Roland FP-30X vs Yamaha P-225 | Better Music
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2023
- A new contender for Digital Piano greatness has arrived in the Yamaha P-225! Can it dethrone the FP-30? Find out in our comparison. Which one do you like?
Roland FP-30X: www.bettermusic.com.au/roland...
Yamaha P-225: www.bettermusic.com.au/yamaha...
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Yamaha P225: thmn.to/thoprod/568064?offid=... - Hudba
I’ve been looking at both of them, considering which to buy. They’re each others’ equivalents from different brands. I’ve watched this video a few times and listened to the sounds of the pianos. Initially, I was thinking of buying the Roland because of a slight price difference. Today, I visited the music shop and tried them both. I think the specs on the Roland are amazing, and I love the opportunity to connect to MIDI with Bluetooth. Spec-wise I was hooked on the Roland, and of course I had to try both. I have a Korg now, and therefore I don’t have any brand-loyalty towards any of the two. Here’s however what I observed and my opinions:
- Yamaha’s keys are more glossy and your fingers glide easier across. This is not a big issue though, and the Roland was still easy and comfortable to play on.
- The user-friendly-ness is good on both, but the Yamaha is a bit easier to use (because of less functions/sounds, I believe?). There are more “clicks” on the Roland to get to the same functions. It’s very easy to figure out, though, so not really an issue.
- the keys on the Roland are slightly more yellow than the ones on the Yamaha.
- The sound on the Roland is deeper, the Yamaha’s is lighter. This is more noticeable IRL.
- The keys feel slightly heavier on the Yamaha. Both pianos’ keys have a very acoustic feel.
- The placement of the speakers on the Yamaha (both towards- and away from the player) makes it sound nicer without headphones.
- I couldn’t hear the difference in their polyphonies, even when layering sounds.
- they both have a function to set the speakers for “desktop”.
Conclusion; even though the specs are nicer on the Roland (I think), my overall experience was that the Yamaha was nicer to play on, nicer to listen to and has a nicer look.
I’ve chosen to go with the Yamaha. Im an amateur piano-player with many years of experience. I think it’s good for both beginners and advanced players.
I would highly recommend trying both of the pianos before buying! Your opinion could differ entirely from mine.
My “review” and choice is solely based on my own personal preference and experience! I just thought that this comment might help someone decide which to try IRL before buying. It’s a tough choice as they’re both really good pianos! And don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed playing on the Roland too.
Good luck with the choice everyone! :))
Wow. Great review. It seems to be more accurate and objective than any other review. Your comment was very helpful. I am currently using P115 and am considering upgrading to P225. Thank you.❤❤❤❤❤❤
Hi, many thanks for such a great comment with your comparison!
Have you been looking on Kawai KDP120? Can it be fair alternative “on same level”?
Thank you very much, @@kimschube ! I hope it helped with the decision!
Thank you very much, @@Brick_Reporter ! No, actually, I haven't been looking at it nor played it.
Looking at the weight and dimensions, I can immediately see that it would not be ideal for traveling around. However, if you're simply buying it for at-home use, it looks like it's a merge of the two models that I compared above. It resembles a digital piano more than a keyboard.
I would highly advise trying the piano out before buying any, though. So if you're interested in all three, I think you should try to find them in physical stores and try them out, because it all depends on your opinion on the feel and sound of it.
I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
Good luck! :)
@@MalakTumeh Many thanks! We are looking exactly for in house only use, so we paid attention to Kawai, as brand has more “Piano history”)
Will for sure try all of them in person!
All the best!
I'm afraid this review didn't help me at all........because Jonathan plays so damn well I can't focus on the bloody pianos!
C’mon guy Yamaha clearly better piano sound
@@spada60Yamaha better
Very much appreciate your comparison and review videos. While sometimes lacking in the drill downs, you provide very even takes on them - I never feel like the comparisons are done in a way that is trying to unfairly favor one or the other. If my NIDA grad daughter was still down under, I would ship her your way to try and give you some business.
One off topic question: What stand is in use for this video? I suspect it's a higher end stand that is appropriate for me, but it looks steady and solid. I'm re-investing myself in piano/keys and trying to piece it all together in a usable way in my play space while leaving open the option of gigging later, so when I see something that looks like a great fit, I have to at least look!
Roland and Kawai have pretty piano sound. But one thing Yamaha excels on them for me is when i close my eyes and have to guess if it is a digital piano or real , especialy when playing jazz or classical . Yamaha is the hardest to distinguish.
Yamaha for me 👌
Tripple sensor on both yes or no? Also, a test a lot of reviews neglect but it is important imo. How noisy are the keys. Some can be incredibly thumpy and spoil your enjoyment of playing. Others can be rattly. What are these 2 keyboards like in that respect?
Thanks for this sound comparison video. As an FP-30X owner, I like the P-225 piano sound.
Am an FP-30X owner too. More than the sound difference, I am more of a key action difference.
Which do you like best as far as action goes?@@eigenfield
@@bcain5823 I prefer PHA-4 in FP-30X. I test tried while in store Yamaha P125 and I can tell the difference, the Yamaha feels more springy by comparison.
Yamaha P125 has different key technology implemented than the P225
So helpful! Thank you.
I own both and the Roland is my main choice for sure
if you own both then why do you watch comparison's videos ?
@@Ardalan01 just to see what they say about them. I like to watch deep dives into stuff I already have so I can learn about them and what their strengths and weaknesses are
@@NMages20 Hi! I want to buy one of them to my wife who is a beginner.Which one u recomend me more?Action feels better on roland right?everyone say that,but the clicking noise problems and people returning it afraids me.Thanks!!
@evonietzsche really? I haven't had any problems with the keys clicking at all. I barely hear them to be honest. I should say that the Roland is better and more comfortable for the music I play. I'm not a speed player and don't throw a lot of trills into my songs. The keys on the Roland take longer to get back up after playing them than the Yamaha so when i say the action is better, thats what i meant lol I could rave about the Roland and your wife could hate it. It's all subjective. Plus, there are really nice cheaper options out there. The Yamaha p45 is what I mainly learned on. Which is a FANTASTIC beginner keyboard.
Thank you so much for the valuable review! can you also compare p225 vs casio px s1100?
Masataka Kono's review seems pretty good,
type this into the CZcams searchbar to find his review video:
Masataka Kono CASIO PX-S1100 vs YAMAHA P-225
Hi thank you for your demonstration very nice, I am an owner of a Roland G1000 and sadly the LCD is fading and I can't find a part, so I am looking for another portable keyboard, what my dilemma is I have always used the GS MIDI via the floppy discs for backing me up as a one man band, I realise that is very old technology, I am wondering as you say the Roland plays midi can I download all my midi files to a USB and plug it into the keyboard for playback or do you know of another model of any brand that can do this, your advice would be great await your reply with thanks Kind regards Noeline
I've had the P-525 keyboard for less than 3 months, and there's a key that's no longer working. Despite it still being under warranty, the technical service is asking for 100 euros for the repairman's visit. Beware of the manufacturer's warranty, which is really poor.
Compare to ES120 vs P-225
Can MIDI controller keyboard be connected to the Roland FP-30X to play sounds?
I am asking because I would prefer to play guitar sounds, etc. on the Roland FP-30X using external MIDI keyboard.
Nice to hear some Vince Guaraldi at 5.00 👍
Surely new Yamaha p225 is a good instrument and of higher level than previous p125, but for me Roland fp30x has unreacheable, yet!!!! And its price is lower, too!!👍👍👍👏👏👏
Direct comparison of GHC and PHA-4 is the main interest to me. The sounds are secondary!
I am disappointed.
Thank you,
Michael
I agree
Pls make more comparation acoustic piano more deep. just acoustic piano
Thanks for the video! I'd like to ask an advise; I basically only play classical music. I had a "real piano" until I moved and now I can only buy an electric piano, but don't have any experience with it. Which type would you recommend? One of these two? Casio (in this case which type?) Another one? I can't spend a huge amount of money, so I need something that costs more or less like these two! And I need something that feels similar to the acoustic piano and that is suitable for classical music. Thanks! 🎹
Yamaha P145 o Roland FP10 son más económicos que estos dos y también son buenos pianos
Roland
Your opinion for MAX KB6 please.
Both sound amazing, Yamaha sounds more realistic and like a good vertical piano, and Roland sounds more like a fake grand piano. Both are great.
Man idk which one to buy
...but the price gap between them up to 200usd, of course should be different sound of it...
Does p225 use the same sound engine of p525?
I like the Roland best .. I think… but they are both good.
Did u buy it?
Which one has better key action for a beginner piano learner?
This is very subjective you need to try it yourself to decide. but in general yamaha has lighter keys very soft landing normal return and little noisy, roland is stiffer with very soft landing and quick return and less noisy. i hope this helps to clarify. i personally have the FP30x and its good but still subjective.
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I own and love my Roland RD88 but IMHO the Yamaha sounds better.
Isn't RD88's competitor CK88 or something?
That Yamaha is brighter, brighten your RD-88 until its brightness matches, then A-B the two again.
@@Jason75913 I'd say that the CK88 is more stage performance orientated with all the real time drawbar and effects controls whereas the RD88 is more of a compact stage piano with extra sounds thrown in. Don't get me wrong, I love my RD88 and wouldn't replace it due to its extremely compact size and 88 note weighted action that's a pleasure to play. The CK88 doesn't look quite as slim as the RD88, but if I didn't already own the Roland, it would certainly be my top choice as a performance orientated keyboard. I recently picked up a Korg Kross 2 at a great price and it complements the Roland very nicely. It hasn't got a dedicated drawbar organ section but its organs are more than decent enough for any gig at the price I paid for it as opposed to getting something like a Nord etc.
@@madness8556 I use Juno-DS61 + Kross2 61. Or just the Juno on its own sometimes. Fantastic keyboards. I got them before the pandemic, at the fairer prices they went for back then.
"Vs" from sellers are the worst: they never say what they really think because they sell both and don't want to kill a sale or trigger haters/fanboys.
You obviouslly think one is better... Just say it.
Thank you... Yes this is so freaking annoying...
Roland action is a world in front, that said: FP30X have internal audio interface, what that means?
Simple, if you don't like the caracteristic "digitally" sound of roland, just put some Garritan CFX engine through its speakers and voila: better sound than both, with PHA4 key action
The key action in irreplaceable
So exactly how do you put a Yamaha CFX engine into a Roland??
@@bcain5823Simple:
1 - Connect FP30 by USB to you PC, will be recognised as new input/output audio device becase built in audio interface
2 - Open your Kontakt noire, garritan CFX or another you like, choose fp30 to be the input midi and as audio output device
3 - No needed, its just the 2 above hahaha
Fun fact: these 3rd party CFX are A LOT better than native CFX from yamaha.
@@maestrodito You may have guessed that I am knew to this and in the process of researching before I buy. I assume you have to purchase these VSTs or are they included with the Roland package?
@@bcain5823 There is no Roland package, my friend, I'm only mentioning these CFX VSTs if this specific tone is something the buyer is interested in, understand?
You can fix a bad sound like Supernatural with a VST and use the great PHA4 action, while a bad key action like GHS/GHC/GH3/NWX will always be there hindering you.
If you are looking for more options, in my opinion the best on the market is Kawai: Better sound, key action as good as PHA4.
If you can consider the ES120 or above, I recommend it with my eyes closed!
Take a look (if possible, with good phones):
czcams.com/video/o1er_wWA1Yk/video.html
P225 - CFX concert piano sample,like the expensive Arius
Compare newer p series with older p series
Also p145 vs p125
P145 is a rehashed P45, so P125 is an upgrade, now succeeded by the P225
The Yamaha is a much better sounding keyboard. More defined lower end and more realistic sounding
What song is that at 1:40? it sounds so beautiful.
I'd guess a Mozart piece.
It's Friederich kuhlau sonatina in c major
Enjoy:)
@@chrisnoneya1040very close !
@@fredericfrancoischopin6280 thank you so much!
For some reason the Roland is more involving?
tell us HOW it's different.... different different
1:23
1:41
Yamaha sound thin,roland sound richer.
It's incredible how far behind the digital pianos are when it comes to taking advantage of the technological innovations in the digital age. I don't know why they are called digital to be honest. That's the main reason why the Supernatural engine on the Roland, developed almost 10 years ago remains the most authentic piano sound in all the competition in its price range. It has color, It has considerable tonal change within the dynamic spectrum, great modeling while notes sustain, a certain metallic taste to it which is present in all acoustic pianos, and so forth. Its a sound with a character, but also a sound with its own defects which a pianist with a good ear can easily spot; E.g: exaggerated fortes in the midrange area, and poor key-off samples which are too obvious while playing staccatos, yet the core tone is absolutely considerable if authenticity matters and to me it does matter enormously.
One thing that Yamaha 225 does better (objectively speaking), is body resonance easily notable in higher notes. However when the core tone is that bad, ornaments lose their value. .
Yamaha sounds muffled but more forgiving
What's the song at 4:50?
christmas time is here by vince guaraldi trio
O som do Yamaha é um pouco melhor.
Roland sounds less acoustic than Yamaha.
Maybe. But roland has a more complex sound. In real time through speakers, Roland sounds better.
Yamaha doesn’t sound acoustic. It sounds like mud.
Yamaha sweet and gentle sound.Roland Tin sound.
Roland is crisper on the highs but a nice clarity which maybe too much clarity and brightness yet better than the muddy weak sound of the Yamaha.
You can tweak brightness with an equalizer on either. But more brightness means better able to cut through a mix on stage. That's usually unnecessary when playing solo or at home.