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Vikings' J.J. McCarthy: Minicamp didn't feel like first day | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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The only two media members who show the vikings respect
I mean florio is a fan, so take everything he says with a grain of salt
NFC North could be the best division in the NFL. For many years to come.
Both the norths👀👀👀
Vikings have been making amazing moves since Kwesi and KOC took over. Completely set up for future success.
Minus drafting well
This kid is legit and if you haven't watched him or you don't know anything about him I could understand any misconceptions you have. However, if you watched him at all with any length or understand who he is you understand the Vikings got a great QB
Kevin looks pretty excited, I love it
Kind of funny how many haters this kid has… he doesn’t know you exist… just be a fan goofballs
Does any athlete know any of theirs fans or haters? Every qb in league has people who like and dislike them. That’s what fans do
If you look at old college game recordings of JJ McCarthy.
You can see some flashes of Tarkenton.
He's smart, and agile, with a strong arm.
huh? lol 😂ok
Lmao
@@dariusewing6962 Darius don't be insecure about the next great white QB. You'll always have 25% of Pat Mahomes, lmao.
Tarkenton had a weak arm, average at best.
@@ScoutsHonorBB50%
Another superstar in the making
I just realized McCarthy is wearing Tommy Kramer's old jersey number.
It’s okay. Two-Minute Tommy gave JJ permission to use his number.
And Jim McMahon"s number when he was a Viking:)
Tommy Kramer was a drunk when he got older and drank more all he did was throwing interceptions
@@JamesJetland Okay Karen. Jesus. 🙄
@@stevencass8849hes not wrong. Tommy was a well known alcoholic and his drinking definitely led to a decrease in his effectiveness over the years until he was pretty unplayable.
Gonna be a stud!
I wouldn't be surprised if JJ McCarthy is the starter week one as the starting QB.
McCarthy, KOC and Addison were at the game.
Damn, I hate this... Being a Michigan fan, I love the prospects for a successful career for McCarthy but hate that he will be facing my Lions! Feels much like following Brady's career except now in my division...😄😒
He’s the fifth best quarterback in the division. Even Malik might he be better
don't worry Vikings do what they do and thats choke!!!
Hey @@dariusewing6962, with good regular season statistics...
Man that's Chet Holmgren for us in Minnesota in the NBA
Your Lions? What do you get for your ownership? High priced food, tickets and beverages?
The Vikings have a new rookie QB and he is barely 21. How great is that?
Thats our guy
PVRP jj let’s go !!!💜
O'Connell actually looks like a young Jim Harbaugh.
Nah, he looks like a young bud grant
@@theycallmeshim6723 I always thought so too!
Simms dislike for Maye seems personal lol
This dude is the biggest JJ homer I’ve ever seen.
They should call McCarthy "One up" since 9 is one up from 8.
I think Raddler takes Carrs job in a year or two..
Who is raddler?
Week 11 he takes over
Hopefully
Keeping sleeping on the Vikings 😂😂 yall gonna be woke tf up this season just watch
You may be right. The defense and running game should be better than last year and hopefully one of the quarterbacks does well enough to get the team to the playoffs.
Kirk, like always, has a no trade clause
He can waive it though.
@RandyPeterson17 he only gonna do that if he gets the perfect situation, in the right market, and more money
He has a lot of leverage. Or Atl does a Denver and eats the dead money and releases him. If they switch to Penix, Cousins has to go. Can't have that drama in the locker room
@@DJC1916 double payday. Now you're speaking Big Kirko's language
@@DaHood52402 Absolutely! He'd love that opportunity
Cousins has a no trade clause in his contract though doesn’t he?
He does but if he's on board with a trade he can waive/re-work say the Raiders trade for him or something to that effect
As a Vikings fan for the past 50 years, if the Falcons do indeed move on from KC after one year, it couldn’t happen to a more deserving QB. The reality is that KC lined is pockets with over 180 million dollars and only won one playoff game in 6 seasons despite the team loading up on offensive weapons at the expense of defense to try to get more out of KC. KC held the team hostage with his contract keeping the team in cap purgatory. I would also argue that just as Justin Fields was a one dimensional QB so was KC who never put the team on his back and used his feet to extend series, choosing instead to put his health and pocketbook as the top priorities. If anyone owed the Vikings the Tom Brady hometown discount it was KC!
💜🤝
Throws such a nice ball he reminds me of Kirk cousins or Matt Ryan
He's a better Pat Mahomes with a weaker arm.
@@ScoutsHonorBBand his arm ain’t even weak. Strongest arm at the combine. Just goes to show you what a Canon mahomes has.
@@RandyPeterson17 I desperately wanted McCarthy to the Pats, but we got Maye. Could have traded for 6 and a 1st from the giants too, and the giants probably would have stunk with Maye, so that pick next year would have been very valuable.
Has Rodgers's release
McCaffrey‘s brother still has a lot of work to do becoming a receiver but he can end up being good with tht bloodline, yes they have 3 RBs, Robinson only had 733 yds rushing, Gibbs and Chris I mean let’s keep it real wasn’t a big factor stats wise. Terry is the only weapon for Jaydon based off last yr. And Terry is a beast.
Penex can throw the football -- but if you watch the games he played against Oregon and Michigan, the kid took a beating. Can his frame take the punishment of the NFL?
translation: there will be a learning curve
There always is. Every QB ever.
@@user-yc6pt6wu7o Andrew Luck - 11-5 his first THREE seasons with the Colts. Tom Brady - 11-3 and a Super Bowl victory in his first season as a starter with the Patriots. So, maybe not every QB ever.
@@richarddean3154 so Tom Brady and Andrew Luck were in their best forms in their rookie year or did they get better as the years went on?
@@richarddean3154 Brady sat on the bench for a year and a half. Luck is the exception that proves the rule.
For the Falcons, if they are headed to the playoffs they don't care. They are 500 after 8 games they consider their other plan. After this year if they like the guy and he played well, and I believe he will have more than 100 throws this year, they dump Cousins or clear the Rogers bar for Cousins staying beyond 2 years.
“It was actually kind of slow to me." Fields told reporters after the game. 2021
SUPERBOWL😊
Go blue we rooting jj even though division rivals
Jefferson, Addison, Hockenson......
The Sons of Anarchy.
And Aaron Jones!!!!!!
Skol! Go Wolves! Let beat the Nuggets on the next 2 games!
Let’s keep it a buck Sims, Jaydon doesn’t have tht good of a supporting cast. Terry is a really good WR and he’s doing it all alone out there. Jaydon needs more helps
What about Jahan Dotson gonna make year 2 leap....They just drafted a TE in top 40 Ben Sinott and they signed Zack Ertz.. They also drafted McCaffrey younger brother...They also got 2 good offensive lineman in FA.....They also have excellent running backs....3 of them
You only know hyped up players but Washington did a great job this offseason.....They even have a hidden gem TE named Cole Turner who is going to year 2
Doesn't kirk have a no trade clause with the falcons? Pretty sure they're stuck with him no matter what, and he's a stickler about that no-trade. He wants to retire in atlanta 😂
Cousins has a no trade clause, so he'd have to be willing to go to a team if they roll with Penix. He could force their hand to cut him so he can once again test the market.
Cutting Cousins would be costly. So will trading him. This year it would be 90 mil dead and 65 mil additional cap hit for a team which has only 5 mil of cap space which will not cover their rookie contracts. Next year 65 dead and additional 25 mil cap hit. All this and a no trade clause. Good Luck
@@jeffreyolive8375 He isn't going anywhere. He'll play well and there won't be a controversary I'd assume. But it there is, it'll be an expensive one for Atlanta regardless.
JM won't see the field this year!
This league chews and spits out quarterbacks year over year. Caution with all these quarterbacks.
Florio is adamant lately in staying over and over that whoever the QB is, McConnell will get the best out of him. FLORIO ONLY KNOWS THAT BECAUSE SIMMS SAID IT. Florio never used to say that. Ever. He doesn’t watch film. He doesn’t study their offense and McConnell offensive philosophy and his coaching history at different places blah blah blah. He had zero clue truly. He’s just saying it because he heard Simms say it and he believes Simms. And that’s what Florio does with every one of his X’s and O’s take. He doesn’t know it himself he just trusts what he hears from Simms. He’s such a con-artist fraud but it’s not that hard to see through his fake bullshit
He’s coached by what people consider to be a solid QB, offensive and head coach while in college and y’all thought he wasn’t going to come into the league prepared?
He’s going to be the top rookie QB very easily, I have zero faith in Caleb.
Go watch college Caleb and college Justin Fields.
Fields looks like the clear choice between the 2.
Hopefully Sam stays healthy this year
Dumb words.
@@softjones3128 how so?
@@romain8390 If you have to ask, he's right about you.
@@ScoutsHonorBB nah. Sam is the better player right now. He was better in college, and with an opportunity with an actual good team this year, I believe he will do well. Hopefully, he stays healthy, I’ll say it again.
yes start sam please but jj is the future dont burn your damn bridges only fools rush in
Florio needs to really stop dumping on the Falcons. Even when talking about the Vikings he circles back to beating on the carcass of that dead horse.
Who cares what simms thinks, he said Mond was going to be a good quarterback
too bad Jefferson will not resign with the Vikings.....they have two years to enjoy his abilities...and then get a 3rd round comp pick for him.....
Who says he's leaving? Everything has been quiet regarding his contract. Which means things are fine. They have the cap space to pay him and he likes it in Minnesota. I know you guys in Wisconsin don't want to hear it. But, Jefferson will be a Viking for a long time.
@@shawnjohnson9763 Time will tell....he turned down a contract that made him the highest pd wr.... then turned down another......from what I am hearing he is riding it out...Vikes have him for this year then a tag year.....then an option for a 2nd tag year, at a huge number.....
@@stevelarson6384 where are you hearing that? From the national media haircut jabronis? They want Jefferson in a bigger market. The biggest hold up is probably waiting to see what Lamb and Chase get paid. Jefferson wants to be the highest paid non qb in the league. Which makes sense and the Vikings will pay him.
Michael Penix's workouts look amazing...like...he could be the starter this year no problem. Supporting him is OC Zac Robinson and Passing Coach Tim Berbenich ( both from the RAMS )
McCarthy has the same amount of confidence as Fields
idk what to feel about that. Fields is atrocious!
You want him to be unconfident?
The difference is that JJ has better coaching and can read defenses.
Yea cuz mcconnel did such an amazing job with jaren hall 😅😅😅
His first drive ended in a goal line concussion...
I’m guessing Jaren Hall is gonna stick around for the next couple years and develop into a solid QB
@@scottfisher352, I think he'll develop into a solid backup of not lower tier starter.
Hall is a raw Day 3 pick. He has plenty of time to develop. He'll likely be a solid back up. Which is good value for a 5th round pick.
He is literally cousins all over again. Even his throwing motion is the exact same..
Have you watched him in a pro game yet? Just curious
@@user-ph7rl7pz5z I saw every throw he made last season. Theres a 47min vid of it here on CZcams. Saw his throwing motion slow motion in rookie camp. He’s the same guy. Much more athletic, but with a lack of ability to anticipate throws, which is key NFL football. That’s what the tape says, everyone says that he can learn those things, but that’s about spatial awareness, feel, timing, it’s more artistic than it is logical, it’s not necessarily something that can be taught which is why the falcons drafted Michael Penix Junior and three other teams were trying to trade up to get him
Cousins was a statue with a good arm. Nobody knows for sure what a rookie QB will do in the NFL until
they're on the field. One thing I'm sure of with JJ is he'll be moving his feet. He's more reminiscent of Tarkenton than Kirk.
Dang. Which team do you scout for, again?
@@joojoosasa I do my own scouting, because those same scouts told me that Baker Mayfield should go first overall, Josh Rosen was going to be a franchise quarterback, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Mac Jones, and Zack Wilson we’re all going to be studs. The truth is even the guy to get paid hundred thousand if not millions of dollars to get it right, get it wrong. So it’s wiser for me to trust myself rather than to trust somebody else.
lol way more content as a falcons fan NOT having McCarthy
I’m sure you are content with having 24 years Rookie on ice.
It will be very interesting to see if Penix turns out to be much better than JMac. They could've taken JMac instead of Penix, and let him develop for a season or two under Kirk, and still have a very young QB.
@@gamadahussein6663 we have a great QB starting for two years and a great QB waiting to start….the horror!! id much rather be the Seahawks or Steelers and in mediocre qb hell!
@@johnswanson3741 difference is Michael Penix led the nation in passing and was tasked of running the offense through him at Washington. The complete opposite of jj mccarthys career. Being young doesn’t matter if you SUCK Zach Wilson, Trae lance, and Justin fields were 3 and done and look at their massive successes
Yeah, nothing like Kirk "First Round Exit" Cousins to bring the delusion to the city! Have fun being disappointed, then being disappointed again when your made-of-glass backup QB gets injured. The Falcons aren't a threat to anyone. We beat y'all with a 3rd string QB that had only been on the team for four days. What're you talking shit for? 😂
Good riddance kirk moneybagz cousins
next zach wilson
Yep. I'm getting backlash for calling him a bust but mark my words, he will be.
I don’t trust him.. Vikings fans are yt delusional… they wanted Drake maye , Bo nix, JJ… not Jayden Daniels ( couldn’t get him anyways ) Penix … I’m just convinced fans don’t want a blk QB
@@sharonreel8678 Time will tell....but stupid people make predictions that are total nonsense at this point in time.
Keeping sleeping on the Vikings 😂😂 yall gonna be woke tf up this season just watch
Sorry but the Vikings aren't the Jets...
Why does PFT think McConnell is such a great QB coach? I didn't see that last year.
Absolutely. Everyone thinks KOC is a quarterback whisperer with zero evidence. Mullens, Dobbs, and Hall didn't exactly light it up after Cousins got injured.
@richarddean3154 He did a damn good job against the Falcons with a guy that was on the team for 3 days and didn't know the playbook. Also, Mullens looked really good, except that he thought that he could make every throw. And Hall was a rookie who needs more time. None of those guys are starting caliber. Good coaching can only take you so far. But, if you're raw, lack talent, or you're not a good scheme fit, then you're going to struggle.
@@shawnjohnson9763 Sure - Dobbs and Mullens each looked great until Dobbs threw 4 interceptions to the Bears and Mullens threw 4 interceptions to the Lions. Dobbs ended up with FIVE interceptions AND THREE lost fumbles in only 4 games, Mullens had EIGHT interceptions in only 3 games - image what they would have had in a full season. Goodness, Hall had no rushing or passing touchdowns in 2 games but he sure had 3 turnovers. If KOC is such a quarterback genius, why do his 3 quarterbacks go 1-6 in the last 7 games and have a total of 19 turnovers? Some genius.
@richarddean3154 Like I said, Dobbs isn't a scheme fit, Mullens is a gunslinger, and Hall is raw. Plus, the defense collapsed down the stretch. Wins and losses alone don't tell the whole story. Given the way that things went, O'Connell did a really good job last year. Adding young talent and getting guys back from injury will make a big difference this year.
@@shawnjohnson9763 Totally - unless McCarthy doesn't fit the scheme or is a gunslinger or a raw talent. Then, no amount of coaching genius will save the team. Or if the defense collapses down the stretch. I got it.
I can’t wait for McCarthy to bust and then florio is back to his old hopeless self.
your life must be miserable.
the QB is supported the QB is supported. The League doesn't play football no more They support the QB.
Sorry Phil I like ya but I had to say it. NFL is so easy for QB and WR now.
Bust.
Keeping sleeping on the Vikings 😂😂 yall gonna be woke tf up this season just watch
Mike the Minnesota Meat Rider
Well he is a Vikings fan lol
He’s a Vikings fan what u expect
he’s typically a minnesota hater. so it’s good to see him actually saying nice things
Tell me your slow with telling me 💀
I see you ate a lot of jello today lmao. Quince your thirst with some haterade lmaooooo
Here is Florio:
“Falcons suck”
“Minnesota is incredible”
Florio still bitter Falcons knocked Vikings out of playoffs in 1998.
Not just the playoffs, the NFCCG! Yes for sure '98 hurt something fierce. But what was way worse was 2010 in New Orleans, Bounty Gate where the Saints D. Coordinator paid bounties to injure Favre. The League did absolutely NOTHING during the game as they had to have the Aints go to the SB because of Katriina.
You sound salty. He didn’t say anything of that nature. 😂