Unarmed Knife Defense... NOPE.
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2023
- A good reminder that seems to make sense theoretically may fall apart under enough pressure...
The video I'm responding to:
"6 Martial Arts Experts Locked with a Knife Attacker!" by Martial Arts Journey
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Self-defense is serious, yet it often seems downplayed and underestimated. Especially when it comes to defending yourself unarmed against an attacker armed with a knife (or other weapon). It's a huge disadvantage, and what can you do to deter a reckless, aggressive rush when all you can threaten to retaliate with are your hands and feet?
Kudos to Rokas Leo, Jeff Chan, Icy Mike, Sensei Seth, Ramsey Dewey, and Matt Clinton for stepping up and taking this difficult challenge. It's an insightful reality-check for sure.
The video I made about medieval sources on self-defense against a dagger (mind the disclaimer):
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as a guy who regularly attacks people using knives i have to admit this video is very true and helpful
Thanks for taking a look at USDC and sharing a realistic perspective about knife defense! A lot of people in the comments said: "you should have kept more distance!", but as you said there's only so much distance you can keep in a closed environment for 20 seconds!
23 years ago on the TTC (toronto subway), I saw 2 men fighting, one with a knife. The unarmed guy took his sweater off and used it to tangle up the knife (he used it like a matador would use a cape to taunt a bull - when the guy slashed at him, he interposed his removed sweater like a blanket into the blade's path. The knife cut into the sweater, but also got caught in it for a couple seconds, long enough for the other guy to jump on him and knock him out with a few punches). The unarmed guy was clearly a trained fighter, amateur or otherwise.. but in the panic of the assault, it was fascinating to see that little trick work.
I used to practice martial arts. There are a number of techniques for defending yourself from a knife-wielding opponent while unarmed, but the most important technique that you should always use first in that situation is: don't fight a knife-wielding opponent while unarmed.
I've been attacked by somebody with a knife. It was the scariest moment of my life. Got away with two stab wounds, both were minor, fortunately. I got lucky because the guy attacking me was overweight and out of shape and ran out of breath after a short while. I was able to push him and he fell and then he got subdued by bystanders.
As Sensei Seth's Editor, it's fun to see you react to this. Been watching you since like, what? 2014? Good stuff.
One thing I heard from a police officer is that when you have to defend against a knife, it's not a matter of IF you get stabbed, but how many times you get stabbed. It's really one of the worst situations to be in.
I survived a knife attack unarmed. Suffered only 1 stab wound to my arm. The reason I survived was because I had two friends close by who helped me subdue the attacker
They're doing it all wrong. One guy almost tried the correct technique, trying to get behind the shoulder. But he didn't control the knifer while behind his shoulder. Another guy basically accidentally got there, and still totally failed to control his opponent and use his body as a shield.
Box cutter in grappling is dangerous af.
Just a thought: I think we should have a societal standard that
Reminds me of Fairbairn and Applegate's WW2-era expert advice on hand-to-hand combat for the Commandos, the SOE assassins and other elite fighters: The first rule on fighting an attacker armed with a knife was "If you have a gun, shoot him.". It then went down the list of other techniques, including using your own knife and using all sorts of improvised weapons ( a steel pot helmet works as both a buckler and a dandy club when swung by the chinstrap with verve and desperation). As far as they were concerned, fighting completely unarmed was scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel. And if you had to, you fought dirty -- recommended techniques included things like eye-gouging if you got an opening.
Speaking as someone who has been stabbed (on two separate occasions) this video seems to confirm what i've previously thought: i'm still alive partly because by luck both wounds were in non-vital locations, and secondly because my attackers were not committing at all like the ones in the video. I'm pretty sure one my my attackers went into shock once he actually got me... while i went berserk at my flesh wound. Next thing i remember is beating him into the gravel with my fists until he seemed incapable of standing up. He'd dropped his knife, but if he'd kept hold of it and stabbed a few more times i'm quite certain i'd be dead.
I know a flawless knife defense for a martial artist. So they pull a knife, first thing you do is back up, then you move your hand towards your waist, this is essential. Then (this is the most important step.) you pull out your conceal carry and shoot them.
I have a few things to say.
Marine Corps knife training when I was in, unarmed vs a knife, you go for an arm break.
I've been in a situation like that (sort of) while working as a security guard. Thief pulled a blade while we were in a closed room. Lucky for me we were already grappling standing up and I managed to get behind him and keep control of his wrist with both hands and twisted the hell out of it. He dropped the blade and I kept him standing up and held the blade under my foot while waiting for the police to arrive (they were called before hand). In the end the damage was 11 tiny cuts on my trousers that didn't go all the way through the fabric. I was lucky that the starting situation was in my favor.
Just for you to know: a good number of people proposed your name as a partecipant for the second season of this challenge :) it would be cool seeing HEMAists in it!
This is almost certainly just down to how knives are like one of the most common weapons used in most violent crime, the whole world over (just as a result of how literally every kitchen has knives) - but seeing people full-contact spar in simulated knife defence situations gives me chills sometimes. No other situation does that to me. I think it also has something to do with how insanely fast people can be with knives and the shear amount of damage minor movements can do.
My fencing instructor spent a few classes teaching us about knife defense. Most of what he taught us had us wielding our own knives for one but there were three big takeaways I had from it: