Jocko Podcast 312: Black Hawk Down. Night Stalkers Never Quit. With Mike Durant
Vložit
- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- Underground Premium Content: www.jockounderground.com/subs...
Join the conversation on Twitter/Instagram: @jockowillink @mikedurantal @echocharles
0:00:00 - Opening
0:05:15 - Mike Durant
3:05:47 - How to stay on THE PATH
JOCKO UNDERGROUND Exclusive Episodes: www.jockounderground.com/subs...
Jocko Store Apparel: www.jockostore.com
Jocko Fuel: jockofuel.com
Origin Jeans and Clothes: originmaine.com/durable-goods/
Echelon Front: www.echelonfront.com
3:28:49 - Closing gratitude.
Gordon and Shugart are two of the most Spartan dudes in US Army history. Willingly fought it out to their last for their brothers
"Generally speaking, the Way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death.” - Miyamoto Musashi
Those guys are incredible.When they asked to be given permission to set up the perimeter around Durant and the downed Black Hawk,they knew what they were asking for and they knew what that meant.
It was an extraordinary story! The book and the movie were great,too!
The fact they asked over and over to go, knowing what it meant. Absolute heros. I hope their families are proud of the men they raised and know that many people will never forget them.
I am a Canadian...and the respect I have for Gary Gordon and Randy Shugart is endless. My 3 teen-age sons know every aspect of their deeds. Its one thing when you are in the shit and have to react to survive...and there are MANY stories of servicemen and women doing extraordinary things in those situations and I respect all of them. But those 2 men could SEE the crowds massing....could have chosen to stay in the bird and offer support that way....but they insisted on insertion. Makes me misty. (And Jocko....no disrespect I know you don't write the headlines but it is ...."Night Stalkers DON'T Quit!"...."NSDQ!".....not "never".....and it IS important....that's their Motto)
These guys are true heroes. They will go down into the annals of history of great Americans just like Donald Trump.
Watching this right now. My uncle - Timothy "Griz" Lynn Martin paid the ultimate sacrifice on that day.
Griz.. a man to be proud of!
Your family paid the ultimate price. He will not be forgotten.
We will not forget
My condolences brother, but you had the privilege of knowing a true warrior who died fighting and doing what he wanted, feel proud.
Damn 🤝
Sounds like a badass dude. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
1:32:45 Jocko chokes down a tear, the world stops spinning for a moment. Thank you men. God bless Master Sgt. Gary Gordon and Sgt. 1st Class Randy Shughart.
I caught that. I felt that. I also had to do the same.
Those guys are the epitome of selflessness, they feared no living man...
Yeah man, that hurt a little bit.
My great uncle was in Somolia 92-93, he told me he reenlisted after seeing the pictures of their bodies, but never got to go back. I felt a great deal of anger too after seeing the footage, people laughing, mutilating, and standing over a dead American, its hard not to. To this day he curses Somalia to hell, he told me “I never saw one pair of eyes from there that didn’t look like they wanted to kill me”. A whole fucked up situation all around, and Somalia is still in civil war all these years later. No good endings here in the big picture.
@@devin6201 You can't bring peace to a place that only knows war and death. America was stupid think it could change that mindset, and sadly these men paid the price for it.
Im a refugee from Southeast asia.when I was born I was sick and my mom always told me if it wasn't for the U.S military I probably die so when I got about 13 I felt I owe the nation to served so I joined after I graduated high school.
It sounds like you are a true American. May God bless you and your family brother
Thank you
Love your comment. Wish i could follow. Stuck in freakn europe.
Maybe someday.
You're more American than many born here. Thank you for serving, I'm glad you made it. 🙂
Hooyah AZrael!
Master Sgt Gary Gordon.
Sgt First Class Randy Sughart.
Unbelievable, unparalleled bravery.
When you hear the story from the guy who had a front row seat to it. Wow.
Killing women and children is brave to you?
“MIKE DURANT! YOU WONT BE LEFT BEHIND! MIKE DURANT! YOU WONT BE LEFT BEHIND!”
I am not even an American. You watch this film as a foreign civilian and you have your mind blown and respect and admire all the people involved. This podcast just took it to a different level.
If you are scared that there is so much evil and malice in the world. I will sleep better tonight knowing there are people like this in the world. Thank you Sir, for everything.
If you're not American this isn't for you. Go away America is full.
@@elpanchosancho2314 We would gladly trade you for him any day, not that he even remotely suggested intent to come here.
If you want to sleep even better find John "Shrek" McPhee, aka the sheriff of Baghdad. The unit makes men Tom Clancy couldn't even imagine.
Dont need to be American to appreciate the brotherhood they had
My dad was on the team to rescue Mike Durant. His stories of the whole thing are intense. A lot of heroes died then and we will never forget.
The feeling he said the words "we had tanks but it was a *political* decision not to use them. This man will make different choices in politics to those who have not served or worked out in the world. I wish him luck in his Senate run. We all need more politicians driven to serve their people not themselves.
Would it have been a good idea? Getting the tanks into such tight streets where humvees had trouble maneuvering would have made them RPG sponges
@@eriktruchinskas3747 Both guys said Tanks would have rolled through that shit.... 2 SOF guys said that... Lets agree with them lol
@Lockdown335 after watching a compilation of the m1 shrugging off rpg and tow missiles I have to agree with you. If they sent a m1 they could have wrecked shit, but you have to remember this was the clinton era military
Bill Clinton was running the show back then. A more political person was never born. Had it been Reagan or Trump the outcome would’ve been far different.
@Foggy I believe it was Bush who said that.
I lost my big brother in 94, he was a marine, i was 14 in 94. I would die for my brothers & I live for them. Id give my all for you. God has protected me & I thank you.
"I would die for my brothers" easy to say when u have never been in a situation to do so , poser
Jocko was definitely holding back tears . May those brave soilders Rest In Peace.
2 delta force Snipers asked to be inserted into a seemingly hopeless situation. This is why they are Delta Force and why they received Medals of Honor for forfeiting their lives to protect their fellow soldiers!
It wasn't *seemingly* hopeless.
It WAS hopeless!
THEY were the only hope. They requested multiple times to be inserted, KNOWING that if they couldn't get it done, there was no one else.
Talk about going out on your terms. My god. So many of us can only hope to be even a tenth of the man they were...
Truly amazing to finally see the real Mike Durant and hear his remarkable story. True hero
Hero??
@@adambane1719 Judging by your other comments, you're clearly quite the smooth brain. Good luck out there.
@@KrissyMeow *quite
Judging by your female "status", you clearly shouldn't be here.
@@adambane1719 LOL you tried.
Gotchya!
Maybe you'll think twice next time.
When Jocko starts off with a long exhale, you know it’s about to get real
Mike Durant is the true definition of a legend. I can’t wait to dive into this podcast. May the sacrifice of those who served in Operation Gothic Serpent and subsequent missions never be forgotten.
They are all definition of a legend there were so many moving pieces that day everybody involved
Absolutely. Just finished the podcast a few minutes ago. My respect level is even higher now.
Forget y.
I knew a lot of the guys from Gothic serpent. Worked with and for some.
Blackburn still owes me $60
Struker was my head RI.
Cash (the RPG magnet) was a team leader of mine in the 82nd.
For any faults they may have had, quitting never was one
Rude Dude!
Yeah he owes me money too!
Did Blackburn leave the army after his injury? Guessing he never got to stay in
Razors Edge!
It’s Nightstalkers Don’t Quit. Nsdq. Met this guy at Ft Campbell KY some years ago. He’s the real deal.
1:39:35 "I still remember the cloud" hits so hard.
I hope Mike guilts or motivates Jocko to get his ass into politics and run for something. This country needs men like this desperately. Let’s go fella’s, get after it!
I agree 10000000%
Jocko is making millions of dollars helping people and doing what he wants to do. He'd be insane to go into politics. He's also said multiple times he doesn't want to.
I agree, especially since he can take the heat as they try to destroy him like they did the other outsider. It would be a bad business decision but a great decision for at least half the country, but I bet he could get 3/4's on board.
Love to see him as a California senator eventually president... if he has the time
@@requited2568 u
U
U
U
U
I hope he wins in Alabama. We need him
I’m torn. I love Mo Brooks, always have. But then there is Mike Durant! We are blessed in Alabama to have such great men running for office. However, it does make for an ultra hard choice. I wish that Durant would would have run for the 5th U.S. Congressional District, then we could get them both. Decisions, decisions…
@@ronbyrd5091 Calera Alabama here. Same for me, but I'm leaning towards Mike, my gut is telling me he's the real deal and will not back down to the D.C machine.
Democrat or republican?
@@mr.hemlock1900 a pro Trump, anti vax mandate, pro 2A republican.
He has my vote for sure
Wow Mike Durant himself, a great guest
When you’re in the presence of great men like this, you can’t go wrong.
3 hours with Mike Durant and Jocko? Absolutely NSDQ
What’s NDSQ
@@MrDocseidel7 The 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment Motto “ Night Stalkers don’t quit! “
@@tacoenvy roger that, thanks bro.
Mike Durant was a helo pilot and not a stock broker, no need to bring up nsdq s&p etc. Don’t get him confused with dave ramsey.
@@edhoncho157 oiiiii hahaah joke of the year nominee here!
35:00 I really appreciated Mike taking the time to recognize Jocko's previous complimentary assessments of Army units he operated with and that Mike appreciated Jocko doing that. Far too often, interservice and interunit rivalries preclude this kind of dialogue and it should happen more often. One team, one fight. Good stuff.
Underrated Comment. I was wounded in action in Afghan and it was a combined effort across the multitude of supporting functions from all the services that saved my life and brought me home. Navy Corpsman, Air Force PJs, Coalition Medical Teams, Army, Air Force and Navy Surgeons. Air Force Helos and C17 Cargo Planes. .... the list goes on. One team one fight.
@@kevinhoffman9699 Thank you. And glad you made it out, hope you're back to 100% or close to it. Cheers
As a Mog vet in ‘93-‘94, it’s great to hear Mike share. Great details that help to fill in the gaps.
A mission of call of duty 4 modern warfare is actually called the mog. I wonder if that's a callback to black hawk down
I cried when I read the book "In the Company of Hero's"
Gut wrenching.
Thank you for your service sir.
That was a crazy book for sure. Can't remember if I cried while reading it, but I almost certainly did
Master Sgt Gary Gordon and Sgt First Class Randy Sughart completed their mission that day. Mr Durant is still with us
America isn't perfect but is the greatest country in the world. We have incredible heroes like Jocko, Mike, and everyone else who have served past and present. Thank you for your service.
Amen to that.
@Mike Durant after 22 years of pastoring a local church I have entered the NC Senate race. I understand what you are saying. I decided if I won't fight for my children's freedom then who will. Stand strong brother!
This is tough to watch. I saw this crap on television when it happened. I remember thinking why are we there. I have the most respect for members of our armed services. Thank you so much for everything you gave.
“ Mike Durant, we won’t leave you behind” - random night stalker little bird pilot
My wife and we’re at the arrival on CAAF when Mr Durant came home on the air ambulance AF bird. When he was wheeled out on the stretcher and held up his maroon beret, that was badass definitely the definition of hoaah!
Rest In Peace those that gave their life for their brothers and sisters that day. I just watched black hawk down, I’m at a loss of words for what Gary Gordon and Randy Shughart did…
If the A-10 was ever needed,it was in this debacle!!!
I work with Mike’s son in law. We’ve been waiting for this for some time.
Michael Durant is such an amazing guy. His humility, his candor and his understanding of various aspects is reassuring.
As for war, I was a prime participant in Ramadi with the 101st, 506th Infantry in Nov 05 through Nov 06. That place suuuucked.
This is pure fire!! I love Jocko bedtime stories! Thank you sir.
I bet you’re a really cool person. That’s just my hunch:) cheers!
Jocko willink reads the little engine that could
I’m always humbled by how humble Jocko is when reliving anguish and death stories.
I was stationed at Ft Campbell 7th battalion then and was part of his welcome home reception at the airfield. It was truly an honor and the closest I’ve ever been to such a Hero. NSDQ
I finnished that podcast with SEAL team 6 operator DJ Shiply, and rember he was just like - Dude, Black Hawk Down is one of the most realistic war movies ever made!
WOW Mike Durant! So awesome. i will never forget than brave mans face on the newspapers.
My unit deployed to the mog jan to mar i got out of the army in april. Saw the bhd on the news in oct i was so distraught wishing i was there to help. These guys are the best.
From the flight operations side of Sikorsky producing Blackhawks today - thank you both
Another home run for Team Jocko! He's sat with giants!
Pain has no bearing on this man…except for the loss of his brothers..I could not imagine
The day I watched Mike Durant on TV, being held captive, opened my eyes to the world. Mike is a true hero and I hope he wins his run for the Senate.
"They knew the situation was critical and they were there to work not chat" gave me chills
Wow! Mike Durant. The way he spoke of his brothers was just powerful. I could feel the respect. The sacrifice those men made is just absolutely unreal. To hear about it straight from the man who was there is so earth shattering strong. Pretty sure Jocko got choked up. Me too!
I like how Durant explained how there is a little more to 160th SOAR than just flying around when it comes to selection. It's a SOF pipeline and just like the others, it weeds 'em out!
Black Hawk Down is one of the greatest war movies ever made Its a Masterpiece
Seen the movie, read the book, read the Wikipedia page - still doesn’t compare to hearing it from the men themselves. As a side note, it might be cool to get someone like Howard Wasdin, a SEAL who participated in the battle, on the podcast. Thank you both for everything!
Absolutely, 100%. I’ve commented that Wasdin would be great for the Shawn Ryan Show / Vigilance Elite as well!
New England...
Never fuck with New England.
There is a really good interview on CZcams with 3 other participants, Kyle Lamb from Delta, Col. Perino from The Ranger Battalion and Col. Lee Van Arsdale (not sure what he was? Ranger? Delta?) at the Modern War College-West Point. Incredible to hear the stories of the ground battle from the dudes who lived it. Another one out there with Sgt. Struecker, a who was in the convoy. All excellent interviews. Amazing stories man.
@@traviskeeler4533 Can you link that interview if you don’t mind? That would be awesome to see.
@@MotoMatt418 Never done this before so I hope that is how it's done brother? If not, easy to find. Title is "Three Veterans Recall Battle of Mogadishu" Worth a watch for sure. Cheers mate.
czcams.com/video/yFwivrpFHE0/video.html
Attended a Prayer breakfast with my Son 10 years ago when CWO-4 Durant spoke. His story chilled me then and this interview did the same. God Bless you CWO. Semper Fidelis
What a blessing! God protected him for moments like that.
This guy is a true legend! God bless America
I dont know Jocko or any of these amazing Americans he has on this podcast but Im grateful for this opportunity to get this close. If I never get to shake hands just know I hold you all in the highest regard. God bless
Black hawk down the movie is what got me to join the army I was 34 2004 and august 17th 05 I was in ft benning starting a 12 year run and I still cry when I watch that movie it’s sadness n pride I wanted to be part of that machine we call the army and I did
Thanks. I had a Grand Mal stroke,& have been healing/recovering. I live for youTube. Every Podcast is a reminder…don’t quit! Keep fighting. Thanks.
I've never seen "Black Hawk Down" I'm hooked. I'm so anxious to watch it after this and I pray this man wins his Senate race. We need people like him in our leadership
Good luck. I am pretty emotional so I was enraged and in tears during much of it. Ha!
@@DontLetTheOldManIn Thanks! I watched it late last night. It was good but hearing their own testimony first didn't do it justice. I should've watched then went bk to the interviews. Makes me want to get his book now
Read the book first
You gotta watch it
Just came to youtube to comment since i listened on Spotify, This was an amazing story, it looks like ive got another book for the list, Thanks to the three of you for making it happen.
I remember watching all that unfold. I was a medical troop in the Air Force and felt so helpless. Thank God for the finest men on the planet 💪🏻🙏🏻🇺🇸❤️
Never been so excited for a guest!!
I waited for so long for this. One of my favorite war stories. Respect from Romania.
3:06:04 It was a true pleasure/privilege to be able to see Mr. Mike Durant on your podcast. Every time I watch a podcast of yours it is like a blessing from the Creator. Blessed are we to have men like that in our country.
I read his book religiously as a kid. He's an inspiration, and a well spoken man.
My cousin's and I cross the Master Sergeant Gary Gordon Memorial Bridge when we go up to the hunting camp. I always make it a point to mention Gothic Serpent and the reason for the bridge's name. I can't even begin to comprehend what those guys went through that day. Less than 200 of America's most elite warriors and pilots against a scorned city.
Thank you Jocko, Echo, and Mike Durant for this episode.
What hurts most about this podcast.... is the aging of Mike Durant! ACK. Means i'm getting old too!
The Black Hawk Down overlaps my life of those days.... hearing the rumors of "Rangers training on Fort Bragg" and weak newspaper clippings on orderly room wall about the battle.. One of few guests on Jocko Podcast that does that.
When he was talking about Panama, it brought back some memories. I lived in Panama from 1989-1996. My dad was Air force security forces and was stationed at Howard Air force base. We lived at Albrook Air force base.
Lived on Howard AFB as a dependent from 86-88. I was stationed in Turkey, Air Force Security Forces (Security Police then) during the Panama Invasion. Remember watching CNN coverage on AFN and knowing all of the places where the fighting was happening.
dang, glued to the whole podcast and drooling over it the whole time...but the best damn thing I hear is at the 2hr 45min mark. Such a blessing to have folks like Mike willing to keep moving forward and truly serving.
This is one of the best episodes. I read this book over ten years ago. It really left an impression on me. I bought numerous copies of the book and gave them as gifts. I wanted to share the story with so many. A few years ago I went to the Airborne and SF museum at Bragg and saw the exhibit from Somolia and the book and Mike Durant’s experience. He is a true hero as well as all those there that day. We owe them all a debt of gratitude.
Great story. My unit 3rd Bn 9th Marines landed in Somalia Dec 93. This story has always been special to me. Thank you for sharing.
Black Hawk Down is literally my favorite movie of all time. Listening to this was better than the movie
@The Truth both are stories about real life. The movie is entertaining, while this is far more detailed and interesting
@@georgiashooter3739 no the movie is a movie. Paul Howe has been quoted that about 10% of it is accurate. The most realistic aspect being it’s portrayal of the violence of action and that’s about it.
@@jeffreylc I never said it was a documentary. "A movie is a movie". Great argument lol. Like I said, the movie was entertaining, the podcast was more detailed and interesting. There's a reason alot of guys who have been in combat say that Black Hawk Down is one of the few times Hollywood got close to portraying aspects of what it's like to be in combat. It's a great movie. Millions more people watched the movie than will watch this podcast, but like I said, to me the podcast was even better than the movie
Every single one of Jocko's Podcasts should be put into the library of Congress. This is history recorded, and should be protected at all costs so these stories, and the warriors who lived them, are never, ever forgotten. God bless Mike Durant, Jocko, and all who serve.
What a great night at home ! Got this podcast in my ears , and watching Die Hard on Tube , ( and Yes ! It’s a Christmas movie) God Bless and Merry Christmas!
I have watched all the movies about war and read so many books, but nothing beats Jocko’s long format interviews! For someone who never served, it is the closest I can ever feel to being put in these situations.
Wow I forgot about this guy. Looking forward to listening. This dude went through some shit.
Sitting up In Maine, waiting for tomorrow's snow. Saving this for shoveling 💪🏽. Thanks Jocko!
Started listening summer 2020. Had to catch up. 312 podcasts, finally smashed the subscribe button.
His book was one of my favorites growing up, it still is. I cannot give anything greater to him and everybody else in GS than my deepest respect. NSDQ
My first ever Blackhawk ride was at Camp Zama Japan with CW4 Ray Frank in the right seat. Going from a Huey to a Hawk was like going from a B-17 to a B-1 bomber. Ray gave us a life changing ride that day over the Kanto Plain. The day I heard of what happened to him was a horrible kick in the gut. Rest in Peace Ray.
It is so sad to hear the frustration in Jocko’s voice about the deaths of his fellow soldiers. It is like he was there.
Live down the road from Fort Rucker. Cool to hear Jocko name it! 😎 Alabama needs someone like Mike Durant. Thank you all for serving, and hope the families of those lost during Mogadishu find some peace. 🖤
I love all of you reading this. I hope your end of the year brings you a peaceful start to the new one. Here’s to happy closings and new beginnings!
This is by far one of the best podcast I have ever listened to . This story has changed my life it what got me to join the army and stop being a freedom moocher . I remember my first days in FT benning seeing Gordon n Shuberts pictures on the wall and the feeling I had was pride pride to be walking the same halls of those guys and Mike being a local guy I lived up New Hampshire. Unbelievable story had me glued In for the ride . Ps I went with 82nd airborne and that’s what we did air assault I’m in those birds that went down just the history alone makes me proud n sad remembering that day in this story
I knew I was going to cry on this one. God bless our troops past present and future. This civi is truely grateful
Was brought to tears during this podcast I was introduced like most by the movie as a child the rawness of war seeing the sacrifice by Gary and Randy was not lost of me even at a young age. The mayhem, I remember asking how could they let this happen to Americans?! We don't lose! So Mike really hit the nail on the head by saying the movie brought humanity to the people like no other. As an adult reading the books now hearing his account I am so grateful for the perspective
When Jocko choked up, you could tell it was because he recognized a piece of himself somewhere in that inexplicably courageous Man. Placing himself in those boots for a moment, determining to remaining resolved in the face of hopelessness.
I was thinking he was thinking about his guys that died and made the ultimate sacrifice just like these guys. Jocko cares so much about his men that I think he would be thinking of them.
RIP to all involved. Godspeed gentlemen.
That was powerful to listen to AND glad he's running for Alabama. Thanks for another great podcast Jocko, Echo, and Mike. ✌️
One of, if not the Best podcasts I've ever watched! Emotionally and detailed descriptive memory of events like none other. I can never thank the men and women of the Military and their families enough. Thank you, Sam Zippo
After being in a few firefights myself I'll tell you...nothing....nothing sounds better than the Ma deuce raining justice on the people that shoot you or at you. It's like the bully just showed up to the playground fight and he's got your back.
Damn this is a long podcast. I keep having to break it up, but it is so good. Thank you JOCKO for the high quality products you and Echo produce. Thank you for Mike Durant.
Incredible story. So much respect for these heroes. They were in an A- hole hell hole of the world.
Bothers me knowing we have somalis coming into the US who celebrate the day of the ranger and the hell Durant, Gordon, Shughart and so many others went through
Like who ? Rep. Ilhan Omar ?
Agreed !
@@adamgardener8624 gary gordon was from maine. loat his life in somalia. If you go to lewiston me, you can find the little mogadishu center there and i believe portland me just elected one to a local office. the culture and norms of somalia are not compatable with the US. people who celebrate the death and desecration of our servicemen should not be in the country let alone public office
@@patient_6925 100% friend. F dees MFs.
It’s a retarded way of thinking to suggest they should of layed down and licked boots in their own country. I am a Somali American born here who is also a republican and I can see it from both sides
Did not see the campaign stumping coming at the end . Was a good podcast till that point.
Trailers are the modern equivalent of the old viking long houses. Then just like now our best warriors are raised in them.
That's a quote.
Thank you all for your service and sacrifices.
Thanks Mike Durant. Thanks Jocko. I was so wrapped up in this story, my 3 year year old just scribbled all over my recently painted white walls with a green sharpie and I had no idea until half my walls were ruined lol
I’ve watched Black Hawk Down more then any other movie so as you can imagine this gave me a bit of a chub when this came across my feed.
Just wanted to add ,after being Airborne Infantry with the 82nd and being out for 5 years I joined the 3/20th SFG, National Guard (where I got better training than my whole time in the 82nd! We were breifed on the Somali situation (including satellite imagery) and were ready to deploy until they pulled the plug..
I joined the Army in '99 and came back from Korea a month before 9/11. Never realized until this interview I was in the military at the same time as Mr. Durant. I actually entertained the idea of joining 160th
Awesome discussion as usual.
Thanks for doing this,
true American hero’s
Each and all of you.
Words can't describe how I feel about this podcast , but I will say this ,I was fighting back tears when jocko read the letter from his wife. Take it a day at a time....