Vernon Presley Guilt Trips Elvis
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"Thanks for always being near the top of the mountain when I needed you" : Elvis to his Daddy in 1976 ; the way Elvis introduced his Daddy during his last recorded concert is also the perfect way to confirm how important Vernon was in Elvis' eyes. How could anyone criticize someone whom Elvis loved so much and who was by his side his whole life through.
Vernon Presley was a "come day, go day" kind of guy. He was never a go getter, but he did work. He spent over a year in prison when Elvis was a little boy for writing a bad check for about $5. Vernon did it because he thought his boss cheated him. If you notice in pictures, Vernon was always in the background and silent. Gladys was the force in the family. She was a pleasant woman who enjoyed people. She did have a temper, but when she was more like the head of the household rather than Vernon. Gladys and Elvis had a strong bond. He, like Gladys, was personable and generous. Vernon always worried about money. Vernon once said he never saw a guitar player worth a damn. Elvis resented his father marrying again so soon after his mother's passing. This is why Elvis bought Vernon a house by Graceland because he didn't want Vernon's nee wife sleeping in his mom's bedroom, which is totally understandable. The worst thing about Vernon is, he never stepped in as a father to help Elvis with addiction to pills. He knew what was happening and did NOTHING. That's what I think of Vernon.
I think that Vernon was some what brainwashed by Parker. I also think that Vernon was just lashing out at Elvis and that Vernon loved Elvis very much and was doing the best he could for Elvis. Thank you so much Steve. Good show!
Yes to all you e said, however Vernon was a weak man that could never support them. He is why She worried with Elvis over functioning to provide.
She not only worried she’d lose him in the army, but beside that, non of them knew if it was the end of Elvis career. Can you image if it was, how she felt having to depend on Vernin again. Not that her focus was money, but Vernons actions had put her through so much misery. After prison, and he started working he got fired for selling moon shine out of his work truck. They moved to Memphis not long after that. His reputation in Tupelo was complet Ruined then.
A very sad topic. It's no wonder Elvis felt so alone deep inside. There seemed to be noone in his life who he was able to open up to after Gladys, and was capable to support him, guide him, and whom he respected an trusted.We have many reasons to cry and mourn over him and his life. But what a legacy he still was able to leave us!
elvis loved his parents!!! if you ever wonder why God blessed elvis he honored both parents!! that's in God's Word!! when elvis started singing early on he would write out checks to his parents and tell them to buy whatever they want but he called them "his babies" and tell them he send them more money... he is the one who gave them the money to buy a house and both parents saw graceland and elvis gave them the money what a good son!!
Poor Elvis!! To have to hear your father blaming you for the early death of your mother, must have been absolutely awful!
We are given a path to walk in life, Elvis walked his the best he could. No way did he ever want to hurt anybody purposely, let alone his beloved mother.
Great callers and good show Steve!
I agree with you. I personally think Vernan Presley was out of line.
Vernon was elvis father and should have done more to help his son , it was difficult for vernon having a famous son and not wanting press to find out how bad a condition his son was in , butnits about do you want him to live or die , he should of helped him and maybe he would of lived longer
@@elvisrevisited personally I think it was difficult for anyone who was around Elvis, for many factors. Too much going on and too much to lose.
About Vernon I keep in mind the poem Elvis gave to his father and the epitaph chosen by Vernon for Elvis grave. Vernon carefully kept Graceland the way it was after Elvis' death, was touring with Elvis, went to Germany with him and worried about his son's generosity and the way some people could take advantage of him. He was mainly the Daddy who said to the young unkown Elvis that he would help him to follow his dream.
I had to leave the live chat early, unfortunately, but let me weigh in on why Vernon was so important to the whole Elvis story.
I’ll bypass the given which is that the father has a huge impact on a child’s development. We all know that. Vernon was allergic to work. Gladys did the heavy lifting on the money earning. When Vernon was sent to jail for forging a check, Elvis was only around three years old. This is a crucial age for a child when he normally would be going through a developmental stage called separation/individuation from his mother , meaning he learns he and mama are not one person. (Babies until this age believe just the opposite). When Vernon went to prison, Elvis missed this stage and he became more fused with Gladys. As time went on and Elvis got older, even after Vernon got out of prison, it became clear that Elvis and Gladys were the defining couple of the household. Vernon was basically the unruly child. He also cheated repeated on Gladys and was physically abusive. Elvis became his mother’s protector. This created, and I believe, was the HUGE force behind Elvis’s tremendous drive to succeed - - he had to compensate for his father’s less than stellar role as husband and breadwinner. He was driven to make sure Gladys got everything she deserved that Vernon never gave her. The downside of this, however, the over-bonding with Gladys, was also a big factor in why Elvis could not sustain a monogamous, longterm relationship with a woman. I also think Vernon failed to give Elvis any real fathering when he was going through his drug and health and career struggles. (As Jackie Kahane once said, Vernon was not a rocket scientist. ) So Vernon,IMHO, changed pretty much the entire trajectory of his son’s life. These are a few of the many reasons Vernon is so crucial to the Elvis story.
I agree with your comment. I too think that Elvis got the force to succeed in life because of his family background. Even the poverty factor was what gave him the force to carry on even when he couldn't!
I think the thing and only thing that drove elvis to stardom was his love of music and wanting to be a singer
@@elvisrevisited I think Elvis wanted to give his mother everything that Vernon never did. And God gave Elvis that opportunity through that marvelous voice and charismatic soul of his.
@@elvisrevisited certainly a big factor, but that alone does not create the drive to get there. Look at the bios of every great artist.
Elvis knew Vernon had never worked and never would. He used to tell people “daddy’s had a backache for thirty years.” Also, Vernon was caught bootlegging whiskey in Tupelo by the sheriff who had arrested him for forgery. The sheriff told Vernon he was tired of dealing with him and if he knew what was good for him he’d pack his belongings and leave Tupelo. They did leave Tupelo…that night! Elvis had lots of reason to not respect Vernon. He did beat Gladys, he cheated on her, and caused them to have to leave town in the middle of the night with basically nothing but their clothes. Elvis had such a big heart he eventually forgave Vernon obviously. Family meant everything to Elvis. I’m talking “blood relatives.” I believe if Elvis had lived longer he’d have even forgiven Red and the other two for writing the book. He did forgive Jerry Schilling for having an affair with Prissy while they were still married. A year after the affair Jerry was back at Graceland. Elvis just loved people…period. His generosity was unmatched even to this day.
Everyone wslked on eggshells around Elvis , elvis was very sensitive and could explode at any time . As been told by all around him , in his defence he was under alot of pressure
I agree 100% he was under an enormous amount of pressure!
Elvis forever!! 💖 a 💖 😊🙏🏻🙏🏻💖👏👏thankil.
And what Ever Vernon was doing was between him and Elvis and surely he wasn't using Elvis because the ones that was didn't get to stay they had to go Elvis didn't keep them around
i am struck by what some of his original Mafia guys said in an interview. That Elvis did try to call his mother every day sometimes more than once when on the Road. They said that one reason he called her was that his father was known to have struck her when he got mad. Elvis was actually afraid to leave her for long periods of time without checking in. I believe that might have been Lemar who said that.
Elvis was never going to accept anyone who married his father , he dearly loved his mother even thow they had terrible arguments, they both had a temper but loved each other very much
Vernon was known to assault Gladys, he was known to be very lazy when it came to work and Marty lacker said he was a bigot. On top of that Vernon was known to hook up with Elvis' leftovers on the road. Great role model.......
All I can say is men will be men.
Women are a temptation for them, even "leftovers" as you say!
Elvis was no role model on how to treat women apart from lavishing them with expensive gifts
I think Vernon just lashed out from pain and stress. We have all heard of stories when a woman is in labor she will lash out at her husband and often say terrible things. I think that is what happened with Vernon.
I don't think any of us have the whole Vernon, Gladys, and Elvis story. It has been hidden for years. Read the books by Gary Lindberg: Letters from Elvis, and The Roots of Elvis. Who knows what happened almost 90 years ago. Parker covered up so much over the years. And, probably blackmailed the whole family during the career of Elvis. That is why Elvis had to obey Parker.
Really interesting and topics. I was always told that he and his brother Vester were really hard workers! Thanks Steve some of the jokes made me laugh!
The family overall has been great!
Vernon was definitely not known for his work ethic
Parker did not handle any financial affairs of Presley. Vernon wasn’t the right man. And the colonel had Vernon wrapped around his little finger. And Gladys never trusted the Colonel at all, that was also a huge worry on her. Elvis was too young to sign when the colonel moved in.
Vernon was uneducated and never able to support them. He is the one who worried Gladys unmercifully by forging a check, going to prison. She lost her home, was homeless, dependent on relatives with a toddler and no means of support. Then once Vernon was out of prison and got a job, he got fired for another bone head idea; “selling moon shine out of the back of his work truck”. They moved to Memphis not long after as Vernon’s reputation was completely ruined after that in Tupelo. Prison for forgery and then selling illegal moon shine out of his work truck after prison time ??? She worried as Elvis “in her mine was over working for them all”. He was determined to provide for his mother. And she knew it. once Elvis was drafted she worried for his safety. And think about it; none of them knew if his career would be over. Gladys wasn’t focused on the money by all means, but can you put yourself in her place, if his career was over they’d be dependent on Vernon again. Elvis said in one interview after his mom was gone, his dad was worried he have to do stup labor again digging ditches. And that bill the colonel produced was not real. It was just more extortion. He was trying to cover his gambling depths. But Vernon was easily scared by lies, manipulated and scammed.
I’m certain Elvis knew this. And if his health had held out I believe he’d have been able to get rid of the colonel. But the guilt his dad heaped on him even larger this time did hurt him deeply. I’ve been there as the provider with a dead beat husband, who would not ever step up even as my health was failing due to over functioning out the “you know what” for everyone. No drugs involved, my body gave out working in the fast lane as the only provider, after 24 years operating in corporate America on high adrenaline mode, “was not drug induced”, result of being necessary in the job and as no one else would lift a finger. I was 42 years old and had functioned in the fast land 24 years none stop. Corporate demands are unending, and they own you. You can’t even take the time to take your vacation in the American environment. Elvis had been asking about taking time to go somewhere even like a monastery for spiritual renewal. Many now embrace the reformation. Elvis kept saying his mom had something special from church. He was desperate to seek spiritual renewal. But the ones who lived with him, saw they’d loose so they called in Parker, who KNEW he’d loose. Elvis was only a commodity to them. All about a meal ticket, every one of them. When you’ve enable ones for years they do not have any compassion for you. They only turn to blame as they lose out.
Elvis was wrong for enabling them all. But he was in the fast lane and it’s hard to see and change directions unless you stop. They would let him stop. And done of these dudes like Red smithed yo
Manipulating his meds. Drawing some out of the capsule saying to help him. But if it didn’t put him to sleep he’d have to take more. Then his dependence only increases. And threat of accidental overdose.
If his mom had lived I believe we’d seen a much difference Picture.
Elvis could not continue to hold them all up. The colonel and Vegas pushed for three shows a night because Parker needed to keep up with his growing gambling debt.
I saw that Vernon was very weak and always heaped a guilt trip on Elvis after Gladys was gone. He did like wise when he remarried. He blamed Elvis for worrying his mom to death so he had to remarry. Never once acknowledging he himself worried her to death by not providing and making one bone head decision after another & getting into trouble for them. And he as he blamed he never showed real gratitude for Elvis providing. Not only providing but way over the top.
happy late birthday Dillan
Why is it important to get anyone view on Vernon Presley.?
Because he was his father and lived with him practically all of his life?!
@jamesmcdermott2444 Because he was an integral part of the Elvis story
Let all the Presley family be at peace.
We all know Elvis Story.
Don't need anymore gossip and harm to them.
God said peace be with you 🙏 ❤️ and that included all families.
@@jamesmcdermott2444 But, where is the truth?
According to memphis mafia accounts his arguments with his mother was far worse , like a dark cloud assending , i think i recall one saying elvis said god damm it mother i can never please you , as for vernon having lots of women elvis had much more and was never Faithfull to any of them , this has nothing to do with stardom and his success, elvis was a very complex person , of course he was talented and very good looking but complex , vernon was from a different generation from elvis and its not to say he did not want to loose lifestyle, maybe he was concerned about his sons money and his son throwing it away , but 100 per cent he knew elvis was very unwell and should of got his son professional help
I have done a lot of “research” and reading on Vernon Presley. In my opinion based on the content of numerous accounts, Vernon was a zero in all of his life roles, husband, father, personal manager for Elvis. He was also of low education and as a result a very ignorant man who poorly self evaluated himself if he did at all. I guess to be blunt but honest, I think he was pathetic.
I think so too, he was terrified of becoming poor again.
It's harsh to say the man was pathetic, don't think elvis would have accepted anyone saying that about his father
It has been said that Billy was the one who wrongfully took the photo of Elvis in his coffin and then sold it to a tabloid. If that is true, plus other things may have been said or done to make Vernon wish to disconnect from Billy. I wasn't there, so I cannot say. I feel like Vernon thought more of Parker's opinion instead of Elvis' opinion. Elvis should have been encouraged to invest money in top stocks. He could have toured the world, as he so wanted, sat back and retired for life. He wanted to travel and be a serious actor. He was held back. Elvis was mistreated as a cash cow comodity, not as the very human man. Hi, from the state of Florida, in the U.S. of A.
it has been revealed that it wasn't Billy Smith that took the photo but Billy Mann which was also Elvis' s cousin
@@vickiworthington4673 sorry
@@vickiworthington4673
Exact!!!!!!!😊
It was Billy Mann, another cousin who took that photo.
Yes thire is no reason elvis should not have been as wealthy as say the beatles , I know the beatles wrote thire songs but thire money was better invested
Vernon was the best father he could be he was doing his best put into a very difficult position of managing his finances
Elvis was nebmver going to make the money he spent doing another tour , his shows did not earn him that much money with what he had to pay out , unfortunstely elvis had no interest in money only spending it , it should of been invested better , not sure who's fault that is , we hear stories he only had do much little money at time of death , vernon had a right to worry about Elvis spending , but at end of day it was elvis money , prisilla has more money than elvis had in his lifetime and many artist less talented have more money too, its invested better
Different times!!
Hi steve
Did not hear the full show , it seems vernon said something to Elvis about his heart attack , how do we know he said this , is it billy smith
Billy allegedly
OK, great show Steve
i didnt know that vernon had affairs while married to gladys... wow like father like son... but yes vernon stuck it out with his small family at any time he could have left but he stood there with them which makes him a good father though no one is perfect not even me he may have told elvis things out of frustration!! idnt elvis do that to priscilla?
I don't think he raised his
hands against Priscilla...
Vernon did against his wife...
@@ertagortan5367 I dont know that either but she has said he threw chairs at her and once said he gave her a blackeye
when they were pillow fighting maybe he didnt mean to hit her hard with pillow but it did cause her eye to get swollen.
Elvis was very protective of his family. ultimate elvis channel?? WTF !!! he would be mad. some channels speak ill of his dad, of his ex wife. nonsense ! any one who follow such trash is NOT an Elvis fan for sure
Thank you for your comment and opinion.
Thanks for stopping by.
There is no point in me addressing the points you made as you have already made up your mind about me and the channel.
I would however suggest you check out other videos I have posted on the channel such as the interviews I have done with people from the Elvis world.
It might give you a better balanced view of myself and the channel
we all know billy smith has a big chip on his shoulder about Vernon so anything he says I would take with a large pinch of salt, also we know billy is a liar, dont forget it was billy who started the rumour that Elvis did not die and billy was very proud of what he called his joke, when Elvis first died billy accused Vernon of ripping pages out of Elvis's will cause billy was sure Elvis would have left him thousands, when someone told him ripping pages out of a will was impossible then he said that there was another will which Vernon must of destroyed, this just shows not only how greedy billy smith is but how he resented Vernon, billy was alos fired from Graceland because a visitor recorded him being racist, so why anyone would believe a word billy say about Vernon when he clearly has an axe to grind is beyond me, and yes Elvis being drafted did hasten Gladys death, but it was more the fact that parker got it deferred for months so Elvis could finish King Creole, giving Gladyd extra time to hit the bottle and wreck her liver, which I am sure Vernon knew so he would blame that situation, not Elvis, Vernon lived for Elvis they were as close as any father and son could be, Elvis knew he could trust his father, I think billy was jealous, billy also complains in the MMs book that heleft the railraod to work for Elvis and lost his pension and Elvis didnt pay him enough, this is after according to billy, after not seeing Elvis for two years Elvis phoned billy and begged him to come and work for him, Elvis bought a doublewidth mobile home for billy and his family to live in, so billy had not out goings to pay for Elvis paid for everything yet he is still bitter that Elvis didnt pay him enough, and he lost his railroad pension to go work for Elvis who then a couple of years later died, like Elvis died on purpose just to spite billy, before believing anything billy says you have to take all of this into consideration.
Are you sure?😮
yes very sure, billy talks about a lot of it on his yt channel@@ertagortan5367
WOW... Sure Seems like you have A "Big Chip" on Your Shoulder! It Appears You Have NO Idea What You're Talking About!!
@@fibrowarrior6360right? That’s NOT what I see when I watch Billy and Jo’s channel. Billy loved Elvis, and still does. It hurts him deeply even now to have to talk about when Elvis died. And if Billy talks about Vernon, he should know what he is talking about. That’s his uncle after all.