Quit over building your drift cars! Chelsea Denofa interview.
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2019
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Opening clip from @tannerbaer - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I could listen to Chelsea talk about drifting all day such a laid back cool dude
Also he knows what’s he talking about really smart dude...
TJ Hunt needs to see this
@@nightreapers3425 only 1 of his builds are a track build but ok.
@@daduncker20D yeah, that's also the only point that you could be right about 😂😂😂
He's not a drifter, and definitely not grassroots
@@DolphinDivingChamp That's the point, he WAY overbuilt his 350z and he started drifting in that. WTF
@@nightreapers3425 No I mean he should see this to LEARN from what Chelsea and what it means to be a drifter
"I hate my car when I have to work on it."
@@TheZulajin here in quebec because of the snow they salt the road like crazy so our cars are rusted like crazy!!! Everytime i work on my beater i snap a bolt/ a bolt is stuck thats a pain in the ass evertime
@@TheZulajin well 4x4 is great for not getting stuck and helping people who are stuck lol but with a rwd its endless drifting haha
Me right now 😆
the most important upgrade to a drift car is a *driver upgrade*
An upgrade made necessary by the shit show that was FD pro 2 this past weekend. If those Pro 2 guys were focusing more on their, as you say, driver upgrades, they would have had better control rather than showing up with a 900 or 1000 hp monster they can't handle outside of perfect conditions.
To be clear, I'm not shitting on them, I admire them hell out of them being able to even be there, I just wish that the pro 2 series itself was less focused on being a clone of Pro, and more focused on getting the best drivers into the Pro series where they need to build the monster drift machine. As it is, lots of these Pro 2 guys are building their own machines, yes they get sponsorships, but not often is it complete, or enough to let them go full time, which limits their time on track, preventing the level of dedication to practice that a pro driver may have.
@@teamredshirt Pro2 should be a Street Legal class
@@ilham7345 ooh that would be pretty interesting.
@@ilham7345 Pro Am should be street legal and Pro 2 should be no engine swaps, factory fuel tank and no rear mount radiators.
@@bigdfitness5020 other than fuel tank, I agree. fuel cell plays huge part on safety in contact motorsport like this. we don't want 1976 German GP incident in drift competition yes?
Yeah people needs to understand 1,000 laps is better then 500hp car for the most part
depends on how expensive the trackday is.
@@comethiburs2326 yeah but a cheap car plus the thousand laps is still cheaper that an overbuilt car plus the same thousand laps.
@@kirkarvint.2017 where i live, it's ~700 bucks a weekend of racing, so with all costs included (fuel, tyres, transport and on) it's close to 1200.
So yeah, should i have the money to burn, i'm not going to track a bone stock car. everything is going to be built so it's easy to fix, quick to take apart and tune.
with a proper race car shell and suspension setup, i have room for upgrading the engine; that can stay stock for training.
besides, we also have noise regulations. so cheap mods like pod filters and straight pipes are useless.
High horse power figures shine in drag racing, balance is key in circuit racing. I'll take a cornering monster like the mid engine nsx over any overbuilt high maintenance vehicle everytime for circuit racing, another good one is the Audi quattro all wheel drive all the time stock suspension is really good too!
@@brandenrussell2647 you dont want to track a quattro, though. maintenance is high $$$ and these cars are not easy to work on for the most. audis are infamous for that "remove the entire front clip to replace the water pump and other accessories" deal.
granted it unbolts quick, but still. you know why shops take 4+K for a new chain and water pump.
best budget track car is a miata, second would be a 3 series bimmer. third would be a sn95/98 stang. those cars are easy to get parts for, easy to work on, and powerful enough for training.
E36 - best seat time car
1) already has enough power 323-m3
2) angle mods spacer and e46 arms
3) coilovers
4) can be bought for $1500 easily
5) front end comes completely apart and m52s go for $400 if you blow a motor.
6) oem wheels are 17s and tires are cheap and easy to find
E30 is better
Bimmers are wack. For that 1500 I'm gonna buy a mustang with a 5 speed only because the Camaro has no angle
@@JesusRivera-oe1jw I prefer jdm cars and cars that can turn corners since we have those in the uk
Tyy Dawson e30s aren’t cheap out here 😅. E36 m3 are skyrocketing. Haha getting around $7k for a US spec m3 in decent condition!!!
@@Revo900 oof, I can buy a 330i for £2000 - 2500 with little to no rust
Reminds me of that old school D1 Drift Champion that was running a cheap AE86 with 160hp-180hp against all the high powered Silvias, RX-7s, Skylines, Etc.) and winning.
keichi tsuchiya my friend.
@@costabraaapa7994 I think he's referring to Katsuhiro Ueo, Tsuchiya-San never competed in D1. He was a founder and a judge. Check out some Ueo battles, he's got nerves of steel
keep in mind that was crank. i have an old d1 motor{us emissions airbox bs for reggo in cali} and its 160 crank. with the itbs they ran they said it was 180-190 crank.
and yes i had a d1 engine in that ratshit blue beercan XD its going in my clean low mile shell. beercan is getting the 2azfe like taka aono 86
The saying always goes... "It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than to drive a fast car slow."
I say the same about engines. More fun to push the smaller engine to the max than it is the have a bigger engine you run slower. Why have a 700hp v8 when you dont even use half of that most of the time. When a 300hp 4cyl will give you just as much joy or even more. I dont think i made any sense. Im high.
@@hrtbrk1 🤣
Agreed
@@hrtbrk1 Its way more fun getting the most power out of a small engine.
assetto corsa helped me so much learning how to drift and watching guys like Chelsea
All the best drifters play Assetto Corsa 😂 I learned on it and I don't drive in real life but not bragging but my seat time in-game where I don't have any G force on Console as well (which has hard cars to drift) if I learned to drift in real life. I'd progress to near an amateur comp level double/triple as fast...I think, well I hope. If I wasn't scared of the feeling of speed which I'll admit looks fucking scary when you're drifting close to ways and on fast narrow tracks 😂
@@FlukeyKent. you dont need a crazy gaming pc to play that on pc so you can get the mods. get a cheap optiplex and throw some ram and a cheap 1070 gpu. i run it on a 970 pos laptop
Totally changes my vision for my car
300hp is more than enough for a fun street legal drift car.
Daniel This.
It’s funny how all the best drivers agree about 300hp is all u need
That's how much power my 04 mustang v6 has because it's a simple daily driver/drift car
hey that's my dream number
Went to an event with a ka welded diff s14 drove at least 40+ laps all on one set of tires.
D S na?
frik ? Yup
D S loves it
Aint that's the truth. Simple seat time cars are the best.
no smoke no angle sounds fun lol
It would've been cool to have Aaron explain how he compares his Japan trip cars to the cars they build down here, in japan all they had was a drop and minor upgrades, full dash full interior, all fun!
It comes down to they don't have trailers, trucks, garages, etc so their cars simply can't be as modified as they would want them to be, which forces them to have really simple rad cars most of the time. Also they had more turbo cars available. Great video idea, I might try that today!
I think the full interior is so important, bring back comfortable street cars! The Midwest street style in the US, and Aaron’s TXSL series are probably the closet we will get to Japan’s street cars. Although in the Midwest/Chicago area, those guys drive stupid low cars.
As someone who has done the School of Drift half day, it's an awesome experience and well worth it. I learned alot from it and it was alot of fun. Just show up buckle in and drive for 3+ hours
can we bring our own cars for pointers on how we are screwing up? im good enough to link grange every time in my 86 but i could be so much better.
“Idk why I would put a V8 in anything” exactly... “Going out with a crazy car, and sucking all day” nailed it.
Stop it why would you not want power and reliability? High horsepower four cylinder and 6 cylinder are notorious for being unreliable that's why they build so many spare motors and are limited in how many laps they can do
Chelsea is the ABSOLUTE BOY
I can feel the pennies accumulating in my pocket
(SIDE NOTE to any Nakamura fanboys like myself: Nakamura thrashed on 600hp doors in a 280hp S13 when he was kicked out of D1. A downgrade from the 500ps 2.2 stroked comp car he was competing in. But JDM AF isn’t cool when you can’t afford to run your car. Also, he’s an icon because he drove that thing on 265 semi-slicks and didn’t break SR gearboxes every weekend)
Nakamura and Chelsea are both some of my favourite drifters for both their style and attitude. They both know power isn’t everything and know a simple setup will always be plenty.
-also when I heard he was running 265s on what was a stock SR is insane.
BeBobFerrari99 why was nakamura kicked from D1
301 from what I read caught street drifting
@@liamcrawford1902 He lost his license because he got caught street drifting. D1 requires the drivers to have a driver's license. That was a while back though, he just recently competed in the D1 exhibition match in Tokyo.
So wait, what exactly abut his driving lets him be able to not pop a tyranny on 256s anyway?
You know what. I would love Chelsea to do a video about the most vital places to reinforce a e36, maybe vital suspension,steering mods for the buck , or what are the most reliable bmw engines for the buck(s52,s54 don't count :D cause the car itself cost as much or near as much as the engine), what engine mods are vital to them to be able to thrash them at drift events whenever you want, is the hydro dual caliper setup worth it, is a radiator overflow tank worth it, do any other things come to your mind. TL:DR - I would like Chelsea to do a Q/A on all about e36'es and the best/cheapest way you can get away with it with not buying better parts for it in the long run so you could have fun with the car as much as possible, you know "Keep drifting fun."
That engine is worth way more than the car. You can pick a TI up for less than $1000. Your best bang for your buck is to pick up a early model e36 with the m50 non vanos motors. Super reliable motor with descent power, it’s an iron block too so if you plan on turbo charging it can hold 400+hp to the wheels with stock internals
@@budgetdrift6403 thank you so much for the valuable information, kudos and banzais for you my friend
That would be soo nice! I am working on a '93 325i at the moment to get it ready for technical inspection (TÜV in germany). I want to learn drifting with that thing but I also don't have that much money to spend^^
@@budgetdrift6403 you are 100% correct.. I have an 84. e30 with stock M50 from 92. and power to weight ratio is great for drifting. 190hp in a 1 ton car is cheap, and it's more than enough power to go sideways
If you watch his CZcams channel. He goes through a lot of dos and dont for a long lasting e36 drift build.
Its mainly maintenance everything before drift mods.
After maintenance is done or up to par., drift mods should be welded diff>coilovers>bucket seat> angle mods>more power.
Chelsea is still rocking the stock e brake on his e36. Is a hydro worth it? Maybe.
Hands down favorite drifter to watch
totally agree with this man! iam running on a equivalent $24 tyre drift car. its a s14 with fully stock engine compartment (stock power) just a cage, hydro hb, coilovers and some essential arms and what not and the best part, 15" wheel setup. so i run a 195 50 15 tyre which cost around $24. and yea i can just keep going and going and thats what it's all about. no hassle no worries just seat time and fun.
Preach Chelsea! I started with a stock engine 240! Later just got coils, a kaaz and a seat and had soo much fun!
Excellent interview! Chelsea has a great attitude.
The way this has been filmed with the color grading and type of lens really makes this a pleasure to watch.
I'm glad that Chelsea touched on how driving for the RTR team is a job. I don't think a lot of drivers realize that if you get picked up by a team or even if you just get sponsors it becomes your job to promote the team/product. I've seen drivers lose sponsors and even full rides just because of their behavior off track. Unfortunately in this day and age you are never 'off the clock' when you represent a team/sponsor. You need to act professionally if you want to keep and even attract sponsors.
A lot of people out there running no fuel gauge but got an aftermarket ECU 😂😂
I have always been the same, if it ain't broke don't fix it! knowing your car inside and out is also massively under-rated by a lot of people, being able to repair/fix things easily and quickly at the track can make all the difference! Keep making these video's I think it's a good inspiration for newbies and experienced drivers.
Taka Aono has been running a drift school program for quite some time now. Alex Hohnadell was a student of his if i remember correctly.
De no fuks givin is my favorite driver cuz you can always have a holy shit moment when watchin him drive. Jared D. freaks out on the mic for Denofa more than everyone else. 88 is the man.
I agree!
Straight line fast and touge fast are super different for the average person. Take note, a car that you leave in the dust in a straight line may shock you when it comes to the twists.
See: Mustang
Miatas
That reverse entry at the beginning thoe had my jaw dropped that shot got me pumped for this season
So your telling me my ls3 swapped m3 doesnt need twin turbos?
Need vs want friend. Sometimes you need what you want
@@Jamesfurtado128 it was a joke towards retards who spend 10k to lsx swap their already good cars
@@tokeypokey some people enjoy ls swap for street.
I love these vids. Only thing missing for me was a bit of chelsea's knowledge on e36/e30 suspension settings. What spring rate works best for him etc...
Awesome video! I have a 330i with is my drifter. Got it super cheap and love it. It deserves a little turbo though.
Super fun and honest info!!! Great videos
Great video like always!
Working on your car and learning how to fix things is a gift in itself. Experience is priceless. You gotta put in the work tho.
So much info! Thanx again
this is a topic that needed to be talked about
😍 great interview
5mins in and I already love this video!
Absolutely agree, with the exception of the fact that some of these people building FD cars for grassroots are looking to progress to FD as quickly as possible. I've no intention of getting to FD, so I'm fine with my 328. On the other hand, a guy at the track started drifting last season, and this season he got second in the Spec-D Prospec Shootout this season. Everyone's got different needs and goals. But it's great to see people showing the benefits of not having crazy horsepower cars at the track too! Cheers guys👊
Got to see this guy the other day at fd and hes such a cool guy to be around
Enjoyed this and your other videos.
I'm looking to buy my first drift car and like what I've read on the BMW E36. Finding a 325/328 in Australia is proving difficult! Other 6 cylinder models like the 320/323 are far more readily available. For an entry level car will the 320/323 do the job or should I hold out for the 325/328?
Thanks for the advice
I miss you guys drifting together in Ebisu like years back :D
We used to share the same trailer and travel the country back in the 2008-2009 time period.
He's building an MR2 :O
Instant-like from me
I drift a pretty much stock car and when I have money to spend, if its spend it on an event OR spend it on parts. I choose go drive every single time. I don't have a ton of experience or anything but its pretty obvious to me that seat time improves my driving wayyy more than new parts.
been following you on multiple accounts still looking forward to one day meeting you in japan @matsuri hopefully one day i can get the money to go!
These are the videos I love lmao
Thanks for this.
Thanks for this information. When I get my first car my goal is to turn it into a daily drifter. So it’s going to be cheap. Thanks for all this information
so drive by wire is complicated but you swapped drive by wire engine?
Been watching Chelsea’s videos for a couple years now and I’m happy that I‘ve basically followed the formula correctly up until this point:
- Stock E36 M3
- BC Coilovers
- 225/45 tire
- Cable handbrake
How well does the car work and what is your local track?
As a beginner, I couldn’t be happier with the car. I drive with Club Loose in San Antonio in our tiny little parking lot layouts. I’ll definitely be making it out to Lonestar Bash and Winter Matsuri at the end of the year once I have more experience!
this is my favorite video ever
Lmao when I saw h wearing a welding cap just to wear one I instantly subbed
What do you need to slave the S54 in the I 36? Beside the water green, what trans, what mounts, any fab work? Is it better to start With in M shell or regular E36?
Love his approach to have calculated efficient way of having fun. From car cost e36 dirt cheap to the tire size based on price. Would he go as far as VR and Simulators.. cost per fun factor
This was covered a long time ago in the Drift Bible Best Motoring video. Find a solid FR platform and get seat time.
I love this channel
Chelsea is such a legend!
This is what I really want to get into I want a daily drifter/driver but with a 4 seats always been looking at the g35 or e36/e46 I heard they go through problems tho like vanos the g35 oil issues etc
Go with a g 35 bro get a plenum spacer and just when you take it to the track check the oil after every few runs.
Just got my first bmw e36 m3 gonna be hella fun
I have one of these!! Its my daily so fun
Got my 1 lady owner E36 328i manual last week, i'll be keeping it 100% stock like the gem that it is
I wonder if this car has poly bushes all around or just stock? Bushings in rear sub frame on my e36 coupe are warned out and im wondering if I should go polyurethane or stock?
BMW' compacts have e30 m3 like rear suspension and e36 m3 like front suspention and its light as a feather =D big motor compacts are crazy fun :D
subtract all the "m3" from your comment and you are basically right :D
Thank you for this video thruth has been told
Last year Chelsea came by my house and picked up a car my son stored for him. He was towing his e36 back from California and pulled it off the trailer loaded up the Toyota and his GF drove his car back to Portland from Medford Oregon. The car is just that reliable that he beats it to death and can still be driven hundreds of miles on the highway.
Where can we find the set up video for this compact?
I need that Mapei hat because I have the matching cycling jersey.
Chelsea seems to be a cool guy. Nice Video. Tks.
I attended a Drift school with DeNofa teaching and took 3rd in our series last year, he knows so much about the e36 and helped me tremendously with setting mine up.
That intro clip HAS to be Pat's! Some crazy events there!
BrownyCakes1 def is pats acres
Chelsea is Ace! I would Love To see him one day In my e36 In Finland.
Can you please tell me what the rear spring rate is
Send what I have that's always been my motto. Mine is a stock G35 Sedan 5AT with an open diff. I just built up the suspension as I got better. Seat time is all that matter to me.
Get a diff! It makes such a huge difference that it should really be the first or second mod to a drift car - either before or after a seat.
@@NGNMYokohama I'm getting a 1.5 clutch type from cusco. Honestly it is day and night difference from when I drove friends cars. I've been sending it open diff for 5 years haha. All of my upgrades prior were suspension pieces.
I heard NO ONE on the entrance in the begging till he caught it perfectly
amazing!
That first video of pats acers drift is dope asf and it's only 20 mins away from me lol
I need to drift there with my buddy Chelsea soon! Last time I tried it was flooded.
i wish i was in america for summer to learn to drift but i need to work in finland and there are no tracks here.
i have a black e30 that is rusty and wont run some electrical problem but dont know how to fix and would like to swap the engine but no moneys
I too, like the idea of having a good, fun car, that happens to drift as well.
Thx marky mark when’s the next ep coming out.
Aaron , keeping it REAL with the Mapei cycling cap!
I want to see more MR2. What happened to the build???
Cheap drift car challenge accepted! Just did a 3 day event again way under 1000 dollar. Even finished 4th against only 500hp+ cars.
I drive a e36 320i with a ebay turbo 320hp. Only buy new tires for competition, (225-45-17) training sessions on free junkyard tires.
Sleep at the track in the van, so no hotel costs.
A s54 engine is not considered cheap in my eyes even in europe haha.
This is EXACTLY why my Exocet is an NA 1.6 Miata underneath. It has lived on track and bouncing off the rev limiter for a decade plus now and keys live in it at Autocross so anyone can take it out.
Hey I have an 36 m3 that can’t be registered I wonder if you want to buy it for the school
Good advice!
agree, but s54 is not really good example, for price of s54 (+ reseal, rod bearings etc) in europe you can build m50 stroker turbo...
This came along at the perfect time! I dig Chelsea D and the bottom line is seat time. Spend less for it...
What spring rate coils should we run
This was real, appreciate every word
Awesome content like always! You got me wondering if my vq 240sx is over built now or if it's right in the middle🤔 tubed front roll cage angle kit etc.. you can see it on my channel.
A VQ 240sx is not over built, that would be a super reliable cheap car to drive long term. It gets my stamp of approval, even if my ears hate you lol.
It all depends on how its done. A vq swap done to make as much power as possible and having to check every possible failure point after 3 laps, then its definitely over built. If you like chelsea and have a cool down be a lap around the track following instead of drifting then its cool even if the VQ is murder on the ears. It also depends on experience. My first year learning to drift, having a turbo kit on my miata was too overbuilt compared to the stock s13 hatch (we have sr20s stock in NZ) i use now and just go through 40 laps an event
Great interview, also if you guys want to hear more from Chelsea listen to The Tandem Podcast by Mike Farr! He also has great interviews with Nate from Villians, Micah Diaz, Matt Panic, etc.
Where do I find this podcast?
AJ Rubio Spotify or iTunes
Ryan Olson thanks!
Ryan Olson can’t seem to find Chelsea on Spotify
Or check out his CZcams channel, oh wait he hasn't posted in 2 months!
Me looking at a 1200$ diff lol I needed this
@Even Shanks need to watch this video. thinks having more power and a hand brake is going to make him a better drifter...lol
Well a working hand brake could help lol.
My 83 f2t corolla 150hp does fine with no handbrake. Its me that doesn't do fine
That's why he has the 350
I think it’s up to u what u want
Does loan star drift still hold events? When is the entry level
I was inspired by his Ti and now drift a C230 hatch, its literally the ugliest hatch like ever made and I love it
Shouts to probably the most humble guy in FD; thanks for sharing your wisdom on 36s with us mortals XD
One question though - can you kind of legaly drive this car from your house to a track where you live? Not so sure about europe.
This is probably as close as some of us are going to get at Pro2 and FD, in our real lives.
Also this part of Europe is not exatly car-mods-friendly, which is just sad.
I just recently had almost like an arguement at our DMV (of some sort), just because my rear window tints were supposeably unregistered with them - but I bought the car like this (i actualy had some papers for it but didnt know about atm). Guy basically said to either rip it off or get my paperworks done in like 10days. He also complained about the stock neg camber the car has from the factory (completely unmodified volvo v50) LOL Cant imagine his heart rate and blood pressure when he sees someone show up in something similar to MicahDiaz's e46 (that white one from the Hert video..). Hed probably just call the police on it for just being parked there. #shame
No one cares
I operated my s13 with jz for 100 a drift day. Free tires and drive half hour to event. All money was fuel and food. 1 event went to autozone for a belt that was it. Prob 30 events
Wish we had that money per fun factor, the e36 turbo build is exactly as Chelsea says: "why am I doing this, every time I drive"