needs to be censored and non-offensive as to appease the advertisers.
Little extra info for the bad internet since TheMisterEpic has good internet. When failed to login (game logs you out after a short while once bad/no internet), the worlds you have played on (that are marketplace content), with have a lock symbol beside it. Attempting to open the world, brings up "Purchase world Template?" screen
THATS BAD HOLYYYY
Okay, this enrages me. I've been raised to know that if I have to have a constant internet connection to play a game, I should never play it, and this is just fuel for the fire right there.
Yea! And if the original content is deleted u cant play atall
@@Staterra.X it literally does that tho
@@Staterra.X L
Microsoft's cut on all sales for the marketplace rate was what caught me off guard the most. I did not expect it to be so significantly that bad. This is why we can't have one version of Minecraft. I would be afraid of things like this going on to Java edition and being forced upon everyone. Thank you for this video as it spreads more awareness about how broken the system is
Thats why its important to curate and aknowledge Minecraft developer edition's existance. Most marketplace items are made using developer edition of Minecraft. There are so many features that a bedtock player could dream of.
Yeah the cut is quite bad, but at least its not as bad as Roblox... After all the math a dev on Roblox only makes 12.25% from purchase of the Robux to DevEx.
IMO the industry standard for any User Generated Content based system provided by the game/market developer should be at minimum 50/50 of course it should be way more but good luck with that.
Fun fact: due to app store fees the developers are actually taking more than Microsoft from the transaction when people buy it on mobile. (Apple/Google 30%, MS 32.5%, Developer 37.5%)
Of course this does not change the developer's situation, and I still think Microsoft is still taking way more than it should. And if you buy any marketplace goods on Windows/Xbox then Microsoft WILL take the full 62.5% cut, which is ridiculous.
as a bedrock edition player it is quite sad how all this happens inside the market place
Now, I play only Java edition with mods. Last modpacks I played was ATM3 lite and ATM7.
It's sad that my friends who don't have PCs can't play with mods with me. And sad that Bedrock shit can't be played on Linux.
@@soupborsh8707 nobody asked
@@clankstar3788 I did
@@king_nubert4381 you are nobody
This is exactly why I never play on bedrock, I hope Microsoft doesn't do this other games too.
That’s like hoping it doesn’t rain while there’s a hurricane outside
*laughs* it's already happening my dude, look at Halo infinite's "premium" "content"
Java will soon have the same thing. U cant escape from microtransactiions
@@GaemingStudios nah, java players have huge freedom, won't happen, it will just be chat reports situation v2
@@GaemingStudios nope, because of the more open nature of Java, people can easily get access to older versions, so even if newer versions started to become MTX-Filled, people can still get older versions and play them with no problems, and even if the Launcher removed older versions, people have them archived and third-party launchers exist and thus it just wouldn't affect you if you want to get rid of something. access to older versions is easy
How the Hell are you supposed to tell a good story where the player is not allowed to “feel bad?”
Dont want to make the twitter users mad now do we
I think cause the game is so focused for kids nowadays due to its really easy access for every platform. That angry moms could launch an attack or smth lol
@@rainbowflash5937 I get that, but stories have conflict, drama, and morals.
It’s literally impossible to tell a good story that makes the listener feel good all throughout.
@@GaffsNotLaffs i totally know what you mean if you know Enderal then you may very understand how this games story is all about question your moral choices and leaving you questioning your whole lifes existence haha.
I love stories who make you question things. A story where everything is clear from the very beginning is just boring.
The best stories are always the ones that make us look within ourselves
9:07 Keep in mind that on some platforms the app stores already take 30%. So on Android for example 30% goes to Google, 32.5% goes to Microsoft and 37.5% goes to the third party.
Edit: math
From what TheMisterEpic phrased it, I thought Microsoft was going to get the full store cut then give a tiny bit to the 3rd party
37.5% to third party*
@@guncolony thanks
I don't thinks that's how it would work unless android (or others) are taking a cut of every single microtransaction sold on any app they put on their store. The Minecraft marketplace is independent from androids app store so there's no reason they would get the cut, so it probably all goes to Microsoft. Either that or they'd take a cut on the purchase of minecoin (whatever the currency is called) through the app store but not a cut from somebody purchasing a world or skin.
@@legend7951 Google and Apple take their cut when you buy minecoins.
Dang, you weren't kidding when you said that the Minecraft marketplace is dark. I thought Roblox stealing 30% of your earnings was the worst but it seems that I was wrong. I feel bad for the creators who work really hard on their maps, to only find out that 70% of their earnings get taken away.
I remember that Roblox took 90% before without builders club.
@@weirdochicknuggie9523 the dark side of builders club... good video right?
@@weirdochicknuggie9523 Dang that's is just a scam at this point.
wdym 30%
it's always been 80%+ on roblox
@@thespud1094 you obviously haven't played roblox since like 2016
I do marketplace work as a contractor for teams. the first team I worked with was absolutely trash. I was young at the time and very new to it all, so I just went with it. they kept asking me to share my ideas for the map, design game mechanics, & plan out a story. they kept telling me "Oh yeah we've got a build team on it", and things like that. I spent quite a few days on this and they never paid me or even followed up afterwards.
As someone who has played on bedrock for several years the market place seems like a very manipulative shop and with everyone wearing skins from the item shop it acts like some sort of peer pressure to get a skin
I have a feeling that the marketplace contributes to bedrocks lack of polish. Since java edition's revenue mainly comes from game sales, the java devs focus more on making the game as polished as possible. But bedrock's main source of income is the marketplace, so instead of polishing the main game, they focus on taking money from other people's work and make it more lucrative to sell trashy bootleg content that appeals to kids.
This is why i dont rly like games with in game stores incentives devs and modders push out buggy unpolished content for maximum profit
I don't even travel far from my base because traveling somewhere or entering the Nether can cause nametagged mobs to disappear. It's something to do with loading chunk-related stuff that when a mob is between two chunks when it reloads, it will despawn. Because there is no command in Bedrock to view chunks, we can't do anything to put those mobs with nametags inside a chunk to prevent this from happening.
Minecraft bedrock isn't free tho, so the source income is not only from markeplace but also the base game you have to purchase just like java.
If you think about it while I'd Assume Java sells worse than Bedrock as its available literally everywhere, Java on the other hand has a huge Internet following than Bedrock, The developers want to try to keep Java as good as it currently is. And I assume they wanna do the same for Bedrock. But Microsoft has a much tighter grip to bedrock I assume they get in the way alot.
Java would be the middle child for Mojang since it brings no money in except for realms, it is probably only still being developed so that they don't have to do anything with the java devs
And this is why I will always be a java player.
I've always seen the ability to create your own player skin as a foundational part of the game, and even if mine arent as good as some of the stuff youll find online I've always liked playing with a skin I made myself.
Even ignoring all the other stuff jammed into or carved out of the game, that by itself is already basically a dealbreaker for me.
the thing is that if u make ur own skin u will probably like it more than most of the other marketplace skins
Yeah, I've been using my winter outfit Steve for 4 years straight.
Can't do that on Bedrock though - at least not on the Switch.
@@thefongz2931 you can do it in the game though its more limited than online skin creators. Go to "dressing room", "edit character" then "character creator". There's still a lot of paid content but some things can be unlocked for free or with achievements. Its limited (and you need an internet connection to access the dressing room) but it does exist and I've been able to put together 2 skins that I like with only free/achievement stuff
Thank you for your good journalism! Even as a Java player, I feel like the marketplace taints the image of the game as a whole and is completely antithetical to the spirit of user created content for the game. I really hope there can be change!
The marketplace easily has to be one of the things I loathe about the direction Minecraft has gone in since the buyout happened. It's difficult to have genuine soul in something when there's a profit motive to be had.
Shock. Outrage. Etc.
Meanwhile, Spotify cuts are literally fractions of a penny per stream. Musicians make most of their money from touring. Streaming is the biggest way music is consumed today, and yet musicians get barely a fraction of the cut from streaming. Streaming income is essentially meaningless for a musician.
What I'm getting from all this: all creators are consistently getting screwed, while distributors are taking the majority of the cut. It's worse today than it ever was before.
All about money, and due to this, I don't think Microsoft will ever change the Marketplace.
Such a shame.
I agree. You’d think Microsoft already makes enough money, but it looks like they’re busy paying for their seventh solid gold hot tub.
Thx we need people like u to expose them
Im half tempted to take what im learning from my schooling about web design and make a website for market place creators that is specifically for bedrock players to upload worlds mod packs skin packs texture packs and make it accessible on xbox and PlayStation in time to remove the corruption of market place by making it community owned and ran
Isn't that just curseforge?
This guy makes the most entertaining videos it’s like a short documentary
skin packs are pointless- when the fact on bedrocks mineplex dosent let you use your owne skin packs and just overights it into there owne one, -i think you have to pay the server for you to use your owne skin?
I had that issue once with a my own imported skin on The HIve. Apparently, if the bottom layer is transparent (even if the top layer isn't), one of their store skins will replace yours. Some years ago, the skin that I was using randomly stopped working one day (being replaced by one of The Hive's skins), so I had to troubleshoot by changing skins while actually on the server (as opposed to setting the skin in Minecraft's main menu, then joining the server). Doing this gave me a nice pop-up saying something like "your skin is illegal", so I fixed the skin by dumping the color gray on the entire bottom skin layer, and "reported" the issue to The Hive.
You seeing this exact effect on another server might mean two things: 1. It's an interface made by Mojang that the server can use to stop "illegal" skins, and 2. Mojang have not fixed it for years.
To be fair though, my skin image was out of the normal convention, but the bottom layer's transparent pixels could have been rendered fully black like how full blocks with transparent textures (supplied by a resource pack) render fully black, or by how the Java Edition renders the bottom layer of skins black even if they are transparent.
I find it funny how the marketplace doesn't allow military themed things yet in the official skin pack 5 from the original console editions they is over 10 military themed skins all based off real life factions.
Hypocrisy at its finest
@@WokioWolfy logic left the chat:
Honestly not even surprised, Mojang is just acting like any other big company these days. I'm honestly quite surprised its taken people this long to recognize the transformation, although to be fair its only become noticeable in the past 5 or so years.
@@AwesomeGuy344 no, it's mojang who started and doing this marketplace staff
@@iwitas Probably a Microsoft decision to add micro transactions to bedrock, I dont think Mojang would be this corrupt when it came to the Marketplace.
This is just sad, microsoft sometimes just makes my blood boil.
Yup there's a reason why bedrock community is always so hated.
How about Minecraft didn't added chat reporting instead they added Marketplace content reporting
trueeeeeee
Yes please
Do you agree with me people?
@@Skycrafter92533 there are 2 yeses, so yes.
yes
Great job! It's about time someone exposed how shady the marketplace is on bedrock. The great thing about java Minecraft is all custom content is free and directly from the players creating it.
this is why i quit bedrock and minecraft overall its just not "bedrock" in a way anymore its "big money bag" for microsoft :(
"Information which if shared, would likely result in the Marketplace being terminated."
I'd share it in a heartbeat. No way in hell Mojang is going to fix it anytime soon. To quickly elaborate, Mojang and Microsoft obviously know the current issues since they also appear to be causing most of them but are too money hungry to care. It's time to take action. Plenty videos similar to this go viral but they still don't seem to care. Rather than complaining about everything wrong with the game, shine the spotlight on Mojang and properly call them out.
The drama with the community creators reminds me of how I was banned from Warcraft; a corrupt GM re-opened my account when I closed it temporarily and was actively trying to sell my characters, would have never found out if my old raid guild hadnt been keeping an eye out for me to come back. Going through Accounts and Billing, they kept trying to deny anything shady was going on and maybe one of my friends had re-activated my account for me, then admitting the credit card was stolen and getting really evasive about how my account had been re-opened. When I demanded the card be reported as stolen, my account was permanently locked. Any query as to why has always had vauge responses as to why it was closed and I cant re-access my games. Sounds like those guys got hired by Microsoft.
i remember that Marketplace had some hint of original content,like the Secret Present Survival by Jigarbov (same with Minecon Earth) or even freaking Glitch Runners was really original
Many people know that Microsoft/Mojang got issues, but thanks to your videos they are put into perspectives.
A lot of content that i've gotten in the past has stopped working now because of minecraft updates, but you CAN STILL BUY THEM. So you could spend around $10 on a broken map, and you wouldn't even know it was broken until after you bought it.
For example: the bedrock FTB Stoneblock map has broken conveyor belts, making it impossible to automate some things, I reported this bug to the devs months ago and it still hasn't been fixed.
Edit: The Stoneblock map has been fixed :)
Sometimes they are slow on removing broken content. Also it just beocmes unlisted so you can still access it anyways. There is a fix for you to make the map work again (pc only). Downgrade to an older version that you know the map works on (can be done using the program MCLaucher). Also fixes have to go through a review process just like if it was a new content item
Lmao, mojang being to stupid to let stuff work all the time
As someone who had their textures sold within the unofficial Faithful pack on the Marketplace without knowledge for a long time and received little support when it came to my attention, I’m disgusted by Microsoft and the Marketplace. The amount of creators who have been wronged by the pathetic system Microsoft has put in place is unacceptable.
Marketplace is really screwed up, it just feels like nfts lol
Also, some years ago a guy wasn't like, selling the 16x16 texture pack on marketplace without the original creator permission or something?
Thanks for sharing this! I've been making Minecraft content for years and almost every time I worked for a team they've screwed me over. I've also been blocked by MC Devs for calling them out for stealing and selling skin on the Market
We've got to keep this energy going and hope Microsoft will see and change! I'm tired of seeing my friends' work get sold for profit
The way marketplace creators are treated by Microsoft kind of reminds me of the debacle that was going on with the Roblox company, and how they would market that you can "earn serious cash" by monetizing your content, only for the creators to barely earn anything
Yeah people are better off learning actual programming languages like C# in unity. Plus I think roblox is gonna shut down before 2024.
Lowkey makes me want to run an experiment just to see how much one can make via machinegunning stolen content in the marketplace. Also see if there are any outside authorities that could be made to take action against such practices.
Please don't. I know one of those partners that are considered high quality content on the marketplace. People who try to wiggle their way in to make a quick buck are destorying the good people. No one knows how or why the people stealing got in. It didn't used to be that way for them.
@@ohhello937 I wouldn't put in the effort, but even if I did, Minecraft is in shambles right now anyway because of Mojang/Microsoft themselves. I don't think doing that would make much of a difference.
10:45
Actually non-disclosure agreements are a common thing for any tech company, they probably have other things to hide other tham stuff that everyone hides but it's not very concerning
If you have nothing to fear you have nothing to hide
@@nif4345 I agree bur I am saying that they have to hide it no matter if they want it or not
If you didn't also know, the Minecon 2019 Founder's Cape is or was 10,000,000 minecoin in the marketplace when it got unlisted
This is so sad 😭. As a bedrock player I'm fine with the marketplace but not with Microsoft's decisions on how to maintain the marketplace. I hope they fix this issue. Btw love your content, keep up the great work!
Btw it's not Microsoft it's Mojang
The no sharks pr person said that everything is Mojang's choice, they chose to become money hungry, yes minecoins too
This is consistent with other Microsoft owned companies that keep their automany like Rareware who chose no more Banjo and Kazooie
@@TechBlade9000 So also the fh ws areleeey cut by shzrks and cctv was taking a cut frm consistent automany rare tech
uh wat
Minecraft is slowly becoming an EA game fr
I bet electronic arts would’ve done much worse way sooner, but yeah in terms of money hunger your right about Microsoft
Microsoft moderation is really bad like Roblox, Microsoft locked my account for no reason!
and Microsoft ask me to enter phone number to unlock account
I hope there is no backlash for you posting this
Yeah, I hope microsoft doesn't attempt to take the videos or his entire channel down
@@leavemebevidsarecrappy9039 if they do it would give Microsoft even more backlash, they might as well ignore this as the careless company they are when it comes to Minecraft
@@tallkids-spencerhuyck179 It would, but every company does something stupid now and again
I remember when maps and skins were entirely free, and no one gave a damn if your skin was stolen from somewhere else. But of course, there’s now money on the table, so it all goes to shit, and is the exact reason why I stay in Java
Imagine being Notch seeing all this unfold, watching his creation be ruined.
Marketplace is possibly one of biggest reasons why I don't play bedrock edition. On java you get very talented creators that make amazing and fun mods that give player new experience, but marketplace turns your Minecraft the same way, except it starts feeling like you don't play Minecraft anymore. Not to mention everything in marketplace costs minecoins, and sometimes can lead to big scams.
its not hard to ignore the marketplace though. most of the time when i play on my switch, i cant even fucking access it because of the amount of shitty lag.
@@pencerism that's because Minecraft bedrock aren't exactly been optimised for the switch
That's because even Minecraft Java Edition running on 2 emulator on the Switch still have better performance than Minecraft bedrock edition on the switch
The First Emulator is the Android Emulator, the second emulator is the Java Emulator
This and the previous video only taught me one thing about the bedrock marketplace thing
by locking out the open community interaction for cross platform play they made the perfect place to scam kids out of their parents money
nothing easier than stealing candy from a baby or something like that
3 fixes for the Marketplace:
- Free tier
- Cut reduced to 25% or less
- Quality Control
After I heard they take 62.5% that was enough for me. Most all businesses take a 30% cut and ironically Microsoft only takes a 12% cut for game sales on the windows store. A 30% cut is quite steep and it really shouldn't be higher but if needed (such as in CZcamss case) it should only be as high as 45%.
last year i found that maps get unlisted instead of removed
there was a skin pack even more expensive than what you showed in the video xd
When Microsoft is becoming EA be like:
dude I swear the background music at 5:00 is the stuff they play at those AMC theaters before the movie
I knew it was bad, but I didn't realize it was _this_ bad. Saying "oh yeah we assume they have the proper copyright permissions" and then taking over half the profit shouldn't be allowed. There's no way this should be legal.
The more I hear about bedrock's BS the more I'm glad I just play Java. Free mods and customization will always trump this BS for kids.
enjoy it before it merges with bedrock
@@darkjanggo Mojang wants to keep the Java Edition. It's one thing to mirror the phrase "content creators (youtubers) play Java", it's another thing to say that the Java Edition is in the best position for genuine innovation within Minecraft due to mod authors being able to manipulate the game in truly infinite ways. Meanwhile, the Marketplace's modding API only allows REGISTERED BUSINESSES to manipulate the game in ways that are defined by Mojang. I would only guess that Mojang is constantly expanding the capabilities of the API and tools to use it, but Java Edition content creation allows literally anyone (say, a talented 8 year-old kid) to inject into the game's code directly, no matter how unstable (aka, incompatible with other mods) the client or server will be afterwards. Seriously, a group managed to replace Java's OpenGL renderer with *Vulkan* for crying out loud!
Bedrock has that as well but it's harder to find (MCPEDL is a good start)
I would be in full support if mod makers started their own Patreon or some place to donate, so we can fund their development without any censorship and better cut of their work. In fact, let me just straight up buy mods from them for Java.
Problem is, no one will support them then. Java modders have patreons and places to donate already but everyone just wants their work for free. Then they are upset when the modders don't update things because they can't make a living off it. The reason marketplace works is that it actually provides money. It forces you to support the modder/artists. Look how many people say they "hate bedrock" because they can just get free stuff on java and not support the modders or artists.
@@ohhello937 yeah. People make money on marketplace but literally still no one used them. Like 92% of bedrock player never used them so... Yeah basically low earning actually.
@@ohhello937 and still bedrock is bad.
@@ohhello937 it's the same as bedrock. Almost no one used them.
@@alvinmokhram You’re completely wrong though. There are full game dev teams that run off the bedrock. If they can run a whole team of people full time, that’s not “low earnings” and no one using bedrock. It just proves if people paid modders in Java they’d get cooler stuff and more updates.
The Minecraft market place is like to Roblox catalog with classic shirts, pants, and t-shirts it that it it's flooded with similar sometimes direct copies of content which ultimately ends up with the search function being boarder line useless and unless the marketplace can get it's act together it will simply end up in a state where it's basically impossible to fix due to just the sheer volume of the issue.
Wanted to make something for the marketplace when I first heard about the ability to do so. But from the start I started hearing stories like this even back then. So i never finished and will not continue because it's getting worse. So the map had been sitting on my old hdd collecting dust for years now.
It's clear that video games that have paid incentives are bound to fail. Creation Club, Last Bullet and the Minecraft Marketplace are just failures in that they promote themselves as paying modders but it's suspicious and scummy just for good PR
Wait, Last Bullet? That names sounds familiar but I can't place it, would you mind if I asked to to refresh my brain?
Yeah and That Recent Chat Report System coming to Java definitely was Microsoft other way of keeping its public image "Positivity with no negativity, this report system will keep all the little timmies from being bullied." And what is this about "The Player can't feel bad in maps, Theyll cry and we'll get sued", are they saying people can't feel other emotions but happiness and unicorns and rainbows. What is this preschool?
We kill monsters all the time in the main game. What's different about killing an NPC and feeling bad for them. Not everything in Sunshine and Rainbows, Certain Stories need some sort of Drama.
@@rickygamingproductions It's even funnier when you realize that while you can't call them names without being reported, you can instead go completely silent and just destroy their buildings, kill their wolves, cats and other animals, destroy their crops, build questionable buildings in their stead (like "That" symbol, Male Reproductive Organs, etc), harass them through signs and kill them endlessly and you can't be reported for that, which is much more hurtful to others than just calling them names as you're actually impacting their gameplay and directly making them not have fun.
I always had a hunch this system was flawed since I was a kid and bedrock first came out. Interesting to have my gut feeling confirmed.
Are you planning to make a video about mods for legacy versions such as Better Than Adventure, TheMasterCaver's World, or BetterCraft?
Bruh that’s how much marketplace partners get. I would give them more and if something was copyright i would make it so no one could get it.
Love your new videos about Minecraft dark side and p2w server keep up the good work
This need to be more know in the community
hi! In the part in 7:40 in bedrock on XBOX you sometimes can’t even look at the templates you bought and can only use the first three that show up.
Pray this video not taken down.
The marketplace was good when it first released, with content made by minecraft and previous skin packs, on top of pretty good maps and resource packs coming out for cheap. That lasted less than a year.
It doesn't always good. it still hated even if it's old.
@@alvinmokhram when it first released it contained only official content which wasnt that bad, but that lured people into a false sense of security as they began to allow others to posts maps, and regulations began to decrease
@@boid you kind of have point. And it's not as bad but yeah it still a scam when you compared to modern Java mod.
Now we know why Microsoft makes their creators sign a non-disclosure agreement...
It’s sad there isn’t any herobrine stuff allowed on the marketplace, a mod like from the fog would be great to mess with on console
Well Herobrine could pose a copyright issue
Banning people from discussing income is actually illegal under Washington state labor laws (a rare win for workers in the US), where Microsoft is headquartered. So is not sharing salary information before signing. Point is Microsoft are aware of how bad these practices are and aren't allowed to do that with many of their regular employees, but have no problem doing it to Marketplace creators
I usually just use an app (for mobile), or planet Minecraft. It’s the same thing, but free,
One of the bigger implementatinal flaws the marketplace has is that if you click the "Buy" button you've immediately bought it with no confirmation. That's especially a problem on mobile devices with little lower CPU power as they can sometimes recognize a swipe up (attempt to scroll) as a click on the "Buy" button fit starts/ends on that button. Why don't they follow their typical M$ path of the user needing to confirm several times before continuing? You know, some say of M$ that if they built a car and that got into a crash you had to confirm three times to pop the airbag out...
because profiting off of young and impressionable kids is a lucrative business. they don’t have to care, the money has already been made!
also, nice isometric pfp 🤝
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What do you mean with "isometric pfp"?!? I looked it up and got nothing useful...
😁
@@Lampe2020 isometric perspective is kind of a technical thing, but tl;dr it’s like viewing an object at a diagonal angle with really really low so all angles are equal. examples include the minecraft or unity logos
@@dynallene
Ah, so you mean my profile picture!
It's actually inspired of the Minecraft logo!
(because my channel's primary topic is Minecraft)
Every unregulated marketplace of sorts will always be full of copy paste content, copyright content, and a lot of stolen content, which completely overshadow the actually great stuff.
And most of the time I feel like its the corporate greed that it is unregulated, because they earn money, that's the only thing they care.
This is also why i like java mods and other stuff like resource packs and stuff because none of it is behind a pay lock and the people who made those are great people as they made it out of passion and not greed
There are some things behind a paywall in Java modding stuff. Though only one that comes to mind is the ray tracing SEUS pack for a patreon tier mainly due to being in heavy development still.
You don’t even want to start on how the bugs in the marketplace exist, I once brought a skin pack the money cane out my bank account fully purchased the pack and when I tried to wear the skins it kept bugging out
For 6 months after I brought a Star Wars pack I couldn’t use it and when I contacted Microsoft they essentially said “buy it again”
I have no brought anything from the marketplace since and never will
Thank you for making this
Thanks for bringing awareness to this
This Is why I haven’t returned to Minecraft since the 360 days until now. Playing Minecraft on console is just so different now that everytime I tried to get back into it it just didn’t feel the same. Now that I have a pc I decided to give Java a try and it was like I was 12 again, I’m still tryna learn everything I missed out since then but atm I’m happy playing Minecraft again.
point about steam is that they take less than the amount reported up until certain amount of sales
love your vids man keep it up
Thanks :)
@@TheMisterEpic
Of course you should buy The Dogsteve map and skin pack as obviously it's the only legit and also the best set of item on the marketplace
Me who plays on switch: "my goodness that's evil"
**Buys another skin and texture pack**
This all "stolen content" is actually kind of complicated, specially for skins. Lets say that I make a bot that is able to make and upload to some accounts every possible minecraft skin that can ever be made. From that moment I have some kind of "rights" over any skin that was made by my bot and anyone else can't sell this skins on the marketplace anymore? It seems kinda bizarre to me, am I right?
Very Epic...
There's always going to be false negatives and false positives for copyright so i have a question.
Would you rather have a copyright system like youtube or like minecraft marketplace? Because i lean towards the marketplace despite the flaws.
I understand your veiwpoint but the marketplace should be a tad better saying that it took a week for a minecraft developer to his own stolen content unlisted (you can still buy it if you have a link). Referring to the aether mod
Ah yes, you can't be committing any crimes in these maps but you can go play vanilla Minecraft and burn an entire village.
as someone who works with a marketplace some other scummy things i have seen some teams do is they make a python scrip ( or similar language ) to auto generate the skins based off of pre determined inputs
eg.
Give the script
8 heads
8 chests
8 legs
8 feet
and say i want 128 skins and the script will generate the skins from the inputted base ( this can be changed to do stuff like tone to deal with the race stuff )
which just doesnt feel right they are automating the production of skins which some artists spend 5 or 6 hrs on 1 skin and they go spend 6 or 8 hrs making parts of skins put them in a script and they now have 128 skins
( if a more in depth explanation is wanted i would be happy to answer any questions about said script cant say who uses it / who i work with but most other things i can )
Fun fact: everyone is first until they refresh the page
Imagine having to pay for skins
I know this is old but a slight correction you can use whatever skin you want on Bedrock as well because you can import skins on PC and mobile they just put it out of the way in terms of UI to get kids to buy skins
@@NightRaven5568 it’s broken on phone
I just re watched this again and I can't imagine getting featured on realms so you get nothing
Adding maps to Minecraft Java realms is extremely long and frustrating too. There is ~2 month of waiting and there is only 1 Minecraft content coordinator who’s works 1 day every ~20 days for new applications to Minecraft Realms in exemple
Atleast it isnt roblox…
Whoever’s reading this I pray that whatever your struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day!
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My god this Minecraft Live is gonna be interesting
over 60% cut is outrageous Microsoft gets to take more then HALF