MASSIVE SURPRISE 1974 Vietnam War Army Combat Survival Kit Review
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- This is a rare look into a Vietnam Vet's personal survival it , i hope you guys enjoy this one ...
MASSIVE SURPRISE 1974 Vietnam War Army Combat Survival Kit Review For Business Contact :
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If this was presented as a military survival kit I hope you did not pay too much.
Yeah... Not real.
A dead giveaway for the later additions to the pack, was the bar code. They didn't exist in 74.
First time UPC's were added to consumer products was July of 74. So it would be possible just incredibly unlikely.
Also in 1983, an extended ZIP+4 code was introduced. Yes saw that kind of zip on the back of the Coverlet dressing that was inside the Band Aid Sport container. 1:57 min
Back in the 70s when I was in scouting we hade a competition to see how many survival things we could cram in a 35mm film can, I won it! You would be surprised how many small things you can get in those small film canisters.
Hard to get a 35mm film can nowadays!
I would love to see a video of it 🤠
If I could find a film canister I may try and duplicate it as bast as I can remember the one of things that may be hard to find is the little round mirror I put in the lid as a signal mirror I took off my toy microscope.
@@derekmcmanus8615 Yeah, you'd have your work cut out using an SD card case.
Yeah I miss those things. Darn handy!
Somebody’s Vietnam era bag, with modern stuff added in. Looks like a junk bag.🤦♂️
I agree someone put a bunch of stuff in a bag and sold it as a Vietnam War Army Combat Survival Kit. The Johnson & Johnson first aid kit is right on the date but it would never be in a military kit. Also I had one of those pak-kit's I bought mine in the late 70's to early 80's and IMHO it was a nice kit.
Ya might have gotten robbed lol
Not might,
DID!
Report the seller,get your money back brother!
not military issue
Band-Aid brand bandages up until around 1985 had a red string used to open the bandage. Bar codes on products became more popular in the early 80's.
Right! I remember the red string.
forgot that they used to have that tear string!
I've never seen a military issue kit in which everything wasn't packaged as plain OD green or grey. These things all appear to be branded and brand packed I doubt that any of it is GI issue.
Maybe had super basic issued items and he added to it to make it more suited for his needs?
I don't think this is a 1974 Vietnam survival kit at 10 mins in. Just saying
AS a Canadian, I know that 1972 was the last full year of US involvement in Vietnam.
I carried the Pak-Kit II (plus a few non-issue items) and a Water-Pik filtration system in my flight bag the whole time I served (77-82). Both tubes were identical in size and will hold a LOT more than you might think. Uncle Sam provided pretty extensive training and some very interesting kits but I preferred to have my own close by 'just in case'.
I don’t think military would issue bright fluorescent orange match container that are made to be spotted easily and military yellow plastic, I don’t think so.
That band-aid pack looks suspiciously modern for a 70s survival kit...
That padding of sort is called mole skin for blisters.
Immediately the band-aids are from the 90's....
Coghlan's Plastic Match Box is still sold at canadian tire bought one last week
The warning sign was Orange match case, it looked brand new . The field dressing is the only definite military item I could be certain off. That said it’s definitely a interesting vintage kit to look at
You completely got robbed. So there's two types of "Military" Survival kits. The first kind, you've done videos of....the manufactured survival kits that pilots (fixed AND rotary wing alike) would carry. Either on/in their vests, or in the ejection seat itself. These are completely pre-packaged and sealed.
Then there's the survival kits for the guys on the ground. The typical Infantry Soldier (or those that directly support the Infantry like Medical and Comms) had NO "pre-packaged" survival kit. The survival kits they carried would be built BY them.
Look at what you carried in combat in three tiers or levels. Tier 1 would be what you were wearing and what was in the pockets of that uniform. Tier 2 would be the LBE/LBV and what was carried in that. Tier 3 would be a Rucksack of some sort and what was carried in that.
A "survival kit" that is so large that it needs to be carried in your Rucksack DEFEATS the purpose of carrying a survival kit at all. Generally speaking, a survival kit would either be carried as a Tier 1 (in your uniform pockets) item, or MAYBE as a Tier 2 (on your LBE). The BEST case scenario would be Layering your Survival items as multiple kits; with the base layer being in your pockets, the next layer being on your LBE.
The concept was What did you have on you if you dropped your Ruck at a Patrol base (Tier 1 & Tier 2), and if you were E&Eing (Escape/Evade), having run out of ammunition and dropping your LBE, what would you have on you in your Uniform (Tier 1). You might carry a pocket knife in your uniform pocket, a 4-6" fixed blade knife on your LBE and a Machete on your Rucksack. All of them are cutting tools, and compliment each other; BUT, you were NEVER without a knife, even if you dropped everything.
The survival kits built BY the guys on the ground generally covered the basics....a spare compass, a spare knife, some cordage, maybe some water purification tables, etc. They were NOT large clunky things that would bang around. Guys like the MACV-SOG teams, would Have their survival kits SEWN into their Belts/Uniforms/Boots; so that it was ALWAYS with them. They might have a VS-17 marking panel in their Ruck, to signal to Aircraft above, but they might also have a piece of VS-17 panel sewn into the inside of their boonie cap, to also use as a signaling device.
The other thing to remember is this.....The Grunts on the ground were used to being on the ground and living there......Pilots/Aircrews were NOT. The #1 thing to have in a "Survival Situation" is Knowledge...and the guys on the ground gathered that knowledge through experience.
Hershey was the number one seller maker of food bars for the US military well past WW2. Also our snake bit kits were all dated 1968, issued in 1970. They came in a metal tin, with a antiseptic capsule, lancet, arm/leg ban for blood control, and a gause pad. Still have mine today.
Someone got played .
Even the bag is from the 80s I was a AeroScout and I bought 2 of those bags that held my stuff for taking oil samples for the turbine and gearboxes. None of this was Vietnam Era except the Snake bite kit.
Even those are commercially available today .
$11 for the compass in the 1970's? That was a serious outlay then.
The kit could have been purchased around the end of the Vietnam period, 1974. But, a lot of things were added. Especially the medical supplies. The field dressing, could be Vietnam or later. I think I have a few of those. Looks almost like the survival kit, I have?
The survival matches look new but overall a good review
No, they are not. They are the old type green tip Choglans waterproof matches.
Can't speak as to the container. He probably moved them to it after the original wooden matchbox they came in died of old age.
Looks like a mix of military and camping supplies. It's not all GI.
The only Veitnam items is the Sealed bandage and the tropical bars everything else is Still commercially available even today except maybe the Japanese made compass . Oh and the bag might be Veitnam era.
The first step to first aid is to open the pamphlet so you can read it! LOL
This is a homemade kit not one of the issued ones
Some contents of your kit are other then 1974 vintage.
Yes this is something someone put together from some items they picked and threw in that bag.
the snake bite kit string is a turnokate use the rubber case small tube for small snake, and large to suck out venom they thought that worked back then. think that is just a kit someone put together for hunting.
It's a bogus kit. There fabric BandAid came out in the 90's, the only knife that might have been placed in it would be K-Bar or Camillus pocket folder and I could go on and on.
Chickadee closed in 2012 according to FB after 70 years
people of the 70's and 80's were far to worried about snake bites and quicksand. As a child of that era, I blame Gilligan's island
Tobe fair snake bites used tobe a much bigger issue now with the wife spread anti venom across the country they rarely lead to death or loss of limbs like they used too.
The knife is definitely not from 1974! Knives made in Pakistan were not issued by the US Army! They would have been of the best quality! Knives from Pakistan were not seen here until the 80's, and were no better quality than they are now! Love your reviews!
If you can send it back I would nothing in it is Military Issue the packaging of Military survival kits ate completely different. US ARMY 76-85
Sorry pal, not a military survival kit. This was a crude assembly of roughly period correct retail items. Bandaid did not package like that until late 80's.
can stop laughing.
The bottom part of the orange match holder that little black thing is magnesium or a flint strike
Looks kind of like a rectal thermometer.
Thank you for great videos
Whats the best survivalkit for a normal Person in 2021
I have that same knife some where in my boxes.
you would use the spine of your knife if it had a 90 degree angle on it to strike the ferro rod that's on the bottom of the orange match case
That looks awesome matey
That padding that was in the first aid kit is called moleskin it's used to put over blisters on your feet
I was a kid in Ky. back in the 70s & 80s and not a summer went by that we didn't see a copperhead or a rattlesnake. Whenever we would be anywhere near some woods or fields we had one of those snake bite kits on a string around our necks.
You may carried it, but you'd never have used it. Lol 😆
Well as soon as you emptied it I was like it's not a military correct kit looks like a late 80s kit a Vietnam vet put together for his out door adventures but had to add alot of stuff I hope you didn't pay too much for that also the dextrose cubes had Germany on them not west Germany so that points to the 90 more definitely than anything the Germans are good at marking there stuff
Unless stores were using barcodes as early as the 70's (which I doubt) that was added on later!
Yep definitely very inneresting indeed 👍
Diffently alot of add ons
That looks like some ones kit they stuck together in an old military bag of some type. Correction at 11 minute mark you come to the same conclusion :)
I don't think there were a lot of things with bar codes printed on them during Vietnam.
The Chick A Dee restaurant still exists here in Maine!
Looks like you bought a "representative sample" of an individual soldier's field necessities kit. Hope you didn't pay more than twenty bucks.
" 1973 period correct" Not.
Pak kit was from the 1980s and civilian. I've seen it for sale in very old magazines. Jhonson & Jhonson would use their own branded products. The thermometer is for water and possibly air. Match case is modern and from Walmart. What you have there is called a dirty bag or what the frontiersmen called a possibles bag. That's not a suture. Did you see a needle? That's a lymph tourniquet.
Thats a garage sale $2 bag.
looks like someone was scaming people into buying a Vietnam kit but filled it with junk......hope you didn't pay too much for it.
I got Vietnam videos, Vietcong, NVA, US loadouts
Looks like a bunch of stuff in a waterproof ruck bag. If you want more I can make you 3 or 4
GOOD ONE
You made 21 minutes out of this pile of garbage? We left Viet Nam in 73.
Alright fresh new video!
Seems our lokal "Rare Doctor" has moved lol... and what about the tropical bars?? Philip was not greedy lol? Interesting :)
If it was made in 1974, the US role in Vietnam other than some air support and CIA activity, was over. Some things are newer, as you said. I remember that compass packaging so it is early 80s, and the design- it was almost my first compass. I do not remember the Pak-Kit, but that is an old "pink lady" candle well faded and not melted, so stored out of sun, someplace cool, and I'd believe 40-45 years old no problem. Two thoughts. Some items might have been carried in Vietnam, especially the bag, but the majority no. Second thought is if the seller claimed it was, they're some vet's kid selling their deceased father's stuff and making a guess for eBay puffery. Over all, a very nice collection of mostly 70s and 80s gear even if it is a little slapdash. The side effect of a kit packed and added to but not refined.
Ebay sells anything
Not even close to a Vietnam survival kit. I hope this wasn't expensive and it was sold as a civilian survival kit.
Probably could have got the date off of the Hershey bars
It's D.D Bean and Sons. 12:46
bandaid look modern
first thought: please tell me some fellow at the gun show “threw this in” after you bought a few boxes of ammo or optics.
Enjoy your videos but this time capsule throw-together had me cringing
I got a feeling this wasn't a real military issue kit. Hope you didn't pay a lot
did you like, order this off of the dark web?
Dude! You got took.
the band aid pack is new.
Carried the dressing as an MP.1974
That is not a Vietnam Survival kit. It has a military item or two but that's it. You have a bag of just old civilian stuff. The real prize,if complete, is the pak it survival kit.
Anything with a barcode on is not 1974!!
those matches are from my state
Nathan, what kind of kettle do you use for your hot water?
Imagine the girlfriends, wives, aunts and retired grandmothers that helped to pack some of the components that went into this survival kit. I'm guessing this was produced in 72' or 73' ... but who knows. These women would have been in their 30s, 40's, 50's and 60's easily back in the early to mid 70's with many of the women that worked at this factory having long ago left this earth for the great unknown. This is 50 years ago. That means the youngest women that worked at this business are now in their 80's or, at the very least, mid 70's ... the last time fingers touched this survival kit, it's more than likely these women know someone who was killed in Vietnam or worse, MIA. Maybe some of them were against this conflict and came to work indifferent riddled with personal conflict in the daily task at hand. Maybe even a few had Husbands, Brothers, Children over in Vietnam and as they sat there at their work stations, in a quiet, careful and loving taught, hoped that maybe this very survival kit might help the ones they loved to stay alive. Richard Nixon was President, gas cost .40 cents a gallon, a new home was $33,000, or, if you were in the market for a new car, one would cost you around $3,200 dollars. These women earned around $3 an hour to pack these survival kits. Some of the movies they would have seen were The Exorcist, American Graffiti or The Sting staring Paul Newman, Robert Redford and Robert Shaw. Maybe they even went and saw James Bond in Live and Let Die. Some of their table talk might have included that horrible scene from Deliverance or the horses head in The Godfather. The Godfather went on to win Best Picture in 1973 of whom, Carol Burnett, Michael Caine, Charlton Heston, and Rock Hudson were hosts of the award ceremony. Perhaps they were allowed a radio to listen to while working - songs that were popular then were, Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Tree, Bad Bad Leroy Brown or Killing Me Softly by Roberta Flack. These vintage MRE's and associated pieces of survival equipment are tangible pieces of history that are much more than the sum of its parts. If you pay close attention and your sense of wonderment and adventure still cloud your daily thoughts, then maybe, just maybe there are many stories here for you to discover. All you need do is listen. Nathan may not realize this but he also a curator in addition to a reviewer, if you will. When he cracks open these rare bits of history and, I would be willing to guess, there might only be a few more of these exact survival kits in existence, it's a special moment. And sure, it's not an unearthed gold coin or a lost masterpiece, but, still very entertaining and important in it's own right. I do wish Nathan would slow down just a little bit and give his audience 1 or 2 additional seconds to view these vintage treasures, pieces and parts. Length and time of these videos are a very real consideration, but still, I think there might be time to add a bit more detail to his video and it's important narrative. Sorry for the wall of text, my imagination took over, and no, I do not regret this affliction.
That was amazing dude. Your description was flawless. Thank you for taking the time to write it. I really enjoyed reading your comment 👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼👍🏼
That was a bag of junk, with a couple era items
@@travisdavis3974 So a bag of junk to you? Okay. Thanks for sharing your feelings and perspective I guess. I'm guessing since all of these survival kits basically have pretty much the same items, then a lot of Nathan's as well as other reviews of these types are items are also bags of junk to you as well I take it. For someone that doesn't seem to really care much about these bags of junk, I am surprised you even watched the review at all let alone took the time to tell all of us how you really feel. Well, I mean, I guess if these are all just bags of junk to you then we shouldn't expect to see you around that much and that's fine by me. What a sour comment that serves no one. Nathan, maybe put this @@travisdavis3974 guy on your radar and if he continues to grace us with any more sour comments, that serve nothing, then maybe we can remove him from this community. We would be doing us both a favor.
The chocolate bars are worth a lot of money on eBay
Where was the knife made and the maker?
You got ripped off
Definitely a bunch of random later contents.
That's a relatively modern plastic match case just like you can get for $1 today.
It is a ferro rod on the bottom.
The knife is junk from the 90's, the thermometer is probably from the 90's because we weren't really importing much from Mexico in the 70's, and barcodes didn't exist yet.
Handy tapper might be 70s
😅 this is more like a kit a Vet may have thrown together.
My dad had a päk kit in his plane.
Wonder what he charged for it?
By then USA and Washington gave up on Vietnam. But they still had to be prepared for any conflict in the future and USA forgot loss and moved on with technology
Didn't have barcodes back then .lol bandaids are a later inclusion.
If you really looked at this and thought oh wow from the Vietnam era, lol you may want to do a little more studying. 😅
What a scam. Put 3 things that is accurate inside an accurate bag .. and then fill it with bs and call it grannys plum tea.
Looks like someone threw a handful of stuff in a bag, not a complete or authentic kit of anything.
That blue pen looking thing you thought it was a themometer , its a tire gauge to test psi in your tire my friend
Perhaps it’s an American Vietnam escape kit…..they ran away from Vietnam about this time
The coverlet is not old at all
Massive surprise ?
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