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- Christians like to create alternatives for Halloween. Why though?
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I love it when Christians call Halloween “pagan” when about 80% of Christmas traditions are pagan.
Don’t get me started on this part…these idiots have ignorance that knows no bounds.
Oh, they don't like Christmas either.
That’s what I was saying when he showed the dude claiming that!
@@TwoBears3 They like Christmas, but are triggered by the word "Holiday"
Halloween has nothing to do with paganism. Well, the type of paganism I know at any rate, with the tree of life and nature spirits. We have a day of the dead on November 2, but it's nothing like Halloween. It's a lot more similar to all saints day.
It must be so exhausting being Christian and having to overthink everything about the most benign things.
thats what happens when your life is governed by a silent invisible super king that nobody has seen or talked to
Sounds like Autism....but christions dont think....those that do...use faulty knowledge.
These run of the mill Christians ain't got nothing on the Jehovah Witnesses, they Terrified of everything and everyone
@@jacobhigginbotham4557 Nope, another false assumption. I have a very nice life, indeed, TYVM. My invisible friend is better than your invisible friend.
It is, kinda why I left the religion lol
Christian parents: No! You can't celebrate halloween because it involves demons!
Also them: Traumatize their kids with graphic descriptions of demons and apocalypse
Remmember kids, you are worthless and the only good thing that you are going to do is be the slave of GOD, you better be grateful for the oportunity
Or, vote for the “good” demons, they’re called republicans, they make our lives hell but allow us to live, ….just not without loyalty to their god, trump.
okay, then dont buy demonic costumes... now what? dont worry kids now this is not real... there just gave a bolognie sandwich with extra mayonaise.
Good point.
@jgar6643 that's just a demon in a bologna sandwich
Dude… the Satanic panic was so awful when I was growing up, and I lived in a very small town. I was a very nerdy kid, video games, D&D, magic the gathering, I was into all that. Then every so often in school, I’d get sent to the principals office and interrogated/questioned about my hobbies and if it made me want to practice satanic rituals and kill people. Ugh, terrible memories. Luckily I had cool parents that were just like “whatever”
Belief can make people want to kill, but not exactly the same kind that a person like you would practice as a hobby (crusades , nationalism, jihad in a few modern cases,)
When I was a kid, I catfished a local satanic panic mom on msn messenger as “Satan himself”
Good times
My parents used to just drop us kids (even as like a seven year old) off at church every Sunday and we had to go by ourselves. I guess we were just tiny little sinners 😈 we kept our donation money and bought donuts on our walk home, by ourselves.
@@youtubename7819
"HOWS THE SQUASHES, BECKY?"
"Get thee out of MY SQUASHES, SATAN!!!"
"NU."
[Screaming intensifies]
@@agiraffe3673based.
I lived thru the Satanic Panic. All it ended up being was a list of albums to get and movies to watch all in one place.
My mom was terrified that I'd play D&D and lectured me at length on the evils thereof. But joke's on you, Mom, you gotta have friends to play D&D so I wouldn't have been doing it anyway 🙄
I think I cracked a rib.
We are living through it again now. They all believe that anything trans or gay is satanic, no difference except the target.
All the people mostly teacher that went to jail and that all you think happen. lol
it's not easy becoming a satanist, i gave up almost right away, i mean i can't grow a beard to save my life.
John MacArthur saying "slavery was good, just misunderstood" scares me far more than anything on Halloween ever could.
Trump worshippers are scarier than Halloween
Unbelievable. Massive denial. Massive lack of respect for others.
My jaw was on the ground. The disgusting things he said were even more jarring because his delivery was so casual. I feel sick to my stomach.
Utterly disgusting
Slavery is good, but costumes and candy is bad because Satan worship!
I think a "choose your own adventure book" is my new favorite descriptor of the Bible😂
'make-believe whatever you like!
The book will back up anything you'd like to think!'
Halloween hate is my trigger. Everything connected to Samhain has to do with protecting oneself against evil, not embracing it.
But it feels so right being bad!😁
Lol😂
Well, Jesus and G-OH-D are supposed to be the ONLY protection against evil to these people. Whether for attention or for warding off evil, they don't allow competition.
Absolutely. I think that at least some of think because the holiday is often dark themed & is taking place during of the year it must mean that it's celebrating the darkness when that couldn't be further from the truth
@@claratalbot7613 Some people would rather run away and ignore problems than face them. The video itself talks about that being some of the motivation.
Jesusween sounds weirdly inappropriate ?? Why would they use the worst part of “Halloween”?
Ah yes because HalloJesus is so much better 😅
@@exchelzor5264 I mean let’s be clear, they’re both bad 🤣
2 syllables? Still, you're right. Some portmanteaus should never see the light of day.
I agree.
@@exchelzor5264When they were workshopping names and someone called out "HalloJesus?!" someone objected because "Jesus has to come first! Anything else is sacrilege"
Jesusween sounds a lot scarier than Halloween.
AGREED🤣🤣🤣
Maybe dress up as a zombie Jesus? That sounds. more "realistic" , lol
@@kevinkoch-jj1uj he is dead after all.
It sounds like Jesus' "ween"... I feel sexually harassed 😬
What’s so scary about Jesus’ ween? It’s a holy ween and you should be grateful that Jesus wants to come inside you… wait a sec…
What you said about the Christian mindset towards Halloween effecting kids is totally true. As a child I was afraid of everything. I would lay awake at night, unable to sleep, worrying that demons and witches were coming to kill me. I would start panicking and cry whenever I accidentally thought about death or sex or even just accidentally thought of a swear word, because I was convinced I would go to hell. I thought that every time I had the urge to sin, the devil himself was personally hovering being me, egging me on. Now that I’ve moved on and am deconstructing my faith, I love Halloween, horror movies, and all things scary. I find great joy and fun in getting scared, and Halloween is a great time for my mental health.
The Christian mindset had a very counterproductive effect on my mind as a kid. Rather than fuss and fear about swear words or whatever, I fantasized about being Satan. He seemed to have all the power over these people, moreso by far than the god they only bothered about for a few hours every Sunday...I wanted that. Anyway, you should watch The Exorcist, skip The Exorcist 2, and watch The Exorcist 3.
Oh my. What a terrifying childhood. I wish you well in your new healthy journey. I’m lucky that my parents were christians in name only. Not very religious.
I can't get over the time when I realized that my pastor who talked about his crazy Satanic neighbors who went all out on Halloween, and my Wiccan friend who was talking about her weird Christian neighbors who prayed in the basement on Halloween were talking about each other.
"We aren't celebrating a holiday whose roots are founded in paganism."
*starts sweating in Christmas*
Don't forget Easter lol
Also almost all Christian holidays.
And birthdays, don’t forget them
Actually, some Christians don't celebrate Christmas or any holidays for that reason
Christ's Mass is a pagan holiday you say?
How so?
D&D teaches spells? Holy moly I wish that were true, imagine casting Goodberry... you could basically end world hunger.
Yeah, I've never seen kids tossing around magic missiles and that's a low level spell so I'm calling bs.
@@keithmartin9816when I was in retail, people better be glad I couldn’t cast Magic Missile. No survivors for those rude to retail workers.
My life would be so easy! Also more fire!
Didn’t you know? If you play 5,000 hours of DnD you become a 17th level spellcaster. You even get to choose.
@@keithmartin9816Those kids were just scrubs and basic fighters. I’ll have you know I can cast level 5 spells!
My mom wouldn’t let me watch Nightmare before Christmas as a kid but she did show me Passion of the Christ
That's fucked up 😮
I have never heard of that movie but the name just makes me worry
That's wild. 😮
@@nuclearwinter5748 it's an extremely gory and violent recreation of Jesus being arrested, condemned, and marched up to his execution, and then dying on the cross. I would never show a child that.
I love how they end up at “playing pretend is bad” lol. Like that’s insane.
The thing is if they play pretend about one thing the children start to grow up use critical thinking and question their God
It's the same way Christians hate santa because it makes kids question God's existence. Santa at least can be physically seem in mall for while, brings cool presents and is fun while Christianity is boring dull and God never does anything that proves his existant and there is nothing fun about life as a believer. The only way to keep children believing or even interested in religion is to cut them off from anything fun in the world, discouraging any thinking or logical thinking
“Jesusween” sounds exactly like something the Flanders kids would come up with.
I can picture that! 😂
😂😂😂
Adults taking halloween more seriously than literal children will never not be hilarious. We're dealing with people with actual baby brains
They take the scripture asking to be as a child literally smh.
@@mekannatarry1929 Makes sense. Children have difficulty discriminating fantasy and real.
Seriously. You pick a costume. You have fun. Candy is either given or collected
@@Hollyberrystreats Ahhhhh, getting to the true heart of the matter: "Are kids having fun? BAAAAAAD!!!"
Christianity encourages lifelong immaturity. They live to obey, be protected by, and be afraid of the daddy figure.
“Ghosts are demons”
The Holy Ghost:
😮 I honestly never thought of that lmao
What's funny is Halloween is so much kinder and tamer than it used to be! 150 years ago Halloween night was basically like the kid's version of The Purge. Haha. But really. Kids just went around pulling veggies out of gardens and making messes and setting stuff on fire while the parents partied.
Okay, hear me out: we make Halloween like this again until the evangelical fundies get pushed past their limit, then we make a deal with them that the rest of us will go back to normal Halloween, as long as they shut up about it forever.
I think we need to go back to that. Sounds amazing!
@@splaarspoken like someone whos never been hit with a cabbage someone threw. Im cool off that.
Yes let's do it
My friend wasn't allowed to watch He Man as a kid cause it was demonic. Later, as Adults we watched it and he literally said "That's it? That's what my parents were afraid of?"
Same with me, but it was Gargoyles. My grandmother hated the way the main cast looked said they looked demonic.
I later watched the whole series and thought "Wait... they were the protectors! They are supposed to be Intimidating!"
@@tym105nevermind the fact that actual gargoyle statues are used to decorate cathedrals.
Yeah, He Man is pretty tame, he can't even swing his sword, Politically Correctness was big in the 80s.
@@DioBrando-qr6ye uh. What are you writing 😂 is it politically correct to say anything is Satan?
My religious parents didn't let me watch Telletubbies.
No religious reason, they just thought it was annoying.
i'm so obsessed with christians who are like "halloween is a pagan holiday!! have a harvest party instead!!!" cuz *A.* they totally definitely still celebrate other holidays like Christmas which are VERY MUCH PAGAN, and *B.* a party/festival ringing in the autumn harvest sounds WAY more pagan than modern halloween traditions.
Not to mention the ones who sell essential oils, a class of substances I personally first heard about as a teenage Wiccan because of their use as spell ingredients, candle anointing, etc.
And they still believe the lore of these pagan holidays like the thinning of the veil between worlds 😅
Well... their whole religion is based on older pagan religions/beliefs. That's just how culture works. :D
Easter eggs weren’t invented by Jesus… ahhhhh, PAGANS!!!
christians be like: "respect our beliefs"
and then proceed to hate on pagans for no reason
Your observation that religion teaches children to fear is both spot on and utterly depressing, because I spent most of my childhood utterly terrified at night. Terrified that Satan would appear. Terrified that demons would get me. Terrified that I would die and meet Satan and be tortured forever.
My children do not know religion and, amazingly, they generally don’t know fear.
They are not in any way afraid of the dark. They think “scary” Halloween costumes are fun. They aren’t scared of movies.
And they are only toddlers.
Damn it-religion is such a damaging poison for everyone, especially the kids!
I grieve for a lost childhood.
Making healthy kids. Me too!
The original tradition was not about communicating with spirits or celebrating evil, it was their way of protecting themselves from the evils they believed were around them. It's actually kind of wholesome...
Yep and seeing ghosts or people ascend to heaven like whipsy smoke...all while knowing that your deceased loved ones were happy and safe...
what? what are you even talking about?@@dannylo5875
yeah wasn't the whole idea to protect yourself due to the thinness of the veils between the dead/demonic and the living? It was like a way to try and scare away evil spirits with scary costumes or the jack o' lanterns supposedly capturing spirits or leading them away.
Imagine having the most powerful god on your side and still being afraid of children playing spooky dress up.
No one is on their side.
@@MetaKnight964LMAO
Also that the god who made sex so amazing that it's bad to have it for fun.
One of the things I find hilarious about Christians thinking Halloween is Satanic is that one of the reasons it was created in the first place was to ward off evil spirits, so if anything, it's actually doing them a favor 😂
Going to the trouble of having fact-based beliefs is not about to slow them down. Things like this is all about back-formation and control.
@@inyobillyup
Technically, it marks the middle between the first day of Autumn and the first day of Winter, so many cultures who had at least basic astronomy would celebrate that day. In European Paganism, reconstructionists call this holiday Samhain as a marking for a day for the dead, and this what Christians turned in to All Hallow's Eve as a way of honouring hallowed people (saints, mostly) and also for thr dead in general.
@@shadowcween7890 The modern practice marks the first 2 days of November as being dedicated to the saints and the souls (ie the departed) respectively. In Germany it's a custom to light candles in red jars called 'eternal lights' on the graves of family members at this point, so a little of the 'honour your ancestors' original meaning remains.
I’m not saying Christian’s are “evil spirits” but they seem to be the only group that is warded off by All Hollows Eve.. 🤔
"You're not Batman, You're not Superman... And there is invisible dude with magic powers in the sky, that is perfect in every way but condemns his imperfect creation for not being imperfect"
These parents have a funny way of saying “we don’t let our kids socialize like they should and I’ll be clutching my pearls when they eventually cut contact.” You stifle your kids regularly you’re in a world of loneliness.
This right here is part of the reason I do not follow age limits for trick or treaters. Anyone that shows up at my place is getting candy. Teenagers, young adults, idc. They may be trying to capture the fun they missed when they were younger and I want to help them catch it.
That's so sweet😢
100% - if you’re in a costume, you get candy. Even if it’s just a token effort. If you’re escorting a group, you get candy. If you show up in a second costume you get more candy. If you show up at the end of the night in the same costume and ask nicely, you get more candy.
I am in reality a buff six-pac-ab thin person dressed as an obese person this Halloween.
@@theultimatereductionist7592. And I am a Lovecraftian eldritch horror wearing a human flesh suit - so I get candy too!
No one trick-or-treats where I am, but if they did, I'd have no problem giving candy to anyone who showed up in costume. Halloween is my favorite holiday, and I'm very, very sad that I allowed myself to become lazy about it over time and finally end up do nothing year after year. I used to spend so much (enjoyable) time thinking up costumes and making them -- not quite as involved as today's cosplayers, but pretty darn close. I miss it, and would happily reward anyone who has not allowed their love to die.
Man if someone ever gave me a BIBLE on Halloween my mom would have been SO mad. She was pretty serious about not raising us religious and letting us pick our views, so having someone trying to sneak their beliefs to us behind her back would have not been received well.
Absolutely! This is exactly how I would feel if someone snuck it into my son's trick or treat bag...
Man the church I went to gave out them psalms proverbs and the main gospel tiny bibles for their "Halloween" and I still didn't like it. Why on earth do christains themselves need that many cheap bibles non the less random atheist kids
Growing up I routinely got Chick Tracts in my candy bag. I'm not sure which neighbor gave it to me.
The people who gave these things out were immediately identified as the freaks and weirdos of the neighborhood, and they were always thought of that way from them on.
have you read ezekiel 23 ? this book ought to have a parental guidance sticker on the front - not that christians make for good parents.
Story time.
My very last year trick or treating, there was one ancient lady that gave us religious pamphlets and said Jesus lived us and basically trapped us on her porch to preach at us for a solid 10-15 minutes 🙃
The best part is that we were dressed as the Deadly Sins, and she didn't even know xD
I used to tell friends at sleepovers that when my cat was scratching at my door, it was actually my dead dad. Grief is weird.
I love how much Jesusween screams : "I think I'm a good Christian even though I'm so completely ignorant to the history of my own faith that I embarrass myself with it."
100% this!
Have you heard the good word of Jesus's Ween?
@@ericvulgate7091 I hear it tastes like bread and fish
@@beans3977sounds like Jesus should clean his ween better lmao
@@raccoon8743 Unfortunately the lord and savior does not know what sanitation is
I love how the guy around 15:00 is explaining that Halloween started as a way for people to trick, avoid, and ward off demons, and then is like, "Christians shouldn't be doing this!!" Make up your damn minds about whether you want to avoid demons!
Christians see to be unable to tell the difference between "I'm not afraid of this" and "I'm honoring this". To them, it seems to be one and the same.
Them “you should be praying to god to avoid them not trying to avoid them yourself. You’re supposed to be helpless”
"Logic" and "consistency"?, ahem, good luck with that crew.
Same logic behind gargoyles. It's an old way of warding off evil spirits. Look like you're more scary than they are.
Dark Satan rules!!!
"An ancient tribe called the Celtic people"
This man boutta be real disappointed when he finds out about the Irish
People like Nate & Sutton, Vlad Savchuk, Girl Defined, and Isaiah Saldivar are going to freak out when they find out about "Día de los Muertos" in Mexico. We celebrate this holiday on November 1 and 2, and on October 27, people are now making altars for their pets, and we eat pan de muerto with the following drinks: coffee, champurrado (atole drink made from crushed corn dough, dark chocolate, water with cinnamon, and is boiled until it has a thick consistency) or the Mexican version of pumpkin spice, "Café de olla" which is made with cinnamon and piloncillo (panela); sometimes cloves are added, dark chocolate, star anise and if you want a kick, you can add Tabasco pepper and orange or lemon zest.
I have completely inappropriately misappropriated this amazing beautiful holiday. I’m sorry and totally not sorry. I do a Hekate super then Samhain then Dia de los Muertos. It’s a whole beautiful thing.
As an actual Celtic pagan who practices witchcraft, these people are so weird. I wish my Samhain celebration was as cool as they think it is.
Christian LARP is wild lol
Huh, fascinating, never though people still believed in those religions( or non religions cause I don't believe they are real). Sounds interesting even if it's not as cool as demon summoning
Ooooooo, now that’s REALLY cool! :D
Wiccans are weird too
Nothing good ever comes from practicing witchcraft, not to mention occult freaks are the some of the weirdest people out there.
I'm 40. I was a kid in the 80's. My parents were big time christians, especially my Dad, who was also a dentist. At the time Halloween was a disappointment. Not only did we not get to dress up, we weren't allowed to go trick or treating and on top of that we handed out toothpaste and bible verses. Even at a young age I remember being incredibly embarrassing by this. Years later my parents get a divorce and my Mom let's us celebrate Halloween. I dressed up as Death. It was awesome. I still got the mask too.
Wow, toothpaste AND Bible verses? That’s some next level torture for your kids! I thought it was bad enough that my mom made me stick “one way” stickers on the candy bars we handed out!
I get it, if you don't want to hand out candy- one year, my family got this giant bag of rings that looked like a spider was sitting on your hand- we gave out bags with those and some stickers, ours was a very popular house. We went to some party supply store, bought a pile of this stuff in bulk. My mother didn't want a pile of candy around the house, my father kind of had a food addiction so didn't need all that. But sure, give out fun stuff that's an alternative, it's really everywhere and was probably cheaper than candy.
@@DawnDavidson One way? Did she think kids were sticking candy up their butts instead of just eating them or something?
@@starscreamthecruel8026 🤷
My dad was an evangelical preacher, I am so surprised we were allowed to go trick-or-treating since we were not allowed to do much of anything else! I am sorry that it was like that for you!
We had to avoid halloween in every way. As the weird kid who didn't know any pop culture and couldn't ever do anything that wasn't church based, it really helped my AuADHD socializing when I was forced to sit on the stairs alone during french class (or any other class) if they had something as simple as a halloween themed vocabulary crossword.
Stupid and mean parents. 😒
I can't, I'm just speechless. And yet churches are complaining about dwindling attendance.
I wasn't allowed to do Halloween and my mom also flip-flopped on it. I remember one year being in my room crying as I watched my friends go outside and have fun and we were sent to bed early. I remember being in Kindergarten and being like "I don't get to celebrate Halloween" when the teacher asked what everyone dressed up as. I remember going to one of those church "harvest fests" one year. It never made sense to me because I didn't want to be spooky. I just wanted to go have fun and eat candy.
Nowadays, I hand out candy to everyone who comes to my door. Even if they are an adult! Because you never know who was deprived of wholesome fun when they were young.
same, not religious, or grown up religious, but I'm german and halloween was just not celebrated when I was a kid. We got the cool halloween specials on tv though. for the last 10 years halloween becomes slowly a thing in germany and I always prepare some candy in case a small group of trick or treaters shows up. Even if its just one small group. Always warms my heart to give the kids the opportunity I never got.
i fully support the idea of letting adults trick or treat. i want that . id much rather have adults trick or treating at my door than the little kids that come every year lol
@@clown134yea f-k them kids
I remember encountering this idiocy for the first time: I was shocked that grown adults actually thought ghosts, demons, spirits, etc. were _real_
the people who think it’s real aren’t bad. It’s the people who build their lives around such belief that are
@@gothboschincarnate3931Bro post your experiences
I've seen and experienced some strange things. Everybody athiest gangsta until an unattended lunch tray gets flung across the room.
@@gothboschincarnate3931can you give us a step-by-step process on how to experience these things so we can try it out ourselves?
I dont think I ever saw something fly across the room. But i had a cat run across the bed...twice. I managed to cross it over.@@gamera5160
We’re “redeeming” Halloween by having a party on Halloween where we dress up, have snacks and hand out things to kids - um, you’re having a Halloween party.
As a woman who was Raised Christian, My mom believed that Halloween is the Devil's Birthday but however my Grandmother, a Religious woman, think that people should enjoy themselves and celebrate Halloween however they want. Im happy that my Nana and Grandmother introduced me the Beauty of Halloween, to this day, I still love Halloween. ❤️ 🎃💀👻
Mark Driscoll's existence never fails to ruin my day.
*thought I was only going to see him for a little bit . . . sees more of him* yeah, I can see why you would say that.
Oh Mark D!*khole always a buzzkill
Thanks for the content warning. I'm making my coffee first.
I wanna like this comment but as of typing this it has 69 likes and I don't wanna ruin it lmao
@@sentientplant9658 At the time I'm replying it's got 105 likes
I had an ex whose family was hard-core Catholic to a point where they would avoid anything Halloween that during the actual holiday they'd stay home with the doors & windows locked, lights turned off, pretending no one was home. Bunch of controlling freaks. That was just the icing of their shitty parenting.
Worst parents I've met in my life so far.
My mom made me sit out of class read alongs in 3rd grade because we were reading a book that mentioned Halloween in it. Not even about Halloween, just mentioned. Wild behavior from adults.
I'm sorry my brother wasn't around for those parents. He was a little pudgy then, and during Halloween, he'd basically turn into Eric Cartman, so locking the doors, shutting off the lights, and barricading the windows didn't work on him. All that did was leave him standing there at 3 AM just banging away on the door while screaming, "I SAID TRICK-OR-TREAT GODDAMMIT!!!"
Did they go to church for All Saints Day?
My ex's family are hardcore yec evangelicals and when we got to the Halloween discussions, I found out what Bibleman was bc he apparently dressed up as Bibleman for a year or two lol. At least they didn't shut themselves in, but hardcore christian Halloween is just weird in any flavor lol
@@DavidRichardson153based kid
These same people go all in for Christmas forgetting that at least 75% of it is a pagan holiday.
I still suffer from my Christian parents telling me that demons and ghosts were real. In middle and high school, I spent several hours bolt awake every night because I was too afraid of evil things in the dark to sleep. I would just sit there listening to every little sound for evidence of something coming to hurt me. I finally trained myself to enjoy horror movies, but they still give me nightmares and significant anxiety. Now I intentionally celebrate Halloween as a symbol of escaping their oppressive religion. 😅
Those newscasters repeatedly saying “Jesusween” without breaking is impressive
Jesus's Ween came for your sins!
Jesus weeeeeen. 😏
Growing up as non-denominational Christians, my siblings and I weren't allowed to celebrate Halloween, so my older sister found an alternative: International Talk Like A Pirate day, celebrated annually on September 19th. We'd do a scavenger hunt for a "pirate treasure" load of chocolate gold coins and ring pops. Gotta give her props for making some happy memories in an otherwise messed up upbringing.
That sounds like a fun thing to do in addition to, rather than instead of, Trick-or-treat.
Inb4 pirates are a sin because stealing
W sister
I am sorry, I was the daughter of a preacher in a non-denominational church, I know what you mean when you say messed up upbringing!
So they were cool with imitating real life murderers, rapists, and pillagers but not dressing up as fictional beings that have nothing to do with the pagan holiday itself? Thats some funny shit lol
I remember in K5 my school was doing a costume dance where we held hands and went around the playground listening to Halloween songs. My mom told the school she didn't want me to participate and I remember right before the class went out, my teacher rolling her eyes and giving me bunny ears and a tail clip. I was so happy and my mom never found out 😊
This further highlights how removed from the Bible, modern Christianity is. I always heard growing up how many times the Bible says "fear not", but pastors saying, "here's a list of all the stuff you need to fear."
I wanted to be a ghost. A sheet ghost. I wanted to take a sheet, cut two holes in it, and walk around going "boo". I was 5 when I started asking if I could be a ghost for halloween. That was a hard no from the parental unit. They threw in a witch as a no-go costume too but I didn't want to be a witch and was kind of confused they brought it up when I clearly said I wanted to be a ghost.
And that's the point.
Kids just want to dress up and play pretend. They want to play make believe. They want to try on a pov for a night and see what adventures they can have. And some kids just want to cut holes in a sheet and run around saying "boooo" all night. That's it. No demon worshipping or conjuring. Just a damn sheet.
The go-to costume in my relatively poorer town in the 70s was the "not politically-correct" hobo costume. Wear a bunch of your dad's old clothes, put dirt on your face/black makeup from eyeliner or something and...bingo! It was a candy grab at that point. Yes, DIY costumes (which they were in my childhood) were the best. And, yeah, not one person, ever got a little weird on the devil worship side of things and this was the 70s when then whole Exorcist thing was big.
Well, the reason why they don't want the children to play make belief is because they already have a belief that they don't want the child to deviate from, as deviation from the way of god is the way to he'll, that s why fantasy and fun are big nos for religious people. And also because nowadays you shouldn't let children alone
For what it's worth, if there's any wind at all, it's an impossible costume to walk in 😅 I tried it last night and couldn't see at all 😂
One of my students can’t come to our school’s Halloween party this week because she is Christian (and she does believe, since she brings up God a LOT) and her mom won’t let her.
She just sounded so sad when she told the class that.
My best friend in elementary school had a flighty single mom who converted to Jehovah's Witnesses for a boyfriend. My friend explained the beliefs and showed me their kids Bible. My heart broke for her when she described not celebrating any holidays or her birthday ever again. Her Mom didn't stay in the cult, but for the years she was my family gave my friend covert celebrations and gifts (she spent lots of time with my family). My mom hated that my friend's mom always put herself (and her boyfriends) before her children. Children deserve happy childhood memories and she was extremely grateful that my family provided that to her. ❤
@@annjepsen1621religion messes with kids and is one of the reasons I left it. I was raised as a JW and for the longest time we didn’t celebrate anything and I couldn’t have friends unless they were also a jw or at least a Christian. And to this day it still feels weird to hear or say things like merry Christmas, happy bday and etc. I feel bad for the kids who have beliefs forced on them.
Christians deciding that they need a "Christian" version of Halloween is great. Halloween, as Trevor mentioned, is already a Christianization of a pagan traidition, but he didn't mention what that day is. The original term, still used in Irish and Scottish Gaelic, is Samhain.
This video was a halloween treat with zero calories yet just as sweet
Carving a pumpkin: Totally fine with God
Wearing a pumpkin on your head: Unforgivably demonic
Why hath pumpkin forsaken me?
I spit my coffee out on my desk. Thank you. :)
I was born in 1973 and we had Halloween parties in our church school, even had a Halloween party at AWANA once, with spooky stories and fun. People did not freak out about it until later. I'm glad I was able to participate in all the fun stuff before the panic set in.
I was born in the late 80s and it was the same for me. Not all churches subscribed to the panic. I'm glad that the church I was brought up in didn't have a stick up its butt, because it made it easier to leave it when I realized it was nonsense.
I mean also like, a lot of places around the WORLD just have fall time celebrations that aren't even rooted in paganism or anything, just literally in the olden days you butchered animals and had some parties before the winter - Christians all across Europe did it it was Micklemas or all saints Day or whatever. It makes sense to celebrate the harvest time???? Which consequently would merge with other traditions anyway. I think modern Christianity is really far removed from reality that they don't even realize why they're doing what they're doing
Me also. Our pastor even dressed up as Leatherface and chased us around in the basement haunted house. Wonder why christians became so scared of life.
Same. I was born in 70. The satanic panic didn't hit our congregation until around '84-'85, and even then it was mostly around us teenagers: no heavy metal music, no d'n'd, but the Halloween parties still persisted.
Are people going more insane? Is that a sign of the end times?
You know, I have a hard time thinking of a better way to get people to try D&D than telling them it will teach them actual magic.
Of course, the publishers can't do it, because that would be false marketing - but it's nice of that man to help spread the hobby!
“Special brownies”? 😂. These people are a mess.
Look at them trying to think. It’s adorable.
My favorite part is when Christians miss/leave out the fact that Halloween was also a Christian holiday too. And that our modern understanding of the holiday is just a mixture of both pagan and Christian traditions.
No one is more ignorant about Christianity than Christians themselves.
I hate that these people feel uncomfortable with fear because their religion is fear based so they assume anything scary is also religious or spiritual. It's projecting big time
I grew up with parents who flip flopped about Halloween, so I associate Halloween with my parents fighting over whether to celebrate it. Because of this, I let go of any desire to celebrate it. As an adult, I still feel an apathy toward Halloween because I wasn't really given space to have my own feelings on it. Even now on occasions where I am allowed and encouraged to dress up, such as my current workplace, I find it hard to have the motivation.
Sidenote: I'm so happy that you included clips from Community. I was too young and Christian to watch it when it first aired, but it's my favourite show now.
I love the casual reinforcing of gender roles in the idea that you should dress your daughters as princesses and give your sons swords. Literally medieval.
I died at "some can even dress as mr monopoly". Ah, yes, the embodiment of greed is a great Christian costume.
Imagine other culture's looks on Easter, or Passover, where a tortured man rises from the dead and a lamb is sacrificed to protect from being murdered and all of it somehow revolves around a man in a bunny costume that lays eggs apparently..... now that's creepy
And it’s explicitly a male bunny so when you think about it, those eggs are coming out his ass.
I was raised in the church in the deep South of the US. Halloween was always frowned upon, but we live in the foot hills of Appalachia. People believed in the woowoo mountain cures, but Halloween was a step too far. It was always so weird to me. As an adult, I left the church, and Halloween is my favorite holiday. I celebrate Samhain and became Wiccan. 😂
I love how some say you shouldn't celebrate it at all because of it's pagan origins, when most, if not all, Christian holidays including Christmas and Easter were Christianised versions of pagan holidays
Just to make a small note here, Wiccans celebrate Halloween as a *secular* holiday - something fun to do with the kids, or for the kids, and going to a party dressed in a costume and getting drunk is not out of the question. Wiccans are normal people who like having normal fun with their friends.
Then they celebrate *Samhain* as a religious holiday, in a very different way involving rituals, magick, and the deities they worship if they worship deities at all (not all Wiccans do). The two are not connected. Matter of fact, Samhain is the Wiccan New Year's Eve, and I as far as I know dressing up is not part of a Wiccan Samhain - it's not about scaring off the spirits for them. They invite the spirits of their ancestors into their homes and offer them food, contemplate the past year and prepare for the new one.
Isn't Mabon the Wiccan's new year?
Isn't Mabon the Wiccan's new year?
@@shadowcween7890 Mabons the name given to the autumn equinox in the 1960s to sell calenders to the followers of Alex Gardners rebranded Christianity , sorry i meant to say Wicca .
@@shadowcween7890 ... I was going to leave this the way it was, but then the other person decided to be rude.
What I know about Wicca, I got from websites written by Wiccans which I found through Google, and CZcams videos made by Wiccans. You have the same resources I do. If you won't believe my word the first time I tell you, it feels useless to me to repeat it - you can use those resources to find the answer yourself.
I'm not trying to be harsh or rude here, but I'm not sure what you were expecting. The only answer I could really give to your question is a repeat of what I said already: No, Samhain is the Wiccans' new year. I could explain to you what Mabon is, but that doesn't change the fact that the answer is what I already said, and self-sufficiency is highly appreciated in the world we live in. If you're interested or you want to know more, the knowledge is out there and easy to find, and you're going to be able to learn a lot more from an actual Wiccan's website than from the amount of text I, a non-Ziccan to begin with, can acceptibly write in a CZcams comment.
Do Wiccan wear robes or special attire for the event? Most do, so yes, they wear "costumes".
"Imagine making decisions based on if you're afraid you upset a god."
That's literally the reason given for the new "Don't Say Mormon" policy.
Don't say Mormons say morons, because that's what they are.
If you believe God is real yeah you would make sure your making the right decisions, examining yourself. That's not stupid
its also an admission that your god is not loving nor tolerant, and that youre merely worshipping out of fear instead of love. you dont love a god you fear, you merely pretend to, until stockholm syndrome sets in at least@@passionneal7777
@passionneal7777 Well, if you're basing this Big Brother deity on a book full of evil commands then you're going to run in to trouble.
@ViTheSmolDolloh it is a thing alright, the current administration is even calling using the word mormon as a victory for the devil, nevermind all the 'I Am Mormon' publicity from a few years ago.
This is the kind of parenting I hate. Just suppressing people for no reason
I was the Lambs Book of Life for our churches Hallelujah party one year as a kid. So to say that I appreciated this one is an understatement. 😂
Wasn't there, but can picture with clarity! I bet you had plenty of flannelgraph Parables too
@@jontarr7444 howdja guess? 😂
Loving Halloween has been such a fun part of being ex Christian. I have no internal conflict about it at all...I just get to be creative. Me and my friends have so much fun with it and always watch a super campy movie. The only thing I have to contend with now is people relentlessly telling me 'in Australia we don't celebrate Halloween..' sssshhhh. Just let people enjoy a holiday embraces everything amazing.
Man, why doesn't Australia celebrate it? Kids there can find so many spooky animals to dress up as!
I was raised Christian and the only kids who didn't celebrate Halloween then were the nutty JWs. Evangelicals have ruined holidays.
America got Japan to celebrate Halloween, and we can get the Aussies, too!
@@jacobhigginbotham4557 not without guilt/fear for a lot of Christians who were raised to think the holiday and its celebrations are evil
Are Christians supposed to say "ass"?@@jacobhigginbotham4557
I went to a Catholic school for ten years. Every year we had a Halloween party. I went as a witch for a few years, I recall seeing zombies and ghosts a few times. I'm glad the only thing my school cared about was that we didn't bring in weapons and that we were covered.
In my Christian school we celebrated Reformation Day, commemorating our split from you guys! 😂
That was the case at my Catholic school too... until one of my friends showed up in a t-shirt and jeans and said he was dressed up as a public school student.
Let's just say the school added quite a few rules after that year.
Mine was the same, at least when I went. They went full crazy now and forbid even a jack-o-lantern.
Mine did too, although they have gone really rightward since I was there 20+ years ago and they now have a priest who does an anti-Halloween sermon every year. I remember getting a lesson one year about Halloween's Catholic roots!
Nowadays you go to a Christian School they push for open carry weapons 😅
This stuff is so wild to me because most of these folks had regular Halloween growing up. Even conservative and charismatic churches were fine with Halloween up into the 90s. It's not the oldest people, in my experience, but a lot of young Boomers and Gen X people who really took off with this Halloween is evil stuff.
On a side note, judgment/hell houses are way more graphic and violent than most regular haunted houses and horror movies.
That shit from the Pan’s Labyrinth is absolutely terrifying omg I deleted that image from my mind and now it’s *BACK* 😭
Gotta love the way they still go after D&D, even though E. Gary Gygax was a practicing Christian…
This actually makes me really sad.
This poor guy being reviled by the people who are, arguably, supposed to love him the most for the crime of making something he clearly loved and held dearly...
It blows my mind how inconsistent religious parents can be. They let me watch Alien when I was 3 and I loved it, but then they pound the purity culture and abstinence into my head. 😵💫
Ooof. Yeah my kid brother loved the Terminator movies. But once my parents became born again we couldn't watch them. There's a sex scene in the first one- not that they told us- and I didn't realize it at all until I was in my later teens, lol. I'm sure my bro figured it out before I did.
@jacobhigginbotham4557 you are aware that you can have random memories from your childhood, right? And that other people can let you know what you did, liked, and watched as a kid? That home videos exist?
Well to be fair there is absolutely no sexual imagery in Alien at all at any point in either that move or any of the other movies. Literally none.
Sounds like my mom, she let us watch all kind of violent and horror films, but dressing up and asking for candy=evil.
That’s funny. The whole life cycle of the xenomorph is based off of rape. That was H R Gigers philosophy.
Omg this episode spoke to my apostate soul, from the parents changing opinions every year to the frank peretti books at the end. Thankyou for this 🥲🙌🏻🖤
The "what are they missing out on???" people are so stupid. Halloween was always my favorite holiday, despite me having intense anxiety and hating all of the intense horror stuff that would be depicted. It was because it was a day where everyone was encouraged to play pretend, where I could run around with my friends all night, and I got rewarded for exploring with candy. It inspired me creatively, and I realized that I could choose to dress up as characters I liked personally, and got me into cosplay. It helped me with my anxiety because I loved the holiday so much and the aesthetics of spooky things that I was able to start watching things that were a bit scary to help acclimate me to it.
"When you learn to laugh and have fun with it you take it's power away." I don't know if anybody could say it better than that! Kudos to you!
side note - im gonna assume it was you who blurred out the faces of kids shown in this video, and if you did thank you! i think its a really great example to set for other youtubers, lets keep kids that havent (and couldnt if they wanted to) consented to being viewed by thousands of people safe :)
Some people will always try to find something wrong with something that is both harmless and enjoyable…
I try every year to use my Necronomicon and Ouija board to summon C'thul'hu... So far, I've successfully avoided having my soul swallowed by a tentacled eldritch god.
I had a friend who wasn't allowed to do any of the school's Halloween fun or go trick or treating. He's an atheist now and is SO much happier.
Good for him! Atheism fucking rocks man!👍🏼
I too read and was terrified by This Present Darkness and Piercing the Darkness, and my teacher who told me that if we were good Christians demons would come and bother us in the night. Laughter is definitely helpful in recovering from that fear, whenever I got scared I would just say very casually "Hey there demons, it's me ya boy" and it helped so much lol. Thanks Buzzfeed Unsolved and Shane specifically haha.
So now, my demons have been protecting me from my toxic parents and we’re at peace with each other.
The internal back and forth parents end up going through in order to try to do what is best for the kids is crazy. The pastors love to guilt the parents.
I grew up like this, no participation allowed... 46 now and Halloween is my favorite holiday, we get crazy with our costumes.
"If you are skipping Halloween because it's 'a pagan holiday', I have some news about Christmas you aren't going to like."
~ Me, on facebook a few minutes ago
That's basically the entire plot of Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas. That hard liner fundamentalists think we shouldn't celebrate it because it has pagan origins, so Kirk Cameron is here to make sure you still spend your capitalist dollars on Christmas shit
😂😂😂
DnD and my personal favorite Magic the Gathering was a massive demonic threat in my childhood. I collected some cards and my mom burned them for being "witchcraft" and "Satanic". She just gave me another reason to leave my religion.
most of the time the demons are explicitly portrayed as evil and bad, the satanic panickers have zero understanding of the source material
The Satanic Panic is such a wild point in history - all it took was board games, loud music, and young people showing just a little bit of imagination to whip religious people into a frenzy lol
I love how hardcore Christians would rather go into isolation in the mountains than see a witch sticker.
It's called insanity. 😆
Remember that AC/DC song: "Highway to Hell"? Man that was a rockin' tune! Good stuff man.
As someone born on Halloween, it gives me no end of joy that my birthday pisses off fundies.
Blessed is the child born on Halloween 🎃🙏
Satan themselves is in the comment section!
I went to a small Christian college in the early 90s. One Halloween some of the students told me they were having a candlelight vigil in opposition to the "evil" holiday. I'd forgotten about their plan and was on duty as a campus security officer that evening, when I saw a mass of people in white robes carrying a wooden cross covered with lit candles down the street. For a moment I thought it was the KKK. This mostly white college was situated in the middle of a mostly black neighborhood, mind you. I can never get that image out of my mind.
I also went to a small Christian college. On Halloween my friends and I would go Christmas caroling. It seemed just as dissociative as being afraid of incurring the wrath of God over wearing face paint when there's so much real wrong in the world.
Probably was tbh, i would've shat my pants if I saw that too.
Did they even realize what they were doing was something people could see as the kkk? How could they not know about that?
@@PokemonRules333if youre really sheltered and white i could imagine you might never have been told about its existence
Not surprising, the kkk was a Christian organisation after all
I like the "naughty mommy holiday" part. That's actually so true. It doesn't matter what the costume is, if a pizza costume is meant for women it will be a "sexy pizza slice costume".
That thing he said about tools versus rules was actually really great!
In parenting my heathen children, we also practice from the foundation that the relationships are primary and no rule no conflict is more important than our relationship so we prioritize our relationship so that we can work through conflict in a way that leaves us still feeling connected and whole. I would not have expected this guy to think it close to this idea.
Last year my daughter was baptized into the Episcopal Church the day before Halloween. She was 6 at the time. That Saturday the 29th the church hosted a Trunk-o-Treat and she wore her Grim Reaper costume. Father Patrick, knowing she was being baptized and also knowing that all the kids were invited to wear costumes looked at me and said, "she is an adorable spector of death, but please don't ask me to baptize the Grim Reaper." I assured him that she had a dress that she would be wearing. I might be an atheist, but I try very hard to be respectful. (Husband is Episcopalian.)
That’s actually kinda adorable and hilarious
@@bolladragon my kid is... unique. She is also the one who outed me as an atheist to the entirety of children's chapel. At that point only a handful of folks (including the priests and the head of the children's ministry) knew.
If I was in that kid's position, I would 100% ask to be baptized as the Grim Reaper.
@@squarescribbles she would have if I would have let her. But I knew her Grammy (my mother-in-law) would see pictures and I didn't want to kill the lady. She is open minded but has a sense of decorum.
He sounds like he has a good sense of humor.
The Girl Defined girls crack me the heck up 😂 they have such “she’s so crazzzzzy! Love her!!!” energy when talking about their not-Halloween Halloween plans
Argh. Their idea of fun is so mundane and performative. I cannot think of anything more horrifying than spending hours with a bunch of these women, carving pumpkins and pretending were having the best fun times.
Bro their idea of fun is like those sad beige crunchy mom's who burn up at any sight of colour in their kids bedrooms. Oh and girl defined definitely would've called me antisemitic and anti-Roma slurs while making fun of me for liking anime in high school, I went to freshman and junior year with these types. More basic than an alkali solution these guys hoowah
I went to high school with girls like these and they were also homophobic and outed me to a teacher who was exactly like them. A white chick who was so basic that she needed her pH balance checked.
I’m very impressed with my extremely devoutly Catholic, conservative cousins who every year throw the biggest Halloween celebrations imaginable. They even make their own haunted house in their yard and it’s both impressive and fun for the entire neighborhood.
I grew up in a conservative Catholic family and I never once heard any Catholic raise an objection to Halloween. Most Catholics don't take demons, spirits and such as literally as fundies do, "The Exorcist" notwithstanding.
Catholics don’t have a problem with Halloween. In fact the holiday is Catholic in origin. Those Catholics who are afraid of Halloween aren’t getting that from Catholicism they’re getting it from evangelicals.
It was great going to a Catholic School in the 60s. Halloween was fully embraced. We would run home at lunch to get into our costumes. There would be a party, parade and costume contest all afternoon. And then trick or treating that night. The icing on the cake was the next day was All Saints Day. It was a holy day, so after going to mass we had the rest of the day off!!!