Steg Pegz Review | Episode 289
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Over the years, a number of guys have requested for me to review the Steg Pegz. The idea is that these make it easier to grip the bike with your legs, thereby allowing you to not hold on quite so tight with your hands. This should reduce arm pump and help you be able to ride longer/faster. It would be especially good on long hill climbs. While this sounds pretty good in theory, after riding the bike for about 10 hours with these installed, I didn’t notice as much of a benefit as many other testers. One of the guys who rode my bike for about half hour, didn’t even notice they were there. that is both a good thing and a bad thing. Yes, there is some benefit in my mind, but it’s counter acted by the fact that your boots get somewhat “hung up” on them as you then do quick transitions to downhill sections. I find myself wanting to be a little more “free” on the bike to allow it to move and shift underneath me when I’m on technical stuff and the Steg Pegs can make that more difficult. This problem would be exaggerated if you ran more than one of the rubber Pegs (making them stick out even more for more grip) like I have seen some guys do.
They ran me $150 bucks, which I think is too much. On this 2017 KTM 250XC it also means that I have to take them on and off each time I change my air filter. Since this requires taking the sub frame bolt in and out every time, I’m worried that it could strip out those threads because of the pressure on them when starting the threads, with the way this works. Between the air filter problem (this wouldn’t be the case on each model of bike) and the “snagging” on my boots when doing downhill sections and other technical places, I’m probably not going to keep them on my dirt bike much longer.
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OK so I have these on my CRF450R and here is what you need to know. Use the small pucks if you are doing trail riding...they are great for up hill climbs and riding while standing up on the flat stuff...and I also used them in my last MX race and they worked perfect. They do make a large puck that should only be used during long desert type riding...like poker runs etc... literally the only downfall of these things are when you are going down hill. Even the small pucks are a little troublesome to get your boot around so that you can get in the correct position. Once you get the hang of it you can work your boot around it and actually use it to help you grip the bike with the front part of your boot. If you get arm pump during long rides these are great..if you are out of shape a bit these are great....if you are a beginner and have a hard time finding the balance point while standing up, again these are great...if you are over 40 these are awesome. If you are a cocky 20 or 30 something that hates anything that may help you ride better because you are too cool to admit that there may be something out there that actually helps someone else then don't fucking get them...or really comment on here at all because we don't need to hear how awesome and in shape you are.
I can absolutely see his point, the advantage you get doesn’t offset the risk you take if you get your boot caught in a bad position.
Well said. Thx.
I am a Cocky 5 year old. I own my Parents, they work for me.....Can I beat Eli Tomac with these things.
I'm a cocky yet unfit 20 30 year old on a 300 exc. But I love them xD
I think for 95% of riders (including myself) the SPs are a for sure upgrade and help more than they hurt. Given that the single worst trait weekend warriors like myself tend to lack, is riding standing up. these get you doing the correct thing more often. Much like the Recluse. Top riders on youtube or even Kyle here who are really trying to learn the expert level techniques or already posses them will tell you not to get the Rekluse. "it'll hold you back in the end". The assumption is, that if you dont use the Rekluse, after 20 years of riding you will have the skills and technique tor render the Rekluse/Steg Pegz, obsolete. What's funny is, all I ride with are guys that have been riding the better part of there lives; so with me with only 5 years experience, A rekluse, and steg pegz, obviously I'm slower then these guys, right? Wrong. I'm the best tight, technical, and now outright the fastest rider in my group, and I must enjoy myself the most because I want to ride the most. Forget these guys comments about it being a "crutch". Cause so is a grippy tire. So is a 6 speed transmission, electric start (with all the added weight) etc.etc. these aren't crutches. they are advancements. And if one day you go beyond the need for one of them, then go ahead and get rid of it. Until then, for 99% of trail riders. They are just gonna make you better. And most importantly, you will fall less, ride longer, and have more fun. Which is what most of us want.
I dont' think Kyle is wrong. to each there own. But his biggest complaint is that on downhill you have to adjust you boot so it doesn't hinder your movement. Really this is just a lack of time with the Pegz. It will help when you need it and you can adjust in situations to make sure it doesn't hold you back once you're use to them. I think the Pros, outweigh the conns for the vast majority of people.
Barry from the Cross Training and Enduro channel liked the Steg Pegz for easing arm pump. He's an Aussie, older than Kyle but probably a better rider (sorry Kyle, still love ya) and a wheelie master. He seems to do some pretty gnarly rides down there with huge ruts and giant step ups going up steep unhill sections. He also rides in Canada with the Traction E-Rag crew.
I found where they helped to teach me to smoothly transition from sitting to standing as I enter a technical section. I have one bike with them and one without. I find I stand better on both after installing them on one. I think they are a great teaching aid
Wow! A lot of controversy and heated opinion on this product. It's just a review folks, and ride your own ride.
I agree with your points BUT as a tall bloke (195cm or 6 foot 4 inches for you yanks) I find them great and I think that what they were originally made for, helping tall blokes grip the bike. I tried 2 pucks but that was no good, back to 1 puck. Took me a few rides to get use to them when moving around the bike and did get caught out once on a down hill where there was a rock ledge step down at low speed.
I have these on two of my bikes and have used them for the last two years. I started using them in an attempt to reduce stress on my arthritic left elbow. They have worked great to reduce the stress on my arms and have once again allowed me to ride for hours without agony the next day. In my experience if you have a physical need for them they work great but they do take some getting used to. Also the type of boot used makes all the difference as well. They do not work equally for all bike body designs. They fit and function much better on my 09 KTM 300 than they do on my 2016 TE 300.
For anyone wondering, Steg Pegz are more designed for flat out, wide-open type riding, where you need to rear-end steer the bike because of a steering damper in the front. They also reduce arm pump and take the pressure off your upper body, as you don't need to grip the bike as hard with your hands.
I absolutely love them. It's the only mod I NEED with every KTM i get.
i have then on my 350 and love them
Charlie Heinrich I have a ‘18 KTM 350 sxf I’m thinking about getting them for. It’s good to know the fitment is good.
Been running these for years on my 350 XCF-W. I ride a variety of stuff but typically pretty technical rocky stuff here in Arizona, Utah and Colorado. I have kinda weak legs and so for gripping the bike, especially uphill, these made a world of difference to me and once you get used to them you don't have to "think" about moving your boot around them on downhills as mentioned in this video. It just becomes part of your riding style. Along with the StompGrip i get great traction and can control the bike much better with my legs. I wear sidi boots and have no problem with them catching.
Hey Kyle thanks for the review. I'm going to order these for my xc-w 500 which I think is going to be good for long 8 hr rides and whoops. My next bike will be a smaller one for single track and yeah I don't think I will put these on that bike for up and down type riding. One thing you can do according to Irish Mike is to leave the bottom bolt in with locktite and swing the whole thing down to get to the filter.
I’m from Australia 🇦🇺 and I have stegz
6.4 foot rider here. I love them. Every bike I get on without steg pegs makes me miss them. Takes alot of strain off the arms. One puck is all I need for hard Enduro and general riding, cross country racing.
One annoying thing is it covering the air box. That does get tedious. On a Yamaha four stroke it wouldn't be an issue at all due to where their air filter is located.
Coming from Australia, they are a very common accessorise for bikes, almost everyone has steg pegz
They are really built for fast open tracks that you'll ride for up to 5 hours. They aren't really for tight stuff because you do need to throw the body around, but in the open tracks your sitting in the one position for long periods of time and the just increases fatigue
yeah thats the idea, trail riders and duel sports
Josh Wendt Finally someone who gets it..Thumbs up for explaining the concept, stegz are great for desert racing.
Their great in lots of situations, even in motocross.
Looks like a right pain if you wanna get the air box cover off!!
Plus I like to move about on the bike not be locked in!
I love how you clearly ride the $#!% out of that bike, but it’s always fully detailed!
I like the idea of steg pegs. I wish they had something for a BMW GS.
Great for longer desert rides. You can use your legs and reduces arm pump. They tend to get in the way when in tight tracks/rocky terrain etc.
Thanks for the review!!
I'm going to look for a pair 2nd hand to give them a try.
Mid bike sliders, lol.
I use my stegs for all types of riding,I find they are great when it comes to hill climbs and wheelies;as for decents ,you just spread your legs a touch.only negative's are cost and they lose grip in wet mud conditions.
Fair review, maybe a little negative but I get it. I'm still getting used to mine. For me with sidi x3 they dig into my calf a little, spacers or larger ones would help that. I haven't found mobility issues as I can work around them. For riding dirt and haul roads standing they make a huge difference. They are really for stand-up riders. What suprised me was I feel foot peg vibration more(bad) and I can feel the bike and steer the bike a little more with my legs (good). I used to stand up mostly but sit under throttle, now I can stand in a low crouch while hard accelerating and still maintaining balance without death grip.
Im an Aussie ex Husqvarna/KTM mechanic and you explained the exact issues we have with stegz when you need to do an air filter. The bolts they supply are a allen head bolt and not a torx head like OEM and they strip like no tomorrow! I think you'll that the boys that usually ride with them down here are doing high speed desert races where you're hanging off the ass end of the bike but you don't really see them too often luckily 👍
Allens rule, you have to clean them out
if they are full of dirt, and use the correct size
allen key, if the key is loose, don't use it, get a
size that fits, I change out anything torx.
I can see running those during a leisurely desert romp where you are standing and basically just going straight for 2 hours, but for Mx, or anything tight/technical, they probably just get in the way. Never used them, but I would guess you'd need to run more than 1 puck to really be able to feel a difference, especially with how some boots are designed (my Fox instincts are molded different than my Astars were)
ive been running 2 pucks for like 3 years now and definitely works better than single puck. after a while you get use to moving around the pucks for downhills dont even think about it or really get hung up
I think there awesome, I do agree with a few other comments on here on that particular bike you need to add a puck as the design of the plastics negate its effectiveness as it does engage ur boot effectively once I added a puck each side, I’ll never ride a bike without them! Arm pump is non existent except for long step down hill runs, which are almost always followed directly by a long incline which is were they come into there own. 👍👍
I've had the steg pegs on a few of my bikes. I thought they were great at first, but now I don't use them for the same reasons that you describes. 1. It's kind of a pain in the ass to get around them when going down hills or being in sections where you want the bike to be able to move around a little. 2. The air box thing really pisses me off, and there have been 2 occasions where I stripped the bolt that they give you that replaces the subframe bolt. So needless to say, the stag peg hype is over for me.
Hey Kyle , I appreciate your vids! I happen to disagree on this topic and I was wondering if you had any video of your hill descents to see that issue you described.? I run them in back position and haven't noticed sticking on (Fox Instincts) boots. I would agree that the airbox issue is annoying! To me, more benefits than probs. Keep up rippin it up!!!
I have a new 17 XC-W. Think you could make a video on water. How deep can we go, the ins and outs, do's and dont's, where potential water could get sucked up in the engine either through the airbox or a vent hose. Love your channel!
I've been using clear grip tape with great results. easy to keep mobile (no snag like you describe), but a huge decrease in effort to stay put on the bike. price point is nice also, costs $6 for a 1'x3' sheet.
Bryce Davis got a link to the product you use?
@@GregSamborski no, I just got it from a local skate shop. As a warning, it's really tough on gear
@@brycedavis907 spraying some clear coat or rock guard spray over will lessen the roughness
fixing to say, I think the design of your boots has a lot of input on those pucks. my O'Neal boots are smooth on the back so I may not have that getting stuck feeling. u should try different boots to see if you see or feel the differences
That is a good point sir!
maybe his boots were designed to compress in that area and offer some holding
Iv been using Stegs in the uk for the last year. I love them. I will install them on any bike I own.
I have run Steg Pegz on my 13 300xc for the past 2 seasons and I love them. I have no fingers on my right hand and these helps me stand up and grip the bike exactly as advertised. It allows me to have finer throttle control and better overall control of the bike. I have no issue with down hill sections but I am quite a bit taller than Kyle and might have an easier time shifting past the pegz. The only complaint i have is that at my height I have a lot of leverage to put pressure on the pegz and i bent them on the first ride. If you are a larger guy i would suggest the desert king model which uses thicker aluminum. I just fabbed up some stainless steel plates to stiffen them and it has worked well.
Will Scott How do you twist the throttle if you have no fingers on your right?
I still have a thumb. I use a rekluse clutch and run the front brake on the left hand side. Obviously its not ideal but its what i have. This is what i'm working with.
www.reddit.com/r/Dirtbikes/comments/2l2o61/i_am_searching_for_a_specific_style_of_lever_and/
Will Scott you are awesome!
Steg pegz are a very useful product, If set up correctly you can race motocross with them and depending on your boots friction can help too. Reducing arm pump is probably the most important thing about them, with desert racing you will tell the difference, whoops especially. @Dirt Bike Channel
EDIT: Also adding maybe a skate board wheel to it helps, having it further out fixes the problem with the snagging.
I think longer legs help to compensate for the "go around the stegpeg" problem on downhills. Different angles to play with.
Put a set of the desert king steg pegz on my 2019 Beta 300rr and OMG, first time i spend 6 hrs on a dirt bike and have absolutely no arm pump, 2 months before i had a similar ride and my arms and hands were cramped and hurting after the first hour....first time i've ridden my bike and had no arm pump what so ever, i don't work for steg pegz, my bike has absolutely every mod you can think of and steg pegz is without a doubt the best mod i've ever put on a bike.....any new bike i have moving forward will have these!
Wrong application buddy. Test these on a long desert ride, you might have a different opinion. That sharp edge on your boots is not helping either.
JTH YZ250X true
I use them on my crf250r and they are great, i have no problem moving around on the bike, downhill or otherwise. Having said that i wont be using them on my ktm because of the air box being locked in by the pegs
you are over thinking it i use them for a year and love them the only very true point is the air cleaner box is blocked and it sucks but the reduced arm pump is worth it
Always like the videos from Kyle, if I agree or not is irrelevant, he`s taken the time to offer an opinion and in doing so maybe helping some folks out with how they spend their money. I`m sure Kyle would be the first one to tell you, that this is just an opinion, not the end-all gospel. Watch all the vids, read all the articles ...hell I`m just glad we have this info readily available to us all now. Once upon a time, you just bought something and hoped for the best. Keep`em coming Kyle, love the channel brother!
I use them and man I love them! I have never used them with Fox boots. Alpinestars and Gaerne boots work great. with them. The air box issue on my KTM is actually a good thing cuz it constantly wanted to pop off.
Haha
Because of the current forign money exchange rates, these are cheaper to buy directly from the manufacturer, about 117 for the standard (*subject to change with economies). If you want faster shipping you can have one of the American companies who sell them match the price. I've been fighting off tendonitis and I'm hoping these will help.
I live and ride in Australia and enduro riders don’t usually run stel pegs it’s more for high speed dessert racing when you’re going flat out the whole time hanging of the back of the bike that’s when they really start shining
thanks for the honest review
Maybe u didnt notice them bc they were too far back and maybe the pucks werent sticking out enough they have spacers or a second puck but i dont even need to go past the pucks i like the fact that i can lean back on the pucks when going downs hills and stuff and i really dont mind taking it off to get to my airfilter my friend has the 2017 ktm and i understand why it is hard bc of the u bolt and u have to push it in to get the bottom subframe bolt in but i feel like it is worth the stability and confidence i get from it and it makes me want to stand up more as well
What about running clear grip tape? The type used on garage stairs for traction. This would provide more grip when squeezing but wouldn't hang up.
Do you have to unbolt these completely to change the air filter?
depends what bike
Hi Kyle you need to get out in the desert and retry the Steg Pegz out there. for example in Australia theres a race called the Tatts Finke desert race and Steg Pegz are pretty much a necessity for this race. So they haven't worked for you because your using them in the wrong terrain so you need to get out to the desert and try them again
Seems like most of the negative comments are from idiots who don't even own a pair. They work and as I get older anything that helps me ride longer with less fatigue is a win.
I hear what you're saying about getting caught up, but your boot has a pretty unique channel in the plastic that I suspect is the root cause of the negative issue you are describing. I'd bet the riders boot is going to come into play when deciding to ride this or not. You can also shave down the pucks a little to make them smaller, or even directional so they dont get in the way coming back forward..
Good review ive heard alot of people say similar
And I still cant believe how clean you get your bikes haha
I like mine!
good for faster sandy terrain especially with whoops or desert ridding, single trail tend to get in way, they also make a desert king version with heavier gauge alloy and double puck
Maybe different width options for the grommets??? They do need to be adjustable overall.
i had these on my KTM 500 EXC and didn't like them for most things. the only application these are good for is whoops. miles of whoops. which the So Cal desert has, but i ride tight singletrack and no track so these were in the way. i am not putting them on my new 300 XCW.
and the air box situation isn't a big deal but it's annoying and i did lose the lower subframe bolt on a long whooped out ride. luckily a buddy had a replacement bolt.
Good review, didn’t think about how they would get caught
If I had those booots, I would round off the rubber puck so it couldn't catch. If the boot didn't "catch" then you might be able to stack on a second puck. They would still have to noticably help me ride though, to make up for blocking the air filter on my 12 KTM 500 EXC.
This was a good critical review. I think these are more meant for more open riding and probably older riders or anybody who has arthritis problems and weak shoulders or arms. I would say you are probably pretty fit so this probably doesn't help you as much as the occasional weekend warrior who isn't quite as in shape or solid on the bike. I guess what I'm saying is if you are not having issues with arm pump or arthritis then these are probably not for you.
There is one major fail of stegs, it's the fact
that when you get trapped under your bike,
when the bike is down in 2ms , which is much
faster than reaction time, you can get your
boot snagged on them as you try to escape.
The bottoms should be tapered so you don't
have to lift the bike up that extra inch to get out
from under it.
I'm going to make my own using rubber and having them stick out more with a little bit of flex going through the plastic on my 18yz250x.. I will figure one out way better for me on my own then 180 bucks.
well , dont know what to think about this , seems to me that you dont ride hard or fast enough to benefit them , when your are riding quick and hard then they do work for any type of riding . i use them in the extreme enduro terrain and in the normal fast enduro stuff , they do come in better when you are at your peak trying to keep the bike under control
Fast desert riding is my background and I've never heard of these things before. Never seen them on district 37 race bikes, never seen em on baja race bikes. I can't say I'd feel the need to use them now, even though I don't race anymore. Dirtbikechannel rides in a much different environment than I do so maybe the folks that love these things ride in an environment or style that can utilize them.
I have had them on for two rides now and I'm right there with you. I found myself searching around trying to get in the perfect position while riding to get them to work well but overall felt that my $150 could have been better utilized in tires or gas. Having to constantly remove the bolts to change my air filter is definitely a concern as well. Great honest review man.
As I watched your video I started to tbink the same thing about those stegpegs as you stated Kyle. Seen them a few years back on one of the aussie channels too. And as a side note, have you ever thought of trying a set oc Rox risers for your handlebars? I have been using them on my WR450's since 2006 and I really like them for low speed riding in technical terrain. I can stand more upright which helps me balance the bike better. They also open up the seating position for me. You might give them a shot and see what you think.
tom yeahright if your standing upright your in the wrong body position
Carman E
While I understand the school of thought that states as such, and I have ridden for years both with them and without them, standing more upright works better for me. They help, me, with slow speed balancing of the bike (like trials bike slow speed), and don't hinder me one bit when it comes time to wick up the gas. I originally thought of using them from my experience with snowmobiles where the use of handlebar risers, especially with mountain sleds, is quite common. And since you are standing up your line of sight is improved in some of the areas where I ride since the vegitation (what we call "bear grass") can be quite high and hard to see through when you are making the trail as you go. Not everybody likes them and I doubt that you would ever see somebody like Grahm Javis using them. And me being a taller rider, it's nice not to be crouched over all the time in the "attack" position. Even some shorter riders I know like them too. Give em a whirl if you get a chance. If you like them, cool. If you don't, that's cool too.
tom yeahright I love them. I was just saying that standing upright is the wrong position contrary to popular belief but you already know what the attack position is.
No air box issues with the YZ250FX
My riding consists of fast whooped out desert stuff, which translates to standing and weighting the rear tire for hours. Especially on a 450 race bike, steg Pegz are the only way.
KYLE ,,your just not a Bull Rider, you just a good rider,,Good information!!
StegPegz are more useful for tall riders... I am 6'4" with 36" inseam barefoot and they help immensely to reduce upper body load up steep hills and with my long legs, it is easier to move around them for nasty descents. For taller guys whose knees are above the seat and can't grip a bike with ergonomics designed for a 5'9" human, they are great. If you are an average size human, you don't need them (i.e. the bike fits you), so they are just a nuisance in the way.
turb0diesel: Absolutley correct. Really great for the taller rider. I am 196cm tall and can use them or not without problems. They do not replace knee pressure on the seat but support your weight for long rides standing up in sand. Regards Garry
Open terrain they're okay,but I like to move around on my bike when riding single tracks,and I felt that they weren't worth the 160 bucks I paid.
that's what I thought as well, good review thanks!
They are something that takes a bit more getting used to than how long you tried them.
If never had any issues with gmsteg pegs they have worked wonders for me
Could just mount a rubber puck on the panel if you really want them. No bracket required but for my money not a chance
I am running a set on my Beta 300RR at the moment, with just one rubber. They help a fair bit for the faster flowing riding, and for the technical rocky stuff I'm not having any issues moving around. Kyle, I understand your frustration if you're having trouble with them getting in the way . . . if this was the case for me I'd probably take them off, but at the moment I'm getting some positives and no negatives, so I'll just keep them there.
Great review! Honest and I've noticed that a lot of really good reviews about these little round rubber bits attached to a steel bracket, and from riders doing a similar style of riding to you but no-one mentioned being caught up on the down hill sections.. I don't get arm pump much if at all and I don't run these pegs. I'm guessing they are for old fat riders to find something to spend their money on and make their bike look like they are up for serious action lol
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You've gotta run another set of rubber pucks to notice them I reckon. As soon as I did that made a world of difference
that would make my issue with them even worse.
Dirt Bike Channel you don't ride where they were intended to be used so of course you're not going to like them
They are mainly designed for the big desert races here in Aus. Look up Finke & hattah desert races
love how honest you are will not be getting any of those
Also I'm glad for his honest review. I will definitely not be getting these either.
Sir I love ktm dirtbikes but ktm dirtbikes india not available this dirtbikes why sir
can you do a review on flywheel weights?
150$ for 2 pieces of medal with a rubber circle ?😑 give me a break
if there so easy to make make me a pair then
Don’t knock them till you try them mate
108..us. on the steg pegz site
@@charlieheinrich9927 lel i made my for 20eur too overpriced learn to make stuff yourself and stop youst buying everything
Thanks for this honest review! I was thinking they would give and advantage and help out on the long technical rides but I completely see now why they would pose more of a hinderance the a help overall.
Creative solution for a non-existent problem!
open terrain is where they work best.. Toby Price runs them and he`s pretty much the best desert racer in Australia and a Dakar champion !
you00t he runs them because they sponsor him, not because he likes them. That’s the thing with pros endorsing products.
Good review👍
I also disagree. I have been using these with 2 discs on my 17 KTM 300 and I am very happy with them. I ride the nastiest rocks and roots Colorado has to offer. They are designed to keep you up in the attack position. I have no problem moving around on the bike and I am a pretty good B rider. Everyone I ride with complains about arm pump and I have not had any since using them. If you are a trail rider and are not an aggressive rider doing 50+ miles per day then they may not be right for you. You DO need to learn how to use them. Ten hours may not be enough to learn how to engage your hips/knees and retrain yourself to ride relaxed in your upper body and hands...
are you thinking about keeping the ktm 250 xc for a while as your main bike? If so would you consider getting a lectron carburetor?
I am considering buying one for my 2014 yz250 but they are quiet pricey, 700$ canadian with the chipping.
The main reason why i would like to get one it's because i sometimes ride from the bottom to the top of mountains so in this conditions i believe the lectron would solve the trottle issue when i get in high altitude. dont really feel like playing with the jets while im riding. If anybody got inputs about the lectron carbs i would appreciate.
Frederic Jordan 700$ is absolutely absurd, there is probably 30$ worth of material here.
LCP1988 I think he means the Lectron Carb
Frederic Jordan I have one on my husky and love it. Works very well. I am in Canada and got it used for 500$ shipped from a guy on thumpertalk with 4 hours on the carb. If you like a really snappy bottom end they won't do that. It has quite a smooth bottom end with a hard hitting top end. That's why he sold it as he liked a snappy bottom end. I would definitely buy it again
Jamo Cam haha yeah I misread that for sure..
Carman E ok well thanks i appreciate your comment, i would like a snappy bottom end power but not the main reason why i want one so still considering getting a lectron for sure. On their web site they have the high velocity lectron carb, and they mention that they increase the bottom power over the regular lectron. And that for only 30$ more .
they are good buy insanely expensive ..for 2 pieces of 5mm aluminium and a rubber door stopper asking for 170 usd!
I use the on my FE501 and they are awesome.
How many rides did you do with them? Can you really give an a review that is worth anything after only one ride?
He said he had ridden with them for about 10 hours...
Hi Kyle!
I want to buy a bike for Enduro riding. Can I buy a Motocross like a 250xc or is it better to have a Enduro? Motocross Bikes are a lot cheaper. Is there any diffrence in riding?
Manuel Leitner 250xc is a cross trainer mate not a motorcross. It's got electric start and endure suspension. Get an enduring bike if your riding enduro. Get a motorcross bike if your riding motorcross. Motorcross bike's suspension is really bad for enduro it makes riding harder.
Ch0oKlAdY _ ok thanks
Manuel Leitner Motorcross suspension is made for big impacts like jumps every now and then where as enduro suspension is made for constant little bumps like rocks and cattle tracks. I'm sure you can imagine what rocks would be like on a motorcross bike. You have my word I have 2011 kx250f and the suspension definitely affects the riding and your body definitely feels it the next day haha. This is on long trails/enduro of course
No worries mate
Ch0oKlAdY _ but one more question... the crosstrainers, are they ok for enduro like kyle is using?
I think these would be way more useful if they were boot mounted. Does anyone make a product like that? Maybe a mount that clipped into your boot like a pistol paddle holster.
So what you're saying is that there's a steeper leaning curve for Americans?
Never heard of this before, haven`t tried, but totally agree with your opinion.
Thanks for the review. I thought about buying a set of these but now I don't think they're worth $150. You bring up really good points
They’re mostly used for high speed desert riding.
Your Australian friends like them because they can use them for a boomerang LOL🤠
Thanks I am from Australia and after watching your honest review I lost total interest in this product.
Thanks for your effort mate 👍
good job at 2:36 climbing those rocks
thank you
Found the same thing on the Berg fe 501.I Got caught up trying to move around on the bike and air box same same. I think they probably work better for taller riders but I just got hung up too much. I think I might like them if they mounted to your boots instead of the bike maybe with a wedge design like a double sided door stop.
Sorry Kyle but you do the wrong sort of riding they are designed for rides where you want your body weight over the back and grip with your legs for long periods of time in wide fast and flowing sections of track. A video where you will see them being used is a finke desert race video for the bike. No offence mate great videos
good review. One of your best review yet