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**SCAM ALERT** Fake NGK Spark Plugs - BEWARE!
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- čas přidán 21. 01. 2018
- Apparently some shady companies in China are making fake NGK and Denso spark plugs. I'll show you how to make sure you don't get hosed buying fake NGK plugs.
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I thought you were going to have an example of a fake compared to real :(
Sorry.
That is an example of the fake! The real one would have the “IR” logo which stands for Iridium. His sample shows the “R” logo only
@@chiobes they are platinum not iridium plugs
@@chiobes That would be so if they were Iridium plugs, hes got platinum plugs as labeled on the box.
Buying eBay parts for your Ferrari? I own cheap Japanese cars and I’m not even this clueless.
They are the same part
They could EASILY correct the position of the blue printing and the washer....so I would mostly worry about the 4 digit stamping ...my guess is they take generic plugs and re mark them....btw they are doing this with practically ANYTHING they think they can get away with ....THIEVES that need to be caught and TORTURED slowly on CZcams for all victims to enjoy!....btw unscrupulous might not even care if the plugs they were re-marking were even the correct heat range.......GRRRR just want to KILL these types! SO SO many crooks these days! Zero conscious "ANYTHING for a buck no matter who suffers"
owns a ferrari, buys sparks plugs from ebay - face palm!
How is saving money a face palm?
Go support a local business instead of trying to save a few pennies at most on freaking spark plugs.
N. I. 😂😂
Maybe he can afford a Ferrari because he looks for good deals, and how do you know where your local business is getting their parts from too? Unless its a big company like autozone, advanced auto... etc you really don't know who the suppliers are.
I dont buy autozone, pepboys, or dealer normally online just for my 14 and 04 silverado
the core under the porcelein part is copper at ngk original ones, and steel core at couterfeit ones. so you can check it with magnets..
Great informational video, thankyou. Just purchased 4 spark plugs on ebay called "iridium". Waiting for their arrival. From the photos, have "Japan" stamped on the hex section of the plug where the spark plug socket sits to tighten/loosen. I will be sending back for a refund. Price set of 4 was 18.99. My alarm bells should have been ringing as the price is really cheap for iridiums. Cheers from Australia.
Ah yeah that doesn't sound good
Some of the Fakes are actually being sold on Amazon and they look exactly like the real thing . The CR9EIX Iridium plugs Look exactly like the real ones except they are nearly 2 mm longer and they will smash into the face of your piston immediately upon trying to crank your engine
Oh man, that would be a very expensive problem.
Yes I unfortunately bought some of these and upon completing my very 1st valve adjustment was met with a no start situation. I thought that I had improperly timed the engine but it turned out that all 4 plugs had been destroyed by the pistons
Yes. There is a ton of fakes consumer goods on amazon too.
Pretty sure I have them now. First one I pulled has the porcelain separated from the metal
@@DEHOYOS98 It is pretty easy to identify the knock offs As they will be Slightly longer then the stock plugs. That extra 2 mm is not an extra 2 mm that your cylinder head has from TDC of the piston.
I bought NGK for my Jaguar last summer from Amazon, never thought to check if they were legit. They work fine though.
Yeah, I had not heard of this until just a few weeks ago... Figured I should spread the word in case others had not heard.
I bought some on eBay for my Ford Focus about six months ago, but noticed the fuel consumption is terrible - about 25mpg. So I'm going to have to check them this weekend, weather permitting.
On the 4 digit hex number did al spark plug Match the same number or that don’t matter?
I bought my NGK from Rock Auto. The last were Denso Iridium from Amazon and the center electrodes all wore off to where the gap is way to big than the 0.044 in spec'd. Checking hte engine but so far no issues.
Ngk spark plugs don’t come pre gap
Can a fake spark plug damage a piston?
The other day I purchased NGK 4998 for my 2011 wrangler from CarID the price was just 6.75 each a great deal everyone else on Amazon and Ebay are selling the same plugs for $10 to $15.00 a piece I have even seen one vendor sell these plugs for $26.31 So at the price that CarID is selling am not sure if they are real or not just cheap Chinese knock offs. Can CarID be trusted not to sell crap ?
Has a Ferrari.... can't spend the extra $ buying oem products...makes video on it... makes money.
Thank You for bringing this to our attention!
You're welcome
Wow learn something new everyday! Thanks for the heads up.
+DOWORK EXOTICS no problem!
You did not. He got the fake Iridium plugs. The real one should have the “IR” on it as opposed to “R” which is what’s on his example
I don't understand why people throw away their jobs and other people's jobs by buying online and foreign products
Uh ok
If you look on Alibaba you will see chinese factories copy any plug including genuine oem packaging if you want. Always buy from an approved vendor or you will most likely have fakes.
Yup
"earning money while destroy other lives silently is the real power" China2019~
Yup
Karma is getting them now 🤷♂️
Maybe you should start fixing broken Ferrari's and sell them? Fixing cars seems to be the new automotive trend on YT.
I may at some point
Here is the problem, when companies move production to China they have to sign wavers stating that the products manufactured in that factory will be copied! Not really a whole lot one can do about it!
Yup
You can also check the brand in the description it should say NGK BUT IF the plug in the picture says NGK but it says unbranded buy the brand in the description then there fake !
I always buy my NGK plugs from an auto parts store so I don't have to worry about real or fake. Retail on those platinum plugs is about $13 each. How much were they on eBay?
+Patrick94GSR I paid $75 with shipping for all 8.
$12 for all 4..lol
Those look like fake spark plugs. I thought NGK did not ship their plugs with a cardboard/brown insulator protectors?I thought the real ones only came with a plastic sleeve?
I'm not sure on that
Genuine manufacturers stopping fakes is like a blindfolded farmer trying to catch mice in his barn with the lights turned off...best of luck with that
True.
I buy last week and now i proved that it is not a fake because of your video thank,,,,
You're welcome
Ok.. but do they work?
platinum plugs on a ferrari? can't use iridium?
Thanks. I just bought some fake ones on Ebay!
Bummer.
So were they fake?
Man,thank you I didn’t know their was fakes😅
Yeah stupid scammers out there
Wouldn't the people making the fakes just change their manufacturing process to be in line with the NGK guidelines for identifying a fake? And thus make it much harder to identify a fake?
I suppose they could.
I'm pretty sure i got a set of fake NGK perma gap plugs for my boat a few years ago...
The electrode area looked off, like a bit roughly finished.
I never could get the engine to run with them, drove me nuts because i bought them in advance, then installed when i pulled the boat out in the spring.
+Chris W it's totally possible. Supposedly the fake ones don't work well at all as they aren't actually iridium.
Cheap ass driving ferrari and buy the cheap stuff?
🤣🤣
Didn't showed the tip which is the main thing in a spark plugs
ok
Make sure your Ferrari is also original, there FAKE Ferrari's out in the wild.
True
Thanks for making this helpful video 👍🏻
You're welcome
hey, everything looks fine on mine! Except that on mine its an "IR" Logo not "R" like on yours.
I think it's ok then.
yes ive watched some online photos. its genuine one
Geez, what's next fake condoms.
And why are you buying spark plugs on eBay... Huh?
Oh "cum" on....LOL
+mariodesmo because they are about half the price in ebay.
Because eBay is usually cheaper
@@normalguysupercar but... you have... a Ferrari?
Buying cheap parts is how I saved the money to by my Ferrari
You have to call bel and give them the number stamped on the plug
That's one way
To me is cheaper buy car pats in part shops, and not from internet.
Now in Easter EU making fake car oil. Takes famous brands, and fill cheap or mix used oil with cheap.
+menorex we just can't have anything nice without some assholes faking it.
Some automotive stock is made primarily for the Asian market. If the spark plug works as it is suppose to then one should take their silly rants elsewhere. Products made for the Asian market won't be identical to the those in the N.A. market. Other than the outside of the spark plug not being 100% exactly the same as an original NGK spark plug there is no real proof that the NGK plugs are indeed "fake" knock offs.
Nearly everyone I know who has taken their vehicle for servicing has gotten scammed majorly by both shady and legit mechanics. Mechanics today will "ALWAYS" make sure that if a car is taken in for servicing that the customer will not be able to remove their car from the service area without at least a +$2500 service bill. Given that notion, most mechanics will tend to lie since it is in their best interest to lie and not tell the customer the real truth these days....
To manufacturer a spark plug requires way too many pieces of sophisticated and dedicated (and highly expensive) machinery. If a Chinese company wanted to clone a spark plug and make the plug as look as similar to an NGK as possible then they would just re-brand the spark plug under their own name and have minor changes that would distinguish their plug as different from the competition.
I do know that what tends to happen in Asia is that many of factory workers do take some of the factory (due to minor superficial imperfections) rejects home with them and resell the rejects on EBAY to supplement their low income. The factory rejects do not look 100% perfect like the original plugs but the factory rejects should still pass OEM standards and work like original NGK spark plug.
Gotcha
I ordered some how do I know if their fake or not before they come in?
I don't know if you can
What’s your opinion of the Maserati Ghibli?
Not a big fan
??? will the ebay seller show you the real NGK picture but sell you fakes ???
Thanks for sharing great info Daniel!
I have a 2006 F430 Spider, getting ready to replace my spark plugs, ordered a set from an eBay seller. Spark plug arrived, saw your video so I inspected my new spark plugs right away and luckily they are all legit!
Many thanks again for sharing excellent information.
Dan
+danloyol you're welcome! Glad to hear yours are legit.
Bought some off ebay, seem legit. They measured fine and have been working fine. They actually looked exactly like the ones i removed from the engine.
Probably got real ones then.
@@normalguysupercar i would say its likely. Much cheaper then parts store. Also i have learned not to buy the cheapest anything you find on eBay. The middle of the road seems to be the sweet spot.
@@pospc2 millions of scammers just read your message and had an AHA moment. Now the fake parts they sell for 1/4 price of OEM are being marked up to 1/2 price to fly under the radar, lol!
so.... have you talked the wife into buying "her a new Ferrari" yet? lmao
Benji Greenlee i am waiting for Dan to vlog that 2nd Ferrari, too! Hehe
+Pjmperez01 y'all will be waiting a long time.
Wow..never knew there were fakes. Thanks for the info.
Yeah I didn't either until someone mentioned it.
You've got fake because it doesn't have hyphen under the P of japan
Well shit
You got victimized! You got a fake ones according to ngk I just spoke to. The real Iridium spark plugs should have the “IR” logo on the porcelain. Yours only has the “R” logo which is missing the “I” which is a giveaway that it is fake!
These are platinum dude
You remind of an episode from Friends where Joey tribbiani with the ferrari
Ha!
@@normalguysupercar but you actually have one!
Thanks for the info. I think you should do a video on fake carbon road bikes.
Well it's not really in line with my channel
*Could you imagine car dealerships loading up with these and causing severe damage to their customers cars. Or at least a never ending mysterious problem with their engine that the $tealer$hip would be happy to waste your money on I bet this is going on.
*There are many cars that dealerships charge more than $1,000 to change the spark plugs because the plugs are so BURIED INTERNALLY that the whole top of the engine has to be removed to reveal the plugs.
Thanks Ford . . . just to name one of many. Also, Examine a new car closely before you buy. Learn how to tell if an engine has a timing belt or CHAIN just by looking at the front of the engine.
All high volume sellers ( Amazon / eBay and others ) better have a network of competent secret shoppers or else . . . because they certainly bear some responsibility in this too.
The battle of Fake vs Genuine Merchandise should never be fought by the consumer . . . NEVER.
What is Sold Here . . . Should be MADE HERE. Support Pres. Trump.
It seems this fundamental failure has been going on for years . . . No Excuse i.e. A lot of people are Not Doing Their Job.
Yup that would suck
High performance air and oil filters is a subject that needs to be investigated
+PlanetPowerHD and how is mostly bs?
At less than full throttle, your throttle plate is more restrictive than your air filter. Factory filters are generally a bit more restrictive but offer better filtration, the "high performance" ones flow more freely at the cost of compromised filtration. Do a used oil analysis on your oil with a genuine OEM filter and then drop a K&N in there and you'll see higher silicon content in the K&N oil change.
As far as oil filters there's really not anything that's going to magically improve performance. If your filter is clogged up to the point that it is restricting flow the bypass valve kicks in and allows full oil flow to the oil pump, though it is not being filtered. The main differences in oil filters are the media itself and how efficient it is at filtering, the amount of filtration media in the filter, the material the anti-drain back valve is made of, and the overall construction of the filter. You won't gain any performance by using a better filter but you can reduce the number of particulates in your oil by using a quality filter.
Yea but dod they work fine?
Mine were real so yes. There are reports of the fake ones failing
Normal Guy Supercar good for you, I remember buying fake rainbow car speakers on ebay, that wasnt cheap. 😣
Do you suggest iridium spark plugs for 2012 bmw 5 series?
What's the point In making this video if you have no fakes to show us ?
To warn people about fakes.
Okay but it would have been nice to see a fake so we know what to look for next time
Hey I was just about to order plugs for my Charger, great info!
Another tip for ebay, only buy from US sellers, that cuts a lot out.
+Mopar And More yes. Mine were from a US seller.
I had one break and mess up a valve and piston in Corolla went inside head and caused crack in head
That sucks!
how can a spark plug cause that?
Thanks for the heads up👍
You're welcome!
Counterfeit on Amazon as well, btw.
Indeed
Might've just fallen victim.. Mine seem to be legit but one detonated and depressed my engine. Hopefully they are legit and NGK will do right on my claim :(
Eek
Thanks for the info!!!
+zmanvideo1 you're welcome
The real crime is that some of the major manufacturers like AC Delco are making spark plugs in China as well. The traditional mantra for small block Chevy engines is to just stick with AC Delco. All manufacturing in China answers to the Communist party above all else including the USA based "manufacturer." Therefore there is no guarantee of quality control for a Chinese made plug even though it is an authentic product. Chinese made equipment is OK in some applications, but not for things made of porcelain that are just microns away from my pistons slinging back and forth 5 thousand times a minute. I've had good luck with Japanese made NGKs so maybe I'll try some NGK XR5s in my 1970 Corvette. Hopefully I'll get some authentic ones at the auto parts store that are still made in Japan.
While I agree with about 90 percent of your statement here, one thing that you cannot take away from the Chinese is the fact that they make awesome porcelain... thus "Fine China".... you know, all the plates and stuff... Now if you have issues with the electrode side, that's a different story altogether. Now with the whole Bat Stew Flu issue, I think things are about to change real fast here. You are going to find more Vietnamese, Indian, and Mexican plugs.
@@freddaniali You are correct and make a good point. As I recall from my college international history classes, the Chinese invented porcelain, and the finest kaolin (main ingredient in porcelain, and also ironically kaopectate) comes from China. While Chinese porcelain gave the term "fine" to its product, it was invented sometime in the Eastern Han Dynasty somewhere around the time Jesus was conducting His ministry on Earth. I am not aware of the politics in china 2,000 years ago, but I do know that today, Communist China uses slave labor in its manufacturing facilities and has complete control over quality. AC Delco may think they control the quality in the Chinese AC Delco slave labor factories, but the Chinese Communist Party controls everything. Even in my 5-6 email exchange with George Adams from GM on this issue, he refused to even acknowledge that AC Delco plugs are even made in China. He just parroted lines about AC Delco plugs being the finest quality made from the finest materials... just like he was instructed to by his masters in China. OK, maybe the Chinese AC Delco plugs are good; and certainly my Chinese made iPhone is of good quality; however, I am still more comfortable eating my Thanksgiving dinner on fine "China" than I am powering my 1970 Corvette with 17,800 original miles on it with Chinese plugs. You are also correct about the future involving Vietnam, India, Mexico etc., but as long as the Japanese make NGK plugs in Japan, I will use them. I think NGK may be the best OE plugs available these days. It says something that NGK plugs are being counterfeited in China, which is why I never order NGK plugs on-line. I only buy them reputable walk-in retailers like Autozone or O'Reilly. Happy motoring!
@@dojmike Well put! I'm sure that like me, you would gladly pay more if it were made in America by American workers.
@@freddaniali Amen! If this whole Kung Flu event has any benefit, I hope it causes us to return manufacturing to the USA!
This one you got from Ebay is fake for sure.
"R" on ceramic (below NGK) is to be IR . ( for Iridium)
Hmm, not according to their site... I think mine are legit.
Normal Guy Supercar visit autozone or O'Reilly near you and see your self.
No,the platinum plugs just have an R, Just took my plugs out today they are the factory OEM plugs have an R on them.
@@Yophillips3272 Kind of weird though. IR for iridium and R for platinum. Funny labeling idea.
I think the R means Resistor, the IR I have no idea maybe Iridium resistor? Yeah it's confusing originally I thought the R stood for Racing lol
thanks for the heads up, cool vid.
You're welcome.
He got the fake Iridium plugs. The real one should have the “IR” on it as opposed to “R” which is what’s on his example
So they aren't being made in China now? Huh. Got to run to the garage.
+Taelor Watson I think the real ones are made in Japan.
Why the fuck would you put NGK in your Ferrari ? you don't put Not Good Kind in any sports car unless you live on a reservation with room for one more car in the yard
That's what the factory uses
Normal Guy Supercar wow that actually really surprises me . I’m sorry if I insulted you then . And I’m not able to say or argue otherwise . Crazy . I have no reason to doubt you but I am astonished they would do that . Blows me away . Man honestly I’ve had the worst experiences with NGK . I do like Denso but prefer bosch where applicable . Hell when they can’t give me either of those i say give me the autolite ones . I’m glad you replied actually . You schooled me . Thanks for you time
Genuine $12....60K mi
Other $4.... 20K mi
Thank you Dan.
+101sabre no problem
Great info! Nice product plug...LOL
+Robert Kohut now that was a good pun.
So I got the real deal then. Cool Beans Baby!!!!
Apparently this is a long standing problem, going back to 2015 at least! Here is the some info on the fake Densos: www.driven2automotive.com/blog/how-to-spot-fake-denso-iridium-power-spark-plugs-2017/
Very helpful link, thanks!
Beware of fake videos on the CZcams. LoL!
Thanks!
No problem! :)
Jeez, fake spark plugs, what's next.
Yeah, I suppose the markup on them must be significant enough to be faked.
That plug you have is fake part number is no good
Ok
Thanks.
No problem
You have the fake spark plug.. 🤣🤣🤣
Uh no, it's not
Yeah Chuck em in its only an old shitbox Ferrari what's it going to matter
Ok
You did not show the fake one side by side, how could we tell the differences between the two? sad!
Perhaps because I didn't buy fakes?
Who would make fake shitty spark plugs? ... Can't be much profit in that
Yeah I'm thinking it's not the greatest scam.
mike korman
might cost them nothing to make them and sell them 13 bucks each
Ebay & Amazon will fuckup! your car live and learn?
Yeah, probably best to just pay a known parts supplier that's trusted.
Hey don’t know if u know by now but these are fakes
No they were real.
You got the fake ones
Not according to the guide
Has NGK varified this!!
They have a page on their site about it
@@normalguysupercar Please send a link.
Why Ferrari runs on Japanese sparkplugs? :)
Cause they are good plugs
@@normalguysupercar i know . I always use them. But i have Japanese cars. Still not so fast and beautiful as a Ferrari
Dang China
Yup
Well these days Ngk coils are genuine made in china.
But by the sanctioned ngk factory
Are you sure about that? I'd rather have a bosch made in slovakia than a ngk in china you know :)
I think I have the real McCoy. They say NGEEKAY on the plug.🇨🇦
Gen you ien!!!
+Dwayne Rose nice.
I buy Used Spark plugs so I know there original OEM Muhahahahaha
Interesting
👍👍
Thanks
Omfg.... what’s next. Smh
People are pretty shitty sometimes. Anything to make a buck.
I use Brisk plugs in my Mustangs.....they are the best plug ive ever used and superior to the autolite crap.
www.briskusa.com/
+Gregg H never heard of those
Everybody in the Mustang club has converted to them .....i put them in my wife's highlander several months ago. I think the company (brisk) is euro most made in Belgium.
holy shit did not kmow this
Yeah I didn't either...
if you own a ferrari why are you buying shady things from ebay???? why not just take it to a ferrari dealership sounds like your being cheap no?
Because I'm saving money? So because I have a Ferrari I just just pay the Ferrari Tax?
if you wanna save money buy a corolla i feel like a person whos buys a car like this should do the maintenance right and just take it to ferrari so you dont screw up your expensive car is all im saying
Yeah and what's a Ferrari owner doing on CZcams other than being cheap and watching FREE videos !
Some Ferraris require you to drop the engine every X amount of miles, I hope you have the right screwdriver for that, it's a fun hobby for some...
Caveat emptor
+Robert Kohut very true.