Isiah Thomas on why the Pistons walked off w/o shaking the Bulls' hands | EPISODE 8 | CLUB SHAY SHAY

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  • Follow Club Shay Shay on Tik Tok: sprtspod.fox/ClubShayShayTikTok... Isiah Thomas revisits the controversial moment when the Pistons got swept by the Bulls and walked off the court without shaking hands in the final moments of Game 4 of the 1991 Eastern Conference Finals. "Before the Bulls swept us, Jordan had a big press conference where he annihilates our team. The one thing that hit us hard was when he called us 'Undeserving champions,'" says Thomas.
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Komentáře • 562

  • @ClubShayShay
    @ClubShayShay  Před 3 lety +32

    What are your thoughts on the Pistons vs Bulls controversy?

    • @darnellbell4103
      @darnellbell4103 Před 3 lety +8

      I think it was disrespectful for that team to do that to the Bulls cause the bulls always shakes they hands when they lost, there’s no way around it

    • @ochoaguillermo638
      @ochoaguillermo638 Před 3 lety +10

      But then what Jordan said was disrespectful too. They are already sweeping them he just wanted to keep kicking while they were down to add the icing to the cake.

    • @shakoorr6950
      @shakoorr6950 Před 3 lety +6

      I love the show but bro. You really Hate the Jordan Bulls lol

    • @LordKingWise
      @LordKingWise Před 3 lety +5

      Isiah's Piston's turned Jordan into that Killa.

    • @kendrickmoore1274
      @kendrickmoore1274 Před 3 lety +6

      You're not being real Club Shay Shay.

  • @DJaySplitSecond
    @DJaySplitSecond Před 3 lety +104

    Nobody barks about the Celtics walking off the court but hammers the Pistons for doing the same thing? 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @badrobotNG
      @badrobotNG Před 3 lety +11

      Celtics walked of cos Detroit Pistons were too rough......Detroit Pistons walked off cos they lost.

    • @AnonymousRandomGuy006
      @AnonymousRandomGuy006 Před 3 lety +25

      @@badrobotNG 😂😂 because they were too rough? Celtics soft for that.

    • @badrobotNG
      @badrobotNG Před 3 lety +6

      @@AnonymousRandomGuy006actually rough is an understatement. Pistons were literally practicing MMA on the court. And this was against a Celtics team that was as tough as nails.

    • @ericdupree8603
      @ericdupree8603 Před 3 lety +25

      @@badrobotNG If you can't handle a little heat get out the gym, as the Celtics did. Pistons are just as much deserving champions as any other team.

    • @themansince
      @themansince Před 3 lety +6

      @@ericdupree8603 knocking dudes out on the court isn't basketball.

  • @nickmorse2277
    @nickmorse2277 Před 3 lety +77

    Joe Dumars and John Sally did shake theirs hands so to say the whole team didn’t is a right out lie💯👊

    • @alfonsogreen2722
      @alfonsogreen2722 Před 3 lety +8

      That's because they were the mild mannered 1s out of the BAD BOYS. Even though Salley was from Brooklyn

    • @micahclark8526
      @micahclark8526 Před 3 lety +5

      Dumars and salley played the game the right way salley won a championship with the bulls

    • @TWN321
      @TWN321 Před 2 lety +5

      @@micahclark8526 Bulls needed the help of several Pistons to win championships - Rodman, Salley, Edwards...

    • @micahclark8526
      @micahclark8526 Před 2 lety +7

      @@TWN321 for the second 3 peat yea

    • @TheTone37
      @TheTone37 Před 2 lety +4

      NBA was riding on Jordan's stuff. Even to keep Isiah off the Olympic team.😠

  • @dallrevenge9256
    @dallrevenge9256 Před 3 lety +55

    That look on Jordan's face when they walked past him is hilarious.

  • @mackavelimillz
    @mackavelimillz Před 3 lety +55

    Isiah Thomas is from my hometown CHICAGO, ILLINOIS....ain't nothing weak or coward about Zeke at all!!!

    • @averyt6521
      @averyt6521 Před 3 lety +2

      Exactly. Englewood here

    • @AK-74K
      @AK-74K Před 3 lety +1

      Zeke is very tough, but has a few big personality flaws. Petty, cynical, fake

    • @AK-74K
      @AK-74K Před 3 lety +1

      @J Day Jordan is a lot of things, but he is not a fake like Zeke. Don't get me wrong, as a basketball player, Zeke was one of the best to ever do it, but his personality is obvious

    • @oneyedthing
      @oneyedthing Před 2 lety +1

      You why he is tough? He is answering these questions that has been asked on a regular basis for the last 10 decades. They're trying to bring him down, but all he is doing is collecting sport networks checks and airing his side.

  • @ABrownVB63
    @ABrownVB63 Před 3 lety +24

    A true rivalry, pure in the purest sense, we don't have to get along, but we do co exist! It's why the 80s stand alone in NBA drama. "McHale and I, Bird , DJ before he passed" are friends to this day = integrity!

  • @bikingchupei2447
    @bikingchupei2447 Před 3 lety +86

    i always find it hilarious that everybody seems to call out skip's double standards on undisputed but not shannon's.

  • @derekbanks382
    @derekbanks382 Před 3 lety +22

    It’s a shame that it took this long for the truth to be shown at this magnitude with out people being bias and drunk off the shoes.

    • @ozziejones1043
      @ozziejones1043 Před 3 lety +1

      Drunk off the shoes is very well said.

    • @beazy7751
      @beazy7751 Před 2 lety +2

      They should’ve shook hands it was a punk move bump da shoes

    • @donnelladams8362
      @donnelladams8362 Před 2 lety +1

      Isiah probably thaought this was funny, but the real funny situation happened next summer in Barcelona without Isiah.

    • @younglove3362
      @younglove3362 Před rokem

      @B eazy
      I guess that makes Larry Bird 🐦 and the Celtics a bunch of punks, right?
      PS: Nobody has to shake anyone's hands ✋️ you entitled snowflake ❄️.

  • @im_an_alien196
    @im_an_alien196 Před 3 lety +45

    Remember the Bulls also thought that the Pistons were trying to purposely injure them

    • @austinroccaro2219
      @austinroccaro2219 Před 3 lety +12

      @@RICHARDHENNESSY You named 1 instance. While there are hundreds of the pistons doing worse. Couldn’t breathe on Jordan? Are u 12? They were literally cutting his legs out when he was airborne.

    • @ronniepatton7730
      @ronniepatton7730 Před 3 lety

      @@RICHARDHENNESSY They should have put him in traction he wants to dish it and people want to feel sorry for that incident please spare me he bit off more than he could chew and Cartwright wasn't having it he reaped what he sowed!

    • @2Ksensie
      @2Ksensie Před 3 lety +3

      But they were though... obviously you didn’t watch that game

    • @chriskeys778
      @chriskeys778 Před 3 lety

      The Bulls played that style too just as the rest of the NBA did in the 80s and early 90s. The Celtics created that style. The Pistons mastered it and did it better than anyone else. You take that style and mix it with the best defense and you get the champion Pistons

    • @TheLionaaa
      @TheLionaaa Před 2 lety

      They didn't think. That was the case

  • @august6281
    @august6281 Před 3 lety +43

    even as a Bulls and Pippen fan...i kind of understand Isiah's point

    • @jimmiethomas7857
      @jimmiethomas7857 Před 3 lety +5

      Isiah's point is one only one side the Celtics didn't shake their hand because they said the pistons was playing dirty and trying to injure players so like Jordan said you can't trust a danm thing coming out of isiah mouth

    • @jDiddyi
      @jDiddyi Před 3 lety

      Exactly. Can't exactly hate their reaction after getting insulted while they were already getting blown out.

    • @jimmiethomas7857
      @jimmiethomas7857 Před 3 lety

      @Dats a paddlin there's a different in playing physical and playing dirty pistons played dirty face it 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @williamsc2429
      @williamsc2429 Před 3 lety +1

      That doesn’t matter... we’re not talking about the Celtics. The bulls always walked away with class & dignity. Man, y’all trying to give them a pass. No sir... he’ll nahh

    • @williamsc2429
      @williamsc2429 Před 3 lety +1

      Celtics didn’t try to hurt you like the pistons though. Them Mf’ers we’re playing Football against the bulls. They should have been ejected for more than 1/2 of those fouls.

  • @jamesharris7556
    @jamesharris7556 Před 3 lety +38

    Isiah the best little man in nba history

    • @seantzeng1849
      @seantzeng1849 Před 2 lety +8

      Allen Iverson, Chris Paul, Tiny Archibald also up there. Isiah Thomas does have the two rings though. So I will give it to him.

    • @HakeemTheDream616
      @HakeemTheDream616 Před 2 lety +2

      Hands down!

    • @TWN321
      @TWN321 Před 2 lety +1

      No Doubt Whatsoever!

    • @bigjonah5503
      @bigjonah5503 Před 2 lety +1

      Muggsy bogues

    • @jamesharris7556
      @jamesharris7556 Před 2 lety

      @@bigjonah5503 you can't be serious

  • @mr.dawson1988
    @mr.dawson1988 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Jordan was ridiculous for calling the pistons undeserving champions. You dont get a ring without Deserving it.

  • @Wesnipes20
    @Wesnipes20 Před 3 lety +22

    IT shook Mchale hand going off the court

  • @badmansland....bitches9544
    @badmansland....bitches9544 Před 3 lety +52

    I guess not everybody is the same, Zeke. You learned that some things you shouldn’t do to some people. As we’ve seen, Mike gives zeeeeero phucks. I’d pay to see you two play 21 TOday.

    • @princssnasty
      @princssnasty Před 3 lety +16

      what exactly did isiah do to other people that wasn’t routinely commonplace in the NBA at the time?

    • @younglove3362
      @younglove3362 Před rokem

      Nothing, just another delusional Jordan fan syndrome energy.

  • @bradwatkins7564
    @bradwatkins7564 Před 2 lety +9

    Bird never shook Magic's hand or Wilkins either among others. Folks are just hypocrites. There's no right or wrong just folks looking for reasons to cheer who they want to cheer and boo who they want to boo.

    • @younglove3362
      @younglove3362 Před rokem

      In a world 🌎 where emotions override logic, you're going to find people being flip floppy and trying to Rationalize nonsense as opposed to accepting it for what it really is.

  • @MrBmick79
    @MrBmick79 Před 3 lety +3

    I’m glad someone from the media is finally talking about this

    • @younglove3362
      @younglove3362 Před rokem

      They been talking about this. It's just that indoctrinated bias delusional Jordan fans either deny it or cover it up. They hate talking to someone that knows their stuff and history because they can't win the arguments due to facts and can't manipulate the truth. So the best that they can do is cover it up. They cover it up so much that even Jordan himself is ashamed of it.

  • @SOLARGODD
    @SOLARGODD Před 3 lety +10

    They hate the Goat badly 🤣😂🤣

    • @jahleelsayers-ns3ze
      @jahleelsayers-ns3ze Před 3 lety +1

      Lebron?

    • @justusdenaro
      @justusdenaro Před 3 lety +2

      Jordan 💯

    • @SOLARGODD
      @SOLARGODD Před 3 lety +3

      @@jahleelsayers-ns3ze LBJ had a chance to be the goat until he kept losing the finals with stacked teams and the better teams at that. 😂

  • @vudujl83
    @vudujl83 Před 3 lety +9

    Shannon is reluctant to harshly criticize Isiah for walking off the court without shaking hands cause when LBJ was in Cleveland he did the same thing against Orlando in the 2009 ECF

  • @spikesingleton410
    @spikesingleton410 Před 3 lety +68

    No prob with the Celtics walking off because they were a 90% white team. The pistons were Bad Boys from a democratic state.

    • @LoveAllTrustNone
      @LoveAllTrustNone Před 3 lety +9

      Lol Massachusetts is a democratic state. It's just racist af like most democratic states usually are

    • @mjg6233
      @mjg6233 Před 3 lety +8

      @@LoveAllTrustNone yea or every state

    • @icemike1
      @icemike1 Před 3 lety +5

      @@OriginalFatCat we call like we live it

    • @mjg6233
      @mjg6233 Před 3 lety +5

      @@icemike1 exactly

    • @jetsettech8804
      @jetsettech8804 Před 3 lety +2

      @@OriginalFatCat maybe remove all of the "you're" and put "your". You're is short for you are. The fact that I had to tell you that shows your intelligence level isn't where it needs to be to discuss this topic.

  • @mrdkhall33
    @mrdkhall33 Před 3 lety +14

    Zeke is One of the best of all time and should get his respect period!

    • @darabbi360
      @darabbi360 Před 3 lety +1

      Great player but a poor sportsman!!!

    • @Ali-on8dc
      @Ali-on8dc Před 3 lety +1

      Facts aside from the jordan bitterness that he has and hate he has clearly lol Zekes one of the greatest players ever

    • @finerbiner
      @finerbiner Před 2 lety

      He is probably the best small player ever to play. He deserves respect as a player but none as a man.

  • @Stonecoldalston
    @Stonecoldalston Před 3 lety +25

    One difference is the Pistons started leaving before the game was over

    • @3-methylindole730
      @3-methylindole730 Před 3 lety

      Was already OVER. 😂

    • @Scott-px6mi
      @Scott-px6mi Před 3 lety +6

      Boston did too. Go and watch it

    • @JeanDumas24601
      @JeanDumas24601 Před 3 lety +1

      The difference is that all players from the Pistons left before the game was over while 5 players from the Celtics remained on the court and finished the game, the Celtics actually had the last possession of the game. The two acts were not the same. It's the difference between doing 70mph in a 60mph zone vs doing 150mph in a 60mph zone, yes in both cases the person is speeding but one will get a much bigger fine than the other. You won't be able to argue with the judge that both should be treated the same way because both were speeding and therefore doing the same thing.

    • @bwalls696
      @bwalls696 Před 2 lety

      THANK YOU!!!!

    • @BBBYpsi
      @BBBYpsi Před 2 lety +2

      @@JeanDumas24601 Go ahead & make excuses for people. It is what people do today. They ignore the facts & go on feelings. I bet you cry watching movies to.

  • @BigtunaG
    @BigtunaG Před 3 lety +59

    Isiah side of the. story doesn't tell the complete story. The Celtics walked off because they felt the pistons were a dirty team as said by Larry Bird. They felt those guys played the game without integrity and went beyond physical and tried to injure players.

    • @johnnyblingg
      @johnnyblingg Před 3 lety +31

      So when the Celtics were clobbering the Lakers in the Finals the year before it was “dignified”?
      Hi hater 👋🏾

    • @BigtunaG
      @BigtunaG Před 3 lety +15

      @@johnnyblingg Ive never heard any laker player say the Celtics were dirty. Larry Bird in an interview says he walked off because the pistons tried to end peoples careers. Thats not being a hater im repeating what the man said. Isiah is right that he and Danny Ainge were close thats why when the Celtics are walking off you see him go back and talk to Isiah.

    • @samueltogar7846
      @samueltogar7846 Před 3 lety +6

      Not only that, I do remember McHale walking over to Isiah and dappin’ him up big time. DET walked by the bench and didn’t acknowledge them. The Bulls shook their hands after every loss. He has an excuse but it’s lame 😒.

    • @corneliusmickens110
      @corneliusmickens110 Před 3 lety +13

      @@BigtunaG James worthy said the celtics was the dirtiest team in the league not the pistons

    • @rayj1013
      @rayj1013 Před 3 lety +3

      sounds like a hater to me

  • @mouhammado.ndiaye42
    @mouhammado.ndiaye42 Před 3 lety +5

    The Celtics waited for the game to end but Pistons left the court before the game was over.

    • @younglove3362
      @younglove3362 Před rokem

      LMAO 🤣
      Can your reach be any more pathetic???????

  • @thecomediankodybean
    @thecomediankodybean Před 3 lety +13

    But he ran up on McHale for not shaking his hand lol come on now

    • @douglasreed2138
      @douglasreed2138 Před 3 lety

      Facts

    • @michaeln.2383
      @michaeln.2383 Před 3 lety +1

      It looked like Isiah and McHale were buddy, buddy. I watched that game and was a bit surprised by that scene.

  • @playlistiphone8743
    @playlistiphone8743 Před 3 lety +12

    Shannon, is that how you raise your kids?
    For someone who says he's not excusing what DET did, you certainly are placing a lot of emphasis on it.
    You should have asked him "Knowing what you did was wrong, would you have handled it different all over again?"

    • @robertbrown9886
      @robertbrown9886 Před 3 lety +3

      U don’t shake someone’s hand who delegitimized your championships and the work you put in. Jordan saying that showed zero respect so why would they give him respect. F him

  • @ridiculousnicolas2563
    @ridiculousnicolas2563 Před 3 lety +11

    Shannon really don't like jordan 😂😂

  • @jamiethomas5849
    @jamiethomas5849 Před rokem +5

    I don’t really blame Jordan for holding a grudge about that all I ask is that he owns it. He did everything he did to Isaiah after the handshake think and hid his hands and he still hides his hands to this day

    • @younglove3362
      @younglove3362 Před rokem

      He owns it. He just doesn't speak openly about it. That's why I have 50% respect for Jordan. He's over rated but doesn't deny the nonsense bs that benefited him.

  • @vincenzomauricio7090
    @vincenzomauricio7090 Před rokem +2

    This is an entirely one sided conversation. Shannon always tries to diminish Jordan in favor of Lebron and Thomas has enmity for Jordan until this very day

    • @antonioguglielmetti2661
      @antonioguglielmetti2661 Před 10 měsíci +1

      As much as I totally side with Isaiah, you're totally right about Shannon 😂😂

  • @hannibal090
    @hannibal090 Před 3 lety +50

    This is more of Shannon’s Lebron Is the goat campaign. Lol. Who can I interview to knock the luster off of Jordan being the true GOAT. Move along bro. 4 chips in 10 tries is truly a lot of losing. Don’t forget to interview Horace Grant and Craig Hodges and have a seance for Jerry Krause 😂 My gawd. Anyway bruh

    • @Shemzinho
      @Shemzinho Před 3 lety +5

      Bingo

    • @eugeniollamera771
      @eugeniollamera771 Před 3 lety +4

      I agree with Isiah about the hand shake but i couldn't agree with you more about Shannon b/s

    • @blessbymusic
      @blessbymusic Před 3 lety +1

      You serious???

    • @deshunstokelin5818
      @deshunstokelin5818 Před 3 lety +10

      STFU! Listen to what you said, "10 tries". Michael didn't make it to the finals 10 times. But I guess it's better to get bounced in the first round nine times that lose in the finals 🤣🤣

    • @L.Harris23
      @L.Harris23 Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly!!!

  • @za-jm8wf
    @za-jm8wf Před 2 lety +4

    The point is the bulls shook their hand the previous two loses but the pistons didn’t return the sportsmanship gesture.

    • @RobinXlone
      @RobinXlone Před 2 lety

      cuz they had the rules changed after complaining to the refs, how tf is that sportsmanship? the whole 80s was like dat

    • @josephparise1287
      @josephparise1287 Před rokem

      @@RobinXlone what does that have to do with shaking hands at the end of a game?

    • @RobinXlone
      @RobinXlone Před rokem +1

      @@josephparise1287 so u think someone would shake your hand after u changed up the rules so u can win?

  • @martincortes7108
    @martincortes7108 Před 3 lety +4

    Shannon why don't you invite Jordan !!

  • @Keepdapocket
    @Keepdapocket Před 3 lety +22

    The bottom line is this is a racial overtone to it. The celtics were actually called a dirty team BEFORE the emergence of the Pistons. Documentaries speak of this. The Bucks called them dirty. The Lakers called them dirty. The Sixers called them dirty. These were the major teams during the early/mid 80's, and they were considered dirty. But. Becsuse the star was white, the team was considered "hard working" and "tough players".
    I lived through it. I remember it clear as day. The bottom line is Detroit did exactly what a man is supposed to do. Jordan talked about them personally. He called them "bad people". He didn't say "bad players". He made it personal. If a man/team dusts me off, I tske my lumps and shake his hand. BUT, if a man is taking shots outside the scope of the competition and making it personal, then no I have no sportsmanship for him on bit. Jordan didn't know those dudes personally to call them "bad people". So, I see the whining baby as Jordan, not the Pistons. In my eyes, a man talks like that, I have no problem with a man handling it how he sees fit as long as no women or children are involved.

    • @austinroccaro2219
      @austinroccaro2219 Před 3 lety +3

      They were nowhere near as dirty as the pistons

    • @allenjones4118
      @allenjones4118 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah ppl seems to forget that clothesline McHale gave Kurt Rambis which changed the series, he didn't even get a technical foul let alone a ejection.... the hand shake wouldn't have been a issue if it was Charles Barkley or Patrick Ewing dethroning the Pistons

    • @captaincc2735
      @captaincc2735 Před 3 lety

      Yes definitely true.

    • @martinswede77
      @martinswede77 Před 3 lety

      It’s clear as day.

    • @Keepdapocket
      @Keepdapocket Před 3 lety +1

      @@austinroccaro2219 see, you justly proved my point by saying "they were no where near as dirty". What does that even mean. Ainge and Hastings were as dirty as they come, but they got called "tough". Maybe you're young, but the Celtics were described as bullies and dirty by other players, but they had a white face leading the NBA, so I was ok. Plain and simple.

  • @darabbi360
    @darabbi360 Před 3 lety +10

    The Torch wasn't passed but ripped from Zeke's hands😂😂😂😂Salty

    • @younglove3362
      @younglove3362 Před rokem +1

      Same happened with Jordan. Difference being that Jordan is a crybaby about it. And they like to say LeBron is a crybaby 😒

  • @darnelllewis3569
    @darnelllewis3569 Před 3 lety +40

    Shannon just don’t like Jordan

    • @batmaneatspizza
      @batmaneatspizza Před 3 lety +9

      He loves jordan, he has like 300 Air Jordans lol he just cant admit Jordan is goat over lebron

    • @douglasreed2138
      @douglasreed2138 Před 3 lety +2

      @@batmaneatspizza he like his shoes not him

    • @justinmathis7707
      @justinmathis7707 Před 3 lety +1

      @@batmaneatspizza Jordan not the goat tho

    • @yeahaight1163
      @yeahaight1163 Před 3 lety +1

      He doesn’t hate Jordan. I think he doesn’t like that people think he was perfect and can do no wrong, because they omit so many things to make Jordan perfect. Also, thinking lebron is the goat he naturally has the bias to look for flaws in Jordan. Just like Jordan fans bring up all lebrons flaws.

    • @JasonSmith-wq6cl
      @JasonSmith-wq6cl Před 3 lety

      @@justinmathis7707 says who lol

  • @JerrellXotiikClemmons
    @JerrellXotiikClemmons Před 2 lety

    Speak ISAIAH speak!!!!!!!

  • @candycheese3251
    @candycheese3251 Před 3 lety +5

    Can't spell bitter without IT.

  • @smokymcpot5917
    @smokymcpot5917 Před rokem +2

    We already know why they walked off without shaking hands, the pistons were babies.

  • @cafedelcielo3450
    @cafedelcielo3450 Před 3 lety +7

    Yeah Right, but when the Celtics walked off you went straight to Kevin so he can shake your hand.. you are a big hypocrite Isiah!!

    • @TJMoore-gd8ex
      @TJMoore-gd8ex Před 3 lety

      He is correct. The Celtics did walk off of the court without shaking the Pistons hands! Only Kevin McHale shook Isaiah Thomas' hand walking off of the court. The camera caught that instead of watching the rest of the Celtics walk off. When the Pistons walked off on the Bulls, the camera was on Isaiah and not on Joe Dumars or John Salley, who did stay and shook hands with some of the Bulls players and staff.

    • @TJMoore-gd8ex
      @TJMoore-gd8ex Před 3 lety

      He is correct. The Celtics did walk off of the court without shaking the Pistons hands! Only Kevin McHale shook Isaiah Thomas' hand walking off of the court. The camera caught that instead of watching the rest of the Celtics walk off. When the Pistons walked off on the Bulls, the camera was on Isaiah and not on Joe Dumars or John Salley, who did stay and shook hands with some of the Bulls players and staff.

  • @darnellbell4103
    @darnellbell4103 Před 3 lety +33

    Isiah Thomas is a great player but he lying too himself if he truly thinks people suppose to believe he wasn’t jealous of Jordan

    • @kendrickmoore1274
      @kendrickmoore1274 Před 3 lety +5

      Absolutely!

    • @DC4L1991
      @DC4L1991 Před 3 lety +7

      It was a story they said IT walked into his family’s house, and he seen his little nephews wearing Jordan jerseys and he didn’t like that at all

    • @miltongarces9475
      @miltongarces9475 Před 3 lety +10

      @@DC4L1991 Isiah has never been able to let go of the fact that Jordan took his hometown Chicago away from him.

    • @irepdetroitonthewestcoast1476
      @irepdetroitonthewestcoast1476 Před 2 lety +5

      @@miltongarces9475 Zeke got Detroit. He’s ok with that.

    • @CCEkeke
      @CCEkeke Před rokem

      @@irepdetroitonthewestcoast1476 Zeke definitely had issues about Jordan getting all that Chicago love.

  • @trellmix1970
    @trellmix1970 Před 3 lety +7

    At the end of the day, not shaking hands just shows poor sportsmanship. Especially at the highest level they represent.

    • @trellmix1970
      @trellmix1970 Před 3 lety

      @J Day what bird did isn't right either. So what u saying?

    • @antonioguglielmetti2661
      @antonioguglielmetti2661 Před 10 měsíci

      What's poor sportsmanship is what Jordan's mouth uttered before game 4

  • @leetraviusmckay2919
    @leetraviusmckay2919 Před 3 lety +28

    I.T.: "the Celtics made us do what they did to us what we did to the Bulls"

  • @ritchierich6133
    @ritchierich6133 Před rokem +1

    As a Jordan and Bulls fan at the time, i still think they should have shook the bulls hands, but saying that, i agree with Isiah here. What Jordan said was wrong, they were a deserving champion. Jordan was in the wrong with what he said and the pistons were in the wrong for not shaking their hands. but I do believe that if Jordan gave them more praise as the Champions they were, the Pistons probably would have shook their hands and all of this wouldn't be going on. Now i still love Jordan, he's the GOAT but he's got to let this go.

  • @jomocheatham
    @jomocheatham Před 3 lety

    This brother is cool AF.

  • @Tddj11
    @Tddj11 Před měsícem

    The Celtics did the same to us...We were Disrespected by the Bulls ..we were no one.

  • @blueside4915
    @blueside4915 Před 3 lety +27

    You definitely deserved your ring !
    I think Mike was tired of getting physically abused on the court. The game changed when he entered the scene .

    • @IknowMoreThanYou
      @IknowMoreThanYou Před 3 lety +7

      They were trying to end his career lol

    • @derekbanks382
      @derekbanks382 Před 3 lety +6

      I think mike was a spoiled brat!!

    • @ProGaming6.
      @ProGaming6. Před 3 lety +8

      @@derekbanks382 lol smh what. The pistons was playing football on a basketball court tf you mean

    • @derekbanks382
      @derekbanks382 Před 3 lety +4

      @@ProGaming6. I can tell you really don’t follow basketball,Celtics,Lakers all played that way Jordan was soft didn’t even know Zeke was preparing them to be champions.

    • @derekbanks382
      @derekbanks382 Před 3 lety +1

      @@RICHARDHENNESSY and Carl Malone!!

  • @musafawundu6718
    @musafawundu6718 Před 3 lety +4

    You and the Pistons were dominant over him and the Chicago Bulls at the time, but he went on to have a much more successful player than you and to arguably become the GOAT. FACTS.

    • @antonioguglielmetti2661
      @antonioguglielmetti2661 Před 10 měsíci

      And yet the bulls act like they'd trade their championships for that handshake 😭😭😭 cry me a river, they never got the last laugh since they whine until this day

  • @rsaggar
    @rsaggar Před 3 lety +16

    Even now he doesn't want to admit it. He followed Lambeer, BS then, BS now. No one buying it. You punch and bully a guy in the face for years, he beats you bad, you cower behind lambeer.

    • @jahleelsayers-ns3ze
      @jahleelsayers-ns3ze Před 3 lety +2

      Who cares. The Celtics didn't shake hands. What is the difference imbecile?

    • @rsaggar
      @rsaggar Před 3 lety

      Lol. Try again buddy. That's the best insult you can throw?

    • @austinroccaro2219
      @austinroccaro2219 Před 3 lety +2

      @@jahleelsayers-ns3ze obviously Isaiah cares since he keeps talking about it

  • @leetraviusmckay2919
    @leetraviusmckay2919 Před 3 lety +52

    bulls: took their 3 straight Ls from the bad boy pistons like men and shook their hands
    bad boy pistons: couldn't even take their L like men and walked off like childish petty kids

    • @kyriebailey3
      @kyriebailey3 Před 3 lety +13

      I don't see why people are you missing your point. Like read the comments people are something... The Celtics have nothing to do with it. The Bulls lost to them multiple times and showed respect but they keep using the Celtics as an excuse smh

    • @dennisking3638
      @dennisking3638 Před 3 lety +12

      Is you Dumb... Isiah Thomas said the reason why they walked off is because Michael Jordan was talking s*** about the Pistons the day before they swept them... If you talk s*** about me I'm not going to shake your hand either... So you bad mouth me and I supposed to be cool about it??? Man GTFOH With that BS

    • @ericrussell9746
      @ericrussell9746 Před 3 lety +7

      Did you pay attention to what Zeek said or you just rambling?

    • @mauricedavis1740
      @mauricedavis1740 Před 3 lety +5

      @@dennisking3638 that’s just an excuse and it doesn’t change the fact that they were classless for doing that...

    • @wilsonfamilymedia5857
      @wilsonfamilymedia5857 Před 3 lety

      And there's the truth

  • @deep5468
    @deep5468 Před 7 měsíci

    There are three sides to every story.
    1. Your side
    2. The other side
    3. The truth

  • @dnice.757
    @dnice.757 Před rokem +1

    Sharpe why dont you have jordan on your show 🤔

  • @abbichips903
    @abbichips903 Před 3 lety

    All this about shaking bloody hands !!!

  • @mandithezombiegamers155
    @mandithezombiegamers155 Před 3 lety +1

    Isaiah thomas and michael jordan need to have a sit down without cameras and hash out whatever differences they have, they are two legends and at this point it's petty for their ages to be bickering like this.

    • @slipkid1267
      @slipkid1267 Před 3 lety +1

      Never going to happen, if they meet up today they might start swinging at each other.

  • @kingsantana424
    @kingsantana424 Před 2 lety +1

    Jordan forgot to mention this in his bogus doc!!!!

  • @RaBoogie1000
    @RaBoogie1000 Před 3 lety +7

    Cmon unc...
    U was just getting on Brady 4 not shaking hands
    Jussayin

    • @justusdenaro
      @justusdenaro Před 3 lety

      He's a hypocrite

    • @desmonddavis3422
      @desmonddavis3422 Před 3 lety +2

      He clearly said I'm not excusing you for what you did lol.

    • @jDiddyi
      @jDiddyi Před 3 lety +1

      @@justusdenaro do y'all watch the whole video before you spout foolishness. Shannon clearly said he didn't condone it

  • @seantzeng1849
    @seantzeng1849 Před 2 lety +2

    Isiah Thomas out there still beefing with Michael Jordan, seeking respect he thinks he deserves. Players didn't like the Pistons because they won by physically hurting other players!

    • @YogiBear13
      @YogiBear13 Před 2 lety

      Basketball was physical back then. They won because they had Zeke, Dumars, Rodman, Laimbeer, the Microwave and played as a cohesive unit.

    • @donnelladams8362
      @donnelladams8362 Před 2 lety

      @@YogiBear13 They did try to hurt people.

    • @JoeSmith-ey2xp
      @JoeSmith-ey2xp Před 2 lety +2

      Who missed games because of the Pistons? No one. They played eastern conference basketball better than anyone else. Boston played just as rough, same for the Knicks and Bucks, as the Pistons. The reason why they became hated was not how they won but who they won against, the league poster boys Magic, Bird and Jordan.

  • @kevinjames60
    @kevinjames60 Před 3 lety +1

    Too the ppl saying Isiah said they didnt shake hands because of what Jordan said at a press conference is delusional. Isiah never mentioned that until now. Hes trying to save face because of the attentions its receiving years later. Hes always stated that they didnt shake hands because the Celtics didnt. As a Man, you cant dictate your actions based on what other Men do. Thats makes you a follower not a leader. The Bulls gave u respect after their losses, so return the favor.’. Otherwise its sour grapes everytime u speak on them

  • @montemccarty6512
    @montemccarty6512 Před 3 lety +2

    Kevin McHale told them congratulations and go beat the West.

  • @kraigwilliams5697
    @kraigwilliams5697 Před 2 lety +2

    Kevin McHale shook hands with Isaiah at the end of that game.

  • @kingromeo7328
    @kingromeo7328 Před 3 lety +16

    What the Celtics gotta do with the Bulls???? Shannon's foul for tryna condon what they did.. they was wrong...period!!!!!!

    • @corneliusmickens110
      @corneliusmickens110 Před 3 lety +5

      It was wrong what Jordan said about them you can't just jump on them for that and don't hold him accountable for what he said about them

    • @jahleelsayers-ns3ze
      @jahleelsayers-ns3ze Před 3 lety +4

      He didn't condone anything. He simply stated a fact. Nobody including u cares that the Celtics did it but the pistons do it and yall cry a river. There was no difference. If u don't care about the Celtics doing it then why do u care about the pistons doing it?

    • @vernonrobinson1685
      @vernonrobinson1685 Před 2 lety +1

      Simple.
      The Celtics didn't show respect to Detroit.
      Detroit didn't show respect to Chicago.
      Same situation but different rules.

    • @lincolnward85
      @lincolnward85 Před rokem +2

      Shannon literally said I'm not saying I condone what you did. You need to re-listen to the conversation

  • @louishawkins6955
    @louishawkins6955 Před 3 měsíci

    Did the Bulls shake your hands at the conclusion of game 7s lost by the Bulls? Yes Isaiah, they did.

  • @MrVern1234
    @MrVern1234 Před 5 měsíci

    And Isaiah being the step and fetch it guy that he is since his IU days went along with it. But yall was dapping it up when yall were winning🤔

  • @Wysewun03
    @Wysewun03 Před 3 lety +7

    Celtics walked off because they thought you played dirty. Jordan called you undeserving champs because he thought you played dirty. You were called the Bad Boy Pistons...because you played dirty. And you froze Jordan out of an All-Star game because you're petty. Now you don't have a gold medal. Jordan has two.

    • @rarerock5020
      @rarerock5020 Před 3 lety

      did the pistons and Celtics shake hands the first time the Celtics beat them in the conference finals?

    • @Sean_Walker_Sr
      @Sean_Walker_Sr Před rokem

      How can one player freeze another player out of a WHOLE all star game. You sound like a parrot, just repeating words the Jordan crazed fan boy media says

  • @chrishawks5515
    @chrishawks5515 Před 9 měsíci

    I miss the days where the Pistons, Raiders we’re teams that we hated.

  • @LoveAllTrustNone
    @LoveAllTrustNone Před 3 lety +12

    Kevin McHale shook his hand. Stop revising history Shannon & Isiah.

    • @skinnypippen9580
      @skinnypippen9580 Před 3 lety +10

      Because him and Zeke were cool! Only Mchale did it! Dumars shook the Bulls players hands! Don't miss the point!

    • @SuperIcecold94
      @SuperIcecold94 Před 3 lety +3

      One player on a whole team because he and Zeke were friends

    • @fusionn4316
      @fusionn4316 Před 3 lety +3

      That's only 1 player. What about the rest of the team?

    • @skinnypippen9580
      @skinnypippen9580 Před 3 lety +3

      @@fusionn4316 What about the Rest of the Celtics namely Larry Bird? I don't excuse Zeke's actions but be fair!

    • @fusionn4316
      @fusionn4316 Před 3 lety +4

      @@skinnypippen9580 Why are you asking me that? I literally asked the same thing you did. 😂

  • @royrichardson9164
    @royrichardson9164 Před 2 lety +1

    Now I see why some say the things they do about Isiah. Atleadt Bill Lambier doesn't try to make any bs excuse and say what it really was about.

  • @chrisdell5679
    @chrisdell5679 Před 3 lety +1

    Isiah concedes worse than Trump. You lose you congratulate the opponent. What a jerk.
    Maybe ask "What happened with CBA Isiah?"

  • @lartdevivre835
    @lartdevivre835 Před 3 lety +8

    The Bulls shook your hands the year prior Zik! And the Jordan rules was ugly to watch...

    • @aloysiushailey7954
      @aloysiushailey7954 Před 3 lety +2

      You must didn't hear Isaiah say that the Bulls had a press conference and bad mouthed the Pistons? Annnnnd Jordan did it in Detroit! How insulting, but Jordan lovers want their lord and savior's hand shook? Nah bruh he and the Bulls had that coming.

    • @aloysiushailey7954
      @aloysiushailey7954 Před 3 lety

      @OIP ! Man, boy, it whoever you are...beat it! How you gon come a month later and try and insult somebody. FOH you loser!!!

  • @tracygoodwin9893
    @tracygoodwin9893 Před 3 lety

    I hope skip saw this and hear it.

  • @nasirsykes8404
    @nasirsykes8404 Před 3 lety +3

    When u lost u left the floor.."Isiah Thomas" voice😂😂😂

  • @barackochieng9385
    @barackochieng9385 Před rokem +1

    Two of Michael Jordan haters having a discussion.

  • @SPtheGREAT
    @SPtheGREAT Před 2 lety

    I've said the same thing for years... nobody said anything about the Celtics walking 📴...

    • @younglove3362
      @younglove3362 Před rokem

      Jordan fans are delusional. What'd you expect.

  • @rowdy1197
    @rowdy1197 Před 2 lety

    Can we get micheal Jordan interview

  • @bezb715
    @bezb715 Před rokem

    “We didn’t make a big deal 😭.” Good thing Jordan didn’t let Isiah in the Olympic team.

  • @LordKingWise
    @LordKingWise Před 3 lety +1

    Isiah's Detroit Pistons eliminated Jordan 2yrs in a row. He hated Isiah and still does today.

    • @johnnyblingg
      @johnnyblingg Před 3 lety +4

      3 years in a row

    • @LordKingWise
      @LordKingWise Před 3 lety

      @Joshua Hunter Is that A 3Beat i'd hate him TOO!

    • @LordKingWise
      @LordKingWise Před 3 lety

      @@johnnyblingg That only makes it worse...lol.

  • @DC4L1991
    @DC4L1991 Před 3 lety +17

    So just because the Celtics did it to y’all that made it ok for y’all to do it to the Bulls, and Shannon you should be ashamed of yourself for trying to condone this nonsense. Regardless of how you feel when you lose you show the guys who won respect you was just hootin and hollering about Tom Brady not shaking Nick Foles hand keep that same energy bruh

    • @miltongarces9475
      @miltongarces9475 Před 3 lety +7

      We all know why he brought on Isiah. And that is to have a Jordan hatefest. Leshannon will do anything for his boo Lebron and what is one of the best ways to do that, have the biggest Jordan hater come on and hate on Mike the whole segment basically.

    • @jahleelsayers-ns3ze
      @jahleelsayers-ns3ze Před 3 lety +1

      If u don't care about the Celtics doing it then why do u care about the pistons doing it?

    • @tootiesmom6314
      @tootiesmom6314 Před 3 lety

      Yes! I agree with Shannon with 95 % of what he says but on this topic, I agree with YOU! He's being hypocritical.

    • @jDiddyi
      @jDiddyi Před 3 lety +1

      @@miltongarces9475 ironically all the Jordan stans can't even hear a topic to the contrary before getting in their feelings

    • @jDiddyi
      @jDiddyi Před 3 lety +2

      I mean if your team got insulted mid series by the other teams star player who knows exactly how everyone will take it. Y'all choosing to get mad instead of looking at it in context

  • @thetraveler9
    @thetraveler9 Před 2 lety

    Isiah is right

  • @brianhall5859
    @brianhall5859 Před 3 lety +5

    You ask him a question then answer it. Then your bring up the Celtics and they have nothing to do with the Bulls

    • @vernonrobinson1685
      @vernonrobinson1685 Před 2 lety +1

      Actually the Celtics were brought up by Shannon and yes it's relevant

  • @chadf1368
    @chadf1368 Před rokem

    Two wrongs don’t make a right

  • @brianfergus839
    @brianfergus839 Před 11 měsíci

    I watched it live and lost all respect for the Pistons, except for Sally. I feel bad for Isiah now, though… he was a really really great player but this is what we remember : (
    That was a big mistake.

  • @younglove3362
    @younglove3362 Před rokem

    And they like to say that LeBron is petty 🤣

  • @ruminator3570
    @ruminator3570 Před rokem

    Did you notice when Isiah said Michael never best both Magic and Kareem he failed to realize something. He didn't beat Magic and Kareem either. Magic was injured in the 89 Finals. Bird, Doctor J, the 81 & 86 Rockets were the only teams to beat LA legit during the 80s.

  • @VoodooApex
    @VoodooApex Před 9 měsíci

    He just said the Celtics passed it to them tho lol

  • @chrisrobinson8339
    @chrisrobinson8339 Před 3 lety +5

    I shook my opponents hands when i lost.

    • @AliasMaxx
      @AliasMaxx Před 3 lety +3

      And u been a loser ever since wimp

    • @mjg6233
      @mjg6233 Před 3 lety +1

      @@AliasMaxx 😂😂😂😂

    • @chrisrobinson8339
      @chrisrobinson8339 Před 3 lety +2

      @@AliasMaxx i didn't lose a lot but when i did. I drank dos equis.

  • @LeftEyeGod
    @LeftEyeGod Před 2 lety +6

    All this Jordan vs isiah drama boils down to was Jordan got his feelings hurt

  • @yddubbud8229
    @yddubbud8229 Před 9 měsíci

    cant believe i find out about this for the very first time though was neither a bulls nor a pistons fan. i think what the pistons did is unsportsmanlike conduct. they have always been this way so for them to act like this....not finish the game and not shake the bulls hand (with the exception of dumar) is not surprising but just plain silly. am really wondering though as this happened in 1991 and the look on mj's face says it all. was he really the reason isiah was left of the dream team?

  • @sigmalife9625
    @sigmalife9625 Před rokem +1

    Isaiah and this clown need to realize, people are watching, and see a difference between true competitors, and who's out there just trying to destroy any good players that would exposed their flaws

  • @whiteplayon
    @whiteplayon Před rokem +1

    I don't get it. Isiah is saying "don't cry about him not shaking hands," but he IS CRYING about not being picked to be on the Dream Team. For every action, there is an opposite reaction. So, if you don't want to do the time, then don't do the crime. How are you going to do something stupid, then try to dictate how people reaction to it? Isiah was a great player. Just move on man.

    • @antonioguglielmetti2661
      @antonioguglielmetti2661 Před 10 měsíci

      That's a bigger deal than a handshake 😭 dream team was a PETTY and WRONG response because of the handshake that the bulls couldn't get over

  • @kasino24k71
    @kasino24k71 Před 3 lety +2

    All Facts Zeke

  • @honestfm
    @honestfm Před 3 lety +14

    All this is sore loser talk to me. If Jordan shook your hand when you beat him, you have to shake his hand when he beats you. What the Celtics did to you has nothing to do with Jordan. So Isiah Thomas got what he deserved. Let that be a lesson to all about the importance of good sportsmanship.

    • @miguelalicea9412
      @miguelalicea9412 Před 3 lety +1

      Why he need to shake jordan hand?? Because he jordan?!

    • @honestfm
      @honestfm Před 3 lety +2

      @@miguelalicea9412 It's called good sportsmanship. Google that word if u still don't understand.

    • @crillz9660
      @crillz9660 Před 3 lety +1

      @@honestfm yea but not shaking someone’s hand doesn’t mean they’re poor sports. its not a written law in sports that in order to be a good sport, you have to shake hands

    • @honestfm
      @honestfm Před 3 lety +1

      @@crillz9660 If we can't agree on the simple fundamentals, no need to continue with this conversation at all.

    • @crillz9660
      @crillz9660 Před 3 lety +1

      @@honestfm don’t worry, i wasnt looking for a conversation. just stating that the losing does not have to shake hands to be deemed as good sports

  • @madhungry98B
    @madhungry98B Před 3 lety +11

    The real IT a 🐐 but Gary Payton my favorite PG ever

  • @quintincrum797
    @quintincrum797 Před 2 lety

    The Bad Boys are the biggest sore losers in sports history!!

  • @ricol9291
    @ricol9291 Před 3 lety +11

    What Boston did had nothing to do with what the Pistons & the Bulls went through, the Bulls shook ur hands 3 years in a row, let's just say why Mike said u were undeserving, U proved his point !

  • @larrystills6832
    @larrystills6832 Před 3 lety +6

    Cover some NEW TOPICS Shay this is old news

  • @Khmerdude99
    @Khmerdude99 Před měsícem

    That’s why Isaiah got left off the Dream Team, poor sportsmanship

  • @guledahmed9415
    @guledahmed9415 Před 3 lety +2

    Detroit beat 3years Chicago 88.89.90.

  • @chrisrobinson8339
    @chrisrobinson8339 Před 3 lety +5

    That helped you lose a gold medal.

  • @MrWilson1972
    @MrWilson1972 Před měsícem

    Hold on.......Kevin Mchale gave Zeke a SUPER HAND SHAKE after Boston lost to the Pistons, and everybody saw it. C'mon Zeke. And......Shannon is just a Jordan hater.

  • @whiteg53
    @whiteg53 Před 11 měsíci

    I hate how he was left off the Dream Team and replaced with an immigrant

  • @bradcarter5403
    @bradcarter5403 Před rokem

    Thomas always talking about Jordan lol.. Sure, people ask him to do these interviews and ask him the questions, but come on bro.. how many times do you have to mention him? You could always say you’re done answering questions you’ve already answered. 😂

  • @meandthemrs7403
    @meandthemrs7403 Před rokem

    Bill Laimbeer is what made them undeserving. The dirtiest of the dirty.