The evolution of the movie backdrop
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- čas přidán 13. 02. 2024
- Matte paintings have transformed movies for over a hundred years. AI could be the next step in making them.
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When I look at movies from the ’20s to the ’90s, I’m blown away by the worlds that filmmakers were able to create with their visuals. From Mary Poppins to Ben-Hur to Star Wars, they truly made things that people had never seen before - all with little to no help from computers.
How did they pull off such striking and novel visuals? Well, often, it was just with a paintbrush and some glass.
With a technique called matte painting, skilled artists would paint a scene and black out a portion of the frame for live-action photography. The actors would be filmed on footage that blacked out the painted backdrop, and then filmmakers would combine the two exposures to make one seamless scene.
This, of course, all changed once computers entered the industry. By the late 1990s, matte paintings were almost entirely digital. Just a few decades later and now they’re almost all made in 3D.
With the development of AI, a new evolution might be on the horizon. Tune in to Vox’s latest to find out how AI might soon change the matte painting industry - again.
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AI is good, sponsored by Microsoft. 🤨
Same 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😣😣😣😣
This might be the best time to switch to another OS.
yeah, this just feels like Microsoft paying for some good PR disguesed as news.
Wait just one second! It doesn't just feel like that, that is exactly what this is!
I'm reminded of that Film Theory episode recently how Disney is putting pro-AI themes in their most recent films and television shows.
If you’re gonna cry so much just don’t watch the video. They weren’t hiding it at all, it was very obvious this was a sponsored video. However if you cut out all the sponsored parts, it is still a regular video. It’s just marketing yall
Freelance retoucher here. Photoshop a.i. has hit the workflows HARD. I used to be massively in demand. But this year I’ve only done 3 days of work. And in those days I’ve used Ai to do things that should’ve taken me 10x longer to do, leading to booking cancellations because I’ve done the job in no time. So yeah, bit scared.
My last job was 80% writing social media posts. I quit at the end of last year to start my own business as I could see the writing on the wall. They’ve replaced me with ChatGPT and they’re getting the same engagement as before. Now I’m working in a higher-skilled position. But eventually that might get automated. It’s all about chasing the next gig I guess. Not fun, but if you don’t, you’ll go down with the ship.
It could also be pretty exciting in that such technology opens up new possibilities for passion projects to be fulfilled inexpensively.
@@Iamwolf134did you just tell this man that he should starve because some 12 year old in Idaho can now make his own comic book for free?
There's a lot of us artists working to get government regulations and worker protections around AI to protect artists now and future non creative industries later. Why don't you get involved? Seems like you are helping with the demise of your own field. 10x times less work means 10x less pay, and at a certain point, what skills are you bringing to the table that a random person that could be paid less can't do with AI?
@@gladitsnotme no.
it is getting depressing seeing genuinely good content from Vox slowly be overshadowed by sponsored content like this- just another drop in the bucket of a seemingly well-meaning story about change in tech that is conveniently backed by Microsoft to get us used to "AI" when that technology itself is unethical and needs to be changed.
Vox has gotten worse for sure recently!
There's nothing unethical with AI because Intelectual Property do not exist, is just a state protected monopoly, a crime against humanity.
Then donate to them. Thry wouldn't need sponsorships if you, the viewer, paid them.
"Who owns the data(/art) this was trained on?" is the question that is vitally important to answer.
Nobody, Intelectual Property is not real, is just a state protected monopoly that needs to go.
Adobe already answered that question with a generative art model trained completely licensed work.
And who own all the art that we see and later becomes our inspiration, consciously or unconsciously?
What you asked is irrelevant because we humans do the same as the machine.
Morality is immaterial. What matters is a solution that ensures everybody eats.
I suppose in the best timeline, we could see some kind of negotiation with data brokers so that artists can extract a fair percentage of the extra value gained, just as CZcams gives out 55% of ad revenue to their creators.
As an animator, I often wonder who is asking this question, are you a fellow artist or are you an audience? I'm asking this because any artist would know that all of art is about "stealing", not just "steal like an artist", but as Plato and Aristotle argued way back, art is a mimesis of nature, all of art is a copy of a copy of nature.
Who owns any part of any art that was made? When you do a kit bash for a prop, did the sculptor not grab pieces from other existing art pieces and objects? When photoshop a composition for a backdrop as this video demonstrated, a standard industry practice, did you not grab pieces from existing images? AI just does the same thing but faster.
Thanks for having us on! 🖌🎨
How can Maxx not be a Star Wars fan ? Ralph McQuarrie is turning in his grave.
nah i think i'll stick with art done by humans thanks
Humans use technology to make and share art every day so good luck with that
@@dustyoldhatnobody cares about your opinion
@@SlyQueguy Your mom does
Yea, but a 3D render that takes hours upon hours of time to sculpt is not even close to the same as the amount of time it took me to write this comment@@dustyoldhat
@@dustyoldhat Childish comeback tbh
I'm very disappointed that Vox chose to go with a Microsoft sponsorship for this video--if not a series of videos--on AI, when Microsoft is making their Copilot suite key to the company. I worry about editorial judgement being compromised with this sponsorship. Even though Vox states "Microsoft has no editorial influence on our videos," financial compensation can still absolutely affect the reporting.
Step 1: Create an AI tool with ethically-sourced training data
step 2: fail
Adobe has shown that even if you make an AI tool with "ethically-sourced training data", critics will just ignore it and focus on the unethical ones.
Instructions unclear. I've plagiarized *so many* people. 😥
Translation: “pay me”
Ethics get in the way of technological advancement.
“And they’re kind of sick.”
Me: lets out a very long sigh
I hate that AI affected the one thing I thought it wouldn’t. Seeing people create using techniques is really cool but Ai just makes everything feel bland.
I see so many people have similar thoughts as you and it’s just a toxic mentality people have now against AI
“Anything created by AI has no soul, just boring, bland, garbage, etc”
If I were to show you a beautiful photo and a garbage photo I were to say the beautiful photo is human made but it actually was AI generated and the garbage photo was human generated you would choose the beautiful photo.
However as soon as I were to tell you it was AI generated your mentality would instantly change and you would say again “Anything created by AI has no soul, just boring, bland, garbage, etc.”
People now a days such as yourself have created this purely toxic mental mind and hate anything that’s AI generated.
AI will affect anything technology related.
@@ashdang23people using AI pictures are lazy, it spreads misinformation faster then a wildfire, and video AI is stupidly realistic now, if you look at the latest models. All AI images look relatively the same like in lighting, scenery, etc. Picture/video creating AI has nothing to offer us. Other AI’s are much more helpful if used correctly like in science or statistics.
@@ashdang23 Complete and utter nonsense. All I hear from you is:
"I don't care that creatives are losing their jobs to AI and will have to rely on welfare and government revenue being spent on them while simultaneously revenue will drop since they don't have jobs. In fact, I don't actually understand anything about how a country functions and I'm happy to watch society collapse because I love AI so much."
To be honest, I don’t really like AI, but I don’t dismiss it entirely. It will become just another way of creating things
The generative fill of the Death Star landing dock is a perfect example of one of the current issues with AI. That entry portal is supposed to be large wide aperture open all the way across. The generative fill AI is interpreting the folded up wing of the Emperor’s Shuttle to be extended and the fill ends up creating an opening that looks like a sliding window in a suburban tract home 😂
Yeah that's why you go back in and edit it or regenerate until it looks right
@@jamesrosewell9081 No, I don't.
The remark that using AI is cheaper must have been made without the awareness of the true costs, not just of producing films but, more generally speaking, our whole way of living. AI needs a lot of electrical power for training computers and eventually having them produce these high quality graphics. Most of it is produced with fossil fuels. Building and periodically replacing all those computers takes often irreplaceable natural resources and leaves a lot of waste.
The costs of our expensive way of living will have to be paid for by future generations, because we will not.
Me (a professional matte painter): *sweats profusely*
What does "presented by Microsoft" exactly mean here? Sponsored content?
they gave them money but have no editorial influence
means your bum's about to get penetrated matey
Which still means something. If they say something thats not favorable about them that means they wont give them money again in the future.@@tobias6249
Yes.
It means you haven't paid Vox a single cent, so Microsoft has given them some money to pay for this content.
I hope AI replaces all the workers at Vox ❤ Then lets see how great and inevitable AI is and how Vox will justify it displacing people cause "uh, the market"
So, Ai as inspiration and not a final render, is what I'm taking from this.
For now..
Hopefully one of MANY inspirations so you don't end up with bland, overly derivative work
Was Microsoft getting a Super Bowl ad not enough?
Please tech strivers, we like our soul. Let us keep it.
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Oil painting is such an underrated invention
Amazing. You love your patents, copyrights, trademarks, licences so much that even AI generated content is copyrighted :)
I used his assets! It was awesome!
Good luck trying to decipher what you’re seeing on screen is actually real or not.
That last quote really nails it. Human + computer!
4:24 Watching this while working on a video in Blender 😁
Great video!
Thanks for useful and valuable video as always ❤❤❤
Technologies getting a lot better these days . I agree this opinion . This is true and we are see this .
AI doesn't have one very important feature that just humans have at the moment: creativity.
Still, it's a very useful tool to show variations on a same artwork if is used properly.
Nobody wants Microsoft Copilot
Please make a Video about Sora AI🙏🙏. I was interested in animation but because of Sora I am so much confused Right Now. Should I learn animation, should I learn coadding or any other thing which are related to computer work cause I think it is the matter of time when Computers which were made to make things easy for humans will be taking everything from us. It can do everything. I know this might not be that time but we can see it is coming towards us really fast. Technology is advancing really fast, it is growing in such a speed which we can not even adapt to it. My first question is if AI can create movies, songs and every creative thing that humans can do and it can be done by every person then what will be the value of art because if it happens then there will be movies which will be releasing in each and every second in the world. same goes for music. I mean if everyone can create music and movies just by using some prompts then who will be the audience. I mean who will be watching those things. I know that this "many" thing is happening I mean , many people are making different contents and the number of creator are increasing day by day But the thing is it's not about "how many creators" now it's about "Why is everyone a creator" because people are still watching things and supporting creator until now I mean it's not that big number in my view. Not every is perfect in everything that's why many industry exist that's why everyone can not make movies, if a person who is doing his job and when he comes to home he just use some random words and make a movie by just using AI. There won't be any value to these things. And I hope that it won't happen. And even if it happens then My second question is who will be known as talented person or an artist? I think I have a answer for this question those who can type some words or who can command AI to create things will be known as artist not those who knows how to sing not those who knows how to draw not any one who are actually artist and are talented. And at last I want to say one thing that i have used the word "movie" in this comment many time it was just to explain my opinion in a clear way.🙏
When was Photoshop Generative Fill Tool released?? Approximately??
It's been out for a long time, I'm not sure but it might be a year at this point, maybe more.
Early 2023
May 2033
Was this filmed prior to Sora?
How do you think about sora
This is not the vox i know,i came for the animation and meticulous explanation yet i got none.
Just 2 guys chatting on laptops.
My bowel session has been disturbed and must be balanced.
at the end he mentioned it hadn't been used in film yet, but there is some really innovative and interesting use of AI in XG's GRL GVNG music video. it was directed by the photographer Cho Gi-Seok.
Shout out to the alphaz
I don't have hope for AI at all unless the images are sourced with complete consent. I think AI will go the way of Betamax.
Let's go new upload
Vox is useful chanel. Great!
3:43 to skip the ad.
7:21 to skip the ad
AI is not inherently bad. It can be a good thing, depending how it's being used and how it was developed.
This was released 5 days ago and they are still talking about Nvidia canvas? This must have been produced like 8 months ago. They are waaaaaay behind.
Cool interview, not so cool sponsor
Usually sponsored content on vox is labeled as such in the video title so what gives?
And then, 24hrs after publishing, OpenAI release “Sora” and this video is immediately outdated… Thanks for the heads up, video sponsor 😂
Skip Ad 3:45
Sora just finished this premise
Yippie 🎉
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Thankyou for this vid
really inspiring video!
0:31 transição legal de passagens
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As someone who uses gpt to bounce coding ideas off of for game development, it's a game changer . Granted you have to have good coding knowledge to prompt it / clean up what it produces, but it really gives a great starting point faster than before.
That last line feel like a dog whistle to the machine god to anyone else? No? Just me?
I mean, this video was made by a human and a computer, and you're a human watching this video on a computer. So it's nothing new, in that sense
I’m inspired
You, guys make great Videos!! Love you!!
7:10 fin.
Ai=no jobs
It’s a real shame Vox relies on ad reads now and heavily sponsored content for every video. That and making key team members redundant. Needs, must - but still a sad sign of how things have changed and you’ve lost a lot of integrity as a result.
How much money have you given vox? Since you hate them taking sponsorships so much.
Solo nos queda vivir en sillas gamer con un orificio para defecar, mientras tenemos uno de esos cascos VR y los controladores con la mente
Interesting to see the evolution of movie backdrops from painting to 3D Computer.
Sora ai!
why are people still surprised about anything about matte painting
Microsoft:
I will train my AI by stealing artists' works without their permission, then I will try to take their works away.
Instead of using artificial intelligence for health, I want to take the jobs of people who love their jobs.
I wonder what does the director and photography director think.
Video on AI art sponsored by an AI product failing to dive into the biggest issues of AI which is copyright
Cool that they made a video for a Microsoft commercial.
hello invest in AI
sponsored by Microsoft.
😮😮😮😮
I like how Vox cares about exploited labor except when it suits its own needs and its sponsors.
Stop with AI. Support Artists.
Well this video is about to age pretty badly. Welcome Open A.I Sora.
Art is expression.
A machine cannot express.
The US Copyright Office says that AI generated works cannot be copyrighted.
But copyrighted materials are used to make them.
How can we possibly justify something that vampirically leeches cultural expression and financial compensation to make something that has neither artistic merit nor legal right to its existence.
Inception
Bhai editing kase kaetten
In the future, you will be able to tell AI - "I want to watch a new Star Wars movie with the original characters that is based on Timothy Zahn books" Then the movie will be generated for you automatically to watch.
And now Soma AI... I just hate this, it's going to feed into the pleasure now aspect of our society (tiktok, ect) and eliminate thousands of artist's job. Though, I have hope that people will support artists over AI, and make an effort to see something actually created WITH effort. If not, then I hope a meteor hits us soon.
Yo
Lol one big ad for chat GPT and sora. Come on vox... smh
Ew
AI “aRt”🤢🤢
omg stop doing these videos sponsored by AI telling us how it is OK to use AI. at least try to hide the shilling a little bit
AI bad
Ahhh, so Max Burman is one of the guys to blame for ruining how sci-fi movies are made. AI will be the nail in the coffin.
wow, such an important, well-said comment especially during this time. "Every era of a technology change, it’s looked at as cheating until it becomes commonplace".
Ugh. What an uncritical look at the subject. I believe that Microsoft didn’t have any editorial control, but man this is a sad one.
how we watched the same video? They talked about the limitations and grey area re. the lP. What major point have they missed that would deem this video to be "uncritical"? Genuinely asking.
easy design not original .... Canva New Era
"Human plus computer beats … computer [alone]"
This is often repeated, but is already not true in certain domains and will likely not remain true in the others.
9th comment.
Then film production needs to separate what works used AI and which ones did not.
As a 3d artist in sports we’ve already fully embraced Ai into our toolkits. Also, we LOVE Kitbash3d. Awesome interview.
Bye bye jobs 👋
First
Secret invasion though? 🙃 Some of the AI commentary here seems a little out of date. Style and composition tuning is a big part of e.g. MJ6, and AI faces do not typically look distinguishable from photographic anymore.
13 views.. vox fell off man
Cuz it just barely got posted
@@r0ckybradley I think they were joking
I see Star Wars I click
AI is great. I'm pretty sure it has been used in production, but more in a deepfake way rather than as a matte painting tool. I know a lot of places uses it for concept art or references though.
Babe, wake up, another Vox video got posted!
You have babe 😮
@@batman_2004nah, it's a phrase used when an awaited creator posts and you are excited.
Romans 10:9-13💝
1 John 1:9🙏
It would be great if generative AI could do this.