Slavoj Zizek: "We Are In An Apocalypse" (Part 1)
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- In 2022 it seems like even careful plans quickly turn into disaster: a dream of freedom turning into terror, morality into hypocrisy, excessive wealth into poverty for the majority. So how do we use philosophy to combat the chaos of an upside down world, one gone wrong and turned into its opposite? Slavoj Zizek is here to help.
Slavoj Žižek is a Hegelian philosopher, a Lacanian psychoanalyst, and a Communist. He is International Director at the Birkbeck Institute for Humanities, University of London, UK, Visiting Professor at the New York University, USA, and Senior Researcher at the Department of Philosophy, University of Ljubljana, Slovenia.
Robert Rowland Smith writes about philosophy, psychology and literature. His seven books include Breakfast with Socrates, Death-Drive, The Reality Test and AutoBioPhilosophy. Robert has given talks around the world on his ideas, been a columnist for the Sunday Times Magazine, and contributed regularly to radio. Robert is a Quondam Fellow of All Souls College, Oxford, and a Board Member of both the Institute of Art and Ideas and the Tavistock Institute of Medical Psychology.
See more of Slavoj here: czcams.com/play/PLFIigLLitqDlMcyK7zER5I8s9AgGwSPgj.html
I love that idea of "gathering and drafting and dabbling until it coalesces" approach to writing, over a formal and mechanical approach of "start from the beginning". I feel the same about writing code.
I thought everyone does it like that. I always told myself that Shakespeare or anyone in Rome etc must have been a bloody genius because they didn't have the material or Google docs to do it this way, they probably had to keep it in their mind until it was ready for the paper.
@@theoryforce6971 they definitely spent paper on writing notes and parts down before collating everything.
It’s how I make my artwork.
Thousands of notes and doodles and sound clips.
Then I sit and work my way through the piles curating thematically until coalescence happens. Then it could literally be 1 small doodle as final image.
I’ve always said if I did a show I’d cover the walls with everything and say that’s my painting.
a man after my own liking... I also like to go about composing music, but suck at it... I have cool individual parts, but ... how to connect them to make even the slightes amount of sense? I do not struggle as much when writing words with this, or even the little code i can write, but with music, it is reallz hard for me.
Yep. Start anywhere, go until you have something. Then fully rewrite from the beginning so it hangs together.
A great conversation, and so on.
Sniff sniff
I been having such a depressive episode, man thank god some zizek dropped
I'm happy they chose the same interviewer as the last time, it's probably one of a few people who are up to the task
maybe he is on task, but it's totally disturbing and implausible that he did not once prononce his name correctly. Why not?
@@mmiilleennkkoo Disturbing? Implausible? First of all you used implausible in an interesting way.... I guess to some people the matter of decorum is more important than substance. Classical reasoning. We are speaking philosophically not traditionally. I'm surprised to find your comment here as it is inherently close-minded by virtue and sensationalist in delivery. I bet zizek understands and doesn't care less if his name is mispronounced. Which begs the question. Why do you? Because of some pre-determined bias that you have with people mispronouncing your name? Where is the value in applying that to a philosophical discussion on society? There isn't any.
@@pkernoob786 Sigmund Merry Freud, you did not answer my question!
@@mmiilleennkkoo your question is irrelevant.
@@EnglishwithAuris your opinion is less irrelevant. Learn the names properly euro centrist PoS!!
wow great host!! thanks for this!
Fantastic dialogue.
Zizek isn't famous for real-world earthy advice, but writing absolutely is stressful, even traumatic (ask someone with writer's block). It's a great idea to approach it non-linearly and as the hobbling together of notes.
I agree! Marina Hyde (The Guardian) also starts with jotting down the most acute observances and whatever comes into her mind. After two hours she has enough material on the page which she can cut-and-paste around and shape into a finished column. This takes away the dread of having to deliver a 'monumental' first sentence.
interesting times for sure..never a dull moment.
It's like watching a dystopian horror movie 🌈
Really aggravating. Zizek explicitly starts a series (e.g. "there are three aspects of what I mean by death") but then Smith interrupts him before the series is complete.
Awesome interview. Must buy the book. 🤙🏽 look forward to part 2
"Now at a certain point, I tell myself, I did it, it's done" - I love this lol
on. point. counteracting all mainstream-motivation-journals..^^ let's have it done together: czcams.com/video/ZvUKil3NMHo/video.html
I dont think they are aware of the movie "Ghost in the shell". Itd be a perfect reference. The cyborg girl looks for own soul. A free will. Or something that defines a human trait of what is left.
For anyone who hasn't watched it: The original film (animation from 1995) is the real deal, do not bother with the Hollywood adaptation from 2017 with Scarlett Johanson as it alters the message of the source material and the plot becomes like a remake of Robocop. In the original film, the cyborg protagonist is more bold and does the opposite, she questions her essence but pushes herself towards an even more radical change.
SHLAVOJ
The interviewer needs to stop interrupting the guest
I can’t decide if it’s fitting or not that his Wi-Fi always seems antagonistic.
Everything is fighting everything else. Seems perfect.
yes perfect
Lmao this is to good
Please do part 2 soon
1:40 "Welcome, Slavoj"
Slavoj: ☹
We are all doomed it how you choose to deal with doom that says a lot about you
I love when explaining the real meaning of the resurrection and return of Christ, Slavoj says' It's not going to be like a man coming out of the sky saying "Hi guys , remember me? I'm Jesus Christ" " !
You say this in America and they'll think you've gone stone mad! Deep in my gut tells me something is dreadfully wrong in the great USA.
@@respectfulwisdom9405 You are right about that. American Christianity is a nutty, overly literal disaster.
Great ideas, but hear these driving to work and couldn't take out of my mind that the lecture was delivered by the Puddy Cat...
The question is, what are the real life origins of the present catastrophe? The question is metaphysical but at the same time exceeds any metaphysical framework.
Yea
Of course we are. Silly question. Mother Earth wants us dumb ass humans GONE . She is the Boss. ❤️❤️🌎❤️❤️
What if we replace the word "death" with the word "degeneration" when describing the most redundant and controversial horseman of the Apocalypse?
When laws, parchment Pale, are such that all which is not mandatory is forbidden, they're the Death of free trade, free speech, free will... Hell follows.
He said "Apolalypse" and Siri woke up on my Iphone 😂
boy why did you cut him off right as he was about to make an interesting point about death.
Parts of this are strangely reminiscent of the words of Lusseyran, in his Against The Pollution of The I. His work seems (and is) very dated now in that he bangs on about the dangers of drugs, but his concern that we are losing our essence? is-ness? hacceity? identity? seems to be echoed by Zizek in his conception of "death" ??
Why is this video still not playing?
What's the matter with Žižek's tongue? i remembered befor his tongue was not that falmboyant.
Hierdie gesels is mos kak snaaks bra😆
he suffers from nervous tics. He has talked about it on some occasions.
Every generation is learned / taught that the world is coming to an end or this could happened at any time in this ever changing world.
When it actually comes, one of those generations will be right though
@@tacitozetticci9308 Every generation thinks that they are "special" and that they are the ones who actually, unlike the previous ones, are living at the end of times.
I agree
Yes, I agree that all generations think theirs will be the one that brings the world to an end. However, in today's world, there is one key difference compared to previous historic periods: modern humans have the capability to completely annihilate themselves via nuclear bombs, which is unprecedented in all of history. There was never enough firepower to do so until modern technogy made it possible.
That one factor alone certainly raises the risk factor and possibility of seeing the world's end during this century.
Bonus points: we are living in politically unstable and dangerous times due to the elimination of past unipolar or bipolar political worlds. The multipolar one which we now inhabit leads to extreme instability, which again, combined with several global players having access to nuclear weapons greatly increases the risk factor.
Id say that there is a very big difference. The obvious is that in the past it’s always been religions, mostly Christianity that has been selling this idea. Seems it coincides with getting to the end of the Bible, I mean where else is there to go. That said this time is different because we do have science and social media to show us what’s happening on the ground around the world.
I want a third. pill.
Sir Isaac Newton's prediction for the Apocalypse - was 2060.
That timeline is looking likelier and likelier by the year.
Forget Nostradamus, the Mayan's etc - Newton was always my favorite for nailing doomsday.
But maybe it's the only way out of the present Gordian Knot. I'm starting to think progress is impossible without catastrophe. But any survivors out there, remember the lessons well, make sure everything of this time is preserved. Not on memory sticks, but on stones.
Mind you, the lessons are wrote on our hearts, are age-old. But still we make the same old mistakes. That is, don't shit where you eat, and money is the root of all evil.
Simple lessons really, almost childishly simple. And maybe that's the problem, to learn the lessons of history, men have to revert back to children.
newton was a scientist, i wouldn’t take much stock in anything he said outside of the realm of science particularly mathematics.
@@jamiehovis7722 Whether science or not, I still think Newton will be nearer the mark, given his galaxy brain. A hunch from Newton shouldn't be ignored like your average soothsayer's.
Apparently he studied the Great Pyramid and the Book of Daniel to come to his conclusions. Which Newton believed contained hidden codes passed down by a superior civilization, that was wiped out in some antediluvian catastrophe.
In other words, Atlantis.
If one does subscribe to such theories, as many of the early moderns did, we're not just talking hocus pocus, but ancient encoded mathematics. Or at least that's what Newton believed he was doing. He believed he was doing science in predicting the end of the world, or rather the end of civilization as we know it.
And with global warming, 2060 is looking like a prime date. It could be that astrology was a science that became misused over the millennia. It's original purpose was more astronomical. Predicting future events over giant spans of time.
We are now discovering the cyclical nature of the world, the ice-ages, the reversal of magnetic poles, the regular eruptions of super volcanoes. Maybe the ancients either consciously or unconsciously internalized such cycles.
@@JAMAICADOCK newton was a scientist, he was not a philosopher, not a historian, not a psychologist, not a political scientist, and least of all he was not a great occultist writer and they do exist. the idea that because someone excells at one discipline means they excell at everything, of has some secret wisdom, is silly and patently false. and you’re only proving my point, newton believed in some very silly things, good thing that had nothing to do with numbers. i wouldnt ask mozart to solve math equations or shakespeare to make comments on politics either. or perhaps your religion is scientism, you believe science has the answers god doesnt and the great scientists are its prophets and priests and de facto philosophers, which is even more wrong. newton was just a dude that was very good at math and perhaps some spheres of science. i wouldn’t take his word on anything else.
@@jamiehovis7722 I always thought the same, religion and the occult were just magical thinking. The early moderns, bless 'em - were a little touched, albeit for understandable reasons given their epoch.
But if earlier civilizations pre-dated Egypt, Mesopotamia that were wiped out etc, that's a game changer. Means much of the knowledge inherited by antiquity has to taken more seriously.
Maybe civilization goes back tens of thousands of years, ideas kept alive within esoteric schools.
Astrology, numerology, sacred geometry, the Kabbalah, alchemy might be highly sophisticated sciences that got corrupted down the ages.
Like imagine what would happen to quantum mechanics, relativity, the big bang theory, DNA, evolution, binary code - if there was suddenly some civilization ending catastrophe?
No doubt some survivors might attempt to preserve such knowledge, but over time it'd seep into religion and magical thinking.
Plato, Columbus, Bacon, Newton, Virgil were all convinced of a great civilization that was lost to history before the advent of the current historical epoch.
If so, perhaps Newton had decoded some ancient science.
One thing's for sure, this age, commencing with the Age of Aquarius, that is Aquarius rising at the vernal equinox for the 2000 years, is a key event in the Mayan, Christian, Chinese, and Indian calendars.
Besides, the very idea the ancients had figured out the procession of the equinoxes, the so called great year - I find incredible. Which I think speaks to maybe a civilization spanning back perhaps a hundred thousand years.
We might be talking a civilization that had recorded the cycles of the Earth over a vast span of time. Perhaps understanding that the wobble of the earth's Axis can have profound effects not only on the environment - but on the chemical balances of the minds of men.
The Age of Aquarius always predicted as an age of reason, technology, science. Something that has been predicted for the last 500 years in Occult circles. Francis Bacon's the New Atlantis for example, that really was a blueprint for the new age. The idea that America was the New Atlantis.
A self fulfilling prophecy, or is something deeper going on?
And if the Age of Aquarius is the age of science, has that happened before, and did lead to an apocalypse last time around? Science naturally being a double edged blade of creation and destruction.
Astrology may have no effect at the individual level, or the monthly level, but maybe that wasn't its true purpose. Astrology rather predicting nature and human nature over vast epochs of history, as linked to the procession of the Earth.
@@JAMAICADOCK the only people that believe religion and occult are just magical thinking have never read theological text or occult. plato never believed in a long lost advanced civilization , ive read every page he wrote multiple times, nowhere does he mention anything like that. what you are probably confusing is he goes into a metaphor of a long lost civilization, he doesnt sincerely believe in it he compares the socratic method of remembrance as if there once was. its called “socratic irony”.
the age of science isnt all what its cracked up to be, i can write paragraphs about the errors, fallacies, and downright delusions due to the influence of science. science is good at a narrow set of aims, theres a lot that its bad at, like analyzing art for instance which scientists come out with ignorant study after ignorant study.
theres nothing special about our understanding in this era just because technology has progressed rapidly. in some ways humans and culture have gotten less sophisticated, ever seen the movie idiocracy, technology addiction may turn us all into inept dummys. kind of already has happened.
Is Zizek disappearing behind a pay-wall? Not even this year's Birkbeck lecture recordings have managed to find their way onto the internet.
Did you expect Slavoj to give away his erse for free?
Zizek is paid for his lectures. Putting these behind a pay wall has nothing to do with Zizek’s money and everything to do with the institution protecting what it views as content it owns.
very nice, we have front seats to the end or new begin, we imagine we are watche that is enough
How does Žižek do his writing? I think it’s fair to say he gets some help from assistants, would be a truthful answer
Uh, Surplus means more than what is required for whatever is being measured. There is no ultimate "Surplus' measurement of all things in the background that's beholden to by law lol
Shlavoy
What a fantastic mediator, interviewer, whatever!! He knows how to bring Zizek back to 'us".
Jesus, I used to think a brain computer interface was a good idea. Now it’s horrifying.
Why is the image of Sadguru is here ?
Who is this guru and why is he so melancholy?
a Zizek translator?
We are in THE Apocalypse . Not in one of them, as there is only 1 Apocalypse . Enjoy the ride .
singularity is death if you have no identity preservation mechanisms
nah you're not your identity. If it dies it doesn't mean you'll die too, not at all.
Why is this video not playing?
It would be so nice if his name would pronounce right.
First thoughts on this: Zizzle boy is printing books and making some money through capitalism.
🤯🤯😱🫡🫡yoooo🤯🤯🫡🫡🤗🤗🫡🫡🫡🫡
3:54 comedy
Let Slavo talks for the god sake 🙄
when i listen to Slavoj i'm 10% hearing him and the other 90% watching him flail about!
That’s sad.
@@leoN13312 It actually is. Might be something to consult a doctor about, too.
LoL!
He's 10% talking, 90% sniffing and scratching hisself 🤣
You know I like Žizeks sf-fi over Musks, sue me
For a Lacanian, the most basic definition of enjoyment is taking pleasure in pain itself.
Maybe, but you are not a "Lacanian"
@@mmiilleennkkoo Try again!
@@benoitguillette8945 only, if you don't try it again !!!
Sounds a bit unhealthy. We do have lots of sharp object around to enjoy.
@@annaredding Learn more about masochism!
The World is suffocating under the weight of such depths of debating.
Keep it simple .... Nothing is going to change for the better . Nobody can change God's Plans .
One must write quicker than they can read (or think). :)
"Zizek has advocated for a better-regulated capitalism. His famous lack of consistency is on full display when he says capitalism needs to be better regulated while defending the Marxist line, but there is a method in his madness when he at once calls for us to take the limited step reform before moving into uncharted revolutionary waters. He also endorsed Trump, though that was in hopes he would serve as a wake up call for the American left" Quote from Big think.
I was thinking something similar these days.... I'm from Brazil and I was thinking that maybe if Bolsonaro wins again here, we could finally wake up and move to a leftist revolution. But indeed is a complicate matter....
"His famous lack of consistency is on full display when he says capitalism needs to be better regulated while defending the Marxist line, but there is a method in his madness when he at once calls for us to take the limited step reform before moving into uncharted revolutionary waters."
Marx is a historian and capitalism is a stage in history, not the end goal. To Marxists, communism is the final stage. Also communism is a reformist praxis, this is why Bakunin split from the first international. So, I don't see his lack of consistency as a Marxist.
@@williamfrost3554 thanks for your comment William 👍
@@s1lentsound Thanks. I had to clean up some typos.
pink is so him.
it already happened
don't they have dentists over there ?
Does he get phlegm on the screen also?
junk reply
@@benoitguillette8945 verbal vomit
I said in 2017 Kali Yuga is here. And this is just the beginning. Prepare for the chaos.
funny, never saw and heard that word, Kali Yuga, in my life...and I see it twice today! ( i read Midnight's children)
Kali Yuga is for a long time here
@@pouetpouetdaddy5 synchronicity
@@svvu2559 That's right
You were a few years late. At least 5. Probably more like 50.
Answer... Yes. It means the veil is lifting. Not the end of the world
Another word for “change” is “destruction.” The world is changing radically. Thus, it’s being destroyed.
Midnight Mormons channel good
Joseph Smith papers proyect awesome too
Hey I see a war criminal on the photo list at the opening.
The catastrophe, if you want to be serious, is the connection between atempts to solve one problem feeding directly into another. IE: ridiculous climate catastrophists who directly cause energy crisises and invite warfare s a consequence then stand back and cry, we need more of the same.
However, as a 75 yr old Archaeogist, I suggest you are down playing the the Fact That the climate problems facing present humans the single most dangerous time we have ever faced in the
Entire Human History . When grains can not be grown at scale and transported huge distance, human culture is over. So, we should just double down to the trap of endless short term greed
of a system based obviously ENDLESS GROWTH? Is it not obvious that we live on a closed limited planet ?
@@georgenelson8917 your respectable 75 years is nothing compared to geological time, its a pity you (and possibly me) wont live long enough to see just how ruinously wrong these grant chasing hustlers are. In the last 10 years my awe and admiration for people involved in government fundede science has gone to ZERO, this 'pandemic' was the final straw.
@@georgenelson8917 Now endless growth will happen in the metaverse, so we can keep both the (roughly) functioning world and illusion of endless growth for the financial speculators. It worries me that so many young people are depressed because of climate change, whike doing nothing and at the same time many developed countries cannot even do a simple thing like treating their sewage. The discourse of climate gloom is not working.
@@roberthuismans3533 Hard to disagree with you. My favourite is the enlightened commentators deeply caring for the planet, while happily for the economy to use products made in China and outsourcing pollution. Anothet favourite- arguing for ignoring atrocities in Ukraine and forcing Ukrainians to accept bad deal for 'humanitarian' reasons is good one. This might also be the same people who would like to rescue pets. Last, but not least, systematically undermining energy security and food security for 1) net zero (except, of course, those Chinese iPhone on which we could listen to a climate change podcast) 2) profit making (the finance of energy trade is mind boggling).
Could he try and stop waving his hands everywhere?
ahahah шлавой poor Zizek cant even get them to pronounce his name properly
zizek
Is there a Slavoj drinking game out there? Missed opportunity if there isn't.
stupid comment
Coming right after a video featuring Ian McGilchrist i cannot understand why anybody would take mr Zizek seriously. I mean, he does have a few worthwhile ideas but follows the typical meandering faux dialectic way of someone using convoluted language to disguise frail philosophical thinking. Like so much of marxist thinking: good observations, wrong conclusions. He does come across as rather sympathetic but i would have to consume copious amounts of alcohol to take on board anything he says. And be about 40 years younger..
You mean; your preconceived worldview was challenged and you didn’t like it. Capitalism is a failed experiment in human history; cyclical recessions, continuous exploitation of developing countries & labour in general, erosion of public services, global economic system brought to it’s knees by a virus, rising fascism, corporate profits dictating Western foreign policy, and no credible plan in sight to tackle climate change. Not working out too good for you is it?
Funny how the places with more state planning, public spending and public ownership tend to be doing better at taking on these challenges though!
damn, maybe you should go find a time machine capable of reverting your terminal agedness
Venezuela here we come! ......😅
Don’t,,, it’s awful here
If you listen to this man you're NGMI
why?
you need time stops per subject in your video.
Philosophical anthropological even theological bull shiting
😂
Entertaining decadent clever piffle.
stupid comment
No doubt.
@@quasimandias Grow up!
Thus: academia.
@@BillLaBrie stupid comment
I can't help but think that Zizek is a man that is being, once again, abused by a certain type of person in the West who wants to have such people "knocking around" in their sense of caliber and wanting for the world. In my long understanding of this man, he is confused and not doing anyone any favours. On a personal level, I'm sure the bloke is fine, but on such issues of existence, I'm not a fan.
Humanity will die.
I sure hope so..
How many people clicked this because they wanted to hear what it sounded like when Slavoj said the word "Apocalypse"?
stupid question
hes been a bit slow ...
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@@claudiaxander two stupid reactions
I'm going to say this: he is a studied man that comes across as someone to decipher in a mystical sense for westerners because of his horrid accent. But his points do not present themself as congruent. He lives in a classical world of political insight, yet, we have so much more information available now that he neglects. I could go on with this, but fuck it.
Dont worry Slavok Socialism always a very big State who decides everything for you.
stupid reply
HUMAN LOST
Oh no !
How will Zizek get his beloved cocaine ?
Doesn't this crud of a joke ever get old?
@@errgo2713 Not when you’re a degenerate cocaine addict.
I’ve seen cokeheads and he isn’t one
Did he just say "Hegelian and Communist"?
Rofl, boy better learn to read.
hey braniac, its called [ˈslaʋɔj]
Grow up!
@@benoitguillette8945 Eat it!
And than learn the name properly
@@mmiilleennkkoo Grow up!
@@benoitguillette8945 Eat your greens!
Go get pronouncible names in a real human language!
Stop complaining and get to the point. If you hate writing then do not do it.
he can do both complain about writing , hating it and having a need to express himself on paper and not just shoot the bull with discussions . as a philosopher he has to write to be taken seriously by his peers .
Stupid comment
I like his words but the delivery is so aesthetically displeasing I just can't. The lisp, the sniffling (although he doesn't touch his nose so much in this video), it's absurd. I suppose its a testament to the quality of his thought that he gets audience despite these glaring and very off-putting aesthetic flaws.
What would you propose he do about it? I share your opinion actually, but I think you're being harsh here. He's got a lisp, various physical and vocal tics, and he's very aware of it, even enough to make fun of himself at times. Give the guy a break.
yes the quality of thought is what matters, I almost don’t notice his tics any longer. they have become endearing
@Juan Ramon Silva Parra Yes, I suppose I just wanted to vent my frustration at not having my cake (good philosophical discussion) and eat it too (less tics, lisps and sniffles).
@@zacharysullivan4522 He could have someone else read his work! Like how authors often hire actors to read their books. For interviews he could hire an English-English "translator". I personally would love that world. And who is to say that Slavoj wouldn't prefer it, too?
@@simpaticode I doubt most people share your idea on this. Personally, I would not even watch if I had to sit through live translations.
This guy is so underwhelming.
Zizek, mate, if you keep on snorting coke, you'll be even more doomed than the rest of us!
You need a large surplus of time to listen to these guys. Sorry, I haven't got that - I should rather try to go to sleep and have a good night's rest: Typical communist conceited self-importance!
Intellectual masturbation at its best - a big thumbs down. I do appreciate the British gentleman for persisting in "trying" to keep W on track but in this instance, the train wreck kept playing out on an endless loop. I am disappointed.
That's philosophy. Get used to it.
Try one of his two movies or his books if you don't want the tangential stuff
Go back to school!
@@shipcommanderlol6577 I wholeheartedly disagree with your blanket statement; although I can understand that generalizing is generally a simpler option than one which demands credulous examination or justification ;)
@Leonhard Euler no, it's not too profound at all, it's just crap (lol), respectfully. I've heard him w Jordan Peterson and in a couple other podcasts and he was interesting, however no one can be "on" all the time, rather a simple notion, no? In this one, he was off where I'm concerned - period ;)