Watch as Cliffe Knechtle responds to an atheist's attempt to discredit the Bible by questioning where Cain got his wife. Cliffe's powerful response will blow your mind!
A more apportiate analogy would be if your teachers told you lincoln was the first president and then proceeded to tell you about the presidents before Lincoln
Well the science books did say Pangea was caused by a random shift in tectonic plates BEFORE humans yet the Bible told us thousands of years ago that “the continental drift” race and language are all a punishment for creating the Tower of Babel, long before scientists discovered Pangea this was in the Bible yet they add lies to discredit god Big part of the reason I’m not convinced dinosaurs existed, they still could’ve that doesn’t disprove god, but I’m not convinced these fossils aren’t A completely fake or B made up from different animals and were just told a fake story. If the Bible is made up by the people in power for control and it’s all lies, aren’t the same people in control also in charge of the science and history books? But that’s not a lie even though it’s the same people? Are u really too smart for god or are u denying him for another reason?(talking rhetorically to an atheist not to u lol)
@SimonSaid78 Dude asked a reasonable question, and was attacked with name-calling and word games instead of a humble answer. This Cliff guy just showed himself to be a con man.
Maybe I'm imagining it, but it seems like the video has been sped up at some points to make Cliff seem angry. I've watched him enough times that this doesn't seem like his usual speech patterns when he's being assertive.
dwelt in the land of Nod and that's where Cain got his wife. There were people created before Adam. Read and study. I do, and you can too. Charles A Jennings has a sermon on this subject, go look it up, he clears the hurdle.
The problem is the bible come from god🎅 so he must know threre dinosaur🐊, why the bible not explain "in the past there giant lizard roaming the earth for long time" that can be proof bible the word of god🎅.
No, the Bible says that all the creations of god were put in an ark. Where they conveniently leave out every single dinosaur that has ever existed? No mention of one?
Cain's wife was likely his sister. At that time, incest did not exist as a moral or social issue. It wasn't considered a problem to start a family with a close relative until much later, around the time of Noah. This explanation makes sense to me. People often focus on minor details, but the Bible's purpose is not to explain everything in detail; rather, it is to guide people toward redemption. 🙏🏻❤
If you read the book of Adam and Eve it says Cain and Abel both had twin sisters and they were to marry their twin. Abels sister was very beautiful and Cains looked like shriek so one of the main reasons Cain kill Abel was to marry Abels twin sister.
@@_BillyMandalay he brings up a good point. Why does the Bible have to say where the wife came from? Because it’s pivotal to the story. Not naming every specific animal is not.
The term dinosaur was established back in the early 1800’s, they were known as Thunder Lizards, but way before then most likely they were known as Dragons. You have a lot of depictions around the world of Dinosaurs living amongst men from ancient artifacts. Behemoth was indeed one of God’s greatest creations besides Leviathan. Behemoth has the very description of what we know as the Brontosaurus and the description is very fitting other than what we see labeled as an elephant or a hippo . Behemoth description is a creature that eats from the field of grass, has bone like iron, and has tail that sways like a cedar tree, as you see here which animal fits the description: 🦕🐘🦛 Leviathan was known to have smoke emanate from his nostrils, and sparks would come from its mouth which indicates that it could breathe fire, well we have venomous snakes, poisonous spiders, and fish that can produce electricity such as Electric Rays, or Electric Eels. Either leviathan is well deceased, or dwells deep within the ocean, and only 5% of the ocean has been discovered. So why spend billions of dollars to fly rockets and satellites into space, when billions can be spent to discover the rest of 95% of our own ocean? If we read the book of Genesis, the book of Enoch, and even the book of Revelations, we learn that there were giants on the earth, but they were hybrids created by the fallen Angels that impregnated woman with fair skin and long hair (this is why some countries have adopted and followed the traditional head coverings for females in my opinion), as much evil there was on earth during those times the great flood wasn’t only due to the amount of sin, but it was to destroy the descendants of the fallen Angels, and of course the angels that were disobedient, were locked in chains in "The Abyss".
@@tonypatino1765 great response. Semantics is such a simple place to create an arguement and just as simply can it be shut down if people used common sense
This is clearly an older clip brought back to short videos. But I can see why an insincere question would spark frustration in anyone...he just openly called him out...
You’ll think the Bible is just a book but realize that Jesus fulfilled scripture to the letter and he also said he’s coming back. Believe it, he’s coming.
People can act to fulfill "prophecy" or others can claim that it did based on vague predictions. I'm not a mythicist but I'm skeptical about a physical Jesus Christ having existed.
@@user-yh7jp4ey2b Really hung up on those dinosaurs huh? Be a shame to be in front of the living GOD and explain that was your biggest concern was dinosaurs so you didn’t dig any further to understand truth.
James 2 Faith without works is dead. Have to have works to go with it. We're called to give aid to those in need and to care for the widows. That's our works. Have to have both to please God right??
The bible is a collection of stories from other cultures and religions from all over the world. It all dates back to the Ancient Sumerian's of the Mesopotamia. Simple research would corroborate the ancient texts from The Emerald Tablets, Dead Sea Scrolls, Mahabharata, Epic of Gilgamesh, etc.. That's why the Book of Enoch was removed. You know because it talks about Enoch flying around in a craft with "a like human species" to the edge of the atmosphere to be shown the Earth is a globe, etc.. The bible IS JUST A BOOK of morals. Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth B.I.B.L.E When I say leaving earth, I mean death.
@@MSFTS_DECAY thank god you told us that because we would never have figured out that it meant death without that . CLOSE ONE HUH ? :P but here's a plot twist. what if LEAVING EARTH Actually means LEAVING EARTH TO GO TO ANOTHER PLANET. what if, All god is is an alien on another planet and on that planet he monitors this planet and the point is to see which planet you are worthy of being on so... heaven is a planet Hell is another planet it would absolutely make sense if that's all it was
@@martinkuliza lol that’s what you chose to be picky about? Most religious people consider “leaving earth” as going to “heaven”. When you edited your comment you should have just erased the whole first sentence. I believe you’re on to something when it comes to the alien theory.
@@MSFTS_DECAY LOL........ so we get off on the right foot, ok 1. "lol that’s what you chose to be picky about? " NO I WASN'T BEING PICKY, I was just in a mood where i wanted to joke around a bit. I like Mucking around. so i just decided to take the piss when i saw your comment You were like "Leaving earth means .. Dying" i was like "LOL... awww i'm gonna have some fun here" LOL it's not personal. 2. As for editing. I don't think i did edit my comment. maybe to change 1 letter or extra space at the end, but.. i don't think i edited my comment. But.. i'm not 100% sure on that though. 3. Now let's just touch on that Best instructions before leaving earth thingy. Look, i'm 51. Unfortunately, i'm old enough to remember HOW THAT SAYING STARTED. And i'm not calling you stupid here, i'm just saying i've seen people take this dead serious. you see... somewhere in the late 80s i started hearing people say B.I.B.L.E = Best Instructions Before leaving earth NOW.. in the 70s you never saw B.I.B.L.E. it was always BIBLE or HOLY BIBLE and we didn't have Atheist's or Theists or whatever. there were 2 types of people in the world and this is how we spoke "Hi mate, How are you , My name is [Your name]" INTRODUTIONS...ALWAYS !!! CAME FIRST. it was respect, followed by (only when relevant) "so.. Do you believe in god or not ?" there were only 2 answers ever ! Yes No We didn't start with "so.. Are you Christian or Atheist" we started with our first names. Now... if was not a believer in god and you were, WE SPOKE AS HUMAN BEINGS AND RESPECTED EACH OTHER Non Believers didn't have Believers and Believers didn't hate non believers Now.. when the anagram B.I.B.L.E was created IT GENUINELY STARTED AS A JOKE it sort of tied in with B.T.O. = Bachman Turner Overdrive G.F.R. = Grand Funk Railroad then of course W.A.S.P. = White Anglo Saxon Protestants at the time Stryper was a big influence on people and they followed a theme that W.A.S.P. Created, that being... Throwing pieces of raw meat out into the Audience so Stryper comes up with this idea..... 1. W.A.S.P. are evil, they have pig heads on a pike, they have pentagrams at concerts and they throw raw pieces of meat into the audience 2. Let's cast away these satanic worshippers LOL (as if Blackie Lawless EVER Worshipped Satan) This is W.A.S.P. Not Mayhem LMFAO 3. i HAVE AN IDEA... let's throw bibles out in the audience while we sing our Christian Metal such as To Hell with the Devil and Honestly . so a little while later, someone comes out with B.I.B.L.E BEST INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EARTH and it is rumoured this ties in with , The Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy. Anyway, i remember when it started. IT WAS A JOKE and everyone took it as such. BY THE 90S, YOU HAVE PEOPLE TAKING THIS CRAP SERIOUSLY. Now to those of us that know how it started, this was bloody hilarious TODAY.. I actually have Jehovah's witnesses that come to my door, Look me dead in the eye with the utmost seriousness and say "do you know what BIBLE stands for ?" then they tell me then they assert,.... See.. this is an instruction manual, it's god's instructions to us before leaving earth NO IT'S NOT YOU MORON, IT WAS INVENTED IN THE 80S BY MY GENERATION. it was a joke and god had nothing to do with it. Amazing that people actually think that god had something to do with that So, i'm in the fortunate position of having had FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE OF HOW THAT STARTED I assure you, God was not there LOL But then again... Slayer (When the PMRC Came out) Created a song called DISCIPLE - GOD HATES US ALL that was a piss take, it was never expected to be taken seriously for too long YET ... TO THIS DAY , Christians will go on about slayer being devil worshippers THAT'S ALL RUBBISH it was a test to see if the Baby Boomer christians were stupid enough to keep this going ..........AND THEY DID it was on Riki lake, Jerry Springer, what else, Oprah i think THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT. Now so this post doesn't go on too long... SORRY I have 2 theories that i believe deserve serious consideration POINT 1 - Most things in history that are myth have something behind them SANTA CLAUS - there is a real person behind that who used to hand out gifts (Except it was both to Adults and children) VAMPIRES - Are actually real , it goes back to Romania (Then.. Transylvania) back to the ottoman empire with count Vlad Dracul , he started an order called THE ORDER OF THE DRAGON (Look it up) , Now his son was a sick S.O.B. Vlad Tepes aka Vlad the Impaler. Used to Impale people and while he sat at his dinner table (outdoors) he would extend a goblet and fill it with their dripping blood and drink it. he also wasn't fond of garlic in his food. he believed that by drinking the blood of his enemies constantly he would have eternal life see where all this goes ? Anything sounding familiar :P Anway 2 things make perfect sense to me WHEN WE DIE 1. We breakdown into the earth into our molecules and atoms . Who's to say that the afterlife is NOT us existing as molecules on a sub atomic level This would explain a lot. it would also mean that god is here on earth it would explain when jesus was crucified, they said he want to be with god (that would then be true) it wouldn't explain Ascending to heaven, but it would explain where we go when we die. it would also explain "all things come from god" RIGHT...A LL THINGS COMES FROM ATOMS AND MOLECULES so.. you can think really small and the world that exists there when you die. which also explains why a lot of people don't find it. or you can think big. that Heaven is on another planet that is too far away for us. and we get transported there when we die. Not in some mystical way, but in some real way where our molecules get transported there. WHY NOT ? IN A CLOSED SYSTEM MATTER CAN ONLY BE REASSIGNED and not created or destroyed, this would respect physics Mind you these are just ideas BUT THEY ALSO WOULD EXPLAIN AND PROVE THESE 2 THINGS 1. Religion is full of crap as religion does not cover any of this 2. The bible is not god's word as none of this covered Now we already know the bible isn't god's word, that's not rocket science and it should obvious that Religion and Politics are intertwined BUT WHOS' TO SAY GOD DOESN'T EXIST ? Maybe he does BUT... THE BIBLE IS DEFINITELY NOT HIS WORD and RELIGION IS DEFINITELY NOT TELLING HIS STORY OR PREACHING HIS WORD I reckon we just need to focus on being good people , and if there is a god he will work it out and let us know about him if and when the time comes I don't think we need to be worried or panic i mean HE CREATED THE UNIVERSE i reckon it's safe to say hes' got shit under control PEOPLE JUST BLOODY WORRY TOO MUCH AND MAKE UP TOO MUCH CRAP that's what i think
it does mention cains wife... how can yall deny it? Awan, is literally his sister, they had to do incest before the law of moses came, cause there were only Adam, Eve and their children.
A pertinent question though - but kudos to Cliffe, he did not make some crap up - which is exactly what the bible, actually does. He just has a go at the questioner, calling him arrogant, when it was just a question.....sigh...
@@velkyn1 The Bible is the most accurate and eloquent book in the world; and it literally describes every single conflict man can have in this world-and what the right thing to do is. The Bible is literally the universe in a book. There are so many secret codes in the Bible that it would be easier for us to live on mars than to try and solve them all. Only way anyone can sort them out is by asking God face-to-face.
@@velkyn1What did the Greek Philosopher Plato eat for breakfast? What did the Egyptian Pharaoh do for his marriage anniversary? What did King Nebuchadnezzar feed his pet? Oh you don’t know? According to your own statement, this means that you are ignorant and stupid.
With this appearing as a younger Cliff, he actualky does find an answer to that with the remaining Sons and Daughters of Adam and Eve that came before Cain and Abel. Meaning Cain more likely than not got his wife as one of his Neices or Cousins. [Before anyone says Alabama, it is scientifically accurate that such mutations of inbreeding were not that common until roughly the 18th cebtiry. While generations upon generations of forced inbreeding certainly did have an eventual effect, our DNA was a lot stronger and mutation free for a vast majority of Homosapian existance. Meaning one generation or so when Humans were still in thr few 100 digits would not harm the genetical code as bad as it does now that it is in the billions.]
@@nightdrivenen7909 Or Yahweh had actually created other people. When Cain was cursed he said "anyone who finds me will kill me". Who is he speaking of?
That's because he was proven wrong as well as put in a position that he had to answer a question he had no answer for and yet he proposes the bible as the end all be all of book of answers for humans to follow.
@@guinnesssyfy7141litterally this he engages in ad homs which really isn't great look especially for him Then proceeds to say the kid should be educated better and yet that kid is the one questioning the bible like he should be
Cliff was 100% right though. Cliff is a human being and that little twit was being arrogant. Just the way he asked the question was so condescending. Atheists always feel like they have a free pass to be vicious towards Christians and then whenever a Christian even slightly retaliates with an attitude the athiest feel like they've won the argument.
@@guinnesssyfy7141 Cliffe was asked “Where did Cain get his wife?” He replied “The Bible doesn’t say, what difference would that make?” The kid replied “Well since The Bible doesn’t explain where Cain got his wife from, The Bible is incorrect.” Cliffe explained that such a conclusion is irrational because no book in the world contains every detail of a topic, and The Bible not containing where Cain got his wife from cannot disprove The Bible because it’s just absence of irrelevant information, it really doesn’t affect anything. How did this kid prove Cliffe wrong??? I genuinely thought the kid made a ridiculous conclusion, even outside of a religious viewpoint.
@@guinnesssyfy7141 Also while I’m still here, are you sure you didn’t just assert the last part about Cliffe proposing The Bible as the answer to all questions? I’ve watched a lot of his talks and not once have I ever encountered something like him doing such. I don’t expect you to just remember one off the top of your head but can you please name the title of any video featuring him doing such? Outside of being metaphorical, The Bible isn’t literally the answer to all questions and none of us Christians should be claiming it is.
Absolutely. Unbelievers would always dispute the gospel because the carnal mind cannot understand or inherit spiritual things. (1 Corinth 15:50- Brothers, I tell you this: Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, and corruption cannot inherit incorruption.) Sometimes people blaspheme from place of ignorant or intentional, to infuriate you out of character,. Our Lord Jesus Christ understood these, hence He warned disciples against the schemes/yeast of the Pharisee ( Matt 16:6). Always respond in love and calm, it is our duty as believers and laborers in the vineyard of God to keep teaching, preaching and enlightening the world on the gospel of Christ- The Bread of Life.
The kid was calm and the nutty Cliffe guy was bouncing around ranting and raving and pointing his fingers. The kid is right while the nut job is pretentiously and obnoxiously wrong.
Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible, they called them dragons. The word Dinosaur wasn't made till the late 1800s. That's why we have so many dragon legends
Dinosaurs and humans never existed together.. Dinosaurs have not been on earth in over 64 million years, humans have been on the earth not even one million years ago..
This inerrancy cult has to go. The bible was written by men, it's full of falsehoods and conteadicri, especially the Old Testament, which doesn't even belong to any follower of Christ anyway
@@LaughterLarry Don't wait for a reply because @nitagud51 knows she put her foot in her mouth. czcams.com/video/c1j7A-SBWWY/video.htmlsi=xoEKK3KLEPKLXa26 (Christian ignorance of history and Rome created Christianity) czcams.com/video/dvaJC3_ZMTw/video.htmlsi=KtgIfcgaCrb3YFvQ Christians reject the true history of Christianity) czcams.com/video/ExeRvXFZmz0/video.htmlsi=g0bT4w2stxnoC8F (The pulpit was used to brainwash blacks into mental slaves)
A atheist has no argument in matters of the bible. He had no argument and he resorted to stirring it up until he got told off! The bible is 100% God's Inspired word.
It’s so funny to me when people say the Bible doesn’t mention dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are just animals that are extinct. They’re just animals. The Bible says there were animals on the planet before humans. Beasts, creatures, fowl, crawling, flying etc. These people think dinosaurs are like magical creatures. Sorry to disappoint…they were just animals like you see now. It would be no different than watching an elephant, giraffe, lion vulture or whatever.
Good point - extinction legends seem to impart a mystical air to them in our imaginations. The coelacanth even retains that mystique despite still being alive since it was thought to be extinct and then thought to be the last of an extinct group - but they are just fish and they aren’t magic.
Let's say there were animals for hundreds of millions of years before the first humans. Did they experience pain and harm and death? It seems so. This was long before a couple of idiots ate some fruit. Seems like God is not omni benevolent to animals. Secondly, why does God feel the need to punish the animals because a couple of idiots ate some fruit anyway? They did nothing wrong. Here is an idea. Create the animals in heaven where they never need to eat or drink or get harmed or die and are happy all the time? Isn't that what an omni benevolent God would do for animals? It seems like God is indifferent to animals. It's almost as if there is no God at all.
@@gabrielteo3636 You know, your solution sounds a lot like heaven. The place God says we can experience after this one. You can’t appreciate something good without experiencing something else first. Also, God could have designed humans and animals the way you say he should have. But if he did that, you wouldn’t have the free will to even come up with the idea in the first place. Those are called robots. Robots do exactly what they’re programmed to do. God could have programmed us all to always have high endorphin, serotonin and dopamine levels so we are always happy. I don’t want to live here forever. This is a temporary experience that I don’t want forever. I am grateful for this temporary experience. You say it sounds like there is no God. If there were no God, you would have no idea of what “happy” or “benevolent” even is. Are your ideas of the way God “should have” made this place subjective or objective. If they are objective, where does this objective right or wrong come from if there is no creator? And if it is subjective, what makes your way the better way? It would just be based on what YOU want and not what others want. And I don’t mean this to be an attack. I genuinely enjoy the conversation.
Cain married one of his sisters (later). "Dinosaurs" is a term invented in the 1800s. The Bible mentions creatures that were what we would call "dinosaur", for example, leviathan, etc.
Or a cousin, or an aunt, or some other relative. We don't see laws against familial marriage until Leviticus. This would have been enough time for the gene pool to have degenerated enough to be a problem for close-family "relations". The Bible doesn't specifically name a LOT of animals. That doesn't mean they never existed in Biblical times. Dinosaurs are animals, and we are told in Genesis that God created animals. (Saying all this in supplement to your comment. :) )
First Earth age - there were 'behemoths' - the earth is older than 6K-yrs. Cain got his wife from the 6th day creation (kings & queens of the ethnos). God didn't create man twice; He created THE man Adam (who showed blood in the face/could blush) on the 8th day because He needed a tiller of the field. There were definitely other people already around, or Cain wouldn't have been scared to go out, "But they'll kill me when they see me!" And so God put a mark on Cain. If the earth was empty, except for Adam/Eve/Cain/Abel, there would've been nobody for Cain to be frightened of.
Because Biologists don’t claim to be ‘all powerful’ or magic, they simply look to make new discoveries, the Bible claims to be the word of God, so if it is, then why doesn’t it have everything in there? God is apparently all knowing.
@@duncanbryson1167 it's the only answer bro... today, marrying your sister is wrong because human genes are polluted with time making it produce imperfect baby. But their genes were clean, so could produce a healthy child.
John 3:16-17 “For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son so who so ever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world but to save the world through him.” God bless everybody that is reading this prayers for you all and your family in Jesus Christ name amen 🙏
@@SnouthunterJust like it's not to late to delete this comment it's also not to late to repent and accept Christ Jesus into your life. If you continue to reject him he will reject you when he returns. "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: and knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS. (Matthew 1:21-25)KJV
Cain didn’t marry his sister and Adam was not the first human to be on earth (he was the first made knowing of god) in Genesis 1:26 it talks of the creation of mankind BEFORE Adam and Eve were created
I'm a bit disappointed with Cliffs reaction here, Scripture gives us the direction "But sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have, but doing so with a mild temper and deep respect" - 1st Peter 3:15 Also, the Bible does answer the guys question, Genesis 5:4 "Adam....became father to sons and daughters" Cain took one of his Sisters as a wife. No need to immediately condemn the question as unanswerable and without merit, especially when it is clearly explained in scripture.
@@goranmilic442 If you read the description you'd see its a description of a dinosaur that God created and he took his sword to. Note verse 19. Job 40:15-24 “Look at Behemoth, which I made along with you and which feeds on grass like an ox. 16 What strength it has in its loins, what power in the muscles of its belly! 17 Its tail sways like a cedar; the sinews of its thighs are close-knit. 18 Its bones are tubes of bronze, its limbs like rods of iron. 19 It ranks first among the works of God, yet its Maker can approach it with his sword. 20 The hills bring it their produce, and all the wild animals play nearby. 21 Under the lotus plants it lies, hidden among the reeds in the marsh. 22 The lotuses conceal it in their shadow; the poplars by the stream surround it. 23 A raging river does not alarm it; it is secure, though the Jordan should surge against its mouth. 24 Can anyone capture it by the eyes, or trap it and pierce its nose? You should also look into the fact that the dinosaur bones still have material inside of them that decays at a maximum of 100,000 years. Or how they dated brand new lava from a volcano that was decades old but looked 2 million years old according to their tests. Same with synthetic diamonds. Heaven is real, and so is hell. Read the Bible.
You mean the dragon? The one that men fought and couldn't pierce its scales? The one with smoke coming from its nose? 🤣🤣🤣 You think dinosaurs and man walked the earth together? Lmfao
He's mad because the answer goes against his beliefs. Cains wife came from the "Be fruitful and multiply" command from God. The ages were not given when these events happened.
@@antichrist_revealed He isn't mad because it goes against his beliefs, but he is mad because the person Cliffe is talking to was being illogical and dishonest to support their belief system and making false claims about how missing a detail in a story causes it to be false.
I was asked this question decades ago. My thought and answer was God said He created man and then took the rib from man and created women and they were the first...not the only. I've commented this before...people who don't want to believe because they can't stand the thought of being held accountable for their sins against Jesus, the man and only Son of God who died to pay for our sin debt.
I think this too that Yahweh created mankind without giving them specific direction as to what they could and could not eat but only gave these stipulations to Adam and Eve. It is obvious that Cain was saying there were other people when he told Yah that because of the mark Yah gave him that "anyone who finds me will kill me".
@@pmgrogersanderson9426No it doesnt it says God created Male and Female in Genesis 1:27 not males and females just one singular, Cain is a Son from Adam and Eve
The odd thing is is that the guy that's doesn't believe the Bible ACTUALLY called it a history book! Most non believers call it a book of fairy tales and don't consider it history but yes the Bible is actually a history book. I'm impressed!
The bible is a bit of both. There's some bad history in it, that's supplemented with fairytale nonsense. The guy commenting above me is correct imo, it should be considered a historical document of ancient philosophy.
@@user-mw7dp8ir5r good for him. too bad he condemns me to eternal hellfire for not believing in him and blaspheming against him. who knew love could be so malicious.
better answer instead of raging as a christian: "The bible's focus is not on cain, so why would they mention it? Same with giraffes and dinosaurs. the focus is on god, not the human"
Maybe. Jews believe that Gentiles weren't made on the image of God. However, they existed. It is possible-- because Cain was sent away that he married a Gentile in another land.
Well to answer the first question here is the explanation There are many other books of the scriptures that are not in the Bible. If you were to read in one of them it talks about Adam and Eve having daughters so what I can give you is logical explanation that Cain could have married his sister/sisters.
@@-Uknownhuman-Aside from the fact that there is no evidence that would suggest that Adam and Eve ever existed, which renders the explanation void.. You can't explain a mystery by appealing to another mystery..
Cain married one of his sisters, for Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters. The prohibition to not marry a close relative did not come into effect until the time of moses, which was after the flood.
The Bible doesn't say that Adam and Eve were the only ones God created. It says they were the first He created. If you're going to call someone or something the first you made, there must be a second. The Old Testament is basically a family tree of incredible people leading to Jesus. It proves that He was descended from the very first person God put on earth.
This is the same argument I have for people who get mad at my religion’s view of eternal progression and ask: “If you believe God was once a man, who created Him? And who created that God? Etc.” How would that answer affect you and your salvation? Further, why would God need to tell you about that for you to accept His word, and all the wonders and good he’s already shown and given you?
I'm confused by what you said here 🤣🤔 Are you asking if God is eternal? By definition that implies there is no begining or end. Time isn't applicable to something like that. It would be beyond time. Once it stepped into time then it would have a begining within the framework of the time it stepped into. And its end would be the time in which it stepped out of that time. But just because it stepped in or stepped out wouldn't constitute a begining or end for the entity that was eternal. It would just constitute the moment you could point to it existing within the time it stepped into.
@@alexbartine6346 That isn’t how either infinities (including time) work my friend. We as humans and as scientists know next to nothing about them, but that we do know.
Exactly what I thought ! The pastor man became defensive really quickly and wound himself up like a child, having a tantrum, when all he had to do was just be honest and say that he didn’t know !
Exactly he totally avoided the question and it’s even worse because the Bible actually has the answer to the question the kid asked. He just doesn’t know the answer 😂😂😂
@@calebwillillhight hahaha, makes me wonder what pastor man’s message is and his intentions ? Actually, if I was exploring Christianity, his little Timmy Tantrum and total disrespect for the kid, who, i thought had a valid question and was worth exploring, would have put me off that path !
The pastor did answer his question later in the video in which the video cut off, he answers by saying that Cains Wife is one of his sisters, but he was more worried about how the student was willing to discredit all of the Bible over where Cain got his wife from? It’s very arrogant on the students part and it offends everyone who has ever studied the Bible
Honestly, I’m a believer, but this Pastor lost his cool and resorted to hurling insults… at a kid 🤦🏻♀️ like, bro that’s pathetic. He’s lucky the kid _was_ asking decently in a composed manner, unlike the Pastor. Now he’s cemented this kids preconceived notions about religion even more because of this junk way the Pastor responded 👎🏻 Learn how to respond in the way Jesus would have or sit down, Sir
You’re exactly right cliff I’m so glad that you tell it like it is and you don’t sugarcoat anything these college students for real stupid hardly it’s because I have a liberal teachers that tell them there is no God and not to believe in God keep up the good work leave hopefully some of these people will get saved
@@hampter4531 nahh.... i need god. The supreme one, the Most powerfull one, the Most wise, the Most forgiving one, the one who doesnt get born nor is he created, the creator of all things!! Jesus pbuh whas born and weak and mortal and i can go on and on why he CANT be god. Im mindblowing how ppl perceive jesus pbuh as the one who i described starting this comment🤔
The college kid had a great question, and the answer was to disparage other texts. History is rife with texts throughout the millennia, there are thousands of biology texts that have been written. I stand with the kid. Back up your Bible with something instead of tearing down other disciplines. False equivalencies do not make your argument true Cliffe.
Logically, if you’re going literal, Caine wife was his sister. Furthermore; he went to the land of Nod where he procreated Enoch and built his first city in his namesake. This is a nail in the coffin of biblical literalism.
Cliffe is correct, where the Bible is silent doesn't make it false. Since the Bible says Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters, you can conclude Cain married his sister.
People have said this but why then when Yahweh marked Cain did he say that "anyone who finds me will kill me"? Who is he speaking of if he is not just simply speaking of Adam and Eve?
@@blossominginchrist That is true but the Scripture tells us that Cain was cast out from the presence of the Lord and went to dwell in Nod, not that he circled back 15-20 years later and married his sister.
This college student is so ingorent and also uninformed. He said the Bible is a book of history and by this he is implying that the Bible is historically accurate.
Being sped up makes it sound worse. He answers his question later but was more concerned he said the Bible wasn't true if it didn't answer that one question.
A lukewarm Christian this question is from the enemy neither you or anyone truly cares who Cain married. This question has one purpose to try n prove the Bible is false. 100s of prophecies fulfilled actual events of Jesus performing miracles then sacrificing his body without sin so we all can have eternal life not condemned. You want to be in the path of God's wrath with this nonsense repent quickly seriously
Yes it was an emotional response to a disingenuous question,but the logic is sound. The absence of details in a book does not (alone) refute the information provided. Otherwise every piece of literature ever written would be deemed invalid.
@@melvinmolly4151 First of all the book of genesis is frequently arranged in a non-chronological order. So, after it describes the murder of Abel, it flashes back to before Abel was murdered and talks about Adam and Eve having many sons and daughters. Therefore, Cain married one of his many sisters
Cliff wasn’t mad at the question. He was angry at the logic the young man was using to conclude that the Bible is false. His response is attacking the young man’s thinking and deductive reasoning. He’s essentially trying to help the young man see how foolish it would be to call any book (not just the Bible) false just because it doesn’t provide every detail or answer all of our questions. My dad used to fuss at me when I did dumb things as a child. My mom used to talk to me about the dumb things I did. I appreciate them both, though they handled me in two totally different ways. Don’t miss messages in life for the sake of how they’re delivered.
@pcdeltalink036 Cliffe over reacted to this question. It's not that Cliffe didn't answer the question, it's the fact that Cliffe resorted to name calling and insulting the guy that asked him the question. Why was Cliffe so angry?
@@susangraham1203 It's obvious why Cliffe was so angry. It wasn't that the guy asked a question. It's that the guy was ready to dismiss the entire Bible as false simply because it didn't have one tiny insignificant detail in it. That is a HUGE logical misstep and I can understand someone becoming very aggravated over it. It would be like me saying a history book on George Washington was false if they didn't tell me what color shirt he wore on that Tuesday or something equally as absurd.
@pcdeltalink036 As a Christian, Cliffe should not have reacted the way he did. It doesn't matter what the young man's motive was or wasn't. Cliffe did not respond with love. I have seen him in other videos. He seems to get frustrated quite often when people ask him questions. Sometimes, he is respectful. Quite often, he is not. I have also seen him on other media, and he is not always pleasant and gets quite flustered at times.
The kid is making a point about young earth creationism. If God made just Adam and Eve, and all humanity are descended from them, then where did Cain's wife come from? I think what the kid was getting at was a valid question that Cliff couldn't answer
The divine books teach and guide humans in two fundamental aspects: how to worship God and how to live while worshiping God. Anything that does not encompass these two points does not need to be mentioned by God, and God knows best. The stories mentioned in the divine books are not bedtime stories; rather, they are stories filled with lessons and wisdom that must be studied and reflected upon. Any detail in the story that does not contain wisdom or benefit for the reader does not need to be mentioned as well.
Cause its true. It's just a book. The same way he says there is no book that describes all history ,the bible applies to his own statement. Religious people, understand you cant claim something to be 100 percent fact if cant answer it with 100% fact. The fact that he says "what difference does it make if I cant answer that question " it makes all the difference. It means you just talking to get someone to believe you. There is no facts. Just emotions and beliefs. The lack of evidence. That why he got so mad. He tried to insult this young man's intelligence but ended exposing his own lack of critical thinking. When faced with critical thought this is typical the response. Imma chill cause I actually like this old dude. This is just embarrassing.
@@ptomelusseptim8806He didn't insult the kid. He spoke the truth. If you think the Word of GOD is just a book then by all means say that to GOD and watch how GOD answers you. The one thing that GOD has done is to limit the knowledge and information of man. Man is not smarter than GOD.
Cliff losing it is kind of embarrassing. I understand the kid attacked his religion and faith, but Cliff is the adult and could've answered calmly while still drilling into the kid.
He certainly lost his cool. However, referring to the young man as a “kid”-he’s a young adult. Cliff is addressing him as such. Especially at a Uni, where critical thinking and rationality should be exemplified.
@@imamoocow4Dude, there's 12 year olds or around that age with that kinda facial hair, he doesn't have to be 22 in order to have that kinda facial hair.
It wasn't even an attack. The kid asked a question. Us Jews legit will sit down with you and discuss parts of the Torah if you ask, even if you ask rudely.
@@isaacjuarez569funnily enough, majority of teachers, even at uni, will tell you TO ASK QUESTIONS. that's the thing people like you don't understand. Critical thinking isn't just being able to understand every single thing, but being able to look at something, and ask a question.
was it? asking about a guys wife which has no impact or relevance on why he needs to repent and follow Christ nor does it have anything to do with his current mountain of sin.
@@onlymyself7225 a lack of inconsistencies in the Bible is one of the things that make it stand out. It has no impact on what Christ says but it speaks to the books reliability.
The history book on George Washington didn't tell me what he ate everyday or when he first lost his virginity or even how many times he shit so that means George Washington didn't exist or it's unreliable to trust the history books at all? That's the equivalent of what that guy said to cliffe
I’m an atheist. But asking where Cain got his wife is a stupid question. There’s only one place he could have gotten his wife, it’s obvious within the narrative. Dude married his sister. There’s literally zero other option given the narrative.
He just doesn't have an answer, because the whole story is BS. He is just angry about the fact he happens to be in the position to find an explanation for that nonsense.
@@stephengibbons3049 He was not righteous anger. Imagine asking questions at an university uuuh the audacity. The place we are supposed to learn without having doubts. Is that even possible? Not everything is in the bible, WWII was not in the Bible and still was profetise at the apperations of Mary in Fatima (Portugal) in 1917
“The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters.” Genesis 5:4 It’s clear that Cain married his sister but back with Adam they needed to populate the earth so it wasnt like it is today with incest. You didn’t had deformities. They had to multiply.
@@khrystalkhoury62 Yes, it does. "And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and *daughters* - Genesis 5:4 He obviously married one of his sisters. There was no prohibition against that in those first years.
Also people don't seem to get that God manifested and blessed each offspring with different blood lines different blood types for each and every new human at that point so each would have been brother and sister by birth yet not blood type along with God created many other men and women after Adam and Eve further on each of the Twelve tribes had an array of different bloodline and types.
But the Bible does give the DETAILS about How Cain got his wife. Adam and Eve Had SONS AND DAUGHTERS and lived 930 years. Cain and Abel were TWINS; By the time they Grew up: they had brothers and sisters. Cain married one of his sisters.
Dude got triggered because he knew that he could not answer the question. Getting mad & yelling didn't help him one bit. It just made him look crazy & unhinged.
@@dayotll God only made 1 woman in the first three thousand years. You can't just change the word of God. He made men get pregnant together, end of story.
The Christian church is apostate and against the 10 commandments. They teach the opposite of what the Messiah did, preaching faith alone, OSAS, pretrib rapture nonsense, and they're promoting pagan idolatry like Christmas and Easter. Google the origins of these holidays, it's all ancient Roman and Babylonian god worship that the Lord hates, found nowhere in the Bible. If you want to be saved then you need to actually start obeying the instruction of God, which means not being a partaker of this stuff and keeping the 10 commandments. The church follows the Roman Empire's 321 AD Sunday law instead of the actual Saturday Sabbath commandment, which is the same problem Christ had with the Pharisees Mark 7:6-7 King James Version 6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. We're supposed to follow the Messiah in truth. Flee from the lies of the church and repent. We can't break the Sabbath, eat abominations like pork and shellfish, or be a partaker of worldly idolatry like praying to wood statues or crosses or christmas and easter. Yeshua, the Messiah, taught you how to be great in the kingdom: Matthew 5:19 King James Version 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Loving your neighbor means to rebuke sinners so they repent: Leviticus 19:17-18 King James Version 17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. 18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord. But the hippie Jesus church prefers tolerance which is why they're going to be destroyed.b
One of the worst cliff moments here. He should have just said we aren't told, but since the bible says that we're all related to one man adam and inter family marriages werent banned until much later, it's probably safe to assume that Cain married his sister.
My high school history books were wrong too because they didn't tell me where Lincoln went to the bathroom at
A more apportiate analogy would be if your teachers told you lincoln was the first president and then proceeded to tell you about the presidents before Lincoln
Well the science books did say Pangea was caused by a random shift in tectonic plates BEFORE humans yet the Bible told us thousands of years ago that “the continental drift” race and language are all a punishment for creating the Tower of Babel, long before scientists discovered Pangea this was in the Bible yet they add lies to discredit god
Big part of the reason I’m not convinced dinosaurs existed, they still could’ve that doesn’t disprove god, but I’m not convinced these fossils aren’t A completely fake or B made up from different animals and were just told a fake story.
If the Bible is made up by the people in power for control and it’s all lies, aren’t the same people in control also in charge of the science and history books? But that’s not a lie even though it’s the same people?
Are u really too smart for god or are u denying him for another reason?(talking rhetorically to an atheist not to u lol)
@@zacshiflerwhy would his wife need to be there before him? And he wasn’t the first person.
LOL you think those are equivalent? SMH
Or how many Vampires Lincoln killed.
Haven’t seen cliff so impatient before. He’s normally so calm
I'm sure he gets fed up with these nimrods....
@SimonSaid78 Dude asked a reasonable question, and was attacked with name-calling and word games instead of a humble answer.
This Cliff guy just showed himself to be a con man.
Maybe I'm imagining it, but it seems like the video has been sped up at some points to make Cliff seem angry. I've watched him enough times that this doesn't seem like his usual speech patterns when he's being assertive.
I think it’s also sped up a little for this particular video
You do realize this is all scripted stuff right?
Knowing where Cain’s wife came from won’t matter when you are face to face with your Maker, who also happens to be your Judge
Proof ? Did you take it out your A$$ perhaps and if so how far did you have to dig to reach it ?
dwelt in the land of Nod and that's where Cain got his wife. There were people created before Adam. Read and study. I do, and you can too. Charles A Jennings has a sermon on this subject, go look it up, he clears the hurdle.
ABSOLUTELY!
The kid misspoke and literally said “the Bible is a book of history-“ bro just casually confirmed it’s historically accurate.
Ikr!!! Besides. History books doesn't tell me who sneezed at 3:48 PM on a Saturday In Washington, USA, in the year of 1934 August 7
Yeah the world definitely flooded and the whole population came from two people 🤡
@@Popeyedfreeze It does not say everyone died but two people. Your statement is incorrect go do some more research before you try that.
@@Popeyedfreeze Wow HEHE You're so quarky and cool because you dont believe in god haha.
well that stupid with that same logic the bello gallico is also historically accurate which it isnt
The Bible doesn't mention giraffes either. That does not make it less true of a book.
The problem is the bible come from god🎅 so he must know threre dinosaur🐊, why the bible not explain "in the past there giant lizard roaming the earth for long time" that can be proof bible the word of god🎅.
Nah just all the other bits it gets entirely wrong.
@@struandickson9082name a few
No, the Bible says that all the creations of god were put in an ark. Where they conveniently leave out every single dinosaur that has ever existed? No mention of one?
The Bible even says the earth is the center of the universe. The existence of aliens debunks the Bible.
Cain's wife was likely his sister. At that time, incest did not exist as a moral or social issue. It wasn't considered a problem to start a family with a close relative until much later, around the time of Noah. This explanation makes sense to me.
People often focus on minor details, but the Bible's purpose is not to explain everything in detail; rather, it is to guide people toward redemption. 🙏🏻❤
The Bible keeps a detailed genealogy of the major characters of the text. Coincidentally Cain gets a wife out of thin air basically.
Exactly 💯
If you read the book of Adam and Eve it says Cain and Abel both had twin sisters and they were to marry their twin. Abels sister was very beautiful and Cains looked like shriek so one of the main reasons Cain kill Abel was to marry Abels twin sister.
@@airman9820 1. Those aren't canonical.
2. Are you insinuating that God allowed them to do something wicked and sinful.
@@Fruitsnackgobbler I'm just telling you what the book of Adam and eve says.
Why does the bible need to tell us whether the dinosaurs existed or not, it doesn't mention polar bears or humming birds but we know those exist
lol, it does mention giants which most people don't believe to be true. The kid has a point.
@@gsmscrazycanuck9814
The kid was a mocker, not a learner...
And in a university campus. 🙄
@@_BillyMandalay he brings up a good point. Why does the Bible have to say where the wife came from? Because it’s pivotal to the story. Not naming every specific animal is not.
The term dinosaur was established back in the early 1800’s, they were known as Thunder Lizards, but way before then most likely they were known as Dragons. You have a lot of depictions around the world of Dinosaurs living amongst men from ancient artifacts. Behemoth was indeed one of God’s greatest creations besides Leviathan. Behemoth has the very description of what we know as the Brontosaurus and the description is very fitting other than what we see labeled as an elephant or a hippo . Behemoth description is a creature that eats from the field of grass, has bone like iron, and has tail that sways like a cedar tree, as you see here which animal fits the description: 🦕🐘🦛
Leviathan was known to have smoke emanate from his nostrils, and sparks would come from its mouth which indicates that it could breathe fire, well we have venomous snakes, poisonous spiders, and fish that can produce electricity such as Electric Rays, or Electric Eels. Either leviathan is well deceased, or dwells deep within the ocean, and only 5% of the ocean has been discovered. So why spend billions of dollars to fly rockets and satellites into space, when billions can be spent to discover the rest of 95% of our own ocean? If we read the book of Genesis, the book of Enoch, and even the book of Revelations, we learn that there were giants on the earth, but they were hybrids created by the fallen Angels that impregnated woman with fair skin and long hair (this is why some countries have adopted and followed the traditional head coverings for females in my opinion), as much evil there was on earth during those times the great flood wasn’t only due to the amount of sin, but it was to destroy the descendants of the fallen Angels, and of course the angels that were disobedient, were locked in chains in "The Abyss".
@@gsmscrazycanuck9814 theres been plenty of giant skeletal remains found.
Yeah my Math Textbook is wrong because it didnt tell me how addition was invented
How long did it take human life to show up on earth?
Not at all even close to the question proposed in the video.
Where did all the people come from , a bunch of inbreeding? Of not then what?
@@SheesherscreepersI mean kinda 😅
Because you don’t need to know how addition was invented. What good is it gonna make you better learning math.
The word dinosaur was coined until the 1800s how ever leviathan is mentioned in the Bible
Leviathan and behemoth are two different creatures from dinosaurs
The bible mentioned the BIG ones, Behemoth & Leviathan. Does that mean those are the only two dinosaurs that lived?
@@DL.Traveler.2016 "On his farm he had the simple ones, sheep and pig" guess it means he only had 2 animals
Genesis 6. All flesh was corrupted.
@@tonypatino1765 great response. Semantics is such a simple place to create an arguement and just as simply can it be shut down if people used common sense
Cliff is literally fed up with so many people asking the same questions forever he needa take a break
This is clearly an older clip brought back to short videos. But I can see why an insincere question would spark frustration in anyone...he just openly called him out...
Holy Bible he, only, left, you,... biblical information before leaving earth
The clip has been sped up so that it fits within the short when Cliff is speaking it is sped up
Kliff I know shit about god
He's upset because people are genuinely calling him out for his bullshit.
I love the preacher, blessing and miracle all around him
The Bible doesn’t mention Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. It doesn’t even mention me.
**snaps out of existence**
You’ll think the Bible is just a book but realize that Jesus fulfilled scripture to the letter and he also said he’s coming back. Believe it, he’s coming.
People can act to fulfill "prophecy" or others can claim that it did based on vague predictions. I'm not a mythicist but I'm skeptical about a physical Jesus Christ having existed.
actually, he doesn't fit the prophecies to a tea. He misses some criteria
To the letter?? Than your all knowing doctrine (Bible) should be able to account for the dinosaurs. C’mon
@@user-yh7jp4ey2b Really hung up on those dinosaurs huh? Be a shame to be in front of the living GOD and explain that was your biggest concern was dinosaurs so you didn’t dig any further to understand truth.
@@sammiller9446 You're saying Jesus fulfilled scripture but the only place that scripture is confirmed is in scripture... It's a book G nothing more
And this is why “ without faith it’s impossible to please God “
Or understand Him. He reveals mysteries to them who seek Him with a worthy heart
susanne are you taking drugs?
Just wondering based on your comment.
Amén 🙏🏻 ❤
James 2 Faith without works is dead. Have to have works to go with it. We're called to give aid to those in need and to care for the widows. That's our works. Have to have both to please God right??
You need to have faith within those works for it to mean something. Works by itself are meaningless. It is through faith that good works are produced.
The Bible can’t tell me how to cook ravioli either
No! The Bible is NOT just a book!!! The Bible has power!
It does have Power
THE POWER TO DECEIVE
The bible is not JUST a book,
i agree with you.
it's been very influential
But
IT IS NOT GOD'S WORD
The bible is a collection of stories from other cultures and religions from all over the world. It all dates back to the Ancient Sumerian's of the Mesopotamia. Simple research would corroborate the ancient texts from The Emerald Tablets, Dead Sea Scrolls, Mahabharata, Epic of Gilgamesh, etc..
That's why the Book of Enoch was removed. You know because it talks about Enoch flying around in a craft with "a like human species" to the edge of the atmosphere to be shown the Earth is a globe, etc..
The bible IS JUST A BOOK of morals.
Basic
Instructions
Before
Leaving
Earth
B.I.B.L.E
When I say leaving earth, I mean death.
@@MSFTS_DECAY
thank god you told us that because we would never have figured out that it meant death without that .
CLOSE ONE HUH ? :P
but here's a plot twist.
what if LEAVING EARTH Actually means
LEAVING EARTH TO GO TO ANOTHER PLANET.
what if, All god is is an alien on another planet and on that planet he monitors this planet and the point is to see which planet you are worthy of being on
so... heaven is a planet
Hell is another planet
it would absolutely make sense if that's all it was
@@martinkuliza lol that’s what you chose to be picky about? Most religious people consider “leaving earth” as going to “heaven”. When you edited your comment you should have just erased the whole first sentence. I believe you’re on to something when it comes to the alien theory.
@@MSFTS_DECAY
LOL........ so we get off on the right foot, ok
1. "lol that’s what you chose to be picky about? "
NO I WASN'T BEING PICKY, I was just in a mood where i wanted to joke around a bit. I like Mucking around. so i just decided to take the piss when i saw your comment
You were like
"Leaving earth means .. Dying"
i was like
"LOL... awww i'm gonna have some fun here"
LOL
it's not personal.
2. As for editing.
I don't think i did edit my comment.
maybe to change 1 letter or extra space at the end, but.. i don't think i edited my comment. But.. i'm not 100% sure on that though.
3. Now let's just touch on that Best instructions before leaving earth thingy.
Look, i'm 51. Unfortunately, i'm old enough to remember HOW THAT SAYING STARTED.
And i'm not calling you stupid here, i'm just saying i've seen people take this dead serious.
you see... somewhere in the late 80s i started hearing people say
B.I.B.L.E = Best Instructions Before leaving earth
NOW.. in the 70s you never saw
B.I.B.L.E. it was always
BIBLE or HOLY BIBLE
and we didn't have Atheist's or Theists or whatever. there were 2 types of people in the world and this is how we spoke
"Hi mate, How are you , My name is [Your name]"
INTRODUTIONS...ALWAYS !!! CAME FIRST.
it was respect, followed by (only when relevant) "so.. Do you believe in god or not ?"
there were only 2 answers ever !
Yes
No
We didn't start with
"so.. Are you Christian or Atheist"
we started with our first names.
Now... if was not a believer in god
and you were,
WE SPOKE AS HUMAN BEINGS AND RESPECTED EACH OTHER
Non Believers didn't have Believers and
Believers didn't hate non believers
Now.. when the anagram
B.I.B.L.E was created
IT GENUINELY STARTED AS A JOKE
it sort of tied in with
B.T.O. = Bachman Turner Overdrive
G.F.R. = Grand Funk Railroad
then of course
W.A.S.P. = White Anglo Saxon Protestants
at the time Stryper was a big influence on people and they followed a theme that W.A.S.P. Created, that being...
Throwing pieces of raw meat out into the Audience
so Stryper comes up with this idea.....
1. W.A.S.P. are evil, they have pig heads on a pike, they have pentagrams at concerts and they throw raw pieces of meat into the audience
2. Let's cast away these satanic worshippers LOL (as if Blackie Lawless EVER Worshipped Satan) This is W.A.S.P. Not Mayhem LMFAO
3. i HAVE AN IDEA...
let's throw bibles out in the audience while we sing our Christian Metal such as
To Hell with the Devil and Honestly .
so a little while later, someone comes out with
B.I.B.L.E
BEST INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EARTH
and it is rumoured this ties in with , The Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy.
Anyway, i remember when it started.
IT WAS A JOKE
and everyone took it as such.
BY THE 90S, YOU HAVE PEOPLE TAKING THIS CRAP SERIOUSLY.
Now to those of us that know how it started, this was bloody hilarious
TODAY.. I actually have Jehovah's witnesses that come to my door, Look me dead in the eye with the utmost seriousness and say
"do you know what BIBLE stands for ?"
then they tell me
then they assert,.... See.. this is an instruction manual, it's god's instructions to us before leaving earth
NO IT'S NOT YOU MORON, IT WAS INVENTED IN THE 80S BY MY GENERATION. it was a joke and god had nothing to do with it.
Amazing that people actually think that god had something to do with that
So, i'm in the fortunate position of having had FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE OF HOW THAT STARTED
I assure you, God was not there
LOL
But then again... Slayer (When the PMRC Came out) Created a song called
DISCIPLE - GOD HATES US ALL
that was a piss take, it was never expected to be taken seriously for too long
YET ... TO THIS DAY , Christians will go on about slayer being devil worshippers
THAT'S ALL RUBBISH
it was a test to see if the Baby Boomer christians were stupid enough to keep this going
..........AND THEY DID
it was on Riki lake, Jerry Springer, what else, Oprah i think
THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT.
Now so this post doesn't go on too long... SORRY
I have 2 theories that i believe deserve serious consideration
POINT 1 - Most things in history that are myth have something behind them
SANTA CLAUS - there is a real person behind that who used to hand out gifts (Except it was both to Adults and children)
VAMPIRES - Are actually real , it goes back to Romania (Then.. Transylvania) back to the ottoman empire with
count Vlad Dracul , he started an order called THE ORDER OF THE DRAGON (Look it up) , Now his son was a sick S.O.B.
Vlad Tepes aka Vlad the Impaler.
Used to Impale people and while he sat at his dinner table (outdoors) he would extend a goblet and fill it with their dripping blood and drink it.
he also wasn't fond of garlic in his food.
he believed that by drinking the blood of his enemies constantly he would have eternal life
see where all this goes ?
Anything sounding familiar :P
Anway
2 things make perfect sense to me
WHEN WE DIE
1. We breakdown into the earth into our molecules and atoms .
Who's to say that the afterlife is NOT us existing as molecules on a sub atomic level
This would explain a lot.
it would also mean that god is here on earth
it would explain when jesus was crucified, they said he want to be with god (that would then be true) it wouldn't explain Ascending to heaven, but it would explain where we go when we die.
it would also explain "all things come from god"
RIGHT...A LL THINGS COMES FROM ATOMS AND MOLECULES
so.. you can think really small and the world that exists there when you die.
which also explains why a lot of people don't find it.
or you can think big.
that Heaven is on another planet that is too far away for us.
and we get transported there when we die.
Not in some mystical way, but in some real way where our molecules get transported there.
WHY NOT ?
IN A CLOSED SYSTEM MATTER CAN ONLY BE REASSIGNED and not created or destroyed, this would respect physics
Mind you these are just ideas
BUT THEY ALSO WOULD EXPLAIN AND PROVE THESE 2 THINGS
1. Religion is full of crap as religion does not cover any of this
2. The bible is not god's word as none of this covered
Now we already know the bible isn't god's word, that's not rocket science
and it should obvious that Religion and Politics are intertwined
BUT WHOS' TO SAY GOD DOESN'T EXIST ?
Maybe he does
BUT... THE BIBLE IS DEFINITELY NOT HIS WORD
and
RELIGION IS DEFINITELY NOT TELLING HIS STORY OR PREACHING HIS WORD
I reckon we just need to focus on being good people , and if there is a god he will work it out and let us know about him if and when the time comes
I don't think we need to be worried or panic
i mean HE CREATED THE UNIVERSE
i reckon it's safe to say hes' got shit under control
PEOPLE JUST BLOODY WORRY TOO MUCH AND MAKE UP TOO MUCH CRAP
that's what i think
Just because the Bible doesn’t reference Cain’s wife doesn’t make the Bible false.
Is it God words or inspired words no?
You are actually so unintelligent wow
it does mention cains wife... how can yall deny it? Awan, is literally his sister, they had to do incest before the law of moses came, cause there were only Adam, Eve and their children.
A pertinent question though - but kudos to Cliffe, he did not make some crap up - which is exactly what the bible, actually does. He just has a go at the questioner, calling him arrogant, when it was just a question.....sigh...
@@robred19kinda wild you think the bible makes things up when in reality you can go to certain places where the bible describes providing it true.
It's exciting to me that the Bible doesn't describe every detail! God tells us what he wants us to know.
ah, someone who love to be ignorant and stupid and kept that way by his imaginary friend.
@@velkyn1My friend I hope you come to know Christ and join his orthodox church, while you still have time
@@velkyn1
The Bible is the most accurate and eloquent book in the world; and it literally describes every single conflict man can have in this world-and what the right thing to do is. The Bible is literally the universe in a book. There are so many secret codes in the Bible that it would be easier for us to live on mars than to try and solve them all. Only way anyone can sort them out is by asking God face-to-face.
@@velkyn1What did the Greek Philosopher Plato eat for breakfast? What did the Egyptian Pharaoh do for his marriage anniversary? What did King Nebuchadnezzar feed his pet? Oh you don’t know? According to your own statement, this means that you are ignorant and stupid.
@@velkyn1With respect, can you please come up with another joke other than “imaginary friend?”
i love the passion, love, and the gentle rebuke in his speech for this soul❤❤ GOD BLESS U MAN❤❤
God did not call it a dinosaur; it is we who gave it that name.
Did anyone catch that the kid said “the Bible is just a book…of history”
Edit: thanks for the likes
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Yep...
Given the young man's position, I assume he ment that the Bible is just a book from our history; not that it's an accurate account of our history
With this appearing as a younger Cliff, he actualky does find an answer to that with the remaining Sons and Daughters of Adam and Eve that came before Cain and Abel. Meaning Cain more likely than not got his wife as one of his Neices or Cousins. [Before anyone says Alabama, it is scientifically accurate that such mutations of inbreeding were not that common until roughly the 18th cebtiry. While generations upon generations of forced inbreeding certainly did have an eventual effect, our DNA was a lot stronger and mutation free for a vast majority of Homosapian existance. Meaning one generation or so when Humans were still in thr few 100 digits would not harm the genetical code as bad as it does now that it is in the billions.]
@@nightdrivenen7909Adam and Eve were only two people. Either they had sex with their offspring or their offspring had sex.
@@nightdrivenen7909 Or Yahweh had actually created other people. When Cain was cursed he said "anyone who finds me will kill me". Who is he speaking of?
that's the most passionate and angry I've ever seen cliff be towards anyone
That's because he was proven wrong as well as put in a position that he had to answer a question he had no answer for and yet he proposes the bible as the end all be all of book of answers for humans to follow.
@@guinnesssyfy7141litterally this he engages in ad homs which really isn't great look especially for him
Then proceeds to say the kid should be educated better and yet that kid is the one questioning the bible like he should be
Cliff was 100% right though. Cliff is a human being and that little twit was being arrogant. Just the way he asked the question was so condescending. Atheists always feel like they have a free pass to be vicious towards Christians and then whenever a Christian even slightly retaliates with an attitude the athiest feel like they've won the argument.
@@guinnesssyfy7141 Cliffe was asked
“Where did Cain get his wife?”
He replied “The Bible doesn’t say, what difference would that make?”
The kid replied “Well since The Bible doesn’t explain where Cain got his wife from, The Bible is incorrect.”
Cliffe explained that such a conclusion is irrational because no book in the world contains every detail of a topic, and The Bible not containing where Cain got his wife from cannot disprove The Bible because it’s just absence of irrelevant information, it really doesn’t affect anything.
How did this kid prove Cliffe wrong??? I genuinely thought the kid made a ridiculous conclusion, even outside of a religious viewpoint.
@@guinnesssyfy7141 Also while I’m still here, are you sure you didn’t just assert the last part about Cliffe proposing The Bible as the answer to all questions? I’ve watched a lot of his talks and not once have I ever encountered something like him doing such. I don’t expect you to just remember one off the top of your head but can you please name the title of any video featuring him doing such? Outside of being metaphorical, The Bible isn’t literally the answer to all questions and none of us Christians should be claiming it is.
When you are right you calmly demonstrate your rightness...
Absolutely. Unbelievers would always dispute the gospel because the carnal mind cannot understand or inherit spiritual things.
(1 Corinth 15:50- Brothers, I tell you this: Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, and corruption cannot inherit incorruption.)
Sometimes people blaspheme from place of ignorant or intentional, to infuriate you out of character,. Our Lord Jesus Christ understood these, hence He warned disciples against the schemes/yeast of the Pharisee ( Matt 16:6). Always respond in love and calm, it is our duty as believers and laborers in the vineyard of God to keep teaching, preaching and enlightening the world on the gospel of Christ- The Bread of Life.
The kid was calm and the nutty Cliffe guy was bouncing around ranting and raving and pointing his fingers. The kid is right while the nut job is pretentiously and obnoxiously wrong.
The second time he said “embarrassing” really hit that student where it hurts
Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible, they called them dragons. The word Dinosaur wasn't made till the late 1800s. That's why we have so many dragon legends
Man does not want to admit that the bible and God is real because when he does admit it then he knows he will have to do something about that belief.
verifiably false...
@@change929he’s right, the term dinosaur was invented in the 1800s, before people just said dragons
Dinosaurs and humans never existed together.. Dinosaurs have not been on earth in over 64 million years, humans have been on the earth not even one million years ago..
The Bible is the LIVING WORD
We have a TRUE LIVING CREATOR Amen
Amen ✝️✝️✝️
As alive as the book of harry potter
This inerrancy cult has to go. The bible was written by men, it's full of falsehoods and conteadicri, especially the Old Testament, which doesn't even belong to any follower of Christ anyway
@Shiggs1231 you wanna have a rational conversation? Tell us why you think that.
@@LaughterLarry Don't wait for a reply because @nitagud51 knows she put her foot in her mouth. czcams.com/video/c1j7A-SBWWY/video.htmlsi=xoEKK3KLEPKLXa26 (Christian ignorance of history and Rome created Christianity) czcams.com/video/dvaJC3_ZMTw/video.htmlsi=KtgIfcgaCrb3YFvQ Christians reject the true history of Christianity) czcams.com/video/ExeRvXFZmz0/video.htmlsi=g0bT4w2stxnoC8F (The pulpit was used to brainwash blacks into mental slaves)
It is offensive to Bible believers to question the veracity of the Word of God.
A atheist has no argument in matters of the bible. He had no argument and he resorted to stirring it up until he got told off! The bible is 100% God's Inspired word.
It’s so funny to me when people say the Bible doesn’t mention dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are just animals that are extinct. They’re just animals. The Bible says there were animals on the planet before humans. Beasts, creatures, fowl, crawling, flying etc. These people think dinosaurs are like magical creatures. Sorry to disappoint…they were just animals like you see now. It would be no different than watching an elephant, giraffe, lion vulture or whatever.
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Good point - extinction legends seem to impart a mystical air to them in our imaginations. The coelacanth even retains that mystique despite still being alive since it was thought to be extinct and then thought to be the last of an extinct group - but they are just fish and they aren’t magic.
Wait till he realizes that cats are never mentioned in the Bible, not even once
(lions don't count)
Let's say there were animals for hundreds of millions of years before the first humans. Did they experience pain and harm and death? It seems so. This was long before a couple of idiots ate some fruit. Seems like God is not omni benevolent to animals. Secondly, why does God feel the need to punish the animals because a couple of idiots ate some fruit anyway? They did nothing wrong. Here is an idea. Create the animals in heaven where they never need to eat or drink or get harmed or die and are happy all the time? Isn't that what an omni benevolent God would do for animals? It seems like God is indifferent to animals. It's almost as if there is no God at all.
@@gabrielteo3636 You know, your solution sounds a lot like heaven. The place God says we can experience after this one. You can’t appreciate something good without experiencing something else first. Also, God could have designed humans and animals the way you say he should have. But if he did that, you wouldn’t have the free will to even come up with the idea in the first place. Those are called robots. Robots do exactly what they’re programmed to do. God could have programmed us all to always have high endorphin, serotonin and dopamine levels so we are always happy.
I don’t want to live here forever. This is a temporary experience that I don’t want forever. I am grateful for this temporary experience.
You say it sounds like there is no God. If there were no God, you would have no idea of what “happy” or “benevolent” even is. Are your ideas of the way God “should have” made this place subjective or objective. If they are objective, where does this objective right or wrong come from if there is no creator? And if it is subjective, what makes your way the better way? It would just be based on what YOU want and not what others want.
And I don’t mean this to be an attack. I genuinely enjoy the conversation.
Cain married one of his sisters (later). "Dinosaurs" is a term invented in the 1800s. The Bible mentions creatures that were what we would call "dinosaur", for example, leviathan, etc.
Or a cousin, or an aunt, or some other relative. We don't see laws against familial marriage until Leviticus. This would have been enough time for the gene pool to have degenerated enough to be a problem for close-family "relations".
The Bible doesn't specifically name a LOT of animals. That doesn't mean they never existed in Biblical times. Dinosaurs are animals, and we are told in Genesis that God created animals.
(Saying all this in supplement to your comment. :) )
not all dinosaurs are large “leviathans” there were many small dinosaurs, and pterosaurs that flew
Came her to say this.
100% brother
The bible makes no mention of dinosaurs. 🤦♂️ The earth is older than 6,000 years old. Faith can be a good thing. Ignorance is not.
First Earth age - there were 'behemoths' - the earth is older than 6K-yrs. Cain got his wife from the 6th day creation (kings & queens of the ethnos). God didn't create man twice; He created THE man Adam (who showed blood in the face/could blush) on the 8th day because He needed a tiller of the field.
There were definitely other people already around, or Cain wouldn't have been scared to go out, "But they'll kill me when they see me!" And so God put a mark on Cain. If the earth was empty, except for Adam/Eve/Cain/Abel, there would've been nobody for Cain to be frightened of.
Cliff is right.
The kid is ignorant, dishonest,
and arrogant.
Because Biologists don’t claim to be ‘all powerful’ or magic, they simply look to make new discoveries, the Bible claims to be the word of God, so if it is, then why doesn’t it have everything in there? God is apparently all knowing.
Cain's wife was his sister. Adam and Eve were the first two people.
No 🙄
That only makes sense...
@@duncanbryson1167 it's the only answer bro... today, marrying your sister is wrong because human genes are polluted with time making it produce imperfect baby. But their genes were clean, so could produce a healthy child.
Just because Adam and Eve were the first two made, doesn't mean he didn't make others. You would know that if you read Genesis.
Correct
On judgement day, every knee will bow. Including this man.
If my knee still works by then by his grace.
What exactly are we getting on our knees for?…. I mean, I love Jesus just as much as the next guy, but I didn’t agree to that.
Don’t know what makes y’all think this so call jesus is coming bck, he never said that. Th Christ is coming in fact, ets already happening.
Oh, it will work just fine!@@kylestephan9340
And he'll be begging for mercy instead of asking goofy questions.
This so-called "Preacher" is 100% Out of Line.
No. Bible absolutely does tell us where Cain got his wife at! "Cain took one of his sisters and fled to the land of Cainan."
John 3:16-17 “For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son so who so ever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world but to save the world through him.” God bless everybody that is reading this prayers for you all and your family in Jesus Christ name amen 🙏
Dude's name wasn't Jesus.
@@SnouthunterJust like it's not to late to delete this comment it's also not to late to repent and accept Christ Jesus into your life. If you continue to reject him he will reject you when he returns.
"And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: and knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
(Matthew 1:21-25)KJV
@@NOPE-po2pq yes
Amen 🙏
@@NOPE-po2pq Amen God bless
I like Cliff's answer, that's so true. Also In Genesis 5:4 it says Adam had other sons & daughters, so I believe Cain married his sister...
Incest is the best plan gods got? Gross!
Which cliff just didn't want to say so he just went on the offensive
I literally just comment this.
Genesis is ridiculous if taken literally, it's laughably wrong and if it's taken allegorically it's still laughable
Cain didn’t marry his sister and Adam was not the first human to be on earth (he was the first made knowing of god) in Genesis 1:26 it talks of the creation of mankind BEFORE Adam and Eve were created
I'm a bit disappointed with Cliffs reaction here, Scripture gives us the direction "But sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have, but doing so with a mild temper and deep respect" - 1st Peter 3:15
Also, the Bible does answer the guys question, Genesis 5:4 "Adam....became father to sons and daughters" Cain took one of his Sisters as a wife. No need to immediately condemn the question as unanswerable and without merit, especially when it is clearly explained in scripture.
Both of these men are in great danger. Hope they both find peace.
The Bible mentions Leviathan
And Behemoth
Your point?
@@goranmilic442 If you read the description you'd see its a description of a dinosaur that God created and he took his sword to. Note verse 19.
Job 40:15-24
“Look at Behemoth,
which I made along with you
and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16 What strength it has in its loins,
what power in the muscles of its belly!
17 Its tail sways like a cedar;
the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze,
its limbs like rods of iron.
19 It ranks first among the works of God,
yet its Maker can approach it with his sword.
20 The hills bring it their produce,
and all the wild animals play nearby.
21 Under the lotus plants it lies,
hidden among the reeds in the marsh.
22 The lotuses conceal it in their shadow;
the poplars by the stream surround it.
23 A raging river does not alarm it;
it is secure, though the Jordan should surge against its mouth.
24 Can anyone capture it by the eyes,
or trap it and pierce its nose?
You should also look into the fact that the dinosaur bones still have material inside of them that decays at a maximum of 100,000 years. Or how they dated brand new lava from a volcano that was decades old but looked 2 million years old according to their tests. Same with synthetic diamonds. Heaven is real, and so is hell. Read the Bible.
I think their point is that the Bible mentions dinosaurs in the book of Job.
You mean the dragon? The one that men fought and couldn't pierce its scales? The one with smoke coming from its nose? 🤣🤣🤣
You think dinosaurs and man walked the earth together? Lmfao
First time I saw Cliffe angry as Hell.
He's mad because the answer goes against his beliefs. Cains wife came from the "Be fruitful and multiply" command from God. The ages were not given when these events happened.
@@antichrist_revealed He isn't mad because it goes against his beliefs, but he is mad because the person Cliffe is talking to was being illogical and dishonest to support their belief system and making false claims about how missing a detail in a story causes it to be false.
Christians usually have anger problems. That's because religion is a mental illness where you talk to and about an imaginary friend. Madness.
He is starting to struggle to make sense in colleges and against students now to so I get why he is angry
@@Goofycontrast He can still say that with out being upset. He won't change his mind by acting like that
His sister btw if you want to know. Adam and Eve had thousands of children. Insect wasn't a thing against God until Noah got out of the ark.
Using the same logic I can argue that "US history is wrong because it doesn't show where Abraham Lincon bought his hat".
I was asked this question decades ago. My thought and answer was God said He created man and then took the rib from man and created women and they were the first...not the only. I've commented this before...people who don't want to believe because they can't stand the thought of being held accountable for their sins against Jesus, the man and only Son of God who died to pay for our sin debt.
Thank you so much for that
I think this too that Yahweh created mankind without giving them specific direction as to what they could and could not eat but only gave these stipulations to Adam and Eve.
It is obvious that Cain was saying there were other people when he told Yah that because of the mark Yah gave him that "anyone who finds me will kill me".
Re-reading Genesis again, yup it says God created men, thats plural. People just needs to go learn english again
He very likely married his sister or niece guys. Sorry
@@pmgrogersanderson9426No it doesnt it says God created Male and Female in Genesis 1:27 not males and females just one singular, Cain is a Son from Adam and Eve
The odd thing is is that the guy that's doesn't believe the Bible ACTUALLY called it a history book! Most non believers call it a book of fairy tales and don't consider it history but yes the Bible is actually a history book. I'm impressed!
He meant 'historical book' ;)
The bible is a bit of both. There's some bad history in it, that's supplemented with fairytale nonsense. The guy commenting above me is correct imo, it should be considered a historical document of ancient philosophy.
@@kyranadrianJesus loves you.
@@user-mw7dp8ir5r good for him. too bad he condemns me to eternal hellfire for not believing in him and blaspheming against him. who knew love could be so malicious.
Well it’s a historical book of fairy tales
better answer instead of raging as a christian: "The bible's focus is not on cain, so why would they mention it? Same with giraffes and dinosaurs. the focus is on god, not the human"
1. He married a sister. (Genesis 3:20, 5:4)
2. Consider Job... (Job 40:15-19)
Cain's wife was... his sister ._____.
Yes 👍
His sister was just off in another land?
@@John_the_Paul no, if I remember correctly, when Cain left he took one of his sisters with him
Maybe. Jews believe that Gentiles weren't made on the image of God. However, they existed. It is possible-- because Cain was sent away that he married a Gentile in another land.
Yep.
Cliffe could just answer the question instead of going on an angry tangent on some random kid
Well to answer the first question here is the explanation
There are many other books of the scriptures that are not in the Bible. If you were to read in one of them it talks about Adam and Eve having daughters so what I can give you is logical explanation that Cain could have married his sister/sisters.
@@-Uknownhuman-Aside from the fact that there is no evidence that would suggest that Adam and Eve ever existed, which renders the explanation void..
You can't explain a mystery by appealing to another mystery..
That's because he can't answer. there is no answer
@@-Uknownhuman- that's fucked up
@@FrogmanhatesQiblifr he avoided the question and tried to embarrass him by being angry
Cain married one of his sisters, for Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters. The prohibition to not marry a close relative did not come into effect until the time of moses, which was after the flood.
The Bible doesn't say that Adam and Eve were the only ones God created. It says they were the first He created. If you're going to call someone or something the first you made, there must be a second.
The Old Testament is basically a family tree of incredible people leading to Jesus. It proves that He was descended from the very first person God put on earth.
This is how pathetic our schools are
They are evil orchestrated indoctrination and conformity camps
I'm from Brazil... Trust me, that happens everywhere around the world I would say
This is the same argument I have for people who get mad at my religion’s view of eternal progression and ask: “If you believe God was once a man, who created Him? And who created that God? Etc.”
How would that answer affect you and your salvation? Further, why would God need to tell you about that for you to accept His word, and all the wonders and good he’s already shown and given you?
The argument for "who created God" is kind of dumb because there has to be something that has been around forever
@@kze24
Perhaps. But Time is not so linear as we naturally think. Endings are not always preceded by beginnings.
@@SchneeflockeMonsoon true
I'm confused by what you said here
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Are you asking if God is eternal? By definition that implies there is no begining or end. Time isn't applicable to something like that. It would be beyond time. Once it stepped into time then it would have a begining within the framework of the time it stepped into. And its end would be the time in which it stepped out of that time.
But just because it stepped in or stepped out wouldn't constitute a begining or end for the entity that was eternal. It would just constitute the moment you could point to it existing within the time it stepped into.
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That isn’t how either infinities (including time) work my friend. We as humans and as scientists know next to nothing about them, but that we do know.
This guy had the arrogance to try to insult someone for asking a question that he could not answer. That is fanaticism and hypocrisy on full display.
Why not answer the question. Cain married a close reletive who ultimately was the progeny of Adam and Eve. Now, wasnt that easy?
Great way of getting angry and avoiding the question
Exactly what I thought ! The pastor man became defensive really quickly and wound himself up like a child, having a tantrum, when all he had to do was just be honest and say that he didn’t know !
Exactly he totally avoided the question and it’s even worse because the Bible actually has the answer to the question the kid asked. He just doesn’t know the answer 😂😂😂
@@calebwillillhight hahaha, makes me wonder what pastor man’s message is and his intentions ? Actually, if I was exploring Christianity, his little Timmy Tantrum and total disrespect for the kid, who, i thought had a valid question and was worth exploring, would have put me off that path !
The pastor did answer his question later in the video in which the video cut off, he answers by saying that Cains Wife is one of his sisters, but he was more worried about how the student was willing to discredit all of the Bible over where Cain got his wife from? It’s very arrogant on the students part and it offends everyone who has ever studied the Bible
Honestly, I’m a believer, but this Pastor lost his cool and resorted to hurling insults… at a kid 🤦🏻♀️ like, bro that’s pathetic. He’s lucky the kid _was_ asking decently in a composed manner, unlike the Pastor. Now he’s cemented this kids preconceived notions about religion even more because of this junk way the Pastor responded 👎🏻 Learn how to respond in the way Jesus would have or sit down, Sir
You’re exactly right cliff I’m so glad that you tell it like it is and you don’t sugarcoat anything these college students for real stupid hardly it’s because I have a liberal teachers that tell them there is no God and not to believe in God keep up the good work leave hopefully some of these people will get saved
You would’ve been better off staying in liberal school dude, your grammar is terrible.
We need Jesus 😢
@@hampter4531 nahh.... i need god. The supreme one, the Most powerfull one, the Most wise, the Most forgiving one, the one who doesnt get born nor is he created, the creator of all things!! Jesus pbuh whas born and weak and mortal and i can go on and on why he CANT be god. Im mindblowing how ppl perceive jesus pbuh as the one who i described starting this comment🤔
@@moustag5765 what? Lol I did not understand anything. Say that in English grammar please
@@hampter4531fr i didn’t understand that either. When I read it in my head it sounded like he was hyper ventilating
The college kid had a great question, and the answer was to disparage other texts. History is rife with texts throughout the millennia, there are thousands of biology texts that have been written. I stand with the kid. Back up your Bible with something instead of tearing down other disciplines. False equivalencies do not make your argument true Cliffe.
Logically, if you’re going literal, Caine wife was his sister. Furthermore; he went to the land of Nod where he procreated Enoch and built his first city in his namesake. This is a nail in the coffin of biblical literalism.
Cliffe is correct, where the Bible is silent doesn't make it false. Since the Bible says Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters, you can conclude Cain married his sister.
People have said this but why then when Yahweh marked Cain did he say that "anyone who finds me will kill me"? Who is he speaking of if he is not just simply speaking of Adam and Eve?
His brothers an sisters Satan an his minions the wild animals in the wilderness like dinosaurs 🦖🦕 he had a protection that man an beast will know
@@jannaswanson271if Adam lived 800 years I can imagine how many children they had
I agree, back then, before the DNA was corrupted it wouldn’t of been bad to sleep with your cousin or your sister
@@blossominginchrist That is true but the Scripture tells us that Cain was cast out from the presence of the Lord and went to dwell in Nod, not that he circled back 15-20 years later and married his sister.
Oh man thank you for teaching me to think outside of the worldview box. God bless you.
This college student is so ingorent and also uninformed. He said the Bible is a book of history and by this he is implying that the Bible is historically accurate.
Bible didn’t mention iPhones either but Jesus is still king
High school history books don’t make the claim of being infallible
Completely besides the point!..The preacher is 100% correct because just because every single detail is not mentioned doesn't mean it's false!
Completely besides the point!..The preacher is 100% correct because just because every single detail is not mentioned doesn't mean it's false!
Completely besides the point!..The preacher is 100% correct because just because every single detail is not mentioned doesn't mean it's false!
Im a Christian too but this was a triggered emotional response with flawed logic to a reasonable question.
Being sped up makes it sound worse. He answers his question later but was more concerned he said the Bible wasn't true if it didn't answer that one question.
A lukewarm Christian this question is from the enemy neither you or anyone truly cares who Cain married. This question has one purpose to try n prove the Bible is false. 100s of prophecies fulfilled actual events of Jesus performing miracles then sacrificing his body without sin so we all can have eternal life not condemned. You want to be in the path of God's wrath with this nonsense repent quickly seriously
Yes it was an emotional response to a disingenuous question,but the logic is sound. The absence of details in a book does not (alone) refute the information provided. Otherwise every piece of literature ever written would be deemed invalid.
@@bassfreak84the logic is not sound.
If god told us everything, the bible would still be being written today
Cain married his sister. God didn't make marrying close relatives forbidden until post-Moses
He went to the land of nod it’s right there in the Bible.
But if the only living humans at the time were Adam, Eve, and Able (that was killed), it does make you wonder were Cain's wife came from..
@@melvinmolly4151 First of all the book of genesis is frequently arranged in a non-chronological order. So, after it describes the murder of Abel, it flashes back to before Abel was murdered and talks about Adam and Eve having many sons and daughters. Therefore, Cain married one of his many sisters
AMEN!!!!!!! JESUS IS THE WAY THE TRUTHHHHH AND THE LIFE!!!!!!!!💙😇🙏🏽☦️☦️☦️☦️
@@damiangil83 No! TH COMMANDMENTS(TORAH/TANAHK IS TH WAY TH TRUTH AND TH LIFE!!!!!!!!🌘🌒🌓🌖🌕🌞☘️🍀💐🪺🦢🐇
Who is Jesus? He wasn't that one you speak of because that wasn't his name... Duh.
@@Snouthunter all this Bible shet is made up. All is a “SPELL” placed upon th people.
@@Snouthunter its a transliteration of his name...
Absolutely! And they actually believe that they’re brilliant too! SMH!
Cliff wasn’t mad at the question. He was angry at the logic the young man was using to conclude that the Bible is false. His response is attacking the young man’s thinking and deductive reasoning. He’s essentially trying to help the young man see how foolish it would be to call any book (not just the Bible) false just because it doesn’t provide every detail or answer all of our questions.
My dad used to fuss at me when I did dumb things as a child. My mom used to talk to me about the dumb things I did. I appreciate them both, though they handled me in two totally different ways. Don’t miss messages in life for the sake of how they’re delivered.
No he was mad at the question because he couldn't make some s*** up
@@eternity4283And so, you didn't even read the comment..
slow to speak, slow to wrath
I agree, that poor straw man could be using much better logic to reason the bible is false.
Dude blew up because he didn't have an answer for where Cains wife came from, and he never answered so where did she come from???
Whoosh 💨
Tell us you didn't understand the video without telling us you didn't understand the video.
@pcdeltalink036 Cliffe over reacted to this question. It's not that Cliffe didn't answer the question, it's the fact that Cliffe resorted to name calling and insulting the guy that asked him the question. Why was Cliffe so angry?
@@susangraham1203 It's obvious why Cliffe was so angry. It wasn't that the guy asked a question. It's that the guy was ready to dismiss the entire Bible as false simply because it didn't have one tiny insignificant detail in it. That is a HUGE logical misstep and I can understand someone becoming very aggravated over it. It would be like me saying a history book on George Washington was false if they didn't tell me what color shirt he wore on that Tuesday or something equally as absurd.
@pcdeltalink036 As a Christian, Cliffe should not have reacted the way he did. It doesn't matter what the young man's motive was or wasn't. Cliffe did not respond with love. I have seen him in other videos. He seems to get frustrated quite often when people ask him questions. Sometimes, he is respectful. Quite often, he is not. I have also seen him on other media, and he is not always pleasant and gets quite flustered at times.
The Bible doesn’t mention movies and TV. Guess I was tricked the whole time.
The kid is making a point about young earth creationism. If God made just Adam and Eve, and all humanity are descended from them, then where did Cain's wife come from? I think what the kid was getting at was a valid question that Cliff couldn't answer
The divine books teach and guide humans in two fundamental aspects: how to worship God and how to live while worshiping God. Anything that does not encompass these two points does not need to be mentioned by God, and God knows best. The stories mentioned in the divine books are not bedtime stories; rather, they are stories filled with lessons and wisdom that must be studied and reflected upon. Any detail in the story that does not contain wisdom or benefit for the reader does not need to be mentioned as well.
what about the one where the two kids poisoned their father and raped him?
Exactly. They are stories
Good ones too!
I guess the kid hit a nerve 😂
Cause its true. It's just a book. The same way he says there is no book that describes all history ,the bible applies to his own statement. Religious people, understand you cant claim something to be 100 percent fact if cant answer it with 100% fact. The fact that he says "what difference does it make if I cant answer that question " it makes all the difference. It means you just talking to get someone to believe you. There is no facts. Just emotions and beliefs. The lack of evidence. That why he got so mad. He tried to insult this young man's intelligence but ended exposing his own lack of critical thinking. When faced with critical thought this is typical the response. Imma chill cause I actually like this old dude. This is just embarrassing.
@@ptomelusseptim8806name me one book that mentions everything that happened during history, including every detail?
@@ptomelusseptim8806He didn't insult the kid. He spoke the truth. If you think the Word of GOD is just a book then by all means say that to GOD and watch how GOD answers you. The one thing that GOD has done is to limit the knowledge and information of man. Man is not smarter than GOD.
@@ptomelusseptim8806you accuse this man of “lacking critical thinking” yet you clearly don’t understand his very simple argument
The same terrible, tired, dishonest new atheist arguments get old after a while.
When he can't answer he calls him arrogant
This is what happens when a Theist has to face the fact that the bible is full of contradictions, and thats just one of the first ones.
Cliff losing it is kind of embarrassing. I understand the kid attacked his religion and faith, but Cliff is the adult and could've answered calmly while still drilling into the kid.
He certainly lost his cool. However, referring to the young man as a “kid”-he’s a young adult. Cliff is addressing him as such. Especially at a Uni, where critical thinking and rationality should be exemplified.
that guy aint a kid. look at that facial hair. he has to atleast be like 22. while yes that isnt old, it is an adult. and it is in no way a kid
@@imamoocow4Dude, there's 12 year olds or around that age with that kinda facial hair, he doesn't have to be 22 in order to have that kinda facial hair.
It wasn't even an attack. The kid asked a question.
Us Jews legit will sit down with you and discuss parts of the Torah if you ask, even if you ask rudely.
@@isaacjuarez569funnily enough, majority of teachers, even at uni, will tell you TO ASK QUESTIONS. that's the thing people like you don't understand. Critical thinking isn't just being able to understand every single thing, but being able to look at something, and ask a question.
This is a pretty weak response from Cliffe, he got very heated for an honest question
was it? asking about a guys wife which has no impact or relevance on why he needs to repent and follow Christ nor does it have anything to do with his current mountain of sin.
@@onlymyself7225 a lack of inconsistencies in the Bible is one of the things that make it stand out. It has no impact on what Christ says but it speaks to the books reliability.
Cliff did well. Great job Cliff on calling them out!! 👏🏽
The history book on George Washington didn't tell me what he ate everyday or when he first lost his virginity or even how many times he shit so that means George Washington didn't exist or it's unreliable to trust the history books at all? That's the equivalent of what that guy said to cliffe
@onlymyself7225 he answered his question with a question then insulted him as a cover up for not having an answer.
I’m an atheist. But asking where Cain got his wife is a stupid question. There’s only one place he could have gotten his wife, it’s obvious within the narrative. Dude married his sister. There’s literally zero other option given the narrative.
Read the text again.
@@philfree5261 not super helpful. How’s about a clue?
The Bible is a library. 67 books written by 40 authors over 1500 years and in 3 languages. All confirming Jesus.
If cain was able. His wife wasn't able too😂
Cliffe - answer the question calmly and stop being so angry.
Righteous anger
The dude asking the question was being a dick. So if you be a dick, then expect to be dicked around.
Cliff is een gevaarlijke psychopaat
He just doesn't have an answer, because the whole story is BS. He is just angry about the fact he happens to be in the position to find an explanation for that nonsense.
@@stephengibbons3049 He was not righteous anger.
Imagine asking questions at an university uuuh the audacity. The place we are supposed to learn without having doubts. Is that even possible?
Not everything is in the bible, WWII was not in the Bible and still was profetise at the apperations of Mary in Fatima (Portugal) in 1917
“The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters.”
Genesis 5:4
It’s clear that Cain married his sister but back with Adam they needed to populate the earth so it wasnt like it is today with incest. You didn’t had deformities. They had to multiply.
The Bible tells where Cain got his wife...
Nope. It doesn't.
@@khrystalkhoury62 Yes, it does. "And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and *daughters* - Genesis 5:4
He obviously married one of his sisters. There was no prohibition against that in those first years.
@@khrystalkhoury62 Why did a mark have to be put on Cain?
That was a good question
It wasn't.
Genesis 5:4 states, "The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters.
It's his sister. However he was going after the claim that if it didn't say then it proved the Bible false.
It doesn’t say in the Bible how the carnivores had to wait till their prey reproduced so the could eat after the ark landed
they say in the Garden they all ate plants) even the shark apparently)
Caines wife would have been his sister, which back then was completely acceptable.
Cain married one of his sisters. Adam and Eve had sons and DAUGHTERS, so Cain married one of them.
Its not a dishonest question when Christians claim that every person came from Adam and eve.
Genesis 5:4 states, "The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters.
Also people don't seem to get that God manifested and blessed each offspring with different blood lines different blood types for each and every new human at that point so each would have been brother and sister by birth yet not blood type along with God created many other men and women after Adam and Eve further on each of the Twelve tribes had an array of different bloodline and types.
@@S.P.E.F.Mhow do you know
@@S.P.E.F.M and you know this how?
@@amt4653 ok, so you're agreeing with me. I'm asking because your statement confirms my case
What's embarrassing is rage when confronted with sheer reality.
I don't think there's rage, the fact it's sped up makes it sound a lot more emotive.
But the Bible does give the DETAILS about How Cain got his wife. Adam and Eve Had SONS AND DAUGHTERS and lived 930 years. Cain and Abel were TWINS; By the time they Grew up: they had brothers and sisters. Cain married one of his sisters.
His whole question and intent with asking it is a whole illogical fallacy
Dude got triggered because he knew that he could not answer the question. Getting mad & yelling didn't help him one bit. It just made him look crazy & unhinged.
I noticed one thing that sets Cliffe off when he was younger. Intellectual dishonesty.
Cain....where'd you get your WiFi?...
@Adam-zn9yh FOR KANE!!!
god doesnt know how wifi works.
God knows everything @@dfjpr
God made more people than just Adam and Eve. Easy. Only answer too.
@@dayotll God only made 1 woman in the first three thousand years. You can't just change the word of God. He made men get pregnant together, end of story.
Kid hit that man's nerve 😂😂😂
That’s what I was paying attention to.
The Christian church is apostate and against the 10 commandments. They teach the opposite of what the Messiah did, preaching faith alone, OSAS, pretrib rapture nonsense, and they're promoting pagan idolatry like Christmas and Easter. Google the origins of these holidays, it's all ancient Roman and Babylonian god worship that the Lord hates, found nowhere in the Bible. If you want to be saved then you need to actually start obeying the instruction of God, which means not being a partaker of this stuff and keeping the 10 commandments. The church follows the Roman Empire's 321 AD Sunday law instead of the actual Saturday Sabbath commandment, which is the same problem Christ had with the Pharisees
Mark 7:6-7
King James Version
6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
We're supposed to follow the Messiah in truth. Flee from the lies of the church and repent. We can't break the Sabbath, eat abominations like pork and shellfish, or be a partaker of worldly idolatry like praying to wood statues or crosses or christmas and easter. Yeshua, the Messiah, taught you how to be great in the kingdom:
Matthew 5:19
King James Version
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Loving your neighbor means to rebuke sinners so they repent:
Leviticus 19:17-18
King James Version
17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.
But the hippie Jesus church prefers tolerance which is why they're going to be destroyed.b
foolishness is evil..its a cancer to the world
One of the worst cliff moments here. He should have just said we aren't told, but since the bible says that we're all related to one man adam and inter family marriages werent banned until much later, it's probably safe to assume that Cain married his sister.
The Bible is 100% true
"Thanks for staying so chill man - Now we can see why kids bury their heads in their phones"