Neff Caddis
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- čas přidán 19. 12. 2022
- In this video I'm tying a Neff Caddis straight out of Mike Weavers' book "The Pursuit of Wild Trout". This is great search pattern for our Devon steams and by varying the body colour and hook size it can cover a multiple of different Sedge species. A number of patterns in the book like the comparadun and poly wing spinner were a real departure from the standard dry flies I'd been using of a tail-body-hackle combination, presenting the fly in the surface film especially on the smother stretches of the river was a bit of a game changer for me.
Thanks for sharing, will be adding a few green butts to my caddis to try 👍. I will also check that book out too👍👌 thanks again and have a lovely Christmas 🎄🥃
Many thanks, I assume that the green butt is meant to imitate an egg sack like you see on a Grannom or BWO spinner. I'm not sure it makes any difference to the fish but confidence in a fly is all important. Merry Christmas 🌲
@@chrismatthewsflyfishing7724 Funny I got caught up in a major Grannom hatch earlier this year and the trout were going crazy below the surface, problem was the hatch was so big I didnt stand a chance! managed to catch about 4 small trout on a small sedge but someone was saying I should have had a caddis pupa nymph on as the trout were most likely eating the rising nymphs, was amazing to watch anyway, the water was almost bubbling with trout. One of those days you dont forget, good learning experience 👌
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Whoever advised you to try a Grannom pupa was correct, for some reason with Grannom (water temp, speed of emergence etc ) the fish target the pupa and ignore the adults. Duo can be a good tactic with a hatching sedge for the dry fly ( like a Neff caddis in the right colour combination) on the dropper and a pupa on the point. Ofcourse sometimes nothing works which is why we keep trying!
@@chrismatthewsflyfishing7724 ill know for next time, thanks 😉
Great fly Chris. These no hackle designs are very effective - basically an Elk Hair caddis minus the hackle. Bob Wyatt once gave me a few of his very similar Deer Hair Sedge patterns and I remember using one of them - a size 10 - during a mayfly (danica) hatch on Loch Sletill up in Sutherland and catching dozens of good fish. I think they sit much flatter on the water than the EHC and it pays to have both in the box. As I have aged and my eyesight has gone downhill I've grown to hate fly tying and I'm all for flies that are quick and easy to tie! 😊
Yes Fred, my thoughts exactly, another great pattern is the cdc and elk which is even easier as no dubbing required. When I was younger I would quite happily sit and tie for hours but now not so much, although it does depend on the day.
@@chrismatthewsflyfishing7724 Yes I have had great success using the cdc and elk on fish that have refused all other offerings. A great fly to have in the box!
Hi Chris, like all good presents your post arrived just in time for Christmas. Thank you for taking the time to demonstrate this very simple, but no less effective Sedge imitation. I would recommend Mike Weaver's book to any avid fisherman irrespective of where you fish. I hope you will post a few other patterns [perhaps wet's or nymphs maybe?] and I shall look forward to following you when your next out on the river......perhaps looking for the Lady of the stream? Wishing you all the very best.
Many thanks Peter, maybe I'll try a nymph next time if I can get everyone out of the house over the holidays to facilitate the necessary peace and quiet😆😆 I was lucky that Mike Weaver was our club chairman and as such his ideas and patterns tended to filter down amongst the other members. Having said that there was still plenty in the book that i hadn't seen before. A must read for anyone looking to target WBT in rivers.
Merry Christmas
Chris
hi Chris, looks like a really good fly so I will have to tie a couple, no grayling fishing here at present as water too high and fast, best wishes for xmas. Mike
Cheers Mike, happy Xmas also. We are also flooded off in terms of Grayling hopefully it will drop by January to let us get out and do some bank clearing. I dread to think what's going into our streams at the moment, I saw a farmer spreading manure on a frozen field last week!!
Well Chris everyone that stocks that deer hair is out of stock so will have to wait a bit , the worst stuff with farming here is chicken manure and hundreds of tons of it on the fields so no wonder things are in decline although we did have a good autumn run of salmon this year.ATB
I knew chicken muck was bad Mike, but I didn't realise it was 4 times worse!
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Nice looking fly Chris. Like the way your show the materials and the packaging, can be difficult buying the right size etc but seeing helps alot. Cheers
The length gauge on your fly rod, did you make this yourself? Great idea
Thanks for the comment, yes the rod gauge is homemade (our club likes an accurate return and this is a quick and easy way of measuring the fish without over handling them). I started with strips of waterproof tape, then rod whipping thread and now I use an edding 780 paint maker (quicker and easier).
@@chrismatthewsflyfishing7724 nice one. Ill need to get myself a paint marker then 😉 plenty time before March lol thanks
Hi Chris, great video ...thanks for making and sharing...if I may ask as I’m looking for a new vise, how do you find tying smaller flies (18’s 20’s ) on your Peak rotary with standard jaws ? day to day please? Thanks and regards
Many thanks, it's actually an old k f odames vice (often available on ebay) I've tied down to a 26 on it without issue, just couldn't see the fly when out fishing 😆
I should add I would quite like a peak rotary vice, I've added it to my wish list👍
I use a front hackle, but it's a soft hen hackle and not designed to assist floating,( as with original ) but to suggest legs and to impart life-like movement to the fly. It definitely makes the fly more appealing to the fish!
Hi Jonathon, I've tried the same with a Partridge hackle but its so hard to find them with a short enough hackle length. Which hen hackle do you use?
@@chrismatthewsflyfishing7724 Hi Chris. I just use the smaller feathers in a veniard partridge pack. I don't obsess about proportions. An oversize hackle might even act as more of a trigger to fish.
But why do you want the hackle to be very small? Have you seen how long the legs ( and antenna) are on a real adult sedge? I'm.just putting a few turns at the head, not running it down the body like the standard hackled caddis fly. Basically a spider with a deer hair or CDC wing......soft hackle dry flies are LETHAL. The moving ' legs ' make the fly look alive and struggling.
And with good floatant, I always favour CDC wing over deer hair anyday .....my philosophy on fly-fishing was similar to Bob Wyatt before I read his book, but the one thing I disagree with him is his dislike of CDC .....it makes very realistic wing material and also collapses when fish takes......I'm convinced some fish eject a deer hair fly quicker as it feels unnatural and that they can even push fly away as they about to take............I prefer dryfly fishing on slower glides and pools as opposed to more streamy water, but using enough good quality CDC in wing and a special floatant like Loon Loscha, I e found CDC to float just as good as any material in pretty rough water.
Totally agree Jonathon, and ofcourse the softness of the CDC helps when casting to stop the dreaded leader twist. I'm not sure why I obsess about the hackle length, probably just habit. I keep meaning to buy a complete skin so I can pick out the small feathers but the English skins are a bit pricy! I remember reading a book by Ron Holloway and how he used extra long tails on his dry flies to match the length of the naturals. It did look odd to my eye to have a tiny iron blue with whisks four or five times the body length but he'd probably forgotten more about entomology than I'll ever know. Always learning.
@@chrismatthewsflyfishing7724 CDC hell of a lot easier to work with and I find deer hair so messy. I also found deer hair not the wonder floating material its made out to be and still needs floatant on it ......maybe I've just had crap deer hair!
Is that book worth buying Chris? I got in search of wild trout after watching your video. It's a very interesting read, although I am amazed that the author used only a short non taper leader and even multiple dry flies on same leader! Very different nowadays where the experts advocate a very long tapered leaders of around 18 ft and a single dryfly!
I'm probably a bit biased Jonathon as Mike was our club chairman and it was inspiring as a kid to have a chap who wrote for Trout and Salmon etc.. fishing the same river as you. Sadly when I spoke to Mike a few years back about the lack of Black Gnats and BWO or green caterpillars on the Teign he lamented that he probably wouldn't be able to write his book today as "what would you write about". I would still recommend getting a copy though if only for the travelling for trout section at the end, some great stories and pictures of hus travels to America and Ireland etc.. For a Devonshire fly fisher it's a must have with chapters on most of the major rivers in the county.
@@chrismatthewsflyfishing7724 Your river looks just like mine. Sad to think of the hatches that used to be and also much more trout then.
@@chrismatthewsflyfishing7724 Just bought a used copy off Amazon for a tenner! Only the price of two copies of Trout and Salmon mag and sure it will be a better read ;)