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The Liverpool to Manchester Railway. Edge hill engine station
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2022
- The Liverpool to Manchester Railway. Edge hill cutting was built by George Stephenson. The cutting is on the approach to The Crown Street station the Liverpool terminus of the Liverpool to Manchester railway. The cutting held the static steam engines that hauled railway trucks up the Wapping Tunnel. It was also adorned by the Moorish arch. George Stephenson's wonderful piece of Moorish architecture. We also take a brief look at the Crown street tunnel. This is the birthplace of the modern railways.
How can it be that we have such significant history literally under our feet ....... and be unaware of it?
The place should be a historic place of significance, recognised as such and preserved!
Martin, you do yourself (and us) proud!
Like battlefields...unlike the USA, many of these historic places are simply forgotten about and the general public are unaware of their existence.
Absolutely. What a superb visitor attraction this could be. It would be public money (levelling up) very well spent in my opinion.
Sorry Dave, didn't see your comment before I wrote mine. We couldn't agree more 👍
Not all of us are unaware of it.
@@terryhutchinson6503 Of course Terry. That's why we watch and gain such a great education. I meant further afield than those who are obviously fascinated with our history.
I am of the same outlook and feelings as you, as I was fortunate to be invited to visit this wonderful place in July 2923. In next few years It Will Have The Official Stature It Deserves!.
Should be a world heritage site, it's beautiful. Should not have been vandalised like this its such a shame. We should all be proud of this tunnel. Thanks for a fab video. ❤😊
Martin, greetings from Ireland, thanks for making my Sunday night so enjoyable.
Love the enthusiasm for history and engineering - it's great - thanks!
I’ve not long finished as a trackman , luckily I’m still in the railway industry (on the training side of the industry). I’ve pretty much worked from edge hill and all the way chat moss on various rail projects. The Chat Moss line is just one big long piece of history including many of the stations and the infrastructure along the chat moss route . Great vid again mate , always good to see you in my hometown.
It is simply amazing to make comparisons with railway engineering only five years previous. This was on such a Herculean scale!
Pretty amazing stuff, this is almost like seeing Mayan ruins from a long lost once grand civilisation being uncovered!
Thats how it felt Peter
Even more amazing if you found any in Liverpool! 😉😉
I've always loved the approach to Lime Street, especially in the summer with hanging vines and green-tinged light illuminating the mysterious ruins. The same thought as yourself regarding a lost civilisation has struck me on many an occasion so had to comment!
@@MartinZeroHi Martin if you’re ever in Liverpool again you should check out the pictures on the walls at the Childwall fiveways pub, there’s pictures showing the excavation work taking place at Edge Hill, obviously I’m sure these pictures are available elsewhere and I’m sure there are others if you know were to look.
The Liverpool to Manchester Railway also brings my Beatle-Mania to near boiling! I've been an accomplished guitar player, thanks largely to the work of the Fab 4! I remember everything from their first ever show, and I was 6 (1958)! That's enough outta me!
The maps make all the difference, great presentation...thanks mate
I'm breath taken that it all arill exists in the centre of a modern city. Such a shame that its not open to the public but makes your video all the more special. Thank you.
Martin!!! Brilliant!! Another amazing history lesson, so well put together. Such a crime that such a unique, historically important piece of British industrial architecture is being overtaken by nature, and hidden away from the public. Isn't there any way that the whole site can be cleared, stablised and then somehow made available for the public to view?? These places are integral to what made Britain a world beater. Its a complete tragedy to see our amazing history gradually crumbling into the undergrowth. Thank you Martin for bringing this history to life for us👍👍👍 keep doing what you do. Because we need someone to do this vital work.
All best wishes. Lee .
I moved to Scotland and am always amazed how many grants we get via Westminster for the most mundane projects you could imagine ,none of which are of any use . Pity some of the money couldn’t be diverted to start this project , would definitely be worth every penny
I'm sorry Lee... But you have to remember that we are no longer allowed to celebrate our past.
Indeed. On a daily basis we are told (nay, TOLD) we must apologise for our history.
Because we did it all on "slave labour".... Mmmm...
Well, my folks going back hundreds of years never made a penny out of "slave labour".
I'd be surprised if your folks did....or even very few readers on here.
Indeed, many of my forefathers were slaves to the system of the era long after the Slavery Abolition Bill.
We still had kids down mines...up chimneys.......
I wonder how many "slaves" were employed in the construction of these works depicted here..... None.
Not in the accepted sense: They were all locals. Working for a pittance. But the job got done.
For the country...... because that was how it was. We moved on.
Sadly, some folk cannot.....
Some people, like "Sir" Lenny Henry deem it necessary to remind us of the past.
Trying to make us choke on our history...whilst he can forget the atrocities of "his fellow people". Nauseating.
(Hardly surprising...given his total lack of talent in any other area.)
I will never, ever, "apologise" for my nation. To anyone. Least of all, to any hypocrite.
Sorry. I digress.
I agree.... Why is this place not showcased.....? I don't know.
The Manchester end of the line is a fine museum. First Passenger Railway Station in the World.
Take care.
@@patagualianmostly7437 You're correct about the slaves (as they worked in the plantations in the Americas & Asia), but the fact that the aristocracy exploited both slaves & the common people is unfortunately a part of history that can't be altered. In fact we should always remember the past so we can prevent those negative & painful aspects of society occurring again!
My dear brother in the Love of what the Railroad History does to BOTH of us!! Thanks to you, Martin, I got to have a religious experience as if I were there with you! It just BLOWS MY MIND as it apparently does yours! I applaud your work and I'll give you a ring here and there (so to speak) and watch for more exciting adventures!! I AM HOOKED my friend, thank you!!
Thanks very much Paul
Ive gone through this station all my life and for 4 years day to day, its a shame its been left the way it is. It was literally the start of our modern age and would be another huge tourist attractin to Liverpool
Thanks a lot for the video. I grew up in Liverpool from the age of 12. I've just spent ¼ hour studying Google maps following the line of the Wapping tunnel. It's amazing how much is still too be seen. The arches and the end by the docks, the cuttings by the docks and another two ventilation towers. There's even a newish building that's been built in two parts so it doesn't sit on the tunnel. This should be preserved and opened to the public, again thanks from South Germany.
Tunnels and Trains. Two of my most favorite topics that Martin is a master at documenting and making great videos of.
Thank you
Wonderful engineering for that times. Could they even do this today. Great video thanks
The amount of excavation of the building of the cuttings and tunnels in that sandstone was one hell of an achievement, Martin. If the cutting was completed in 1830, then it must have taken quite some time before that date, to start on the job. Just think, no heavy plant machinery or anything near that. The whole thing is a mind blower, and many thanks for producing this program with very good explanation and photos included. The steam tunnel to Edge Hill - incredible, by the way.
Even though sedimentary-sandstone is relatively soft, the navies dug it all out by pick & shovel, so quite an achievement!
Truly Astonishing
There was a gentleman who was so rich that when Liverpool fell on hard times he paid people to dig tunnels to keep employment up, there called the Williams tunnels
Amazing. For all the TV documentarys I've seen....yours is the first to fully explane that cutting area....👍
Cheers Ian
Just came across your video by accident, as a kid and adult I've taken the train from lime street to roby more times than I could count I would look out of the window at all the abandoned tunnels and infrastructure and wonder what it used to be like , I remember the old train sheds at edge hill that was a scrap yard before it was demolished years ago , thanks for the video very informative
This should be a tv series 👍
Gobsmacked and mesmerized !.......I am speechless actually... I usually wait before I watch your videos, Martin, they are so fantastic, and I am transported out of any depressive state I might be in ! Thank you for all you do ..
Thanks very much Annne, glad you find them Cheerie
Fantastic! You do yourself proud with every single video! You deserve to be on tv 😗
Thanks Charlie
Martin! You've done it! The Holy Grail.
We've all grown up looking at those drawings/paintings in the railway history books.
🚂🚃👌🚃🤯🚃👍🚃💨
Another one of Martin's Marvellously Magnificent Mind-blowing Mega-interesting Documentaries, I'm burning with curiosity and eagerly looking forward to part two ❗
This is one of those videos where there's something interesting to see in every shot
brilliant martin very educational very interesting
Wow, my tiny mind finds this architecture beyond comprehension. Liverpool sure looks interesting with all its conduits and tunnels and dungeons. It's a whole life, almost forgotten. Thanks 🌼 🤗
Looks so Amazing and Advanced for Horse and Cart Technology 🤩
If you think that's impressive then check out 'The mole of Edgehill' who excavate a rabbit warren of tunnels to give employment to the locals: czcams.com/video/DEhJ3scy3QA/video.html
Your videos are never a disappointment. All the info and backstory. Golden! Thank you from Bakersfield California USA and 40 miles from the world famous Tehachapi Loop railroad passage which I road as a passenger un 1971 just before all passenger service for this section was stopped for ever. Now it is only freight service. Google it and see all the tunnels. Thank you. 💪🏽🙏💙🐝
Thanks Katherine I will
Fascinating, should be made a world heritage site. Thanks for taking us on a historic journey 👍
Wow, and double Wow!!! Great history lesson, never expected to see this up to date view of a classic picture, brilliant. Roll,on the next vid👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤
The railways changed the world much, much, much more than the internet has. It is astonishing that the single largest invention has seen the best remains left to rot! This should be a heritage site and protected. The modern world owes its roots in large part to this site. Tragic really.
Martin and the chap’s 💪🧠🤝 sending good thoughts…..💙Nathan 🙋♂️🙏
All that worlds first railway history lying dormant and overgrown its almost a crime. Would make a world class working museum and i reckon it would be very busy too
Hello from Kansas 🇺🇸
Wow that was just fascinating to watch when you think of all the work that's gone into those tunnels and the engineering involved from back in the day. The whole site is just amazing full of History. You always find these really historical places which are a real treat to look, it's just a shame sometimes that these places aren't looked after so they don't just collapse over time and get filled in. I'm looking forward to the next episode now the walk down the tunnel.
I totally agree!
Very interesting vid Martin ,look forward to the next one ,beats anything on TV
Thanks very much Steve
Amazing, all this stuff all around, and not many people know.
I loved the video thanks Martin 👍
Railways are always cool!
Indeed they are
Began watching the Wapping Tunnel video but came here when you mentioned this one preceded it!
Fascinating look into the very early days of the railways which should be preserved as much as possible!
That steam-tunnel to Edge Hill Station explains the reason for that tunnel that runs along the rear of the boiler-caverns!
That artwork at the start is AMAZING..... "The Lost City of Petra" in Jordan came to mind, Hmmm. Martin, you are so lucky to have so much history to explore and to help keep the story alive. I would rather spend 4 days there than at Disneyland any day. George Stephenson was a amazing man. Thanks to you and your team and network rail.... Will have coffee at the ready for the next video. "Where's James?"
Disneyland....Ha ha ha... That cracked me up...big style!
@@patagualianmostly7437 I'm not joking..... "REALLY"
Industrial music by Dean www.Facebook.com/SensoryTriggered
love your choice of music Martin...especially the industrial electronic stuff. Suits your videos so well. ❤
Well done Martin, always welcome in Liverpool. Love your obvious enthusiasm for your subject. Would love to see you make other Liverpool based subjects ie some of the outstanding architecture and buildings in the city would be great.
Hi Mark... Yes, he does a brilliant job of illustrating the histories of our two fabulous cities.
(Can you tell me of any other two Cities...just 35 miles apart...that have done the same for the world?)
I watch from the other side of the world...and I love to hear his accent... from my childhood/teenage/Adult years!
So glad that you can appreciate it too. Stay well.
An excellent series of well put together, informative, interesting, well presented and cross referenced films. Thank you Martin.
Thanks very much
this was mi play ground wen i was a young lad in the 60s and 70s
Can't find the words. What an incredible explore. Brilliant. So sad that it is hidden. Its splendour gone. Felt some scenes moving especially with the music. Another first Martin. Thank you. Waiting in anticipation on your follow up.
Thanks Shirley
Fabulous Martin. It gives me a great deal of pride to say that the first proper railway was in our area the great north west of England👍👍can’t wait for the next instalment pal.
That was kinACE... Cheers...
Your videos are worth watching for the 2nd time.... thanks
Thanks Yasin
That mention of the Wollaton waggonway, that is one end, Wollaton Hall and estate, but the other end was up in Strelley village, quite literally just around the corner from me. You can still find "shadows" of it in the grounds around Strelley Hall if you know where to look. It supplied coal from the bell pit mines to Wollaton hall.
Someone needs to get some video of that! I stopped the video at that same place so I could look up the Wollaton Hall area. I know Nottingham doesn't seem to have nearly the same number of urbanex ruins that the Manchester area does, but there are *some* I have come across just in casual Google maps exploration and they don't appear to be as well documented, either. Wish we had a Martin Zero in the east Midlands.
@@alexac3098 Yeah, Nottingham has been kept fairly "tidy" in terms of old constructions, especially in and around the centre, mainly due to the city centre being quite a small area for a mid-size city. Of course we do have things like the old rail tunnels under the centre of town and also the hundreds of caves, but sadly most of those are completely inaccessible due to private ownership and bricking up. There are still plenty of old rail routes still visible if you know where to go looking.
something so historically important should be restored and preserved
I know, thats how I feel
This is part of British history. It's part of the Industrial Revolution that can be stepped into, explored and touched but not for long if left to decay. If there's anything that should be 'listed' and preserved then it's this. Great informative and educational vid.
I always find it stunning just how precise the brickwork on these things is
It's a shame though that a lot of places like these are left to rot away and be forgotten
I bet it was very tempting to go down that piped steam tunnel towards Edge Hill station.
It was Mary
You are a great story teller and you know what your talking about great stuff as always
Just brilliant. Thank you mate… 👍👍👍🙏
another great video , thanks
Fantastic Martin, industrial history at its finest on a par with the canal trap door well done bloody amazing thanks. 😊
Absolutely brilliant again Martin. Thanks.
Thankyou , I agree with you an unbelievable place , how could this colossal historical structure be forgotten.
As a child of twelve (1973) I couldn’t understand why a small station like Edge hill had so many railway lines and carriages around it .
My parents didn’t know either, my “school “ was only four miles away and adjacent to the original railway line but it was never taught.
So much lost heritage but I now hope like you that this world heritage construction has a future, imagine being able to take an electric (battery ) tram / bus from Edge hill to the docks .
There is nothing like this in the entire world.
Best wishes Steve.
Giving this video a "thumbs up" doesn't seem enough. Wonderful video!!
Thanks Ace
Absolutely amazing history! Thank you so much from Australia.
That was great Martin. A real eye-opener. It's a pity it can't be preserved as a museum with replica machinery to highlight the way it used to be. Mind you, the amount of overgrowth down there, it'll have its own little 'eco-system' to itself now. From a smokey hole to being part of the 'Lungs Of Liverpool', as it were. It's a pity it can't be managed to give Home-less folk a decent pitch in the bad weather...but that means spending money. A fantastic tour of the site and the tunnels. Thank you Network Rail for the guided access. Amazing stuff, Martin. You Keep Safe and Well. Cheers!
A truly unique and insightful video presentation of one of the great breakthroughs in the industrial revolution that changed the world. Well Done Martin & Thank You
This is fantastic. And we get a part 2. Doesn't get better than that.
I use to go down there as a kid in the mid to late 70s as I lived in edge hill
Been into Liverpool many many times through Edge Hill and didn't know those original cutting where there. I do now, cheers Martin for another eyeopener vlog.
This is one of your best videos Martin, thank you for all your research and hard work.
Fantastic video of a truly remarkable place in our history. Well done.
Cracking vid. I was alerted to your channel by Hull History Nerd, who's doing a series on watercourses in Cottingham, Hull. He describes you as 'a brave man' and he's not wrong there! I spent many years in Manchester, and have travelled between there and Liverpool by rail many times. You really do get a sense of awe, seeing the massive cuttings out of the train window.. Somehow it's even MORE amazing when it's raining, so it's amazing a helluva lot of the time! 🤣I look forward to seeing more of this fascinating and valuable content. Nice one Martin! 👍
Cheers from California , loved this !
Absolutely brilliant Martin looking at technology of the day
Oh wow! thanks so much for this , I had a lump in me throat half the time!
thank you Martin for all you hard work I love all this industrial History but sadly i'm disabled however with you efforts im able to explore these places through you channel ,
Thanks very much
Amazing what is still around from years gone by. It’s was also built to last.
Oh wow that book was published the same year I was born!
The scale of the effort to produce the cutting through solid rock is staggering when the technology of the day is considered.
FANTASTIC. Many thanks Martin.
Fascinating history! Thanks, Martin!
Another piece of good stuff. I learned a lot. Thank you.
Brilliant brilliant brilliant. Seen another video about the cutout, by "Be here", but much more fulfilling by you...
Looking very much forward to the sequel.
Indeed wonderful and amazing this still excist!! Wonderful episode also👌🏻
Should be a world heritage site or at least a scheduled monument
Its definitely a world heritage site Joy
These video's just keep getting better!
Wow great history there martin many thanks for the work you all do fantastic keep it up I love going back in time x
Martin, you have excelled yourself here. I think this is your best video yet. You are dead right. It is fascinating!!!!
Good stuff Martin can’t wait for part 2 😁🧱👍🏼
The Newtyle to Dundee railway was really early too, carrying passengers in carridges and using stationary engines to pull the carridges along. And the Wagonway in Prestonpans was really early too.
This is amazing. I wish time travel were possible
Cutting edge info many thanks for showing this 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😎👌regards fred ps I was quite emotional at the end of this vid
That was fantastic, what an amazing place
Really enjoyed that film Martin. It us much better being accompanied by Network Rail employees. It gives your films higher qudos and authority that other urban explorers who are merely tresspassing. Well done.
Brilliant and interesting as always Martin some amazing engineering 👌
I love this film - thank you!
Thanks Robert
Amazing to see a railway that had to be painted or sketched because they hadnt even invented photography back then. Where I live in Hobart Tasmania was first settled in 1804 and didnt even have any buildings, and you guys are hooning around on trains.
This is one of the best explained Video I have ever seen by a guy who loves his History Thanks so much
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it 👍
Absolutely brilliant, thank you.
Loved this. Had some knowledge of it - but yours was very informative. No James - No Brew! Sad! Missed him. LOL
Just WOW! fantastic and special.