OMG my horrorstory 🤯 Update on the Young Living allergy story: my mother-in-law is starting to question the power of oils because of health issues she has been having which the oils didn't help with at all. Surgery did the trick though. So give a rep enough time I guess
Yay! I'm so glad this is something you and your husband were able to communicate in a way that didn't break up the family. I hope she continues to decrease her dependence on oils and can enjoy a full loving relationship with her grandchild.
I am so sorry about what what happened to you and baby. Glad you posted an update. I hope you help your MIL to getting out. She sounds like she needs it. Good luck!
Herbalife nutrition shops appear and disappear like those mysterious junk shops in Goosebumps stories. 'I got a tea from that shop yesterday.' 'Yesterday? Honey, that store's been vacant for years!' Random gust of wind blows leaves down the now empty street.
A friend is a herbalife lady. She is always trying to get me signed up but she's always broke and struggling no matter how hard she works. I can't drink the teas they taste awful
The essential oil smell thing reminds me of how smokers don't notice they stink of cigarettes. I don't smoke, both my parents do. I live in a different country now so whenever they send me a package it smells like cigarettes and I'm like "yep, smells like home" lol. My mom was surprised how it still smells of cigarettes even though she kept it in a room where they don't smoke before sending it. They don't realize their entire home and clothes and everything smells like it because they're so used to it. I'm pretty sure I also smelled like cigarettes back when I lived there even though I've never had a single cigarette and I couldn't smell it on myself either.
Totally off topic, but this comment reminds me of a I had a boss who was meeting a guy she’d been talking to on a dating app. She’s a smoker but she said on her profile that she wasn’t. I should mention he was in Texas and we were in Alaska, and he was flying all the way to AK to meet this woman. So she goes and picks him up, and of course she smells like cigarettes. He ended up staying the weekend but told her that if he’d known she smoked he wouldn’t have even gotten on the flight. She was stunned because she used air fresheners and smoked with her car window down and thought he’d never notice. 🤦🏼♀️
It seeps into every corner of the house, into the fabric and the walls themselves. Thats why resellers have to specify if its from a non smoking home, because it can reek forever
The smell permeates a home and can move in the air ducts. They would need to tape up the vents and put an air purifier in there and it would probably still smell of cigarettes.
@@hannahcave4403 Yep. My brother and I roomed together for five years. My bedroom was above the kitchen, so when he smoked, it still entered my room. I often had to close my room vent to help lessen (but never fully eliminate) the smell. Smokers always think that spraying and whatnot eliminates it, and it just doesn't. It stinks and clings to everything and I hate it so much. It was a large part in why I finally had enough and needed my own space. I unfortunately need to share my car right now with my mom, who is also a smoker, but I work from home most days so I'm not in the vehicle as much. I'm waiting until she gets her own before I go to town with cleaning my car. But I still step out of it smelling like her smoke (both cigarettes and weed) 😣
I’m a FedEx delivery driver. Young living and doterra sticks up my truck every day and I can still smell it at the end of my day even if it’s my first delivery. The migraines I get 😭😭
One of my coworkers is obsessed with oils and they make the entire office stink soooo bad. She huffs them like a drug addict i swear to god. She’s also super religious, anti-vax, and thinks her oils can cure her if she gets sick 🙄 she’s an absolute cliche. I don’t think she’s in an MLM (at least that I know of) but she’s been fully brainwashed that essential oils are the answer to all her problems. She even cooks with them and puts them in her drinks. I’m like dude you’re ingesting poison!!!
@@FortheLoveofBeesHaving to send a written letter to cancel sounds like absolutely bullcrap as well. It's meant to be as difficult as possible. I bet if a lawyer got involved, they'd figure out how to cancel that card quick and in a hurry, without a letter.
Bait and switch is a normal sales tactic. Basically in an mlm you are the product, not the product you are selling. Hence the high turn over rates. Non mlm version is “sign up for a toaster” then I try to sell you on my service or product.
It cannot be repeated too often; Natural does NOT mean safe. Melaleuca situation: Have the friend go to their bank, and tell them to put a stop payment on the unwanted membership. It usually costs around $35. The bank may be able to flag the business as predatory or fraudulent.
I hope the author’s friend knows they can and should reverse the charges on their card. If they are in the US, they should also contact their state’s attorney general.
If it were in Canada it would also probably be a PIPEDA and possibly a do not call list violation, in addition to the competition act. It sounds like it is super illegal everywhere. I hope the people who got scammed by them are able to report them and get them shut down.
Artificial sweeteners are an instant migraine trigger for me. To the point where if I even taste it I will gag because I know my body won’t tolerate it
I've discovered a very common sweetener (sucrolose) likely makes me break out. Didn't know sucrolose was even in a drink I liked until I compared it do a similar product that didn't make me break out and didn't have the sweetener.
Me too. Almost all artificial sweeteners cause migraines for me. And so does stevia, which some won't believe because it's "natural" so it couldn't cause migraines...
I'm an artificial sweetener intolerant diabetic, and I feel your pain. Aspartame = instant migraine. Sucralose = feeling food poisoned and very "out of it." ACE-K can do either of these things in the right amounts. It's horrible and why I won't consume anything sweet anywhere they won't disclose their ingredients list.
I'm deathly allergic to bananas. I could eat them when I was a little girl but gradually I became allergic to them. The reactions got worse over time. Now I can't even touch them, much less even think about eating one. I have other allergies but none of them are as bad as the reactions I get with bananas. Also allergic to latex badly. As far as essential oils goes. Eucalyptus and tea tree oils, now to even smell them gives me a skull crusher headache. I don't dare put any of that on my skin. I'm fully on the fragrance free train.
To OP #2: you are NOT a bad mother!!! You are a great mom because the NANOSECOND you realized what was the problem, you made changes and FIXED THINGS. That's what a good mother does!! You cannot be expected to know EVERYTHING and that "doctor" can shove their diploma where the sun don't shine, pull it back out, and EAT IT for shaming you!!!!
Any doctor that missed the hives or didn't investigate potential irritants after finding them, has themself to blame. The mom had pure guesswork and she did the right thing first.
Melaleuca in particular always brings a certain ire to my soul whenever I hear about them. I will never forget or forgive that they stole away the last productive years of my grandmother’s life, making her think she was working hard to leave something behind for her kids and grandkids only for all of it to fall to her uplines.
My friend has a small following on IG and they've roped her into trying to get customers by using her 3k followers asking them to purchase "a wellness box" from "the wellness company" 🙄🙄
25:36 If you ever get looped in automatic shipment, change your debit card or close the bank account and set up a new one. This is sometimes the only way to resolve getting charged for something you don't want.
I don't have one but should, but another option is to maybe get a service that provides fake, one-time debit cards. Write down at the very least the last four digits, though, as you may need them to verify something. I frequnetly have customers calling my job to locate what a transaction was and it's easier for us to look it up by the last four digits used.
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValleyI have heard similar techniques where people will get a secured credit card, or prepay debit. Not only for flexibility to cancel or withhold payment because it's easier to manage that instead of changing everything on your main account. But also for identity protection. If someone steals that card info there's nothing they can do, and good for using on online shopping sites
Thank u for sharing this. A couple months ago my bf wanted me to buy him stuff from the beard club and assumed it was a 1 time thing, well I was wrong and the next month there was a $70 charge on my card. I was freaking out and yelling at my bf to cancel it. Unfortunately I didn't get my $70 back but I got a new box of products to give him next year for his birthday bc he barely uses them 😭
I'm autistic and didn't realize how gullible I was because of it until I got into anti-MLM content. I truly do think that if I ever saw any of these "opportunity calls" or hun's insta stories in the wild and without your commentary, I'd believe every single word they said. Bless you for making this kind of content and warning vulnerable people like me of the dangers. These women really know how to spin a convincing fairytale to hook you in.
It's so fascinating how we can present so differently. I'm autistic and because of it I am immune to peer pressure, and because of lifelong harassment in order to try to make me crumble to peer pressure, I am naturally suspicious of giving any loyalty or trust to groups. I don't even trust candy that says Made in China.
I have ADHD and am in the process of getting an evaluation for autism as well. I have been a victim of several different multi-level marketing (MLM) scams throughout my adult life because, like you, I fell for the "opportunity call" bait hook, line, and sinker! I'm so glad this channel and others are spreading awareness to vulnerable populations to prevent financial ruin for the intended victims! 😊
They may think they can't because they sign something for the money to be taken out. I work for a bank and know for certain if you call them and tell them you have asked the company to stop charging your account, they will count it as fraud and stop the electronic payment. I had to do this with a gym membership once.
As the mother of said baby I was shocked as well. When I confronted her she had to really think hard to realize she had actually put oils in the food. She had been using them for seasoning like salt and pepper
@@LovedLisa I am so sorry that happened to your baby. It boggles my mind how your MIL isn't even aware of what she is doing and that it could make your son sick.
It's so dangerous to eat them like spices omg? Evenmore for a baby allergic or not Is this ignorance or misinformation? Like did anyone told her it was something good?
@@LovedLisayou need to seriously not allow her to be around the child. It sucks having no support, I am 24 with three children and no one but my husband, but it's better than having a delusional mother in law who could really hurt your toddler. It's not worth it at all. He's a priority over her feelings. She can visit, you shouldn't be eating her food or going there honestly.
You describing finding those essential oils in your PO box brought up such strong Brad Pitt in 'Seven' "what's in the box!?!?!" vibes 😅. I love your kind, compassionate approach to these stories, it brings some much-needed kindness into a difficult conversation.
The Primerica "H8ter" guy is my spirit animal 😂. Let's go, dude, you are awesome! To the Melaluca story, though...that crap sounds so illegal. Also, love how they tried to subtly gaslight the writer by dropping that line about influencers getting "weird" during the second interview, as though already guilt-tripping you into saying yes in the next meeting because "you don't want to be weird, right?" Not being able to cancel unless you write in a letter makes it so hard to legally prove you wrote and sent the letter. They can claim it was lost in the mail, whereas phone records would provide more definitive proof that you reached out. How very fitting that they want to promote "'Merican jobs!" but it's a scam. Call it my growing disenchantment with capitalism, but yeah...scamming other Americans with this MLM sounds about par for the course.
In my country, many subscription services can be cancelled through a trackable letter with a notification that it reached its destination. Does that not exist in the US?
I have sent a story a while back and Hannah had read it. About how my aunt and sister tried talking me into Mary Kay for the free car. The disabled people (such as myself) are targeted a lot. After the Mary Kay run in, I was asked by an Arbonne hun if I would like to WORK with her. I made a post about how difficult it was finding a job/getting one bc of said reasons. She sent me a voice message saying she found my post and felt like she had to reach out and that I could easily do it. The disabled community are highly sought out. Usually, the hun would do one of these two things. They would target the person who has a disability or go to a parent (typically a mother) who has a disabled child and try to get them to do the marketing based off their child needs etc. One of the most common medical diagnosis I have seen targeted myself are people with ADHD or Autism. Especially if it's an oil based MLM. I watch many Anti-MLM channels that talks about this. The huns behavior absolutely disgusts me. They have no knowledge of said issues or seem to genuinely care.
My local Facebook groups are seeing a LOT of posts from huns looking to "hire" people to help them answer e-mails or return phone calls and such. They target stay at home moms and disabled people specifically, and if you respond they try to talk you into joining their company. If you ask if they are MLM / Network Marketing / etc., they block you.
I don't think the company is around anymore because I looked a few months ago and can't find them anywhere, except for people illegally selling their jewelry on websites like Ebay, but I have Spina Bifida and a "friend's" (we no longer speak) mother almost roped me into Premier Jewelry! I had my party in the corner of a Panera and literally NOBODY came! I was pissed then, but I'm so grateful now because let's say because of my disability people pitied me and always bought stuff so I was actually able to afford an apartment of my own. Once that MLM went under I would've ended up right back in a situation where I was living with (abusive) family. It would've hurt more to actually escape and end up back where I started than to not really know what I'm missing!
I am sorry that you were targeted and I agree that how they target disabled and neurodivergent groups as well as SAHMs are disgusting. I really wish there was more we can do.
Absolutely I can confirm after my car accidents and my autism diagnosis I got targeted even more. I had to leave social media for a while as the huns in my town were directly harassing they even came to my 9-5 job after I left social media.
@@slowdownbuddy why don't you have your social media private, and if someone does weasel I'm why don't you just block them? You don't have to burn it all down.
I was involved with Primerica for about two months which was two months too long. A couple days after joining and starting the process, I googled the company just to learn more and I was bombarded with so many articles and videos taking about how it was a scam and an MLM. I felt so dumb. Luckily I got out without looking like too much an idiot to other people in my life
Ugh, sorry they did that to you. Hope you found a real agency to work with. AO,AIL,GLOBE LIFE, Symmetry are similar. Insurance can be very mlms but the koolaid ones are the worst
Damn. You should’ve at least gotten your licenses and let them pay for the majority of the cost. Life insurance, securities, and mortgage lending looks great on a resume!
Been seeing a LOT of comments from people talking about meleluca cleaning supplies…. Especially on the “chemical free” side of tiktok but for some reason when I point out it’s an MLM (which they always leave out) I get blocked. 😂
@@catherineroth4530 there are always comparable products from other brands that don’t exploit their barely paid “reps” 😅 I feel that way about pampered chef…. Love their stuff, if I find it for sale used, I buy it…. But otherwise gotta find something else. 😅
I asked if they had auto ship bc I wanted to just get a few products but not having to pay every month. They said no. Thank goodness I checked bc they will charge you every month and to cancel is a pain in the butt
Thinking about the essential oils in the feeding tube… I’m not just concerned about degrading the tube.. but also that degraded the plastic and silicone will be then going into her body as well. Truly sickening that someone would give such harmful advice
I love when I’m bingeing and then refresh to a new video!!! Currently drafting a “horror story” of my own, as I now realize I was roped into an “MLM” type situation as a 8 YEAR OLD!?
Shame on that Dr. shaming a mother who thought she was doing her best. You can educate without shaming. I hope that mother isn’t beating herself up. Her intentions were good. When you know better, you do better.
I was part of Melalueca for a couple months. I was intrigued with the non-toxic and safer products for our family. We tried quite a few products, but ultimately only liked the laundry detergent and a few body products. I was disappointed and cancelled our membership because I couldn’t spend $80+ monthly just on laundry detergent. It would create a stockpile quickly. Canceling was easy though. Print a page, sign and date, take a screenshot and email to customer care. They responded quickly and our membership was cancelled with no more charges. Occasionally I get an email from them inviting us back, but I just delete it. If the monthly purchase wasn’t a requirement, we would still purchase things here and there
I am a current customer and have been for 15 years. I love the products. The story of the guys trying to lure the influencer in as an affiliate was a total scam and that is not how Melaleuca operates. Those guys need to be reported.
If you get charged by a company, in this case, Melaluca, and they are refusing to cancel the subscription. You can contact your bank or credit card company and put a stop payment stating that they are refusing to cancel the subscription. Then dispute the charges.
I'm disabled physically and have mental health issues. I can't tell you how many people have pitched their oils to me. I've bought some oils on my own because I do believe diffusing lavender helps destress me. But this was not based on a suggestion from a hun. I was at a massage therapist's office, I noticed that something was put into the air and it added to my relaxation. Thankfully, she was not a hun and told me that it was lavendar oil.
Yes, simple aromatherapy is legitimate, and not because the oils are magic but because scent is an extremely powerful sense that can greatly affect our mood. Some make you calm and sleepy, some wake you up, some open a clogged nose, etc etc. Patchouli oil whiffed out the bottle opens my nose up faster than any vaporub.
Pregnancy has the common effect of having lower overall immunity. A lot is taken by the baby, even if you use supplements. Because of this, a lot of women become allergic to a lot of things during that period, sometimes even reacting on/off to some things. For example, my sister became allergic to gluten, sugar, milk and tbh everything inbetween. It's because it's an autoimmune allergic reaction, not a specific allergy.
@sargeoutdoors thanks for reminding me to update my profile with my tiktok and insta handles 😅 i got away from using CZcams professionally because the formatting was different from the other social media platforms
As a massage therapist who uses essential oils or things I will not buy from MLM’s there are things that it can help with sure. It can’t hear anything. But we never use them for babies or pregnant women it is a safety/health hazard. The fact that some of these so-called medical industry people don’t know this stuff is beyond me.
I recently moved to a new city and went to see a massage therapist I had never seen before. She was great but at the end she put some pepperminty type of oil all over my lower back. She didn’t ask me ahead of time and I was shocked and didn’t know what to say! I’m pregnant and it definitely freaked me out!
@@demo2823I asked her what it was and she said it was some essential oil blend! It felt super cold on my back for a while. She knew I was pregnant, yes!
What brands would you recommend? The only non MLM ones I know about are the Walmart ones and they don't work as well (maybe they're less concentrated?)
She still should have asked even if it wasn't obvious. I used to like using peppermint oil to held with nausea and stomach aches (putting it on my stomach or on my neck) but now my skin is very sensitive and I don't think I could do that.
I'm REALLY tired of people clinging to natural=good for you/not as bad. Both of my boys have mild eczema. I remember trying a free sample of borax based, "kid friendly", chemical free, laundry detergent. After one use, any clothes that went through that cycle made my son break out in hives all over his body! It said not to use during pregnancy but nothing about skin sensitivities. I was pretty upset and I'm glad I figured it out pretty quick that it was the stupid detergent. I went back to my Tide Unscented and there have never been issues.
I've been a customer of Melaleuca for maybe 15 or more years. I do not sign up any customers. I have an account and only purchase for my household every month. It doesn't sound like this is coming direct from the company headquarters. Must be a few "reps" (I don't know what else to call them) who are doing this on the side. Knowing what I know about the company, they would shut them down immediately if they knew. Pretty sure it isn't allowed. You never know but I doubt this is coming from anyone legitimately high up in Melaleuca. I've only had good experiences with them and hope her experience is not common.
If I was the influencer who wasn’t able to cancel I would just either get a new debit card or close out my checking account and open another one just to spite them and let the subscription decline 😂
I'm trying to get out of a subscription that won't allow me to cancel. I've had to call my bank's disputes number, and they're working on it now. Hopefully, if nothing else, at least this subscription will end!! Edited to add: My bank won. Woohoo!
What an awful experience to go through with the essential oils but thank goodness MiL respects DiL's and grandbaby's allergies! I've read more than one story where a family member (too often an older one) doesn't respect or even "believe in" another person's allergy and someone suffers for it, physically or emotionally.
My mom is a GI and always speaks against Herbalife to anyone who listens cause it can cause liver damage. She even had a patient in their 30 with acute liver failure, who was frequently using multiple Herbalife products for years.
I will say, I have worked with a legitimate brand who I did get on a phone call with before working with them. They went over who they were (they were fairly new at the time) and what kind of collaborations they offered. The red flag in the story read in this video is definitely the fact that they were holding back all that information in the first call. And bad-mouthing influencers. And an MLM lol.
I love that for that Melaluca story, the guys running the scam failed to see that the common denominator was them. Multiple different influencers and they all got bad vibes from the second meeting? Only thing tying all of these people together is the one pitching the so-called "sponsorship". But those in MLM's can be extremely narcissistic and will swear up and down that you're the issue, never them 🙄
Regarding throwing out the Herbalife tea, I did the same thing when I accidentally went to one of their shops. It was sooo sweet. And the shop I went to made you order a shake and a tea, there wasn’t an option to get one or the other!
What? But American portions are already so huge. And people usually like health shakes before or after gym. Don't drink a lot before or after doing crunches, guys, Coke tastes really weird going back.
I've been a customer shopping at Melaleuca for almost 23 years! I love their products and I shop for what I want every single month! I don't receive an auto-ship.
@@elsagreen1476 yeah me too, idk if its a language barrier, or if that sender cut some details out but they seem way too nonchalant about the whole thing, especially MIL poisoning food 😭
I knew of a father whose daughter sold essential oils and convinced him to get off his heart medication and only use essential oils to “correct” his heart condition. He succumbed to his heart problems while on vacation! I just cant even imagine. The manipulation from these companies and people is crazy.
Thank you for keeping me company as I hand washed my dishes. I know-first world problems. I’m on immunotherapy and having some side effects, so hand washing dishes are a chore…but kinda proud I did it since our dishwasher is not working. I have posted about my side effects and have gotten messages from huns saying they can save me. No thanks-I’ll take science and use my nurse brain! Much love from Gensac, France.
I am happy you are aware that oils are not the magical elixer like the huns claim.. Hope you heal and recover very soon.. It angers much that uneducated greedy huns prey on vulnerable people and claim their oils cure anything and that you should replace evidence based well researched medicines with their overpriced products from a culty company.. Unfortanately some people are desperate they will try anything and can be harmed by these ignorant huns😠
Just discovered your channel and immediately subscribed after watching your first story. So glad you’re educating people about these shady practices, I genuinely don’t understand how they’re legally allowed to do this! 😮 Have you ever talked about Real Estate MLMs? Because they are definitely a thing, and I worked for one as an agent briefly with the caveat that I would never recruit new agents, until I realized how MLM they really are. It is SKETCHY!
I need more info on these! When I worked in Starbucks we had this couple that'd regularly come in and we were certain they were pitching their mlm/pyramid scheme to unsuspecting people. They'd come in and then have a revolving door of people coming and sitting with them for an "interview". At some point I figured out it was some sort of real estate thing (I'm pretty sure it was), and in hindsight I wonder if there was anything we could have/should have done to shut that garbage down, but they were regular, well paying customers, they were pleasant enough, and honestly with the amount of bs I had to deal with while working there busting a pyramid scheme wasn't anywhere near the top of my issues tbh
I have an acquaintance who's deep into one, and it's sad seeing her post from conventions expecting people to be impressed, and of course to see her pitching the business. Can't remember the name of it, but it's obviously an MLM.
Your comments about the smell of young living people is so true! I had a layover in Salt Lake City several years ago and there were several people on our flight in that had that smell. When we got to SLC, the whole airport smelled of it! Come to find out, there was a young living conference that weekend. it was so bad that I ended up with a 3 day migraine
I followed a male influencer who started talking about this company last year and I was intrigued. I kept listening to it as he hyped up this day that was coming. As it got closer, he stopped pitching it as a shopping experience and turned to an employment opportunity. By then, I had started watching your vids and I was like um, no. That sounds like an mlm because they wanted the people to sign up as call operators which i now realize would be someone's downline. Now I see it was Melaluca.
Nose blindness happens way more than anyone knows. My grandma used a specific perfume for years. Everything in her house smelled like it for years after she stopped using it. Really all her stuff didnt stop smelling of the perfume until i started washing her stuff for her. She had no idea that her house and stuff had a scent.
I have a now former friend who was a Mella Lucca customer. I’m not sure if she was a rep or whatever, but she frequently encouraged me to try their products and told me about how wonderful they are. And she tried this SEVERAL times! 🤦🏼♀️ And I always said when I need stuff I go to Target or Walmart and have no intention of doing anything else. No idea it was an MLM!
OH MAN that "influencers become a different person" line is FULLY a deliberate manipulation tactic -- this is exactly how negging is supposed to work (they say something negative so that you work harder to prove them wrong)
GIRL!!! I NEVER lose the eye rolls when watching this channel and it's FOR THE BEST reasons! Keep giving em HECK!!!! Your show is my go to! Thank you!!!!
I live in Nashville and googled this place as you were reading the story, and yep, it’s permanently closed. It was in the Music Row/Vanderbilt area, obviously preying on college students and music industry people.
Yup! We have “The Fit Loon” here in Rochester Minnesota. I’ve never been inside, but it’s so obvious. It’s right next to an outdoorsy secondhand shop and a super popular brunch place. I’ve never seen anyone enter or exit, so I have no idea how they’re still in business
Unless it's a xes shop (some have blacked out windows for a reason), I wouldn't go in either. Esp when it has "nutrition" in its name, which makes it very suspicious to me 😬
The smoothie thing is just suspect. Who buys anything let alone something that you digest from a store that has no name and blacked out windows? Also who buys anything with asking the price?
The young living grandma bought into the "it's natural so it's the best thing for us!" A lot of people don't understand sensitivities. If it works for one, it should work for all. That doesn't take into consideration that everyone is different, mentally and physically. I've grown up sensitive skinned, where I will itch like crazy or have problems breathing, but I never get rashes or hives. So no one ever believes me, including doctors. I feel for that baby, I'm very glad he has parents that put his health first and foremost.
I live i'm Monterrey, MX and the Herbalife "nutrition centers" are painted brigth lime green at the facade and a "Join my club" banner outside. You can't miss them, they are not that hiden here.
Organic compounds are significantly more likely to cause allergic reactions than inorganic compounds. The idea that someone can't understand how someone could have an allergic reaction to a "natural" compound is baffling to me.
Plastic is organic but not natural. Rock is inorganic but natural. I don't think natural is divided into organic and inorganic. It's more organic in the grocery store sense- non genetically modified simple whole heirloom ingredients, and then the opposite is lab made, factory produced or genetically modified, depending on the item. But of course, even that kind of organic is not by default 'good.' Snake venom is organic natural.
Oh my gosh, I've been diffusing Young Living lavender oil, as I watch. It's years and years old. I found it in the depths of my decluttering stash. A lady I met years ago talked me into joining YL, but I wasn't into it! Recently, my apartment has started to smell like something has died. Turns out, my HVAC system is the stinky culprit. So, in the meantime, I've decided to bust out my unused diffuser and old YL lavender essential oil to try and help with the smell. Now, everything just smells like a lavender dead animal, and my chest and eyes are burning. So glad I watched this, because I'm sure the oils are making me feel badly. Love your content, Hannah! You're doing such good things for so many with your knowledge and your heart.
@@jacobus57 Thank you so much for your concern and encouragement. The HVAC technicians came today and did a thorough cleaning. The stinky odors have disappeared and now smells so fresh and clean. The technicians told me the system was incredibly dirty, had trash in it, and looked like it had never been cleaned. I've been here 7 years and this is the first time it's been cleaned since I've moved in. They will stay on top of it from now on. I will not let them forget.
Also using essential oils neat which means using them without a carrier oil to dilute them can very much increase the likelihood of you developing an allergy to them. It is an incredibly dangerous practice to not use a carrier oil. I don't use essential oils for medicinal uses. But I am very sensitive to artificial fragrances so when I want something to smell nice I use essential oils but I never use them without a carrier oil
I'm not an influencer, however I was hounded by the switch away USA. I was suspicious right away, but I had no idea that it was melaleuca until this video!
I ran into an Herbalife nutrition spot in Myrtle Beach! They were peddling “hangover cures” near the downtown area. I had been there at least twice before realizing it was actually an Herbalife front.
I’ve never understood the “it’s natural” argument for why something can’t be an allergen. Peanuts are natural. Bees are natural. Shrimp are natural. Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
The cashier not knowing doesnt seem like a red flag. I worked at a 711, and I assure you I didnt know anything other than our suppliers. Like, I didnt know the nutritional value of the Bang drinks or sandwiches.
Essential oils are EXTREMELY prone to cause allergic reactions. It’s almost common knowledge that they are highly likely to be irritated for skin. Just because it’s natural, does not mean it’s healthy for your skin. I don’t blame the mother, I don’t think the doctor had to say stuff like that to her, rather educate her as doctors are supposed to. Also, I do blame the grandmother for putting her grandchild into risk for irritation and adding oils to the FOOD! Which is a big no!
This video helped me learn what Melaleuca is. They have a store here locally and it totally looks like something I would shop at normally. Thank you for bringing awareness to these mlm brands! I would've never suspected that it was one otherwise.
It should be called “switch-a-roo” because that’s exactly what they’re doing. No wonder all of the influencers “change” on the second call, they are finally given all the information by that point.
Hi, Hannah! I don’t know if you did it already, but you should talk about Royal Prestige’s pans. Just saw a testimony of a woman claiming she used one of those pans ONE TIME to make an egg and the pan already looked old and disgusting. People in her comments were saying the usual: oh, that’s because you don’t know how to use it or the rep didn’t explain that to you. It was sad to see son many reps standing up for a freaking company.
For the melaleuca girl, what I would do is tell her friend to call her bank and report it as a scam and cancel her card. With the credit card not working they can't charge her.
I'm not defending what they did in any way! However, it's not that hard to cancel your account. I use a few of their products, but don't want to be charged $79 every month, so I cancel and then reinstate when I'm ready to order. I've done it over and over many times and it's not that hard to cancel. You can write a note saying please cancel my account with your account number and your signature, take a picture of it and email it to them. They immediately cancel it. I've never had a problem with it.
its a tough situation when dealing with a newborn. I remember when I had my son 18yrs ago and I was essentially alone except for some friends here and there and my son and I didn't leave the house unless it was for a doctors appointment. So I can tell it had to be a rough ordeal when trying to figure out what's causing her little guy to scream!
I use a lot of essential oils never had any problems...but I also know that people "overuse" them! A Diffuser in every room? You only need one in a whole house! Never forget that essential oils are most of the time Nature's Desinfectant or medicine, to protect plants! They are ment to use in a few drops per day not milliliters!!! If you use them, then only in moderation and make absolutely sure they are good quality!
I also developed horrible allergies to detergent immediately following giving birth to my daughter. It wasn’t oils, but turned out to be most laundry detergents. Thankfully I switched and was able to recover from the hives eventually, but it was absolutely the birth that changed things. The same clothes I wore pre-birth caused awful hives wherever they touched. It took some time to find a detergent that didn’t make it happen, but finally did. All this to say, I completely validate first hand that birth can change your body in crazy weird ways!
The way MLMers hide behind terms like “affiliate marketing” is infuriating. Just this morning, I saw a post from a SAHM mom in my mil spouse group ask for ideas to make some supplemental income. One woman commented that she was in “affiliate marketing” and said to DM her. I looked at her page and she’s a Nuskin rep. I called it out. Later, I saw yet another Nuskin rep on the same post saying she had a “remote job that paid very well.” My blood boiled. I have seen way too many mil spouses preyed on by MLMs.
OMG my horrorstory 🤯
Update on the Young Living allergy story: my mother-in-law is starting to question the power of oils because of health issues she has been having which the oils didn't help with at all. Surgery did the trick though. So give a rep enough time I guess
Thank you for writing in!!
@LovedLisa is she still (possibly) putting essential oils in food?
Yay! I'm so glad this is something you and your husband were able to communicate in a way that didn't break up the family. I hope she continues to decrease her dependence on oils and can enjoy a full loving relationship with her grandchild.
I am so sorry about what what happened to you and baby. Glad you posted an update. I hope you help your MIL to getting out. She sounds like she needs it. Good luck!
I hope she makes it out!
Herbalife nutrition shops appear and disappear like those mysterious junk shops in Goosebumps stories. 'I got a tea from that shop yesterday.' 'Yesterday? Honey, that store's been vacant for years!' Random gust of wind blows leaves down the now empty street.
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Oh my gosh!! This is soooo true!
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Bahaha! Your comment is GOLD!! 😂
A friend is a herbalife lady. She is always trying to get me signed up but she's always broke and struggling no matter how hard she works. I can't drink the teas they taste awful
The essential oil smell thing reminds me of how smokers don't notice they stink of cigarettes. I don't smoke, both my parents do. I live in a different country now so whenever they send me a package it smells like cigarettes and I'm like "yep, smells like home" lol. My mom was surprised how it still smells of cigarettes even though she kept it in a room where they don't smoke before sending it. They don't realize their entire home and clothes and everything smells like it because they're so used to it. I'm pretty sure I also smelled like cigarettes back when I lived there even though I've never had a single cigarette and I couldn't smell it on myself either.
Totally off topic, but this comment reminds me of a I had a boss who was meeting a guy she’d been talking to on a dating app. She’s a smoker but she said on her profile that she wasn’t. I should mention he was in Texas and we were in Alaska, and he was flying all the way to AK to meet this woman. So she goes and picks him up, and of course she smells like cigarettes. He ended up staying the weekend but told her that if he’d known she smoked he wouldn’t have even gotten on the flight. She was stunned because she used air fresheners and smoked with her car window down and thought he’d never notice. 🤦🏼♀️
Not only is it olfactory fatigue, but smoking destroys the olfactory nerves and taste buds so it's a cumulative effect.
It seeps into every corner of the house, into the fabric and the walls themselves. Thats why resellers have to specify if its from a non smoking home, because it can reek forever
The smell permeates a home and can move in the air ducts. They would need to tape up the vents and put an air purifier in there and it would probably still smell of cigarettes.
@@hannahcave4403 Yep. My brother and I roomed together for five years. My bedroom was above the kitchen, so when he smoked, it still entered my room. I often had to close my room vent to help lessen (but never fully eliminate) the smell.
Smokers always think that spraying and whatnot eliminates it, and it just doesn't. It stinks and clings to everything and I hate it so much. It was a large part in why I finally had enough and needed my own space. I unfortunately need to share my car right now with my mom, who is also a smoker, but I work from home most days so I'm not in the vehicle as much. I'm waiting until she gets her own before I go to town with cleaning my car. But I still step out of it smelling like her smoke (both cigarettes and weed) 😣
I’m a FedEx delivery driver. Young living and doterra sticks up my truck every day and I can still smell it at the end of my day even if it’s my first delivery. The migraines I get 😭😭
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I feel for you.
Ugh this is awful. Vicks vapor rub works great just under your nose for blocking smells
I have never thought about this!!!!! I am so sorry!!!!
One of my coworkers is obsessed with oils and they make the entire office stink soooo bad. She huffs them like a drug addict i swear to god. She’s also super religious, anti-vax, and thinks her oils can cure her if she gets sick 🙄 she’s an absolute cliche. I don’t think she’s in an MLM (at least that I know of) but she’s been fully brainwashed that essential oils are the answer to all her problems. She even cooks with them and puts them in her drinks. I’m like dude you’re ingesting poison!!!
We often use the phrase "bait and switch" to describe MLM recruitment tactics, but this Melaleuca story sets a new standard. Yikes.
Right? What they did with the debit card info seems like outright fraud
@@FortheLoveofBeesHaving to send a written letter to cancel sounds like absolutely bullcrap as well. It's meant to be as difficult as possible. I bet if a lawyer got involved, they'd figure out how to cancel that card quick and in a hurry, without a letter.
The audacity to use the name Switch Away for a bait and switch is beyond me.
I was coming here specifically to see if anybody’d beaten me to commenting “Switch Away? More like SwitcherOO, amirite??” 😅
Bait and switch is a normal sales tactic. Basically in an mlm you are the product, not the product you are selling. Hence the high turn over rates.
Non mlm version is “sign up for a toaster” then I try to sell you on my service or product.
The antimlmer going rogue and taking over the zoom call hysterical. Truly an inspiration to us all.
Wherever you are, noble warrior, we love you.
That one was my favorite!!! 😂😂😂😂
The oils are natural, it shouldn't cause allergies!
I'm allergic to cherries and i'm sure they aren't made of plastic
Oh nooo I’m sorry. I love cherries.
Yup. I'm allergic to dairy, wheat, eggs, corn and soy!
Poison ivy is natural too
Melons are natural and they make me puff up like a balloon 😢
And I'm actually allergic to plastic! 😂 Prolonged contact brings me out in welts
As for essential oils being all natural, well so is poison ivy!
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👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 yes!
And arsenic
Exactly! Anyone can be allergic to any type of oil, and the allergy can start anytime due to exposure to the oil.
All natural urushiol oil!
It cannot be repeated too often; Natural does NOT mean safe.
Melaleuca situation:
Have the friend go to their bank, and tell them to put a stop payment on the unwanted membership. It usually costs around $35. The bank may be able to flag the business as predatory or fraudulent.
Do they take credit cards? Because I would just call my Cc company and flag them as fraudulent activity.
That is what I was going to suggest too. 😀
The Switch Away scam sounds like a huge FTC violation.
I’m so glad this video exposed it. They need to be heavily fined and shut down.
I hope the author’s friend knows they can and should reverse the charges on their card. If they are in the US, they should also contact their state’s attorney general.
If it were in Canada it would also probably be a PIPEDA and possibly a do not call list violation, in addition to the competition act. It sounds like it is super illegal everywhere. I hope the people who got scammed by them are able to report them and get them shut down.
The one my mom got scammed into was called Patriot Switch. It is the same as this.
It sure does! Classic bait and switch fraud.
Artificial sweeteners are an instant migraine trigger for me. To the point where if I even taste it I will gag because I know my body won’t tolerate it
unrelated to your comment but you are so beautiful! and your hair is GORG
I've discovered a very common sweetener (sucrolose) likely makes me break out. Didn't know sucrolose was even in a drink I liked until I compared it do a similar product that didn't make me break out and didn't have the sweetener.
Me too. Almost all artificial sweeteners cause migraines for me. And so does stevia, which some won't believe because it's "natural" so it couldn't cause migraines...
I'm an artificial sweetener intolerant diabetic, and I feel your pain. Aspartame = instant migraine. Sucralose = feeling food poisoned and very "out of it." ACE-K can do either of these things in the right amounts. It's horrible and why I won't consume anything sweet anywhere they won't disclose their ingredients list.
@@alisong799 oh thank you! This pic is like 12 hair colors ago but thanks for reminding me to update my profile lol
That "but it's natural, how can someone be allergic to it" statement always confuses me...like, have u never heard of a peanut allergy?
Or just freaking hay fever
"It's all natural and comes from the earth!" So is poison ivy, you shouldn't rub that on your skin either.
Uranium is also naturally occurring on this earth😂
Pollen. Cat dander. Eggs. Etc
I'm deathly allergic to bananas. I could eat them when I was a little girl but gradually I became allergic to them. The reactions got worse over time. Now I can't even touch them, much less even think about eating one.
I have other allergies but none of them are as bad as the reactions I get with bananas.
Also allergic to latex badly.
As far as essential oils goes. Eucalyptus and tea tree oils, now to even smell them gives me a skull crusher headache. I don't dare put any of that on my skin.
I'm fully on the fragrance free train.
To OP #2: you are NOT a bad mother!!! You are a great mom because the NANOSECOND you realized what was the problem, you made changes and FIXED THINGS. That's what a good mother does!! You cannot be expected to know EVERYTHING and that "doctor" can shove their diploma where the sun don't shine, pull it back out, and EAT IT for shaming you!!!!
Any doctor that missed the hives or didn't investigate potential irritants after finding them, has themself to blame. The mom had pure guesswork and she did the right thing first.
Absolutely.
And Mom in law is a rare good one - she's legit trying her best and DETOXES. Let's hope she figures it out.
@@draconicfeline6177 dawg she puts essential oils in food and poisons her baby grandson.
Melaleuca in particular always brings a certain ire to my soul whenever I hear about them. I will never forget or forgive that they stole away the last productive years of my grandmother’s life, making her think she was working hard to leave something behind for her kids and grandkids only for all of it to fall to her uplines.
My SIL is currently with them. Hers is under patriot switch. I tried to tell her it was an mlm and she got angry. We've chosen not to discuss it.
My mother in law and Nikken. A very expensive same story....
My friend has a small following on IG and they've roped her into trying to get customers by using her 3k followers asking them to purchase "a wellness box" from "the wellness company" 🙄🙄
25:36 If you ever get looped in automatic shipment, change your debit card or close the bank account and set up a new one. This is sometimes the only way to resolve getting charged for something you don't want.
I don't have one but should, but another option is to maybe get a service that provides fake, one-time debit cards. Write down at the very least the last four digits, though, as you may need them to verify something. I frequnetly have customers calling my job to locate what a transaction was and it's easier for us to look it up by the last four digits used.
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValleyI have heard similar techniques where people will get a secured credit card, or prepay debit. Not only for flexibility to cancel or withhold payment because it's easier to manage that instead of changing everything on your main account. But also for identity protection. If someone steals that card info there's nothing they can do, and good for using on online shopping sites
Thank u for sharing this. A couple months ago my bf wanted me to buy him stuff from the beard club and assumed it was a 1 time thing, well I was wrong and the next month there was a $70 charge on my card. I was freaking out and yelling at my bf to cancel it. Unfortunately I didn't get my $70 back but I got a new box of products to give him next year for his birthday bc he barely uses them 😭
@@lyladaisie That suck but you are so welcome
I'm autistic and didn't realize how gullible I was because of it until I got into anti-MLM content. I truly do think that if I ever saw any of these "opportunity calls" or hun's insta stories in the wild and without your commentary, I'd believe every single word they said. Bless you for making this kind of content and warning vulnerable people like me of the dangers. These women really know how to spin a convincing fairytale to hook you in.
It's so fascinating how we can present so differently. I'm autistic and because of it I am immune to peer pressure, and because of lifelong harassment in order to try to make me crumble to peer pressure, I am naturally suspicious of giving any loyalty or trust to groups. I don't even trust candy that says Made in China.
Your gullibility has nothing to do with autism.
Me too. Love that I found my way into antiMLM land. So helpful and educational.
I have ADHD and am in the process of getting an evaluation for autism as well. I have been a victim of several different multi-level marketing (MLM) scams throughout my adult life because, like you, I fell for the "opportunity call" bait hook, line, and sinker! I'm so glad this channel and others are spreading awareness to vulnerable populations to prevent financial ruin for the intended victims! 😊
Not me lookin around my apartment for my cat when Zeke is meowing in the background because I think it is my cat meowing 😂❤️
Omg my dog and I both thought a cat got into our house! Haha
I did the same thing!
I just did the same 😅
Same 😂
Did I just hear my puppy? Nope. An invisible cat on my phone 😆
I really don’t understand why people don’t call their bank/credit card company in regard to stopping payments on recurring charges.
You can’t always do that. It depends on the purchase agreement/contract.
They may think they can't because they sign something for the money to be taken out. I work for a bank and know for certain if you call them and tell them you have asked the company to stop charging your account, they will count it as fraud and stop the electronic payment. I had to do this with a gym membership once.
not the mother in law still possibly feeding the baby oils!!! so irresponsible after knowing about the allergy :(
Right?? I was furious when I heard that!
As the mother of said baby I was shocked as well. When I confronted her she had to really think hard to realize she had actually put oils in the food. She had been using them for seasoning like salt and pepper
@@LovedLisa I am so sorry that happened to your baby. It boggles my mind how your MIL isn't even aware of what she is doing and that it could make your son sick.
It's so dangerous to eat them like spices omg? Evenmore for a baby allergic or not
Is this ignorance or misinformation? Like did anyone told her it was something good?
@@LovedLisayou need to seriously not allow her to be around the child. It sucks having no support, I am 24 with three children and no one but my husband, but it's better than having a delusional mother in law who could really hurt your toddler. It's not worth it at all. He's a priority over her feelings. She can visit, you shouldn't be eating her food or going there honestly.
Bait-and-Switch Away! What a bunch of conmen.
You describing finding those essential oils in your PO box brought up such strong Brad Pitt in 'Seven' "what's in the box!?!?!" vibes 😅. I love your kind, compassionate approach to these stories, it brings some much-needed kindness into a difficult conversation.
Or the Lake House and those are traveling through time to a prior/future box owner. I do not recommend leaving a response letter.😅
The Primerica "H8ter" guy is my spirit animal 😂. Let's go, dude, you are awesome!
To the Melaluca story, though...that crap sounds so illegal. Also, love how they tried to subtly gaslight the writer by dropping that line about influencers getting "weird" during the second interview, as though already guilt-tripping you into saying yes in the next meeting because "you don't want to be weird, right?"
Not being able to cancel unless you write in a letter makes it so hard to legally prove you wrote and sent the letter. They can claim it was lost in the mail, whereas phone records would provide more definitive proof that you reached out. How very fitting that they want to promote "'Merican jobs!" but it's a scam. Call it my growing disenchantment with capitalism, but yeah...scamming other Americans with this MLM sounds about par for the course.
In my country, many subscription services can be cancelled through a trackable letter with a notification that it reached its destination. Does that not exist in the US?
I have sent a story a while back and Hannah had read it. About how my aunt and sister tried talking me into Mary Kay for the free car. The disabled people (such as myself) are targeted a lot.
After the Mary Kay run in, I was asked by an Arbonne hun if I would like to WORK with her. I made a post about how difficult it was finding a job/getting one bc of said reasons. She sent me a voice message saying she found my post and felt like she had to reach out and that I could easily do it. The disabled community are highly sought out.
Usually, the hun would do one of these two things. They would target the person who has a disability or go to a parent (typically a mother) who has a disabled child and try to get them to do the marketing based off their child needs etc.
One of the most common medical diagnosis I have seen targeted myself are people with ADHD or Autism. Especially if it's an oil based MLM. I watch many Anti-MLM channels that talks about this. The huns behavior absolutely disgusts me. They have no knowledge of said issues or seem to genuinely care.
My local Facebook groups are seeing a LOT of posts from huns looking to "hire" people to help them answer e-mails or return phone calls and such. They target stay at home moms and disabled people specifically, and if you respond they try to talk you into joining their company. If you ask if they are MLM / Network Marketing / etc., they block you.
I don't think the company is around anymore because I looked a few months ago and can't find them anywhere, except for people illegally selling their jewelry on websites like Ebay, but I have Spina Bifida and a "friend's" (we no longer speak) mother almost roped me into Premier Jewelry! I had my party in the corner of a Panera and literally NOBODY came! I was pissed then, but I'm so grateful now because let's say because of my disability people pitied me and always bought stuff so I was actually able to afford an apartment of my own. Once that MLM went under I would've ended up right back in a situation where I was living with (abusive) family. It would've hurt more to actually escape and end up back where I started than to not really know what I'm missing!
I am sorry that you were targeted and I agree that how they target disabled and neurodivergent groups as well as SAHMs are disgusting. I really wish there was more we can do.
Absolutely I can confirm after my car accidents and my autism diagnosis I got targeted even more. I had to leave social media for a while as the huns in my town were directly harassing they even came to my 9-5 job after I left social media.
@@slowdownbuddy why don't you have your social media private, and if someone does weasel I'm why don't you just block them? You don't have to burn it all down.
Zeke is so adorable giving his opinions in the background!
I always appreciate hearing from his purrspective.
You are both mistaken this is his channel he allows his hooman to share videos when he wants it.
I was involved with Primerica for about two months which was two months too long. A couple days after joining and starting the process, I googled the company just to learn more and I was bombarded with so many articles and videos taking about how it was a scam and an MLM. I felt so dumb. Luckily I got out without looking like too much an idiot to other people in my life
Ugh, sorry they did that to you. Hope you found a real agency to work with.
AO,AIL,GLOBE LIFE, Symmetry are similar.
Insurance can be very mlms but the koolaid ones are the worst
I understand how you feel, just know that they are predators, they are pros. You are not at fault here. You got out so quickly!
Damn. You should’ve at least gotten your licenses and let them pay for the majority of the cost. Life insurance, securities, and mortgage lending looks great on a resume!
Been seeing a LOT of comments from people talking about meleluca cleaning supplies…. Especially on the “chemical free” side of tiktok but for some reason when I point out it’s an MLM (which they always leave out) I get blocked. 😂
Yes!! Hadn't heard about them for a decade and now they are back. Ngl, some of the products are great but the price, the subscription... Not worth it.
@@catherineroth4530 there are always comparable products from other brands that don’t exploit their barely paid “reps” 😅 I feel that way about pampered chef…. Love their stuff, if I find it for sale used, I buy it…. But otherwise gotta find something else. 😅
Melaleuca lied to me, but this is a whole new level of deception and ugly behaviors. Thank you for the heads up!
I asked if they had auto ship bc I wanted to just get a few products but not having to pay every month. They said no. Thank goodness I checked bc they will charge you every month and to cancel is a pain in the butt
I'M FIRST! I'VE NEVER CARED BEFORE BUT NOW I GET IT!
Lmao 🤣
Congratulations!!!!! 🎉
Welcome. Hannah is amazing at explaining things.
Omg I just reread this. I thought it said this was the first video you were seeing and now "got it" about mlms lol
It's like finding the legendary Dorito intact covered in flavor dust. It happens but it takes so many stars to align 😊
I like to watch these while I work or draw. Sometimes I genuinely have to pause just to ask myself what the hell I just heard
Right!?!
Yes!! Or back it up just to re listen to something!
Thinking about the essential oils in the feeding tube… I’m not just concerned about degrading the tube.. but also that degraded the plastic and silicone will be then going into her body as well. Truly sickening that someone would give such harmful advice
I love when I’m bingeing and then refresh to a new video!!!
Currently drafting a “horror story” of my own, as I now realize I was roped into an “MLM” type situation as a 8 YEAR OLD!?
WHAT???
Me too!
I live for my cats freaking out when Zeke gets needy. You are doing the Lord’s work, Hannah! Much love to you and your beautiful family
Shame on that Dr. shaming a mother who thought she was doing her best. You can educate without shaming. I hope that mother isn’t beating herself up. Her intentions were good. When you know better, you do better.
I was part of Melalueca for a couple months. I was intrigued with the non-toxic and safer products for our family. We tried quite a few products, but ultimately only liked the laundry detergent and a few body products. I was disappointed and cancelled our membership because I couldn’t spend $80+ monthly just on laundry detergent. It would create a stockpile quickly. Canceling was easy though. Print a page, sign and date, take a screenshot and email to customer care. They responded quickly and our membership was cancelled with no more charges. Occasionally I get an email from them inviting us back, but I just delete it. If the monthly purchase wasn’t a requirement, we would still purchase things here and there
I am a current customer and have been for 15 years. I love the products. The story of the guys trying to lure the influencer in as an affiliate was a total scam and that is not how Melaleuca operates. Those guys need to be reported.
would you believe me if I told you there’s not even non toxic and have harmful ingredients just like what’s in your grocery stores 😭😭😭
That’s not an easy process, that process is ridiculous to me. You should simply be able to click cancel and that’s it.
If you get charged by a company, in this case, Melaluca, and they are refusing to cancel the subscription. You can contact your bank or credit card company and put a stop payment stating that they are refusing to cancel the subscription. Then dispute the charges.
I'm disabled physically and have mental health issues. I can't tell you how many people have pitched their oils to me. I've bought some oils on my own because I do believe diffusing lavender helps destress me. But this was not based on a suggestion from a hun. I was at a massage therapist's office, I noticed that something was put into the air and it added to my relaxation. Thankfully, she was not a hun and told me that it was lavendar oil.
Yes, simple aromatherapy is legitimate, and not because the oils are magic but because scent is an extremely powerful sense that can greatly affect our mood. Some make you calm and sleepy, some wake you up, some open a clogged nose, etc etc. Patchouli oil whiffed out the bottle opens my nose up faster than any vaporub.
If I got a dollar for every time an oily person said oils could cure me, I'd have several hundred dollars to buy my OTC meds and pads.
Pregnancy has the common effect of having lower overall immunity. A lot is taken by the baby, even if you use supplements. Because of this, a lot of women become allergic to a lot of things during that period, sometimes even reacting on/off to some things. For example, my sister became allergic to gluten, sugar, milk and tbh everything inbetween. It's because it's an autoimmune allergic reaction, not a specific allergy.
Not sure if it's autoimmune in nature but it's a well-described phenomenon. See my comment below
It's actually a HIGHLY ACTIVATED immune system, not lowered immunity.
I always love the "its 100% natural"...my reply is usually "ASBESTOS is 100% Natural.."
Right?? Also, even if it is actually healthy and natural... so are peanuts, unless you're allergic 🙄
@torihobsoncpt lol. Agreed. What happened to your channel? We share an intrest.
@sargeoutdoors thanks for reminding me to update my profile with my tiktok and insta handles 😅 i got away from using CZcams professionally because the formatting was different from the other social media platforms
I’m looking into opening my own small business. I’m proud to say I’m opening a dog treat bakery! No mlm here!
Are you going to do cat treats, so you can send some to Zeke and Cooper?
@@maryeckel9682 I didn't think of that! I'll have to look up some recipes!
That's the cutest business ever omg. You're like an Animal Crossing character
@@elsagreen1476 just a dog lover!
As a massage therapist who uses essential oils or things I will not buy from MLM’s there are things that it can help with sure. It can’t hear anything. But we never use them for babies or pregnant women it is a safety/health hazard. The fact that some of these so-called medical industry people don’t know this stuff is beyond me.
I recently moved to a new city and went to see a massage therapist I had never seen before. She was great but at the end she put some pepperminty type of oil all over my lower back. She didn’t ask me ahead of time and I was shocked and didn’t know what to say! I’m pregnant and it definitely freaked me out!
@@hannahfoster7941Oof, hopefully it was just peppermint scented massage oils and not straight peppermint essentials. Were you visibly pregnant?
@@demo2823I asked her what it was and she said it was some essential oil blend! It felt super cold on my back for a while. She knew I was pregnant, yes!
What brands would you recommend? The only non MLM ones I know about are the Walmart ones and they don't work as well (maybe they're less concentrated?)
She still should have asked even if it wasn't obvious. I used to like using peppermint oil to held with nausea and stomach aches (putting it on my stomach or on my neck) but now my skin is very sensitive and I don't think I could do that.
I'm REALLY tired of people clinging to natural=good for you/not as bad. Both of my boys have mild eczema. I remember trying a free sample of borax based, "kid friendly", chemical free, laundry detergent. After one use, any clothes that went through that cycle made my son break out in hives all over his body! It said not to use during pregnancy but nothing about skin sensitivities. I was pretty upset and I'm glad I figured it out pretty quick that it was the stupid detergent. I went back to my Tide Unscented and there have never been issues.
Borax is very allergenic! I use All Free and Clear.
24:04 wait… is that why their front is called “Switch Away”??? 😂
I've been a customer of Melaleuca for maybe 15 or more years. I do not sign up any customers. I have an account and only purchase for my household every month. It doesn't sound like this is coming direct from the company headquarters. Must be a few "reps" (I don't know what else to call them) who are doing this on the side. Knowing what I know about the company, they would shut them down immediately if they knew. Pretty sure it isn't allowed. You never know but I doubt this is coming from anyone legitimately high up in Melaleuca. I've only had good experiences with them and hope her experience is not common.
That's my story, too! I have no desire to be a 'seller', but love the cleaning and laundry products.
I’ve been a customer for around 6 months and that’s been my experience as well.
If I was the influencer who wasn’t able to cancel I would just either get a new debit card or close out my checking account and open another one just to spite them and let the subscription decline 😂
I'm trying to get out of a subscription that won't allow me to cancel. I've had to call my bank's disputes number, and they're working on it now. Hopefully, if nothing else, at least this subscription will end!!
Edited to add: My bank won. Woohoo!
That's what I do after leaving a subscription as a just in case, & put an old gift card in its place if they try to sneak taking money out still 😆
The Primerica Zoom takeover is delightful. I love that this was an organic encounter.
What an awful experience to go through with the essential oils but thank goodness MiL respects DiL's and grandbaby's allergies! I've read more than one story where a family member (too often an older one) doesn't respect or even "believe in" another person's allergy and someone suffers for it, physically or emotionally.
If doesn't sound like she's truly respectful. Rather, it's more like she grudgingly has made some adjustments, but not nearly enough.
My mom is a GI and always speaks against Herbalife to anyone who listens cause it can cause liver damage. She even had a patient in their 30 with acute liver failure, who was frequently using multiple Herbalife products for years.
I witnessed my friend who was big in Primerica recruit someone to be a financial counselor who mere weeks prior could not pay their electric bill.
I will say, I have worked with a legitimate brand who I did get on a phone call with before working with them. They went over who they were (they were fairly new at the time) and what kind of collaborations they offered. The red flag in the story read in this video is definitely the fact that they were holding back all that information in the first call. And bad-mouthing influencers. And an MLM lol.
I love that for that Melaluca story, the guys running the scam failed to see that the common denominator was them. Multiple different influencers and they all got bad vibes from the second meeting? Only thing tying all of these people together is the one pitching the so-called "sponsorship". But those in MLM's can be extremely narcissistic and will swear up and down that you're the issue, never them 🙄
I don’t know how it’s possible but I’ve watched all of your MLM content😭 I need more lol
I know! Every day would still not be long enough
Same for me
Regarding throwing out the Herbalife tea, I did the same thing when I accidentally went to one of their shops. It was sooo sweet. And the shop I went to made you order a shake and a tea, there wasn’t an option to get one or the other!
That is so shady!
Yes! You have to buy both! So weird
What? But American portions are already so huge. And people usually like health shakes before or after gym. Don't drink a lot before or after doing crunches, guys, Coke tastes really weird going back.
I've been a customer shopping at Melaleuca for almost 23 years! I love their products and I shop for what I want every single month! I don't receive an auto-ship.
People thinking that they can eat Essential Oils gives me people eating tide pod vibes.
Bruh I'm actually worried for that lady's mother-in-law and her loved ones...
@@elsagreen1476 yeah me too, idk if its a language barrier, or if that sender cut some details out but they seem way too nonchalant about the whole thing, especially MIL poisoning food 😭
I knew of a father whose daughter sold essential oils and convinced him to get off his heart medication and only use essential oils to “correct” his heart condition. He succumbed to his heart problems while on vacation! I just cant even imagine. The manipulation from these companies and people is crazy.
The number of people that MLMs have straight up gotten killed is CRAZY.
Thank you for keeping me company as I hand washed my dishes. I know-first world problems. I’m on immunotherapy and having some side effects, so hand washing dishes are a chore…but kinda proud I did it since our dishwasher is not working. I have posted about my side effects and have gotten messages from huns saying they can save me. No thanks-I’ll take science and use my nurse brain! Much love from Gensac, France.
I am happy you are aware that oils are not the magical elixer like the huns claim.. Hope you heal and recover very soon.. It angers much that uneducated greedy huns prey on vulnerable people and claim their oils cure anything and that you should replace evidence based well researched medicines with their overpriced products from a culty company.. Unfortanately some people are desperate they will try anything and can be harmed by these ignorant huns😠
Well wishes to you!
These oil stories are just too much. Can’t even imagine thinking oils are magic like that.
putting essential oils in food is CRAZY! no matter how "organic and all natural" it is, it is NOT food grade!
Just discovered your channel and immediately subscribed after watching your first story. So glad you’re educating people about these shady practices, I genuinely don’t understand how they’re legally allowed to do this! 😮
Have you ever talked about Real Estate MLMs? Because they are definitely a thing, and I worked for one as an agent briefly with the caveat that I would never recruit new agents, until I realized how MLM they really are. It is SKETCHY!
I need more info on these! When I worked in Starbucks we had this couple that'd regularly come in and we were certain they were pitching their mlm/pyramid scheme to unsuspecting people. They'd come in and then have a revolving door of people coming and sitting with them for an "interview". At some point I figured out it was some sort of real estate thing (I'm pretty sure it was), and in hindsight I wonder if there was anything we could have/should have done to shut that garbage down, but they were regular, well paying customers, they were pleasant enough, and honestly with the amount of bs I had to deal with while working there busting a pyramid scheme wasn't anywhere near the top of my issues tbh
I have an acquaintance who's deep into one, and it's sad seeing her post from conventions expecting people to be impressed, and of course to see her pitching the business. Can't remember the name of it, but it's obviously an MLM.
@@maryeckel9682 Keller Williams?
Your comments about the smell of young living people is so true! I had a layover in Salt Lake City several years ago and there were several people on our flight in that had that smell. When we got to SLC, the whole airport smelled of it! Come to find out, there was a young living conference that weekend. it was so bad that I ended up with a 3 day migraine
I followed a male influencer who started talking about this company last year and I was intrigued. I kept listening to it as he hyped up this day that was coming. As it got closer, he stopped pitching it as a shopping experience and turned to an employment opportunity. By then, I had started watching your vids and I was like um, no. That sounds like an mlm because they wanted the people to sign up as call operators which i now realize would be someone's downline. Now I see it was Melaluca.
People who are sensitive to artificial sweetners tend to be REALLY sensitive to them and even a small amount can cause a lot discomfort.
Having to avoid aspartame because it gives migraines and causes violent mood swings but it was Ev-Re-Where for years as the default/only alternative.
Have never tolerated artificial sweetners. Instant stomach pains.
Nose blindness happens way more than anyone knows. My grandma used a specific perfume for years. Everything in her house smelled like it for years after she stopped using it. Really all her stuff didnt stop smelling of the perfume until i started washing her stuff for her. She had no idea that her house and stuff had a scent.
I am soooo glad you have this channel. My aunt was burned for $80K back in the 80's with Amway. I was warned at an early age these pyramid schemes.
I'm convinced that Melaleuca has more aliases than everyone in the CIA combined at this point.
Plot twist melaleuca IS a CIA front 😅
I have a now former friend who was a Mella Lucca customer. I’m not sure if she was a rep or whatever, but she frequently encouraged me to try their products and told me about how wonderful they are.
And she tried this SEVERAL times! 🤦🏼♀️
And I always said when I need stuff I go to Target or Walmart and have no intention of doing anything else.
No idea it was an MLM!
OH MAN that "influencers become a different person" line is FULLY a deliberate manipulation tactic -- this is exactly how negging is supposed to work (they say something negative so that you work harder to prove them wrong)
My brother and his family have that “oil” smell. It’s quite strong.
GIRL!!! I NEVER lose the eye rolls when watching this channel and it's FOR THE BEST reasons! Keep giving em HECK!!!! Your show is my go to! Thank you!!!!
Stevia gives me terrible migraines and it tastes super sweet so I feel it could be that in the tea
And stevia is "natural;" it's a species of mint. I can't tolerate it either.
I live in Nashville and googled this place as you were reading the story, and yep, it’s permanently closed. It was in the Music Row/Vanderbilt area, obviously preying on college students and music industry people.
Yup! We have “The Fit Loon” here in Rochester Minnesota. I’ve never been inside, but it’s so obvious. It’s right next to an outdoorsy secondhand shop and a super popular brunch place. I’ve never seen anyone enter or exit, so I have no idea how they’re still in business
There's something about blacked-out windows for a restaurant that is a red-flag, for me.
Yeah. First, why go in? Second, how can you not know the price of your purchase?
Unless it's a xes shop (some have blacked out windows for a reason), I wouldn't go in either. Esp when it has "nutrition" in its name, which makes it very suspicious to me 😬
The smoothie thing is just suspect. Who buys anything let alone something that you digest from a store that has no name and blacked out windows? Also who buys anything with asking the price?
I agree. I guess there's a lot of stupid out there.
The young living grandma bought into the "it's natural so it's the best thing for us!"
A lot of people don't understand sensitivities. If it works for one, it should work for all.
That doesn't take into consideration that everyone is different, mentally and physically.
I've grown up sensitive skinned, where I will itch like crazy or have problems breathing, but I never get rashes or hives.
So no one ever believes me, including doctors.
I feel for that baby, I'm very glad he has parents that put his health first and foremost.
Your empathy and gratitude are inspiring. Thank you for your content.
I live i'm Monterrey, MX and the Herbalife "nutrition centers" are painted brigth lime green at the facade and a "Join my club" banner outside. You can't miss them, they are not that hiden here.
Organic compounds are significantly more likely to cause allergic reactions than inorganic compounds. The idea that someone can't understand how someone could have an allergic reaction to a "natural" compound is baffling to me.
Plastic is organic but not natural. Rock is inorganic but natural. I don't think natural is divided into organic and inorganic. It's more organic in the grocery store sense- non genetically modified simple whole heirloom ingredients, and then the opposite is lab made, factory produced or genetically modified, depending on the item. But of course, even that kind of organic is not by default 'good.' Snake venom is organic natural.
@@demo2823 they didn't say "natural/unnatural;" the days "organic/inorganic," as in the actual CHEMICAL, not commonly misunderstood meaning.
Oh my gosh, I've been diffusing Young Living lavender oil, as I watch. It's years and years old. I found it in the depths of my decluttering stash. A lady I met years ago talked me into joining YL, but I wasn't into it! Recently, my apartment has started to smell like something has died. Turns out, my HVAC system is the stinky culprit.
So, in the meantime, I've decided to bust out my unused diffuser and old YL lavender essential oil to try and help with the smell. Now, everything just smells like a lavender dead animal, and my chest and eyes are burning. So glad I watched this, because I'm sure the oils are making me feel badly. Love your content, Hannah! You're doing such good things for so many with your knowledge and your heart.
You are in a VERY unhealthy situation. Please, please demand resolution or report to the authorities. An HVAC system should not have any odor.
@@jacobus57 Thank you so much for your concern and encouragement. The HVAC technicians came today and did a thorough cleaning. The stinky odors have disappeared and now smells so fresh and clean.
The technicians told me the system was incredibly dirty, had trash in it, and looked like it had never been cleaned. I've been here 7 years and this is the first time it's been cleaned since I've moved in. They will stay on top of it from now on. I will not let them forget.
The Anti-Primerica Avenger is hilarious!!! I am dying!!!!! ^_^
Also using essential oils neat which means using them without a carrier oil to dilute them can very much increase the likelihood of you developing an allergy to them. It is an incredibly dangerous practice to not use a carrier oil. I don't use essential oils for medicinal uses. But I am very sensitive to artificial fragrances so when I want something to smell nice I use essential oils but I never use them without a carrier oil
I hate that the Young Living lady seems to still be putting essential oils in food. That makes me so angry!
So sad that people are so uninformed about essential oils. I have sensitive skin so I always knew essential oils were not it!
I'm not an influencer, however I was hounded by the switch away USA. I was suspicious right away, but I had no idea that it was melaleuca until this video!
If the grandmother is knowingly feeding something to their grandchild their allergic to is flat out poisoning that child!
She said in a comment the grandmother refuses to cook for the child now so this makes me question if gma really is the problem.
I ran into an Herbalife nutrition spot in Myrtle Beach! They were peddling “hangover cures” near the downtown area. I had been there at least twice before realizing it was actually an Herbalife front.
I’ve never understood the “it’s natural” argument for why something can’t be an allergen. Peanuts are natural. Bees are natural. Shrimp are natural. Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
My brother had an allergic reaction to kiwi 🥝! His throat swelled up and he couldn’t breathe 😮
@@CDForney I had floating allergies as a child. I grew out of most of them. Only allergic to ants now.
The cashier not knowing doesnt seem like a red flag. I worked at a 711, and I assure you I didnt know anything other than our suppliers. Like, I didnt know the nutritional value of the Bang drinks or sandwiches.
Essential oils are EXTREMELY prone to cause allergic reactions. It’s almost common knowledge that they are highly likely to be irritated for skin.
Just because it’s natural, does not mean it’s healthy for your skin.
I don’t blame the mother, I don’t think the doctor had to say stuff like that to her, rather educate her as doctors are supposed to.
Also, I do blame the grandmother for putting her grandchild into risk for irritation and adding oils to the FOOD! Which is a big no!
I can’t think of a better CZcamsr to cover this.
**grabs snack and settles in…**
This video helped me learn what Melaleuca is. They have a store here locally and it totally looks like something I would shop at normally. Thank you for bringing awareness to these mlm brands! I would've never suspected that it was one otherwise.
It should be called “switch-a-roo” because that’s exactly what they’re doing. No wonder all of the influencers “change” on the second call, they are finally given all the information by that point.
Hi, Hannah! I don’t know if you did it already, but you should talk about Royal Prestige’s pans. Just saw a testimony of a woman claiming she used one of those pans ONE TIME to make an egg and the pan already looked old and disgusting. People in her comments were saying the usual: oh, that’s because you don’t know how to use it or the rep didn’t explain that to you. It was sad to see son many reps standing up for a freaking company.
It's wild to me that someone would let their bank account be charged every month and not just call and cancel/change their debit card.
For the melaleuca girl, what I would do is tell her friend to call her bank and report it as a scam and cancel her card. With the credit card not working they can't charge her.
I'm not defending what they did in any way! However, it's not that hard to cancel your account. I use a few of their products, but don't want to be charged $79 every month, so I cancel and then reinstate when I'm ready to order. I've done it over and over many times and it's not that hard to cancel. You can write a note saying please cancel my account with your account number and your signature, take a picture of it and email it to them. They immediately cancel it. I've never had a problem with it.
its a tough situation when dealing with a newborn. I remember when I had my son 18yrs ago and I was essentially alone except for some friends here and there and my son and I didn't leave the house unless it was for a doctors appointment. So I can tell it had to be a rough ordeal when trying to figure out what's causing her little guy to scream!
My work day just got better!!! Gonna listen to this😂❤ thanks Hannah!!!
Monday blues BEGONE
I use a lot of essential oils never had any problems...but I also know that people "overuse" them! A Diffuser in every room? You only need one in a whole house!
Never forget that essential oils are most of the time Nature's Desinfectant or medicine, to protect plants! They are ment to use in a few drops per day not milliliters!!!
If you use them, then only in moderation and make absolutely sure they are good quality!
I also developed horrible allergies to detergent immediately following giving birth to my daughter. It wasn’t oils, but turned out to be most laundry detergents. Thankfully I switched and was able to recover from the hives eventually, but it was absolutely the birth that changed things. The same clothes I wore pre-birth caused awful hives wherever they touched. It took some time to find a detergent that didn’t make it happen, but finally did. All this to say, I completely validate first hand that birth can change your body in crazy weird ways!
The way MLMers hide behind terms like “affiliate marketing” is infuriating. Just this morning, I saw a post from a SAHM mom in my mil spouse group ask for ideas to make some supplemental income. One woman commented that she was in “affiliate marketing” and said to DM her. I looked at her page and she’s a Nuskin rep. I called it out. Later, I saw yet another Nuskin rep on the same post saying she had a “remote job that paid very well.” My blood boiled. I have seen way too many mil spouses preyed on by MLMs.