WOULD YOU SHARE IT OR STEAL IT? - The Evolution of Trust

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  • @LadybugsOpin
    @LadybugsOpin Před 5 lety +865

    I was raised to be an "always cooperate" and then those who made me like that betrayed me. I slowly became a "copykitten" and then a "copycat" and now its ended on me being a "grudger"... I just don't have the heart to become "always cheat" because there are a select few people that I do still trust. Though, they're few and far between.

    • @sgrizzo48
      @sgrizzo48 Před 5 lety +43

      i'm sorry to hear that, some people are not very nice sadly

    • @obamashand4911
      @obamashand4911 Před 5 lety +15

      Do you live in river dale?

    • @MacDaniboi
      @MacDaniboi Před 5 lety +21

      I'm at the copykitten stage right now.

    • @blue9139
      @blue9139 Před 5 lety +9

      I am copycat but sometimes i cheat and sometimes i switch to grudger and aometimes i co operate.

    • @drawer1386
      @drawer1386 Před 5 lety +5

      @@MacDaniboi same

  • @leonvandenakker6041
    @leonvandenakker6041 Před 5 lety +2480

    Anyone: tries to be nice but makes a mistake
    Copycat: *ASCENDED*

    • @-bebwnlasnaga-
      @-bebwnlasnaga- Před 5 lety +16

      LOL So true.

    • @interopsty
      @interopsty Před 5 lety +10

      XD and second comment I’m gonna edit this
      Maybe

    • @user-gt7jk3lt4t
      @user-gt7jk3lt4t Před 5 lety +8

      that is why i am right saying fuck you(no offense, kidding have a nice day)

    • @chaoschaos1726
      @chaoschaos1726 Před 5 lety +4

      🐈

    • @k4rz43
      @k4rz43 Před 5 lety +57

      Anyone: Co-operate
      Copykitten: I sleep
      Anyone: Cheat
      Copykitten: REAL SHIT
      Anyone: Cheat again
      Copykitten: *ASCENDED*

  • @apatheticdeity6030
    @apatheticdeity6030 Před 5 lety +301

    I think in wartime we start to trust our enemies is because you know they are going through the same thing as you, separated from your family, superiors screaming in your ears, your friends dying in front of you as you still continue to fight. So when the pope said that there should be a break in war for Christmas, everyone thought of it as a dream. Of course the superiors didn't agree, but you did. All it took was one man to step out with that Christmas dream in hand. A lot of times in history all it takes is one man with a dream to change things, even the bad.

    • @yuvrajshah1158
      @yuvrajshah1158 Před 5 lety +15

      The Christmas truce of 1916 was unique.
      In 1917 it wouldn’t happen. Anyone who tried to make a truce was court martialed.
      The allies and central powers ordered artillery to fire 24 hours during Christmas.
      The soldiers had experienced gas attacks and flamethrowers.
      German airships were bombing London.
      And most of the soldiers who started the truce a year ago had been killed.

    • @evilbadger34
      @evilbadger34 Před 5 lety +3

      Yep, it's called empathy.

  • @airlinefood333
    @airlinefood333 Před 5 lety +1233

    This should go under education instead of gaming

  • @thereprehensible435
    @thereprehensible435 Před 6 lety +1739

    I'm a "Grudger". I give everything I have, but if someone crosses me, I'll never give them another damned thing.

    • @ManipulateHavoc
      @ManipulateHavoc Před 6 lety +11

      What then

    • @balrogdahomie
      @balrogdahomie Před 5 lety +234

      Do you also have a Cowboy hat
      This is clearly an important question

    • @kudrrrr
      @kudrrrr Před 5 lety +48

      People tell me not to hold a grudge. *too bad. illI hold a grudge against yOuR wIlL*

    • @louisstgermain8864
      @louisstgermain8864 Před 5 lety +49

      Im a copykitten, but with a twisted Grudger side. A little one. Little big huge one. Your neck is exposed...

    • @xxzaniac_maniacxxgaming1189
      @xxzaniac_maniacxxgaming1189 Před 5 lety +11

      Yeah, It's quite common. It's called Payback.

  • @keithkarenwitterstaetter3443

    Imagine how scared the first person to exit the trenches was in the war story

    • @skiller5034
      @skiller5034 Před 3 lety +16

      They would've been determined enough not to be scared.
      If you would be scared to do it, you wouldn't be *the first.*

    • @pendelbembel
      @pendelbembel Před rokem +14

      @@skiller5034 Fear is universal. The power to overcome it and do it anyway, that's rare. We call it courage.

  • @raymondfandinola1653
    @raymondfandinola1653 Před 5 lety +2978

    The lesson: *DON’T TRUST PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT HATS*

    • @Emil-gl7rm
      @Emil-gl7rm Před 5 lety +101

      Isn't that how the Americans feel about the Mexicans? :p

    • @zodiac6163
      @zodiac6163 Před 5 lety +105

      That's hatism

    • @dirtking5993
      @dirtking5993 Před 5 lety +14

      LOL

    • @scp1095
      @scp1095 Před 5 lety +42

      No don't trust people with tophats😐😶😶😶 RIGHT!!!!!!!!

    • @vol10O000
      @vol10O000 Před 5 lety +55

      Tf2: *TRUST PEOPLE WITH COOL HATS*

  • @johncargille7722
    @johncargille7722 Před 5 lety +911

    I will never forgive you for taking advantage of always cooperate T_T

    • @kidskers6771
      @kidskers6771 Před 5 lety +77

      Oh you grudger...

    • @adamtaurus7840
      @adamtaurus7840 Před 5 lety +5

      It's just a game

    • @starcre9338
      @starcre9338 Před 5 lety +21

      Cobalt- brawl stars and gacha life but it’s not, is it?
      It’s much more like real life than you think.

    • @chocodono2146
      @chocodono2146 Před 5 lety +4

      Que sal screaming I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU!

    • @The_eggiest_dog
      @The_eggiest_dog Před 5 lety +6

      Cobalt- brawl stars and gacha life r/whooooosh

  • @Me-cm5ql
    @Me-cm5ql Před 5 lety +297

    and yes, the Christmas truce of 1914 did happen, they started on Christmas eve and stoped at new years, Manny of them killing there knew found friends, more tears than blood was shed

    • @cheesestyx945
      @cheesestyx945 Před 5 lety +12

      Doubtful bullets make people pretty bloody and humans can only cry so much

    • @burnforburn
      @burnforburn Před 5 lety +10

      Kim Emmerich Oh fuck off

    • @orochi7714
      @orochi7714 Před 5 lety +4

      Now that's just depressing to hear, if I were one of those soldiers and made friends with the enemy I would not pick up my gun in a gunfight.

    • @pickleproductions5736
      @pickleproductions5736 Před 4 lety +4

      @@cheesestyx945 that was a horrible thing to say.

    • @cheesestyx945
      @cheesestyx945 Před 4 lety +6

      @@pickleproductions5736 just trying to lighten up the situation

  • @lmaobox4068
    @lmaobox4068 Před 5 lety +385

    1999: the world is full of equally split groups
    2004: a war breaks out between grudgers and always cheats
    2012: the place is desolate with only a few survivors
    2018: the world has been taken over by copycats all the remeaning few other disappeared the world is doomed as we know it

    • @3OrMoreBones
      @3OrMoreBones Před 5 lety +14

      *Made in China*

    • @RaySpartan315
      @RaySpartan315 Před 5 lety +12

      *Copycat inherits the Earth*

    • @Atamosk-bu7zt
      @Atamosk-bu7zt Před 5 lety +6

      yeah that's not going to happen with the state of the world... i'm from the future and it's not quite that way anymore.

    • @archiveaccount4335
      @archiveaccount4335 Před 5 lety +2

      2018 is a shitshow

    • @shaggy515
      @shaggy515 Před 5 lety +3

      @@Atamosk-bu7zt Lol Same, 2019 , If Not Then Idk What You Mean

  • @rockincradilyyyy8489
    @rockincradilyyyy8489 Před 5 lety +278

    23:08 the reason it says different to what happened is cus YOU FORGOT TO CHANGE IT

  • @clownintraining5944
    @clownintraining5944 Před 4 lety +42

    "You either die trusting, or live long enough to see yourself become untrusting."

  • @a-drewg1716
    @a-drewg1716 Před 7 lety +326

    I think the reason we trust our enemies in wartime more then our friends in piece time is because during war the people are the opposing sides are more predictable. They both are there fighting for what they believe in. You can trust that when you see them they are going to shoot you. Then comes the point that when you are fighting for a extended amount of time you get to know each other better then most friends would. While in peacetime your friend could be secretly and slowly stabbing you in the back. They are much more unpredictable. It is much easier to trust someone who holds a gun to your face then someone who is your friend in your face but holds a knife to your back.

  • @Merayu0
    @Merayu0 Před 7 lety +656

    23:07 CopyCat won because you were meant to change it from +2\+2 to +1\+1, but you left it as +2\+2.
    Ps. Sorry for bad english.(fixed)

    • @ShaddyWoohooMan
      @ShaddyWoohooMan Před 7 lety +22

      Your English was perfect actually.

    • @diamando7932
      @diamando7932 Před 7 lety +25

      Not perfect, were not where and meant not ment

    • @ShaddyWoohooMan
      @ShaddyWoohooMan Před 7 lety +22

      Ok not perfect lol. At least we can read it

    • @jbdragonfire
      @jbdragonfire Před 7 lety +1

      But Copycat would still win even with +1/+1 as the game said, because it's still a win/win condition

    • @kstudioz5405
      @kstudioz5405 Před 7 lety +11

      It actually +2/+1

  • @SuperSaiyaman3
    @SuperSaiyaman3 Před 5 lety +110

    5:40 *how dare u make such a trusting soul sad*
    *you should be ashamed of yourself*
    *dishonor on you, dishonor on your cow, dishonor on your whole family*

  • @annispatz.
    @annispatz. Před 5 lety +93

    It's a really interesting view on society today and the trust-mechanic. Because it really does work that way. There are those different types of "Players" and the inclusion of "mistakes" is really important and extremely fascinating to see. The effects all of this has on our day to day life is gigantic.
    We can all learn from this.

  • @zane_sadauskis
    @zane_sadauskis Před 7 lety +267

    I found this game to be amazing but then I look in the comment section of this video and it looks like some people did not learn from it and that is sad

    • @D.KlWA-aG
      @D.KlWA-aG Před 7 lety +5

      Zane Sadauskis I did now I can tell prod I play with to say it's was just a mistake live and let live

    • @leetptato
      @leetptato Před 7 lety +5

      this is the only comment somewhat related to the game i found

    • @habibakhalil300
      @habibakhalil300 Před 7 lety

      BRA YOU CHINESES OR JAPAN?

    • @buddyb0i091
      @buddyb0i091 Před 6 lety

      Zane Sadauskis yes u cheat I cheat u r cooperative I am cooperative

  • @user-cj1yh8uc1q
    @user-cj1yh8uc1q Před 5 lety +72

    Moral: Never trust a man with a bowler hat.

  • @Quantumact2908
    @Quantumact2908 Před 7 lety +105

    This is a different type of game. Not your normal do so and so and this'll happen. It has a very big lesson. And that lesson is: trust is easy to break but hard to fix. Or something like that

    • @goodgenes0
      @goodgenes0 Před 5 lety +8

      So trust is like a vase

    • @asdfgyjhvj7881
      @asdfgyjhvj7881 Před 5 lety +1

      Angry Duck trust is like glass, easy to break and hard to make

  • @ninenoodles5323
    @ninenoodles5323 Před 7 lety +401

    Hey, this is by Nicky Case, the same guy who made "We Become What We Behold." It's more of an experience, whereas this is more like an experiment, but it's also a portrayal of human nature, the media, and politics. You should definitely make a video on it.

    • @elizabethhuang8450
      @elizabethhuang8450 Před 7 lety +12

      Kai Blahnik Oh, that's why the style looked exactly the same! Don't know how Matt would play WBWWB though, since as you put it, it's more of an experience than anything and Matt is a fairly interactive commentator.

    • @justinmarkrivera5092
      @justinmarkrivera5092 Před 7 lety

      Kai Blahnik if you understood it enough both of them crosses.

    • @TheLisamae
      @TheLisamae Před 7 lety +2

      I was thinking it was by him because of the art style of this...I KNEW ITTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111

    • @streetyjr3423
      @streetyjr3423 Před 7 lety

      Justin Mark Rivera ...

    • @raspberrytaegi
      @raspberrytaegi Před 7 lety

      RealMartialNova No they aren't, they use any pronouns and purposely made their name gender neutral. The game is about them coming out as bisexual.

  • @grimAuxillatrix
    @grimAuxillatrix Před 5 lety +172

    Random: exists
    The world revolving begins playing

  • @randomdude2724
    @randomdude2724 Před 7 lety +254

    Who tf disliked this video? This is a life lesson for crying out loud! Thanks Matt for playing this philosophical game and help teach us new and important things!

    • @anthonyg7798
      @anthonyg7798 Před 7 lety +11

      its called a dislike bot

    • @thepinkbunnyempire1027
      @thepinkbunnyempire1027 Před 7 lety +10

      Dude please don't complain about dislikes. It's just normal haters. It's really self explanatory.

    • @eunhyeokjee2611
      @eunhyeokjee2611 Před 7 lety +3

      Its dem dislike bots man. From the haters.

    • @camoregrowred2429
      @camoregrowred2429 Před 7 lety +1

      GamingMonster, they are probs like, I DONT WANA LEARN MATT!!! DISLIKE BITCH. I WANT GAMES, GAMES GAME GAMES. those are dislikers on life lesson utube vids

    • @tinysatanbubbles4887
      @tinysatanbubbles4887 Před 7 lety +4

      GamingMonster he should play more games like this it was fun and cool to watch i liked it and it taught a leason

  • @feartheghus
    @feartheghus Před 6 lety +324

    I propose another team with a different ai than all these players
    Predators, or pack hunters
    The ai works like this:
    Predator, or P chooses steal first, if the other player, or O chooses cooperate P locks in steal and will always steal for the rest of the rounds with that O.
    If the O chooses steal P chooses cooperate, if in that second round the other player chose steal again the P chooses steal and locks it in for the rest of the rounds
    If player chooses steal in the first round, P chooses cooperate in the second round (as shown above) if the player also chooses cooperate second round the P chooses cooperate for every round unless the O ever steals again, if O steals again P will lock in always steal as its choice.
    Here is why predators work like this, they are pack hunters but are aggressive against all other teams, they will start by stealing and if the other starts with coop they can’t be a predator and are instead the enemy to be hunted and the predator locks in steal like always steal does.
    If you choose steal first round you are either an always steal or a predator ally, so he cooperates to check if you are good or bad, if you steal again you’re an always steal and he locks in steal to fight you. If you choose cooperate the second round and steal for the first round you’ve proven that you’re an allied predator and both players cooperate.
    This ai does not lock in always cooperate because real players can steal later and prove to be an enemy and not a fellow predator.
    This team is made to be a lot like always steals, except that they cooperate with their teammates which gives them a huge advantage over always steals. Always steals are the best choice individually but when played for groups they fail to continueally outcompete the others because they can’t cooperate and so the more players that are always steals the less prey there are to steal from while cooperates can team up to gain more points overall.
    The predator fixes this by finding allies and stealing from enemies

    • @kajetanzyla5972
      @kajetanzyla5972 Před 6 lety +6

      So its similar to the one with the yellow hat

    • @Dreamheart101
      @Dreamheart101 Před 6 lety +13

      26
      Well, it didn't too terrible against Copycat, Always Cheat, Always Cooperate, Grudger, and Detective
      *CopyCat:* +3 = -1 (5 Rounds)
      Cheat = Cooperate
      +3 = -1
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Total Score: 3
      *Always Cheats:* -1 = 0 (4 Rounds)
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Cooperate = Cheat
      -1 = 0
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Total Score: 2
      *Always Cooperate:* +12 = -4 (4 Rounds)
      Cheat = Cooperate
      +3 = -1
      Cheat = Cooperate
      +3 = -1
      Cheat = Cooperate
      +3 = -1
      Cheat = Cooperate
      +3 = -1
      Total Score: 14
      *Grudger:* +3 = -1
      Cheat = Cooperate
      +3 = -1
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Total Score: 17
      *Detective:* +9 = -3
      Cheat = Cooperate
      +3 = -1
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Cheat = Cooperate
      +3 = -1
      Cheat = Cooperate
      +3 = -1
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Total Score: 26
      Though, I can't help but wonder if it's a similar principle of Detective only in a reverse order
      Detective VS Detective:
      Cooperate = Cooperate
      +2 = +2
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Cooperate = Cooperate
      +2 = +2
      Cooperate = Cooperate
      +2 = +2
      Cooperate = Cooperate
      +2 = +2
      Cooperate = Cooperate
      +2 = +2
      Cooperate = Cooperate
      +2 = +2
      +12 = +12
      Predator VS Predator:
      Cheat = Cheat
      0 = 0
      Cooperate = Cooperate
      +2 = +2
      Cooperate = Cooperate
      +2 = +2
      Cooperate = Cooperate
      +2 = +2
      Cooperate = Cooperate
      +2 = +2
      Cooperate = Cooperate
      +2 = +2
      Cooperate = Cooperate
      +2 = +2
      +12 = +12
      For Detective, after the 4th round, if the player has not cheated the detective will keep cheating.
      That'd never happen against another detective, as they would both cheat once. This results in them cooperating. If one of them were to cheat, the other would copycat them, preventing as much cooperation.
      For predators to cooperate, both must cheat in the first round and cooperate in the second. After that, it goes on unless one of them cheats.
      It seems like Predators are a better-accustomed, stronger version of Detectives.
      Anyhow, now you know the scores of Predators to the original 5 opponents.

    • @an_annoying_cat
      @an_annoying_cat Před 5 lety +2

      Bob Johnson there should also be a version of the grudger that eventually forgives and goes back to cooperating

    • @an_annoying_cat
      @an_annoying_cat Před 5 lety +3

      Bob Johnson so predators are like aggressive copycats; they win if they are with each other

    • @taritznova9192
      @taritznova9192 Před 5 lety +3

      Man you thought hard about this you should go ask the developers about this they may make a second game or update this game

  • @swanihilator6748
    @swanihilator6748 Před 5 lety +56

    Mistakes: *Exist.*
    Copycats: It's free real estate.

  • @reddeath812
    @reddeath812 Před 7 lety +41

    I love thought experiments, especially ones revolving around altruism and how helping each other can benefit everyone and how altruism spreads and bad memes (memes are basically anything spread by non-genetic means mainly by imitation) are eliminated while good ones prosper, this is also the reason I love books like the selfish gene (and Richard Dawkins) these things are really interesting and I love Matts input.

    • @deadisdead445
      @deadisdead445 Před 6 lety

      reddeath you're like,the only guy I know that knows the true meaning of the word ”meme”!

    • @CaptainDecimus
      @CaptainDecimus Před 6 lety

      Or every single person who's watched LeMinO's video on memes...

  • @jackjack2113
    @jackjack2113 Před 7 lety +732

    "Before you tell a tale of revenge, dig two graves"

    • @twinkiecat.5794
      @twinkiecat.5794 Před 7 lety +18

      Some Dunce for my two balls?

    • @jackjack2113
      @jackjack2113 Před 7 lety +48

      Crazed Mythical Titan Cat for your two egos.

    • @siltdoctor3478
      @siltdoctor3478 Před 7 lety

      Some Dunce hat

    • @qwt
      @qwt Před 6 lety +19

      How is this possible I got this video notification 3 MONTHS
      later

    • @noyz-anything
      @noyz-anything Před 6 lety +6

      Yes. One for your enemy, one for his ghost.

  • @Raybro16
    @Raybro16 Před 6 lety +48

    As much as this game is informational, there is one tiny but glaring issue; Humans are unpredictable. Humans more often times than not have theor own self interests in mind, which can vary from person to person. some people are generous, others are greedy. some cooperate, others compete. you can't easily tell what a persons intentions are at a glance, and there are people who use that to their advantage.
    to REALLY knock the message down the park, i have a simple solution; Make the game an online game. you and someone else on the internet play the game of trust and study how people behave and react. you could probably add so many factors into it (players receive titles for their actions and playstyles like "cheater", "detective", "copycat" and so on, have chat systems for communication during rounds, or thousands of other things in the game) to see how they can influence people.
    thats ny idea, anyway

    • @zoltzarati6421
      @zoltzarati6421 Před 5 lety +2

      🤨
      THAT WOULD BE AMAZING 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @catisnotadog9256
      @catisnotadog9256 Před 4 lety

      Not reading all this

    • @jacobmarshall5391
      @jacobmarshall5391 Před 4 lety

      dog why not you lazy fuck.

  • @Haystees
    @Haystees Před 6 lety +9

    i want an actual multiplayer version of this where you can play with your friends and see if you can trust them.

  • @hko2006
    @hko2006 Před 6 lety +28

    16:46 Seeing all cheat dominating and the pitiful numbers generated by cheating each other, made me think of the dysfunctioning regions in the world.

  • @runningfridge8318
    @runningfridge8318 Před 5 lety +71

    What if I don't even trust myself?

    • @MoonAirN
      @MoonAirN Před 5 lety +10

      You might be more inclined to do the opposite of what you actually instinctively want to do.
      @those are certainly all words c':

    • @cassowaryking3372
      @cassowaryking3372 Před 5 lety +6

      Isn't someone trying to catch you

    • @gabriel300010
      @gabriel300010 Před 5 lety +2

      yhen you coin flip

    • @manthespoon
      @manthespoon Před 4 lety

      Omg this guy named TheLuckyBallofPoop keeps copying me is seriously dont trust him

    • @manthespoon
      @manthespoon Před 4 lety

      Omg this guy named TheLuckyBallofPoop keeps copying me is seriously dont trust him

  • @emeryshye9920
    @emeryshye9920 Před 7 lety +341

    Amazing video Matt! These thought experiments amazingly interesting and I still just can't believe how you practically summed up my thoughts on politics at the end. Glad to see you having genuine fun and interest in your content. Keep up the great work!
    PS: If you think about it CZcams is Non-zero sum game. You build a relationship with subscribers, we both win when you make good content and like your videos, and hopefully we all communicate well.

    • @zedmiasma7304
      @zedmiasma7304 Před 7 lety +6

      Emery W. well that's not true. Keep in mind monetization. Matt cant make whatever content he wants because if he does, there's a chance he gets no money. No money means no videos. No videos means you get nothing and have nothing to give to. So if you were to remove the pay check from CZcams, Matt and 90% of the popular youtubers wouldn't be here. Yes some youtubers actually like making videos but if they have nothing to gain then they don't have a reason to be here. Do you really think computers are expensive? Do you really think 800$ worth of "needed" equipment is actually needed? It's not. None of it is. So in a way, many youtubers are the "Always Cheat" in this game of youtube, many youtubers do charity things but no one ever stops to think that those people aren't giving much to the charity from their own pockets, and they also get double, possibly even triple or quadruple the amount because of the views. They gain and gain and gain but give nothing back to anyone.
      And no giving videos doesn't count. Making videos is fun and in most cases if not all cases they're having fun with every video they make. They aren't losing anything.
      It's such a simple concept if you open your eyes and realize not everyone is as genuine as they say or even think. Matt might love making videos, but if the pay checks stop coming there's an extremely high chance he'll stop uploading until eventually he's inactive for months then eventually years. Do you think Beyoncé gives anything back to anyone? Pewdiepie is loaded, does he actually give back a fair share of the free money he gets? No. He doesn't. 5% isn't a good enough percentage to justify getting tons of money just for sitting in front of a camera for an hour and barely giving anything. Cowbelly for example gives money from his own pockets PLUS almost all the money that gets donated. He doesn't even have a green screen, no sound or lighting equipment and a "ok" computer that honestly would have frame issues running most pc games. Bringing people together for a good cause is great and all but it doesn't mean anything if you're sitting back and letting everyone else boost your image when you're pretty much a soft core grinch. Actions speak louder than words, dyed hair isn't one of those actions. Coloring your hair is a luxury. No one ever realizes how selfish they are until it's bluntly smashed into their face.

    • @gl1tchyg4m3r3
      @gl1tchyg4m3r3 Před 7 lety +4

      Emery W. How is this Comment not Top Comment or Pinned yet?

    • @einarnordboden8881
      @einarnordboden8881 Před 7 lety

      Zed Miasma wow, did you really take ur time writing all that time saying something that just proves human nature. If u were that successful u wouldn't give away all of it either. Besides if all those famous people (that yes indeed made money from it) hadn't done it the money would never have gone to charity and probably to a cheeseburger or something.

    • @zedmiasma7304
      @zedmiasma7304 Před 7 lety +1

      Hejdet Ärjag I would actually. And I'm a fast typer, didn't take long

    • @darkfyy
      @darkfyy Před 7 lety

      Explain jake Paul

  • @archlane5366
    @archlane5366 Před 6 lety +839

    But hey, that's just a theory. A *GAME THEORY!*

  • @aaz5525
    @aaz5525 Před 5 lety +6

    “Isn’t making friends with your enemies defeating them?” -???

  • @drawnsneke3513
    @drawnsneke3513 Před 7 lety +5

    Look at trust in it's natural habit. It has evolved in many ways. It has left some country in peaces. But some still need to achieve a pet of trust.

  • @felixroux
    @felixroux Před 4 lety +9

    Sign: Please leave the bathroom the way you'd want to find it.
    Me: *Covers the bathroom with $100 notes*

  • @qualitynonsense8194
    @qualitynonsense8194 Před 5 lety +11

    The ‘live and let live’ strategy has worked great in school games

  • @Deadlocked.
    @Deadlocked. Před 7 lety +13

    Could you guys just have constructive comments? This is a video where opinions and communication would be fun to read, so please, just type something that's not spam.

  • @annmaeri1591
    @annmaeri1591 Před 7 lety +266

    Wow this game is inspirational and educational, it's really making me think about things in a new light I'm going to try to act more like a copykitten when I usually am a copycat

    • @sammym2511
      @sammym2511 Před 7 lety +15

      Same, except I act like Grudger with the sort of people who are:
      1) Super Trendy
      2) Use profanity
      3) Predominately hate me (for some reason)
      4)Judge things by how old they are ("My fav song is Viva la vida!" "Ewwwwwww it sux" "Why?" "....cause it's old, obviously?")

    • @seiphiifaie3158
      @seiphiifaie3158 Před 7 lety +4

      for me, this reaffirmed what i already believe. people make mistakes, I've certainly made plenty, so I just assume best intent. I assume their intentions are good, until I can no longer justify that assumption logically (like the two mistakes in a row thing copykittens do) it's nice to see normal people taking the same thing to heart though. I had to learn it through a hard life, being abused, and making the mistake of abusing others when i was in a bad situation, it was the mistakes, and abuse of others that allowed me to shed my naivete, and my own mistakes, as bad as they were, to realize that people make mistakes, and even those with good intentions, can do bad things. I don't know if those lessons can be fully absorbed by simply paying attention to this game, but it would certainly be nice if others didn't have to go through the hell I did, to learn to be a copykitten.

    • @plutopowidk8443
      @plutopowidk8443 Před 6 lety +2

      im a random

    • @k4ndiii
      @k4ndiii Před 6 lety

      Hi

    • @OliSW
      @OliSW Před 6 lety +1

      Copykitten here too

  • @FlaminChicken231
    @FlaminChicken231 Před 5 lety +8

    "when they play with each other, they do okay"
    -MattShea

  • @Mani-md1ir
    @Mani-md1ir Před 7 lety +117

    Thanks Matt for playing this game now that I see what's happening I can apologize to a person that used to be my best friend but because of the mistake we aren't friends anymore so thank you

    • @Mani-md1ir
      @Mani-md1ir Před 7 lety +1

      Please like the comment so Matt can see my thanks

    • @Mani-md1ir
      @Mani-md1ir Před 7 lety +9

      Please play more of these kind of games I like it when games open my eyes

    • @TheMattShea
      @TheMattShea  Před 7 lety +38

      You're welcome!

    • @habibakhalil300
      @habibakhalil300 Před 7 lety

      SO I GUSS YOU COPYCAT not kitten

    • @andreasfagna2010
      @andreasfagna2010 Před 7 lety +1

      This right here is why I am (basicaly) a Copykitten ;)
      Just keep it in mind that we are only human, and mistakes are common (sadly), so you should be a bit thoughtfull about it, like for example be a bit more forgiving, or in this case, a Copykitten ;)

  • @TheHadMatters
    @TheHadMatters Před 6 lety +27

    You're pretty imprecise at 17:20. It's not just that the Always-Cheats are against the Copycats who are stronger than them, it's mainly that they are up against too many of their own character, and they get absolutely nothing from each other (While also not getting a lot from the Copycat).

  • @mockemperor953
    @mockemperor953 Před 5 lety +23

    11:39 in fact they did play football (not American if you're American it would be soccer)

    • @wiseraccoon1822
      @wiseraccoon1822 Před 3 lety

      Yes being from England I learned about it
      Not what they used for the ball

  • @marthaallen1435
    @marthaallen1435 Před 7 lety +123

    Matt.. I absolutely love this! I was actually learning something. You were teaching me something that will benefit me as an adult.😊

    • @zeroworries
      @zeroworries Před 7 lety +3

      Absolutely agree

    • @unova3557
      @unova3557 Před 6 lety

      martha allen yes

    • @janglejingle5937
      @janglejingle5937 Před 6 lety

      But... he wasn't even the one who is /teaching/ this, it's the game developer?

    • @tealeafmissiles
      @tealeafmissiles Před 6 lety

      Coolbloxxie
      yes lets give nicky case some appreciation

  • @jeanstanley4120
    @jeanstanley4120 Před 6 lety +9

    "THEY CAN PLAY WITH EACH OTHER!"
    -Mattshea 2017

  • @luckillease8907
    @luckillease8907 Před 5 lety +18

    Okay CZcams, I watched it. You can stop now.

  • @izzy1221
    @izzy1221 Před 7 lety +62

    This is the coolest thing! I love stuff like this. I always trust Matt to post good content!
    Until he doesn't of course....
    **sharpens knife**

    • @D.KlWA-aG
      @D.KlWA-aG Před 7 lety +8

      Isagail but what if it was a mistake!?

    • @learoherrera5886
      @learoherrera5886 Před 7 lety +7

      Ahh... A 'Grudger'.

    • @NoArtisticLimitation
      @NoArtisticLimitation Před 7 lety +3

      *throws a pink hat on my head* DONT END ME
      (Sorry I had to)

    • @apgames8881
      @apgames8881 Před 7 lety +4

      Well *puts light blue hat* I will trust Matt first time maybe he had bad day or something happened but if he fails second time in row then there will be trouble.

    • @popsikul4992
      @popsikul4992 Před 7 lety

      (Puts on wig and small hat)
      Just sitting here, don't mind me.

  • @oferransenberg5291
    @oferransenberg5291 Před 7 lety +551

    Who learned something in this video?

  • @diamonddude081streams9
    @diamonddude081streams9 Před 5 lety +27

    "I think *game theory* can help explain"
    Me: **calls MatPat**

  • @ahouranouri516
    @ahouranouri516 Před 5 lety +48

    i was once a *Always Cooperate* But because i lost alots of thing i became a *CopyKitten* though i wont become worse then that

    • @Mysteriofreeflying
      @Mysteriofreeflying Před 5 lety +2

      Same

    • @qtulhoo
      @qtulhoo Před 5 lety +1

      Than, not then.

    • @Mysteriofreeflying
      @Mysteriofreeflying Před 5 lety +4

      @TheCzheng sorry to say it but always cheating won't get you very far people are not stupid soon you would just get caught however some people learn to detect when someone's lying or not and once they find out the truth no one will ever trust you so by the end of it cheaters will just end up in the dumps with no body but themselves.

    • @Mysteriofreeflying
      @Mysteriofreeflying Před 5 lety +4

      @TheCzheng whatever bro you can be a cheat and I'll be a copykitten let's see who gets further in life curse I sure as hell wouldn't want to be on my own

    • @sus4644
      @sus4644 Před 4 lety

      @@Mysteriofreeflying "always lying wont work"
      Dude do you live under a rock? Everyone nowadays lies constantly.

  • @dragondxx3902
    @dragondxx3902 Před 4 lety +7

    This game actually changed my perspective on life, thanks Matt.

  • @jacobbetancourt5602
    @jacobbetancourt5602 Před 3 lety +3

    i have been searching for this game for a year, just to play it again

  • @deppressedpigeon5266
    @deppressedpigeon5266 Před 7 lety +4

    In war you fight against each other and grow closer because you fight the same people if they haven't been killed and find outs things like there strengths and weaknesses and who there loved ones are almost as if your best friends

    • @Kanjejou
      @Kanjejou Před 5 lety

      If you communicate with your ennemies, which was common because soldiers were commons peoples in ww1 ww2... seing how modern commons soldiers are trained it is a lot less common nowadays.

  • @lostspirits5787
    @lostspirits5787 Před 5 lety +10

    The thing with the truce is true btw. I live in Germany and we learned about it in history class.

  • @halloeverybodhi613
    @halloeverybodhi613 Před 3 lety

    Its like the saying "keep your friends close and your enemies closer"
    You know what your enemies do but not what your friends will do

  • @josephwodarczyk977
    @josephwodarczyk977 Před 7 lety +22

    On the subject of the Christmas war story, the next day was incredibly awkward and resulted in both armies being swapped out of the battle.

    • @raspberrytaegi
      @raspberrytaegi Před 7 lety

      JOSEPH WODARCZYK :( and THAT'S how you foster the evolution of distrust, alright

    • @sfc0450
      @sfc0450 Před 6 lety +4

      It makes sense though, because I couldn't bring myself to kill someone I just spent Christmas with. Granted, I couldn't bring myself to kill _anyone_ , but that's besides the point.

  • @dreamdev_yt3339
    @dreamdev_yt3339 Před 3 lety +3

    so i saw one of your videos on the side of the screen and my computer screen is small enough that the title said "i broke everything on earth so i went to SPAC..." and i laughed so hard lmao.

  • @ardynizunia9709
    @ardynizunia9709 Před 5 lety +9

    "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
    The game actually used that quote incorrectly. The copycats did not use that logic. The always cooperate used that logic. They always treated you good because they would want others to treat them good. The copycats approach would rather be something like.
    "Approach others nicely. Treat others like they treat you."
    Start by cooperating but after that, if they cheat you, cheat them. If they cooperate, keep cooperating.

    • @davidbarroso1960
      @davidbarroso1960 Před 4 lety +4

      If I fucked someone over, I would want them to cheat me back. So therefore as a copycat, I would be doing unto others as I would have them do unto me.

    • @Megmegmegananan
      @Megmegmegananan Před 4 lety +2

      @@davidbarroso1960 yeah, i agree here. if i fucked someone over, id understand and even expect to be fucked over in return. if someone fucked me over, yeah, id return the favor.

  • @artisarthur
    @artisarthur Před 7 lety +11

    I LOVE THIS GAME! PLEASE DO MORE GAMES LIKE THESE!

  • @thecityshanker8913
    @thecityshanker8913 Před 4 lety +3

    Trust, the thing I’ve been trying to gain back from my family for a long time
    Don’t be like me people, don’t lie at minimum 5 times a day during all your childhood and 4/5 of your teenage years
    Not even my teachers trusted me, which caused me to get in trouble for BEING bullied because they thought I was lying about it and that I was the bully
    I regularly cheated whenever possible, i stole, i attacked people, and yes I was a bully but I was my bully’s bully, I always gained at other people’s expense
    Karma is a bitch people

  • @stupidityofme7248
    @stupidityofme7248 Před 5 lety +1

    I'm either a grudger or a copykitten, I grudge a lot, and.. sometimes I forgive people, as it can just be a mistake.

  • @loganleamy9778
    @loganleamy9778 Před 7 lety +22

    Actually this is super cool video, made me think alot! You should do more vids like this! Like so Matt can see!

  • @borkbitch8184
    @borkbitch8184 Před 7 lety +42

    i love these type of games , food for thought

  • @mollyOS420
    @mollyOS420 Před 6 lety

    The first part was adorable because like
    its just.. TRUST.
    Trust the entire way.

  • @UserdVidas
    @UserdVidas Před 5 lety +17

    Someone:Sends out a meme
    All the copycats: send out memes
    Oh so that's why we're doomed.
    Totally didn't notice that this video was a couple of months old ...

  • @syfico
    @syfico Před 6 lety +3

    Huh, felt like 10 mins. Time flies when you're having a good time!

  • @annabababooey
    @annabababooey Před 5 lety +1

    My English teacher made us play this game to learn about trust. Thank your Mr. Wheeler, you are the best.

  • @afriendofafriend5766
    @afriendofafriend5766 Před 5 lety +4

    I think the reason for the Christmas game was because the soldiers didn't actually want to kill each other, their governments did.

  • @cry_stain
    @cry_stain Před 7 lety +4

    That was so cool. It's really opened my eyes about trust and mistakes.

  • @DeepTalksPodcast777
    @DeepTalksPodcast777 Před 2 lety

    The first game scenario reminds me of the old saying you fool me once, you fool me twice... Then there's no fooling me a third time. Letting someone betray your trust after a second chance is allowing that behavior to form in the way they treat you. So setting a boundary is good for both yours and their health.

  • @Dolphinjamm
    @Dolphinjamm Před 5 lety +12

    I'm Between Grudger and Copycat.

  • @shedeguia
    @shedeguia Před 7 lety +4

    This is by far the most educating video Matt did and surprisingly, he didnt swear!!! WOW

    • @Mega-Brick
      @Mega-Brick Před 6 lety

      +FendronP
      Studies have proven the brain processes swear words in a separate part of the brain than other words(which is why those with Tourettes sometimes have problems with swearing while their regular speech is affected) - this, logically, means swear words _do_ affect people differently than other words.
      Plus - it's an odd form of cynism and self-control - we set these "principles" by defining these words that are "bad' and "different" than "regular" words - but still we break those principles and swear anyway.
      We teach children not to swear - then we do it anyway. Why? Why do we not _practice_ the self-control that we teach, and continue to teach, to younger people? Strong principles can develop stronger character in a person. Sensitivity to certain subjects is a _good_ trait to have.

  • @Merp_a_Derp
    @Merp_a_Derp Před 6 lety

    It's like texting "lol". It could be a genuine "oh, that was funny", or it could be a "I know you said something, but I don't really care all too much". Sometimes you can tell, but other times, it's impossible to, so you can't always trust that it's the former.

  • @fandothefox3647
    @fandothefox3647 Před 7 lety +18

    Moral of the story?
    Be a copycat

    • @arkell7763
      @arkell7763 Před 6 lety +6

      Moral of the story?
      Be a copycat

    • @askindale4943
      @askindale4943 Před 6 lety +1

      @Arkell That is by far the most intelligent thing i've seen all week good job :) made me smile

    • @Zodiacman16
      @Zodiacman16 Před 6 lety +6

      Be a copykitten, otherwise you would never forgive mistakes

    • @timothye.2902
      @timothye.2902 Před 6 lety +1

      in a perfect world, be a copycat.
      In a ruthless works of cheaters, be a cheater
      In an imperfect world, be a copykitten
      In an imperfect word of altruists, be a simpleton

  • @martizong
    @martizong Před 7 lety +34

    My head hurts now... Thanks for the awesome video tho :D

  • @Frogthroat1
    @Frogthroat1 Před 5 lety +1

    I'm only at 5:24 so this info may yet come up in this one, but there was a competition to make a program that would be the most effective in this coin game. The competition got a lot of contestants, some programs being very elaborate using complicated calculations, grudge mechanics, analysing previous moves and such. But in the end the winner was also one of the most simple programs. All the program did was start the first move with cooperate and then copy the other player's previous move. So if the other player cheats at the first move, the program would cheat on the second move. If the other player cooperates on second move, the program would cooperate on third move. No grudge, no ill feelings. Simply copying the previous move by the other player. And that turned out to be the most effective method.

  • @npfeifer1675
    @npfeifer1675 Před 7 lety +27

    You didn't change the win win ratio like so he can see

  • @xkilla911
    @xkilla911 Před 5 lety +8

    ...and this game is made possible by *WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR* !!!!
    this game theory would have never develop if it weren't for World War I. WAR IS GOOOOOD!

  • @lapizgaming3133
    @lapizgaming3133 Před 6 lety

    When a person keeps cooperating with you, if you cheat but he/she still cooperates, he/she strongly trusts in you. So, you must try to get her trust.
    And not break it.
    This is how friendship...
    And trust

  • @aronren52
    @aronren52 Před 7 lety +20

    this video is very interesting and this game is very amazing wow this game just blow my mind

  • @thatoneguy9582
    @thatoneguy9582 Před 5 lety +2

    17:01
    “when they play with eachother, they do okay”

  • @LesbiansMarie
    @LesbiansMarie Před 5 lety +1

    There was one person that the game didn’t mention; the cold heart. This kind of person is what one of my best friends are, they are a person who doesn’t trust anybody, but after a long while will soon warm up to them and become a kind of advanced version of the copykitten. She understands mistakes, but if there’s way to many in a short period of time she will begin to resent the person. Close friends she is an always cooperate, but knows when to hold back and will begin to resent people close to her, so in a way she’s a mix of everything besides random and always cheat.

  • @Bobbo69
    @Bobbo69 Před 5 lety +14

    But remember
    THAT'S JUST A THEORY, A SOCIAL THEORY

  • @jamesgabor9284
    @jamesgabor9284 Před 5 lety +3

    Class: ???
    Reverses the effect of all other classes, so it can go the complete opposite (cheat becomes cooperating, and cooperation becomes cheat). After a random (3-6) rounds they will become copycats
    This is mostly to ruin classes with other classes besides themselves, just devastating others... copycat angers many others.. etc

    • @zhi1680
      @zhi1680 Před 5 lety +1

      Sounds cool but it makes no sense in real life.

  • @Tr0lliPop
    @Tr0lliPop Před 3 lety +1

    The part where you were confused:
    you were actually supposed to mess with the rewards. You did not do it, thus running the basic sim.

  • @shahidanahar
    @shahidanahar Před 7 lety +62

    Is this game why MatPat called his youtube channel Game Theory? WAS IT ALL A PUN??

    • @factblox9415
      @factblox9415 Před 6 lety +2

      It's not just a theory it's a GAME THEROY

    • @lancerralseijoinedyourpart3633
      @lancerralseijoinedyourpart3633 Před 5 lety +2

      r/wooosh

    • @rudyerickson3830
      @rudyerickson3830 Před 5 lety

      probably not

    • @an_annoying_cat
      @an_annoying_cat Před 5 lety +4

      I Like Sleep no. Game theory is an actual field of study, shown in this game. MatPat named his channel Game Theory because he wanted a clever name to show that he was doing theories about games to the simpleminded people.

    • @hardcorshik31
      @hardcorshik31 Před 5 lety

      @@an_annoying_cat whoooooooooosh

  • @incrediblepingu9266
    @incrediblepingu9266 Před 7 lety +13

    The thumbnail is super adorable :D

  • @boncarlo9391
    @boncarlo9391 Před 5 lety

    In WWII, this did happen, but the generals marched the soldiers back to the trenches in fear they would get mad at. The next year, some units tried to do the same thing again, but it didn't work. It's phenomenal how people at war can put down their guns and be sudden friends so easily... Unlike today

  • @Anthony-uw9sn
    @Anthony-uw9sn Před 7 lety +6

    If this game was about me it would be the DEeveloution of trust😂

  • @calvinpham976
    @calvinpham976 Před 4 lety +3

    26:52 my fav part

  • @jennykole6102
    @jennykole6102 Před 5 lety

    This actually visualises the prisoners dillemma: without making a deal, you have to choose to do the right thing, or to do the thing you prefer... this method is used in a lot of situations where people don't trust each other

  • @horhito419
    @horhito419 Před 7 lety +5

    Please play more duck life, I have played all 5 games and I would love it if you played them as well!
    Also keep up the good work 👍❤

    • @TheMattShea
      @TheMattShea  Před 7 lety +10

      Doing episode 2 of duck life tomorrow.

    • @horhito419
      @horhito419 Před 7 lety +3

      MattShea omg you replied! 😱😂 now I can rest in peace 😊 love your vids

  • @attackhelicopter3860
    @attackhelicopter3860 Před 7 lety +24

    in sandbox mode put 1 copycat 1copycitten 1 always cheat 1 grudger 1 detective 1 randomizer 1 simpleton and 28 cooperators than set all rules at max value... once in a while cooperators will win 0_0
    EDIT: in fact every time

  • @noodledragon6905
    @noodledragon6905 Před 6 lety

    All Cooperate is basically the person who will never hurt you, no matter what you do.
    All Cheat is like the person who will hurt you nor matter what.

  • @gaminganimators7000
    @gaminganimators7000 Před 5 lety +3

    "We're *NOT* in this together."

  • @Impossible_Fishy
    @Impossible_Fishy Před 4 lety +3

    This is my 4th time watching please make another vid about this

  • @valandes1861
    @valandes1861 Před 5 lety +1

    Lol, I got 49 "which is perfect! Congrats you have too much time on your hands. "

  • @lemonthief2534
    @lemonthief2534 Před 7 lety +6

    Matt I absolutely LOVE these types of games and it really is kinda like the real world also does this remind anybody else of we are what we behold or something like that just keep up the awesome work and you will get good things kinda like Karma do unto others as you would like to done unto you

  • @coobeeethics4856
    @coobeeethics4856 Před 4 lety +3

    I like hearing him speak so fluently on the politics these days.

  • @justagamer8019
    @justagamer8019 Před 4 lety

    He said he didn't know when it was his last round or what his score was but the two lines of writing above the machine tell him EXACTLY that.

  • @prod.phanos
    @prod.phanos Před 7 lety +5

    i am from brazil and i was searching for a good chanel and them i find that one, its so gooooooood