2022 VW Jetta GLI | Maturity LVL 99
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- We review the updated 2022 VW Jetta GLI. We cover all of the technical updates and changes. Then we discuss the good and bad of the tech included. The Car competes with Honda Civic Si, Subaru WRX, Hyundai Elantra, and Mazda3 Turbo.
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Index:
00:00 Intro
00:15 Interior Impressions
2:08 Mechanical Impressions
5:00 Street Drive Impressions
12:08 Final Thoughts - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Mark demonstrating the maneuverability of the sun visor throughout the driving segment was greatly enjoyed.
Lowkey visor test. Watch out TheStraightPipes.
Looks like it passed the screen visor test.
Let's keep watching to see how the car handles in "cornfield corner".
My favorite part is when he lowered it and it was completely ineffective.
Awesome
So does anyone else with a mk7/mk7.5 GTI have a sun visor that seems really hard to move? I have to yank on mine to get it out of the latch when I want to maneuver it like that.
I would buy it over the GTI only because of the physical controls inside.
I think it looks better than a GTI as well.
I am in the market this year. I’ve been shopping around and thinking just that. I can’t find a 2022 just yet.
I had a GTI and recently got a GLI and don't regret my purchase at all. The adaptative suspension is just amazing.
@@eronan03 They're coming in the next couple of weeks but you can order yours right now.
@@eronan03...be prepared to seek aftermarket mods to wake the up in handling and go-go and make the car like "it should have been from the factory". VW needs to add a bit more "raw" back into the mix like they used have.
I am a 60 year old man and the manual 2023 GLI is perfect for me ❤
GLI over GTI for me. There's something about the sleeper side of this car that appeals to me. I like the way it looks and if it's a bit less popular with the enthusiast crowd it may make it more rare to see on the street which I'd like if I were an owner.
Same with me. Plus, I needed the very ample trunk space as a daily driver for my inspection business.
I’m with you on this. I’m about to get married, I need room in the rear passenger for little humans in the future, and something fun to drive during my midlife crisis. The GLI fits the bill.
We aren’t really sleapers if we lose to A3s
GTI is better for sure but it costs more, but would not buy because of that flashy crap on the dash i think VW pissed of a lot of buyers because of this shit what are they thinking older folks can't use the ph properly and younger can't afford a new GTI
Not a problem put together in Mexico better than the US lazy workers look at American cars they a pile of shite
You guys nailed the target demo perfectly. I'm 37 in a single car household and didn't want to exceed mid-30's. In comfort mode my wife is happy and relaxed on longer drives, in sport mode on back roads I'm having a blast.
Honestly Id pick the Jetta GLi just for the interior. They seriously messed up the interior usability on the new GTi.
The biggest argument against getting this car is that you can get a mid spec accord with the 2.0T (more power , more torque and better reliability ) that also comes with a 6 speed. Much better chassis , more refined , more room and a better interior all for 2k more.
@@alexion7160 you can get a 6 speed and this is definitely the better suspension/chassis of the two.
@@alexion7160 and they’re about the same power. VW shows the WHP for spec
@@Cory989 The honda does too lmao. Bmw and the volkswagen group have done that for ages , its a known thing. The 2.0T accord is a sleeper. Watch drag races , here on youtube so you can educated yourself. You're literally on the platform(youtube) that can open your brain to accept the accord is faster. czcams.com/video/J7JXwKAwVqM/video.html&ab_channel=ThrottleHouse
@@Cory989 czcams.com/video/J7JXwKAwVqM/video.html&ab_channel=ThrottleHouse
Planning on buying a 2021 GLI this weekend. I can’t stand haptics on the steering wheel but I am glad that they kept physical climate knobs for 2022.
The steering wheel buttons aren't too bad. The rest of the setup is good. It's a great car. Enjoy it
2022 has vw travel assist. That's a big improvement.
@@landdevil a must on any new car.
To be fair the steering wheel isn’t too bad when you actually live with it.
I bought the 2021 GLI for that reason alone. I waited until VW introduced the 2022. When I saw the changes, I ran to my local VW dealer and grabbed one of the last 2021s.
Heya - I got the ‘21 GLI Autobahn 6MT in Pure Grey. I absolutely love this car - including the physical controls on the wheel. I just took it up to Angeles Crest Road - a windy mountain pass where Porsches race up to Newcomb’s Ranch (about 26 miles of twisties). I gotta say the GLI handled it with aplomb - it’s no Porsche but the adaptive suspension and LSD performs admirably. Add to that the great fuel mileage (I averaged 38mpg on a recent high way trip) and practicality - this is a winner for sure!!!
Elantra N is the king of this category
@@gorgonismztruth1551 - it is more powerful, but I think it looks hideous - the raised fin is absurd. It probably won't age well - but will be a great car for kids to inherit in 3 years. Also, the manual does not come with a sunroof or cooled seats, like the GLI. I'd rather just get a low torque APR+ tune on the GLI - which incidentally brings it up to the MSRP of the Elantra.
@@omariwest9068 lol @ manual.. its 2022 I will take the auto and a 5k tv please lol .... The Elantra N is a better car at a better price.. VW is lazy with the GLi cause ethyl want you tiki buy the S3 for more $$$$$ fact
@@omariwest9068 Couldn’t agree more. The GLI and N are for different drivers in terms of aesthetic appeal/maturity level. I don’t feel embarrassed parking my Jetta next to much higher end cars, which I could not say about the new Elantra.
@@toddlehman1 Only because nobody will even notice the GLI. I don't love the Elantra styling, but they tried to make something original, where VW has been styling the Jetta to be as boring as possible for years.
I’ve been binge watching your content lately, love the quality and the humour
The GLI with a stage 1 tune and high torque DSG tune ends up fixing almost all the issues you have with the sedate driving experience.
So does ESC Sport Mode, and you don't have to invalidate the warranty with a tune. And believe me - with the E888 motor, you WANT the warranty. You NEED the warranty.
@@freedmike1394 speaking from experience? Because my EA888 from 2015 (well, technically 2014) has had zero issues to date.
@@freedmike1394 EA888 is the most reliable 4 cyl gas motor that VW has ever put out. Plenty of them with tunes from low mileage in the 100k range now driving fine. But if you must, wait until the warranty runs out and then get that thang tuned!
@@Anon_Fox the EA827 is THE most eliable vw engine.
@@layne4376 torque steer is part of the fun lol
Just bought a 2019 Jetta GLI… so excited to receive it. It looks so great, great performance, and lots of great tech for a great price. Really excited
I used to own a 2012 DSG; best car I’ve ever owned. Fun when you want to, sedate when you want to. Great review again guys 👍
Loves that gen of GLI. They look so good.
I owned a 2011 GTI with DSG and had so many problems with it that I will never buy a VAG vehicle again.
@@moloono1 what kind of problems? I’m looking at some 2014 GLI’s and I’m trying to get the most info I can
@@sebafer2719 Look up mechatronic failure or watch HumbleMechanic’s video: czcams.com/video/8BbjLT3yQ-8/video.html
We also had really bad carbon build up, bad coil packs that were causing misfires, sagging headliner, and a broken shifter due to a cheap plastic part. I wouldn’t say the car was a lemon, but I was fed up with fixing it and being constantly worried about what was going to break next.
Edit: Just remembered that we had a leaky rear hatch that was filling the spare tire compartment with water (PNW rainy weather).
@@moloono1 thanks bro I appreciate it, carbon build up happens on all direct injected cars, I knew about the coil packs already, and the mechatronic doesn’t apply to me Bc I’m looking at stick shifts
I can deal with having to replace the shifter, and Jetta GLIs don’t have a hatch Bc they’re sedans
Thanks for your opinion man!
Went from a 2000-something Saturn Ion with a manual to a 2017 GLI with a manual. Few years later and it still feels fucking amazing. Missed out on some of the performance boosts that the 2019 and up GLIs received, but I honestly prefer the looks of the older model vs the newer ones. Newer models have kind of a bland, stretched out look, while the 2018 and under models still look like they could've come out of Germany. Plus the 2017 has the fender audio system, which is supposed to be way better than the new beats system. Idk what the point of my comment is, beyond the GLI being fun cars with a slightly more mature aesthetic. Unless your job is to drive all the latest cars, I think most people would be pretty happy with a GLI. I def don't have any issues zipping around on the freeway with mine.
With $10k markups on Civic Si's and Hyundai dealers who don't bother stocking N-type anything, VW should be scoring big with this.
Should, key word you used.
The detailed interior review and the audio graphs are top notch; thanks guys!
I own a 2020 GLI and this car is damn near perfect, its more comfortable and sportier than C class. Yhe perfect belnd between fun and comfort. Please let this car live on.
Really? What C Class? C Class goes from 200bhp all the way to 500 bhp
@@SpaghettiKillah well considering with a DP, E85, and the Golf R turbo you can make an easy 400WHP with this car...guess that covers every C class 🤷♂️
MeltingRubberZ28
What about the interior? The current C Class is a mini S Class when it comes to interiors, at least 2-3 categories about this VW crap. Also, comparing stock power (with warranty and all) to tuned power is just stupid on a whole new level.
@@SpaghettiKillah I so agree. Tuners are nuts. Of course you can tune an engine to make a lot more power. So what? You do so at the expense of reliability and efficiency. The C-Class interior really is nice, a big step up from the unimpressive previous generation. Even the A-Class and GLA have nice interiors that use much nicer materials than the GLI. VW has been cheaping out on interior plastics for years. Some of their cars photograph well, but touch the plastics and they're hard and flimsy.
Except the passenger seat doesn't adjust for height...
Great review. We picked this car for our first long termer for all the reasons you mention. It serves as a great reference car to compare other drives with. A car so balanced as this one that does everything fairly well means that it is simply a great car. Maybe missing a little personality but as it ages that will greatly appreciated. One thing you hint at is that this car looks bettter than the Elantra and is quieter than any Civic ever, and it’s ride quality is dialed in just right for everyday living with some fun. It is the most well rounded but it does have a few flaws you do not mention, mainly the passenger seat is awful and the interior, while functional, is quite sterile.
Thank goodness the physical controls were retained. The new GTI pushed the touchscreen experience too far. This Jetta balances the two really well.
Your level of technical detail is second to none. I love it
THE QUALITY OF THESE REVIEWS ARE FLAWLESS! 👌
I appreciate that you discuss audio results. Very helpful 👍
You do know they do that in e-v-e-r-y single video, right?
Yes. And I appreciate it EVERY single time. I’m sure everyone appreciates being spoken down to in your life though. 👍
@@jbraunger I proudly and joyfully speak down to people who waste everyone's time by pointing out things everyone knows, things that this channel is known for.
Putting down someone for complimenting someone else is the sign of a fool.
There's no reason for them to use piano black anymore. Apple has been using matte finished haptic touch controls on devices for years and years now. And it looks way better feels better than gloss finish.
Like what?
I love how the reasoning is that apple stopped doing it so there's no excuse now lmao.
This car is fantastic, not sure why these guys are so hard on it. It looks great in Black/white/grey, is a great daily driver that will smoke every other daily driver minus the hotheads with sporty coupes. It feels great, very quiet and comfy. But again, when you need to pass somebody or get somewhere, this thing will deliver.
Thank you to the team of Savageese. I always wanted y’all to do a Autobahn GLI with DCC.
Not something I would typically spend money on, but if I am driving 50k+ miles a year, I’m in.
I had a '14 GLI and Marc has nailed the demographic. Definitely not a high performance car, but you could put your foot into it and the car's engine and suspension sweet spots are right around the legal limits. Loved the styling because it had good lines without any unnecessary boy racer flair. Also had a huge trunk and really nice interior compared to the competition. Great car for an enthusiast who needs a family daily driver without drawing attention to yourself.
Great review, Jack was definitely defending this to the death, while Mark was like yea it’s fast but I wouldn’t buy it LOL.
Its for the people that want an Audi a3 but don't want to pay the premium.
The functionality of the new A3 interior is horrible and the amount of piano black is downright brutal - and I'm an Audi fan.
But the Audi is more premium
@@dragospahontu and you pay for that premium. I had three back to back GTI’s all different gens. I now have an Audi A3. It does have a premium feel but also not as fun to drive. I’ve had it exactly one year now and I already find myself looking at others vehicles online. Waiting to see a MK8 in person before I completely dismiss it. Ironically, I’ve considered recently getting a GLI and modding it.
@@TheMlvswoll that's true of course. The Mk8 is okay but the infotainment system is an inconvenience. I'd stick to the GLI. The aftermarket for these cars is crazy.
Or more space A3 is tinny Af.
excellent review fellas. I have a '21, recently coming from a '17 GTI. for highway cruising/drive to work it is fantastic. def not as lively as the GTI in the bends but the adjustable dampers and VAQ make it pretty fun. all of the points you made are valid. keep up the good work!
I’ve always wondered how the gli felt in terms of handling compared to the gti. Does the slightly longer wheel base make that much of a difference?
@@Chris-qe6qr not major but certainly noticeable. I'm still running the hankook synergys that came stock, looking forward to seeing how it does on a better set of all seasons
An APR or Unitronic ECU/TCU tune will solve most of the complaints mentioned in the video. Love my GLI
@D R it’s pretty exciting it’s on the same power plant as the gti and you can see how popular and well received those are
@D R it's much more exciting with 300 hp, I promise lol
There goes the warranty, and with a VW, you are gonna want it
@@fikes73 Apr has a program with VW that'll give you a slightly milder version of the tune to retain the factory warranty, boom solved all your problems. VWs are reliable cars and the ones that aren't just haven't been taken care of.
@@grantkendrick277 Literally every mechanic says VW are not reliable and a pain in the ass to work on. Delibertly using different types of fasteners so the regular customer would have to bring it to a dealer to be serviced. Im not sure about the 21 or 22 GLI, but VW also make interference engines with timing belts !! If your belt goes your engine is toast in those models. Obvisouly that would be at a higher milage. But the belt service and replacement VW make you get is like $1700-$2000. And if you don't get it, your extended warranty(If purchased) is void! Mexican made models of all brands, including Honda & Toyota, are not known for their reliability!
My MY19 has been great for me. Really nice balance of fun enough while being quiet and refined enough on long commutes. The manual has a nice clutch. I also liked that it was really easy to find a manual so i didn’t have to search around the country. I never owned a VW before because i’m more of a domestic guy, but i’m really happy with what i got for the price .
I've had my '19 GLI 35th for about 2.5 years now. Assuming I don't have SERIOUS issues down the road....I'd buy it again in a heartbeat.
The Elantra N is sure to have a more sporty and raw driving experience, but it comes with the price of a cheaper interior, fewer features, and that ridiculous brace across the trunk taking away a lot of usability. Like you said, this is for the person that prioritizes a mature, practical, daily driver that can give you some fun when called upon. Same with the GTI.
I bought the N. Truthfully, the interior doesn’t feel bad at all. The brace hasnt been a problem and can be unbolted without much trouble if you need to use all the passthru space. It’s all very worth it if you’re looking to prioritize the excitement, engagement, “specialness,” and speed.
@@richardwakefield5902 that's good to hear. Don't get me wrong, I think Hyundai is doing some great things with their latest cars. I'm not saying the interior is bad, is just not quite there with VW when comparing Veloster and Elantra to the GTI and GLI in my opinion.
The brace can be unbolted
I just can't warm to the Elantra's styling. I wish they'd have offered this drivetrain and suspension on the outgoing, pre-facelift model, which was a VERY handsome little car with Audi-esque styling.
@@jdipietronh I agree with the Veloster interior, it's pretty bad, but the Elantra interior isn't nowhere near as bad
As someone in their mid-twenties with a WRX, you pretty much nailed it why I didn't consider this car. But I can understand why a different type of driver would
And we beat on wrx’s
I would drive a legacy 3.6r or a xt before i would bet a jetta...
@@Hallowsaw legacy sport 2022
'19 GLI owner here, super fun car while also being a great, boring daily driver when you want it to be.
We owned an original1986 GLI and it was a fun and great car to drive at the time. Would seriously consider getting one again.
Great video men... Good start to friday
I see 500 GTI's to every 1 GLI. Not being able to defeat the traction/stability control has me back in a Honda.
An OBDeleven scanner can unlock the traction control for under $100. Yes, I agree that VW should just make traction control defeatable with the push of a button.
OBDeleven. Takes 1 minute max to disable
@@deanmarr785 do you have the coding? I actually own a '19 and would like to turn it off.
@@MeltingRubberZ28 I do not. My traction control was disabled by my tune. Somebody on the facebook page can walk you through it.
Honda won’t tune like this
Jack, your description of the Elantra N; "It's very ugly", is spot on, and that's keeping me from trading in my Elantra Sport; horsepower be damned!
Great review on the GLI, gentlemen!
Great video! This likely would have lower cost insurance compared with the WRX and Si. I wish they’d do a wagon with the same engine/trans configuration
I only just found out that there used to be a Golf Wagon that you could get with AWD and with a manual. While it's not the EA888, the 1.8T is still plenty fun. I'm kind of sad that it didn't sell well, and I think it's likely we won't get another wagon.
Elantra N is the king of this category
@@gorgonismztruth1551 I agree…likely the highest insurance too
@@gorgonismztruth1551 guess we'll find that out on the highway someday 👍
@@mistamaog I bought one of those AWD Manual Golf SportWagens in 2019 as my first new car:) Definitely a last-of-it’s-kind of car. Had the 1.8T tuned to Stage 1 and it competes with GTI power figures!
I bought a ‘20 GLI with manual transmission that was delivered with the same Hankook tires that the ‘22 GLI is fitted with in this review. These tires are by far the worst tires I have ever owned, and I believe are the primary reason the reviewers feel like the traction control and stability control are too invasive. I removed the OEM Hankooks, with almost full tread remaining at 15k miles, and installed Michelin Pilot A/S 4’s. The car’s driving dynamics and ride are completely transformed and now rarely engages traction control or stability control, regardless of road conditions.
Very interesting, thank you. I had a '20 Audobon and wish I had thought of it.
I have a 2021 model here in Brazil and I'm seriously thinking about doing the same. Thanks for sharing your impressions.
This is everything. Good tires change the driving experience for the better, always.
"You wouldn't want to go to a funeral in the WRX". That was funny....on point.
Honestly it depends on who died
@@666cemetaryslut im getting ff vibes...rip dude who raced his jetta against an nsx???? am i remembering that right??...dude was a fooool... lol
@@martinmackye9865 Lol, I think you're talking about the S2000
@@666cemetaryslut yeah yeah yeah...lol thats right.... 100k under that hood bro..lol
I currently own a 2009 Jetta Wolfsburg edition (basically a subtle gli) and plan to upgrade eventually. I’m debating between this, an Elantra N, Corolla xse (I know, it’s a completely different car) or a civic Si. I’ll be commuting 90 miles a day and plan to own it for atleast 5 years if it treats me right. Any opinion?
Excellent series. I have a 2012 and honestly it hasn't given me any major problems which for a VW is shocking.
Volkswagen isn't really that unreliable. The biggest problems they had were with the 1st and 2nd gen EA888.
@@dragospahontu Plenty of people complain about poor reliability with Volkswagen.
@@braetonwilson4296 yeah, compared to almost every other competitor, reliability is worse.
That's mk6 territory and a sweet spot to be in.
@@LLG47 Kia, Renault, JLR?!!
Great summary of what this car is. Eagerly awaiting your review of the Elantra N.
I like this car and it’s on my mental shortlist of potential vehicles that I might consider in the future. I am an older guy who’s spent a ton of money on cars in the past decade or so. I have come to realize though that I have been paying a lot for the last few percentage points of driving dynamics. Yet most of my time driving is spent in traffic and I rarely get to use the performance I am paying for. Another issue now is that it is becoming extremely difficult to schedule service with my local German luxury car dealer. In mid December I realized that I had a scheduled service coming up in a few hundred miles. First available appointment is April 4th at my local dealer. I called the next nearest dealer their first available is in May. My wife has a VW suv. Getting service for it is not an issue. I thought about a Civic Si but my local dealer is asking 5K over sticker for those. Plus I like seat heaters.
6:54 "DSG is always upshifting". True - IF you leave it in Drive or Sport mode. But if you engage ESC Sport Mode - done by holding down the traction control button for five seconds - you can hold your gear pretty much until redline (which doesn't make all that much sense in this car as it's a turbo, not a Honda VTEC). ESC Sport Mode also turns on the launch control system. I also think the DSG shifts "crisper" in this mode. I basically use this mode at all times when I'm driving. '21 GLI owner here. Thank me anytime.
I have a 2020 gli in the same color, my favorite car I’ve ever purchased so far!
I have a '21 GLI in manual and been driving it for 6 months now and I absolutely love it! I hate the look of the '22 GLI so I'm very happy I bought the '21 GLI 😊
Hi! How do u like it so far
Jack's knowledge to damper or frame is very helpful. I agreed with Jack. more refined and smooth and quiet
It's between this and the Hyundai Elantra really. You'd pick the WRX of you live in am area where it snows.
@@dragospahontu i sold wrx to m240i. I liked wrx no complaints except for noise, fuel efficiency, android auto and a bit rough drive. M240i is more fun and comfort driving. Both cars are good in snow
@@TTOORROONNTTOOful m240i is a different extreme. The WRX is the perfect snow car, but in rest it's lacking in most departments.
so jealous that you still get the old interior across the pond
its because you gusy decided that cars are pointless and no one wants them...so no one puts effort into making nice cars for you guys any more...
@@Scypher0th 'you guys' lmao, if any regular person in europe had any say in this
@@Scypher0th you are correct. People are simply willingly buying this crap. Same story with the whole SUV-mania, solely reason being the US/China market. Supply and demand!
Don't be too jealous, as it comes in a mildly revised version of the old car. It was designed for markets outside Europe where drivers want a roomier car and mostly buy sedans, especially China. So the US is stuck with a very bland car with dated technology, but reasonable controls. Or the current generation GTI. Choices are nice, but the Jetta is incredibly dreary.
My first car was a Jetta II 55hp NA diesel. It was terrible. And I loved it and miss it dearly 😌
Im liking the new style of vids nowadays , subed years ago tho
The mk6 DSG programming was reallly sporty (more so than the mk7.5 Golf R)! I feel like they soften them as they evolve.
Perhaps this is different on the 2022 model, but on previous years (I own a 2021) traction control can be fully (or at least more thoroughly) defeated by holding down the button rather than pressing it. I haven't pushed the car super hard with that off to see if it will limit me, but it definitely gives you some more freedom!
Bought a 20’ Autobahn. Absolutely love it. Had a 17’ GLI with a stage 1 tune and my Autobahn is just as fast bone stock.
Love this Phantasy Star outro.
Amazing analysis always! Would love to see a review for the 2022 updated VW Tiguan
Raitis Rides has a recent Tiguan review. Mark did one a couple years ago and it wasn’t too favorable.
@@2004cyrus what’s raitis ride gotta do with this channel lol, completely different review style
I owned a 2020 GLI... for about 6 months. I had the base "S" trim with the DSG trans. It was fun to drive, but I would say it was not the most inspiring thing either. Mark and Jack alluded to this - it needs more emotion in the experience. Compared to my Mk7 GTI it just felt like the GLI was missing something - namely, it didn't feel as playful or agile. Admittedly, it was better to drive in mundane every day situations than the GTI was, but the opposite was true on back roads. Also, the interior rattled like crazy from just a couple days into my ownership until the day I traded it in. I went to dealers (yes, different ones) on four different occasions to have them diagnose the rattles and got nowhere. "Can't reproduce" is what they said every time. I have to say it's a great car for the money, but it got boring after the first couple of months. Maybe if this is an appliance that may occasionally see some back road use, or if you like gunning it on your way onto the on-ramp to the highway, it'll be great for you.
The music montage in the begining of the video is getting shorter and shorter. Thats the best part and you guys show off the exteriors so well. Dont Skimp.
I had the anniversary edition of this a couple years ago. Bought it February 2020, perfect timing LOL I hardly drive it for the year I owned it. The interior was pleasant. I am exactly the demo, late 40s dude, commuter in a normal world. Coming out of a Miata that I was autoXing, it was boring but felt like a rocket in comparison. Sold it back to Carvana for more than I paid.
I test drove a 2021 gli with the automatic. Surprised with the cabin and trunk space. The car was fun to drive but wish I could have drove the manual.
I checked these out a few years ago and actually ended up spending similar money on a 2.0t accord with the 10 speed auto. I know its not in the same category, but it had more space, was faster and as you said, my brand affinity ends up trending towards japanese. Nice review.
I cross shopped the same 2.0T 6MT and Mr. goose’s review (and my agreement) about the boring manual in the accord helped sway me VW. Got a 2019 leftover in 2020 right when covid hit- got the autobahn for 28k and 0% interest. Don’t think you could go wrong with either tbh
@@jchang3327 I think that was good logic. I had driven manual for over 10 years and just couldn't do it anymore in the traffic in my area... Now I work from home and drive less often and would LOVE to haver a manual again since I am not slogging through traffic 10 times a week.... BUt here we are!!!
Not sure that accord is any faster bud
@@MeltingRubberZ28 It is a little faster, with the Accord's curb weight being the issue there. But that 2.0/10A combo is hard to beat for interior space and performance, it's bigger and comfier than the GLi by a decent margin.
@@CB-tx3ul doesn't seem to show in straightline performance tests, and the accord certainly can't match in handling.
I have a 2019 GLI. Best car I’ve ever owned. It gets great mpg and is a great commuter, while it also can take abuse and go fast when I want to.
I like the new Jetta. I had a 2008 Wolfsburg edition that I loved except for the fact that I couldn't get really comfortable in the driver's seat because of a lack of adjustability on the lower cushion. A power seat is what I need to make this car ideal
It’s all about the potential of the car! APR Plus matches your factory warranty and gets you 255hp 280tq. If you want more it’s there for you and with a warranty. They also have a DSG tune that can help with auto up shift and crisper shifts in general.
Plus with OBD11 you can program the car to “unlock” the traction control off feature so that’s not a problem
Or unitronic once the warranry is up. 280hp
APR is garbage bro🤦♂️🙄
@@manavkhakh9757 100%
@@android175 APR has higher tune options as well but unitronic is solid for sure
I’ve owned a 19 35th anniversary and currently own a 21 GLI S. It was the best sporty car for the money IMO at least until VW dumped the S trim for the 22 facelift. The aftermarket is pretty huge and can make the car a lot sharper.
The EA888 is also very easy to tune.
A classic sedan... That can utterly spank an Si in straight-line performance. Wonder if that says more about the GLI, or the Si.
I like how you slid a sun visor test in there.
The GLi was my runner up to the Mazda3 that I purchased last year. Its a very nice/competitive option. Projected reliability was one of the main reasons it lost out.
How are you liking the Mazda? did you get the turbo model? I'm considering one myself.
@@brassrox Enjoying it a lot. Non turbo but I am 100% a cruiser type driver so I can't comment much on the fun factor. The interior really makes the car.
@@brassrox The biggest argument against getting this car is that you can get a mid spec accord with the 2.0T (more power , more torque and better reliability ) that also comes with a 6 speed. Much better chassis , more refined , more room and a better interior all for 2k more.
@@alexion7160 Acoord is slower, handles way worse look at lightning lap results, has no LSD, doesn’t have a dual clutch DSG, and doesn’t tune anywhere close to the GLI. The GLI is a bargain for what it offers
@@alexion7160 Accord looks bloated and cumbersome. Jetta is way sportier.
Everyone should own this car. It's so so good. My GLI is a 2020 Autobahn manual. It's a do it all special car.
If you like rattles, constant problems and slow
@@jamessephar9458 Its a 4 second car with no problems in the last two years. Yes, its tuned. Don't jinx me.
Can't WAIT for you guys to into the Elantra N. I sense that in the next 2-3 years as the N recognition grows, you'll be interviewing Biermann.
Another banger from savagegeese. Best reviewers on the 'tube.
I know it will never happen, but I would love a RWD GLI. Simple, sporty and low cost sedan. It’s Just not really a thing
Let's start with a FWD wagon because VW already has the architecture...or even an AWD wagen and give it "drift mode"...
@@K03sport if they made an R version (AWD with the bigger turbo) it would definitely be in my garage right now
@@MeltingRubberZ28 agree. I would love an R wagon to, but VW/VWoA thought the states wasn't good enough for the R Wagen. I'm glad we got the Sportwwagen (gas and diesel) and Alltrack... A Passat wagon (or Arteon wagen) would be great to because not all of us want a cuv/suv.....
He's complaining about the look being boring compared to the competition, but the look is exactly why I'm going with the GLI, it looks mature and performs beautifully. The Elantra N mpg is terrible and the look is terrible, and the SI looks good but the performance isn't up to par with the GLI sorry.
Exactly
So, in a couple of years when I'm ready for a new car, it's going to have the horrid info-tainment system with lack of physical buttons that the current *GTI* does. And, it'll likely have the extra cheap interior of the current *GTI* along with the partial penectomy of the shift lever. And of course it'll be a Jetta in name only since this generation is literally as big as my mid-size Mazda 6 V6 sedan. Got it! Thanks guys.
Good and fair review.
Car actually sounds decent inside the cabin, Much better buy than the SI by far
@@chocolatewheelchairof course it will but not everyone keeps their car for 10+ years
Here in Europe for about 450-550 $ you can tune the EA888 up to ~300 hp on Stage 1and the DSG gearbox to shift how you like it and make it a dream combo. For me is just a very good base to start.
How reliable is it after the tune?
@@v8_sami As reliable as stock.
A few months ago, this native Californian just returned to the home state after 34 years of east coast city living without a car (January 1988 was the last time I'd owned a car). I thought I really wanted the new Honda Civic Hatchback Touring but back-to-back test drives had me appreciating the VW Jetta's automatic versus the Civic CVT. Although down about 35 horsepower from the Honda, the VW was zippier in real-world, around-town traffic. And it felt more premium. I purchased a new '21 Jetta SEL spec for non-commuting (I work from home), northern California urban-suburban competency, fuel efficiency and safety. I love it. I put about 500 miles a month on it and it gets terrific fuel mileage. I'm very happy with my new Jetta. If the wife and I retire to someplace with more (if not Minnesota strength) inclement winters (New Mexico?), I'd seriously consider switching to a VW Tiguan. I hear there's a hybrid version coming to answer Honda and Toyota. I'm very interested!
Terrible fuel Economy? What are you getting? Why didn’t get you get a Tesla Model 3
Looking forward for the review of the Elantra N, but I guess this will beat it by far, as a nice driving car. Without hassles.
A different color other than some shade of grey would make this car pop. Across the entire spectrum of cars on the market today I would love to see more color.
Seriously. It seems like 90% of new cars are 50 shades of gray, black or white. It's boring as hell.
Am I seeing this correctly?
The boys are unofficially sponsored not only by Patagonia but by The North Face as well??
I think you guys nailed the review of this: It’s a little better than average, but that’s about it. Not very compelling with other options in the market.
I also checked out the GLI a few years ago and went with a 2020 civic si due to the driving dynamics and superior shifter. I just traded up to a 2022 civic si due to the Honda driving experience I appreciate even as a middle aged Arby’s swilling suburbanite.
Thank you Mark and Jack for another informative and entertaining video. Cheers
@J Hoop The 2022 is the nicer car... For what used cars are going for, if you can swing a spectacular deal on your trade-in (make them WORK for it!) and purchase of a new one, it might be worth thinking about. Personally, I'm sticking with my 2016 Touring.
I am in Canada and was able to find one without markup and secured basically what i paid for my 2020 on trade in.
The 2022 has a better suspension despite no adaptive dampers and the transmission is far better with shorter, more direct throws. The engine tune and vtec on the exhaust feels more naturally aspirated and pulls hard from 2300 to redline unlike my 2020. The interior is considerably more upscale than the 2020. I am very satisfied with the 2022.
I have been driving civic si’s since 1997.
@@2009wookie I’m in Canada as well. Was looking at the Si back then, but thought my wife might be driving it a little, so needed an automatic. Plus, the creature comforts aren’t bad. I figured I could swap suspension parts from the Si over later, if needed. I buy cars for the long-haul. Unfortunately, my back has me really thinking about a CR-V instead…
Used to have a 2019 GLI and it was a fun car for sure, very solid vehicles for the money. For some reason it felt as though you were sitting on the ground, more so than other sedans imo.
I have the same comment about the 2016 GLI I had. It felt as though you were sitting lower in the car compared to other sedans. Very solid vehicle though I'm having more fun in my Fiesta ST
@@gearhead196 exactly, and my passengers were always complaining because the passenger seat didn’t have any height adjustment.
That's funny. In my WRX, I'm sitting up in the car and want to sit lower, but can't. It is different from my mk4 GTI where I sat low, IN the car vs the wrx and feel like I'm ON the car...I'd much rather have the lower seat
I really wish after all this time VW would offer the Haldex 4 Wheel Drive on the GLI, even if it cost an extra 5k one could avoid having to go up to an Audi.
I think you hit on the explanation right there. They don't want VW stealing sales from entry-level Audis.
i like the looks very much. I'm a bit older and done with having a hatchback. this fits all the boxes until i make more money and get an S4.
I'm gonna tune it up a bit so its more exciting.
It sounds fantastic!
I'd rather this than the MK8 Golf.
I love everything about this GLI, except the red rear blinker. For some reason, the current gen Jetta / GLI had amber blinker in MY19, then starting MY20, VW switched to all red again. Is the amber LED blinker that expensive???
I noticed this too but tbh I like the red more
It looks sleeker and less cluttered, and usually a combined brake light/blinker is reserved for higher end cars
Honestly, I do prefer the red rear blinker, it looks cleaner and also more actual, I associate the amber lights with old vehicles
I wish I could get an mk8 GTI with this infotainment setup. Would be my perfect car if so.
BTW guys the current / recent reports on the Gen3 EA888 in this car and my 2019 GLI have been trending with VERY low carbon deposits for those of us with high mileage engines. So far so good but we will see when we check again at 100k miles. Also you are right about tracking these cars. The guys trying to put down 1/4 and 1/8 mile times are running the DSG and the current record holder in nearing 12 flat and might be able to get under 12 seconds this year. The problem for the DSG drag race guys is the ECU pulling timing even with a bespoke tune and disabled traction control. I run my GLI pretty competitively in autocross but of course I have the 6 speed and highly modified suspension. Very true on the affordable luxury feel of this car. Awesome interior, great driving and can be a perfect daily driver and young or older person's car. Great review as always guys, thank you.
The GLI broke under 12 last year. 11.8. probably 11.5 soon
@@sharktin240 amazing! Did you guys figure out the TC problems?
I like the idea of this, the new Si seems too stiff and bouncy especially in the midwest. But that plastic oil pan always makes me cringe on the VW.
Kizzle, don’t let the composite oil pan scare you as it is a very durable material. It’s not like the oil pan is hanging below the car. If you did something that damages the oil pan, it’s likely that you would incurred other damage (suspension?) that would be more of a concern.
oil pans must be metal, so one could attach magnets and collect bearing shavings
Way better than the SI for price to performance. Also out handles it
I recently went to test drive a M340I at a VW Dealer and was really not moved by it at all. Maybe because I just sold my F80 M3, but the M340 just seemed like a car - a quick one, but nothing fun. There was a blue GLI there and I asked I took it for a drive and thought this is money better spent. Spend $30k on the GLi and I'd have money left over to buy a Miata or C6. The light weight in the GLI really makes it tossable and fun. Also feels substantially quicker than the Civic Si, even though the numbers do not show that huge of a difference.
I like this one, it’s obtainable from a money perspective from an average Joe and seems to me still enjoyable in a way people doesn’t look at you like a teenager in a Civic.
Whenever Mark and Jack review any VW product, they always mention the direct injection/carbon build-up issue. That's perfectly fine. It's a subject that needs to be mentioned. I've noticed, however, that they don't mention this same reliability concern nearly as often when talking about Honda, Mazda, or Hyundai/Kia products. This was again the case here with the Civic Si (or any current, non-hybrid Honda), the Elantra N and N-Line/Kia Forte equivalents, and Mazda 3, all of which employ the same direct-injection technology found on the VW. In fact, if it isn't a Toyota or Ford, and it has a turbo, it will likely have direct injection, without any port injection to clean the valves.
Why do Honda, Hyundai, and Mazda receive a pass on this, while VW doesn't? Honda, Hyundai, and Mazda also use turbos in combination with DI, which is an additional reliability concern frequently mentioned on this channel in conjunction with VW (and Subaru) products, yet it's rarely mentioned as a concern with those other brands. We tend to assume superior reliability for Honda and Mazda products, and in the past that assumption was well earned, but does it still apply? Those stalwart old Civics, Accords, Elantras, and Mazda 3's did not have direct injection and turbos. These new DI/turbo models have not compiled enough years on the road to determine their long-term reliability. They may well prove just as problematic long-term as the DI/turbo VW's have been to date.
Direct injection is a legitimate concern. There is a very good reason that Toyota refuses to go down the DI/turbo road in their own vehicles.
Point being, these concerns need to be applied across the board, not just to VW products.
Because they've all somehow designed THEIR DI systems to not have severe carbon build-up at all...
@@troyjollimore4100 I can't quite tell whether you're being sarcastic or not. I assume you are, but just in case you aren't, nope, they haven't. My local Subaru and Mazda service departments both suggest regular-interval walnut blasting (or an equivalent engine treatment) for their DI cars, which, in the case of Subaru, is every last one of them except for the new BRZ. I'm not aware of any current Mazdas that don't use DI, and I believe only Honda's hybrids don't use it.
They're all going to suffer from carbon gunking.
@@vlj1133 I've had my Honda for about 5 years now. Low miles, but many others that have many more report their engines only show a typical amount of carbon when they've had work done, or just looked.
@@troyjollimore4100 What is a "typical amount of carbon," and have they scoped their valves to see how much gunking is really present? I've seen scopes of Mazdas and Hondas with only 10-20K miles, and the valves were already looking fairly nasty. By 100K, they're going to look like the La Brea Tar Pits.
Meanwhile, I've seen scopes of the valves in Toyota engines that still look pristine at 100K, precisely because their valves received a constant washing from the port injectors.
Then there is the turbo issue.
@@troyjollimore4100 any direct injected motor is going to have carbon buildup. It’s just a fact
My 19 GLI became a lot faster after adding a Neuspeed power module, and that's enough fun for me.
I agree with the stock GLI but you put a little bit of money into this car and you can get a surprisingly great car. You put some bilstein B16 coil overs, stiffer rear sway bar and stage 2 tune with DSG tune and this car is a fun daily driver that gets you 30+ highway mpg. I drive mine 60 miles daily on these mods and I love it. I also catch a lot if turbo v6 infinity and 5.7 hemi by surprise.
Bro make a vid on ur gli, it sounds dope. I want one and would love to see how other ppl mod their cars.
It’s a great tuning platform too! You can get low 400 hp easy with fbo.