LADY GAGA "Shallow" LAWSUIT | Why This Will Keep Happening
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- čas přidán 11. 08. 2019
- In this episode Rhett Shull and I discuss the new Lady Gaga "Shallow" lawsuit, why this keeps happening and how we can change it.
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"I wrote a song once that has an E Major chord, therefore I can sue every songwriter who wrote every song after that!" That is the mentality we are dealing with here, friends.
Youd be sued by everyone who used the chord before you though
sadly you are not wrong. And the enablers aka lawyers and politicians are manically greedy and without scruples on the one hand and utterly clueless and without scruples on the other.
Are the other chords on your song less bankable?
WTF Dude? My song starts with a E Major - I'll see you in court scumbag
reno145 I’ve written several songs in E major. Maybe I should sue you! 😄😄
I think Rick could make a lot of money as an expert witness in these things.
too right man! that would be awesome to watch
Not a bad idea!
They use musicologists as expert witnesses.
I doubt Rick needs anymore money with a studio like that lol
Could be what he's angling for, no? Maybe he's a step or two ahead of you.
That's like a writer suing everyone that has the phrase "Once Upon a Time" in their story.
I don't know anything about music theory, I don't even play an instrument, but I like music and this type of content that Rick produces is absolutely fascinating.
You are not alone.
One Last Time - Ariana Grande also uses this melody in the chorus.
intravena Totally!
I just posted that then saw your comment and so deleted it lol!
Does she even write music? haha
pipperoooo She’s still responsible for being sued regardless lol
@@nsc217 Yep which is even funnier. haha
Lady Gaga lawyers should play this video for the judge when they go to court!! Case dismissed!!
If it is based on three cords, they will get destroyed in court, even by bad lawyers.
No their lawyers will spend 1000 hours at $500 an hour doing ‘research’ - then provide a one hour summary of this video!
"Yes your honor, we did not rip off anyone's chords. We used off the shelf manufactured music like everyone else."
Yasss
Third Eye Blind should now come in and sue this Steve Ronsen guy because his song (Almost) sounds like Semi-charmed Kind of Life.
Music is an endless chain of artists learning from each other.
Well said mr clapper
Everything is kinda like that: cooking, science, carpentry...whatever
@@NoName-to5xl yep, it is the nature of art
Seems the learning stopped in 2010 and it has turned into formulaic garbage
@@dvvaughn564 That's what you think because you only listen to the radio lmao
As someone who suffers from depression, I sometimes put my feelings into what I would class as songs. There nothing special and there just personal to me normally. But recently I shared a couple with a close friend and she said that one that I had sent her was very similar to a band she listens to. She sent me a link to this particular track and to be fair I could see where she was coming from. But it was a song from a band I had never ever heard of. So my point being. At some point two different people will write or compose something that is so similar it must happen far more than people claim or own up to.
My first song I learnt years later was a chordal conflation of two of my favourite songs.
Yup, because we all share the same world with the same human nature with the same range of emotions and in many cases the same language and in the case of music the same 12 notes.
So, we are bound to end up copying each other. The problem lies in ego (wanting to be original/ first) and money (don't take a slice of my pie).
Everything under the sun had been done. Unless someone discovers new unknown notes, then no one is original. A great artist once said we are all thieving magpies.
My opinion : they are using ( midi )
This computer does it for you ... Art , and music is a human thing ... The computer is a cool tool , but ... the current conversation is a result of a computer trying to create for you ... If you think I'm making it up . Why master songwriting , when a computer can do it for you
Guy on the right looks like Pre Malone
Hahaha +20 internet points
Dude....spot on comment
I was yawning and bursted out laughing after reading this
I laughed way fuckin hard at this
He actually doesn't and this joke has been done too many times
As a non-musician it blows my mind how dialed into everything these guys are about music. I had no idea how structured and exact music was.
It’s probably as well connected as math. Everything is tied to together in some way.
@@stephen5601 It really is
Music is fundamentally about making and breaking of patterns, so relational structure plays a big part. It also partly 'looks' structured because the language for describing music emphasises structure and connections: essentially, the language is designed to describe the things that can be structured. It would be equally fair to say that there are lots of things about music that cannot be captured in notation or terminology but that are fundamentally important: e.g. the difference between two people's performance of the same set of notes, or differences in tone, timbre, presence, space that we can describe only metaphorically.
It has always been this way. Bach, Mozart and Beethovan were constrained by the norms of what was acceptable in their day. Everything from key changes to tempos to harmonies had to follow fairly strict rules. The genius of great song writing is how to excel within those constraints or else to create such compelling exceptions that the rules themselves are changed.
@@gunkulator1 I thought Beethoven was actually quite controversial in his time because he broke the rules of the musical forms at that time. Does anybody know? But yeah, I believe musical genius often both utilize constraints and breaks them as well
Would love to see Rick & Rhett w/guitars in hand in the Courtroom explaining this to the jury!
You know this video will be played to the jury, once the defense hears… and they will
This is what happens when the record executives decide that everything should taste like chicken.
Great Analogy.
OK...I like it...but what if it's not chicken and just tastes like chicken...where am I going with this? I don't know. It would be an awesome conversation with the right crowd :)
🤣🤣🤣🤣brilliant
Or when it _does_ present something other than chicken, it still drowns it in the exact same sauce! One of Rick's recent videos included Hip Hop, R&B, and Dance playlists from Spotify. The Mix, EQ, FX, and (of course) Autotune on _everything_ has managed to make even totally different _genres_ of music sound totally homogeneous.
As long as there is fried chicken. I will be okay with that.
I just died laughing. Rhett instantly goes bass-face when playing Sting. Totally different than his guitar face! LOL.
The Stones 'Play with Fire' is dated 1965 and has exactly the same progression.
As an engineering major in the late 70s, I was forced to take a few non-science classes. One of them was "Listening to Music." An easy 3 semester hours, right? THAT was surprisingly the most enlightening class of my college years. Rick is spot on!!! Good music is unique music - an art - not a science.
It amazes me how these guys can just start playing that complex Steely Dan intro together just at the drop of a hat with no sheet music or anything, and play it perfectly! I would have to study those charts for for a week and then still probably wouldn't be able to play it as well even with the music right in front of me! It's pretty amazing to watch pros at work!
I feel your pain.
"Next lifetime", I always say.
"Force fed a very simple harmonic diet." Well said!
I invented the chromatic scale, everyone please forward your royalty cheques to me. Thank you.
@Kaptain Kid - Wouldn't that be like a patent, or something?
Don't forget me, i copyrighted V - I ...
I had the circle of filth patented, no on is paying:-(
@@TKMajor-TK. A patent only lasts for 20 years. Copyright lasts for 70 years and 1 day after the death of the composer.
@@lasentinal -- Well, if we're gonna get into the weeds ;) -- utility and plant patents last for 20 years -- but *design* patents only last 15. But, anyhow, the gist of my thinking was that patents are for inventions while copyrights are for "original works of authorship including literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works, such as poetry, novels, movies, songs, computer software, and architecture." ( -- USPTO) If you see my thinking, there; after all, the original comment was "I invented..." =)
Rick, what a great video. Another reason we all love your channel. “Imagine people today in traffic hearing that in their cars . . . they wouldn’t know what to do.” I almost fell out of my chair laughing. So great, and such a great music history lesson as well!
It's like trying to claim G D C chord prog as your own "invention"
But the way I play it is different. 😂
D major scale with a bend on the last note - it is mine! xD
The blues.
@@dushk0 I claim the G D C chord prog with a dodgy B string that's ever so slightly sharp on the D and C, and slightly flat on the G :D
It's also in a song I wrote 25 years ago, and has probably been heard by about 5,000 people. It's also in about 10 Million other songs...
Hahaha,yeah! That's why it's so rediculous!
Dude, you should like, sue someone
wow hold your horses, my grand pa that just die recently when they change the law to Life plus 100 years for copy right left me a song that he wrote 70 years ago, I believe I am own for that chord progression, for the last 95 years of his life plus no one is allowed to write a song with the same chord progression in the next 100 year$ UMG start sending my check$ and no one dares to touch the F# scale
Oh yeah great video, you should definitely start a consultancy firm for people that are been sued in music.
well, with a good lawyer and a jury of millennials ....
Weird flex
I love how this goes into the idea of bringing back complex music that isn't just a cashgrab
Starting around 14 years old I decided I was tired of the same old music styles and ended up getting into music from other cultures. Today I love music from Brazil, India, and Greece to name a couple. I find that their lyrics are more interesting as a instrument with the music when I can't understand what they're actually saying.
Me too, me too!! World music is a beautiful way to get out of a compositional rut -- different scales, different rhythms, less influence of lyric! Afropop, North African, flamenco (Camaron!), K & J pops, Latin American (100s of styles from Argentina to Mexico), all of the Silk Road countries...my husband and I once tried to listen to the most popular song in every country in Africa...totally awesome CZcams videos for a lot of them...not to mention all the European countries and music of indigenous people all over the world. Set off to write a piece of music influenced by each genre and you won't return to GO in this lifetime and chances are you won't sound like you're plagiarizing pop hits -- just don't plagiarize any of these artists' works either!
Unfortunately, America has this thing with being isolationist. It’s hard for people to listen to music that’s not in English. Plus, some people would prefer just listening to rock music where the rhythm is much simpler so they can just jump up and down instead of the more complicated rhythms of other countries where you actually have to, feel the beat or swing in a different way. Hahahahaha
As I was born in the 60’s my mother stayed home and both parents played instruments, Piano and Guitar. Subsequently we all learned 1 or 2 instruments growing up. Love the way you dissect a song too.
Maybe they should have the Axis of Awesome video played before every court proceeding?
Bloody oath! Ozzie bloody legends!
That was the first thing that came to mind for me too!
yes. but so called Music Experts like Todd Decker are saying thats not bogus.
The court would declare the claim moot and not waste the time hearing it, or everybody would owe the original composer royalties (was the Journey???)
Especially in front of the jury. After watching the whole video I bet they'd stand up and say at one voice "NOT GUILTY!". :D
What makes this CHANNEL great? Uploads like this one! Your not only musical genius, but I love your witty sarcasm lol
I know this is going to look like an "old people against the world" thing, but I couldn't agree more. Learning music as a kid was important to me, and even though I have a non-creative career, I love not just listening to music but playing it and being able to understand and analyze it a bit. It expands your world! And yes, studies have shown that popular music produced currently is indeed less complex in structure, has less intelligent lyrics, and has less instruments involved in it than that of 30, 40, 50 years ago.
Yeah same, I personally hope rock will make a major comeback. But if it's punk-pop it's also going the right way I guess. But yeah totally same with making and understanding music. Can't live without it.
Loved this video! You made a great point about kids today not playing musical instruments. I'm from England and was born in 1949. I started playing drums in 1963 after hearing Ringo! But before that I played clarinet in the school orchestra. Practically every kid at school played something! And when the beat boom really took of there were thousands of groups/bands playing gigs, big or small. I believe that many of those kids became the backbone of the British music scene which was so strong for so many years after.
This reminds me so much of what has happened with the movie industry: everything is formulaic.
largely true for the videogame industry too, although there the odds of a unique product becoming reasonably popular seem much better
Not only that, but it's all remakes and reboots. We need more original films, not another version of The Incredible Hulk or another remake of an 80's movie with the sex or ethnicity of the main characters changed.
It's true of everything. It's the focus on profit instead of quality or doing something worthwhile.
This video, from where you began the Sting references, made me glad I am 51 and had my own lifetime full of these wonderful songs from the 70s and 80s that are constantly in rotation in my music catalog. That Sting song has always been an ultimate favorite of mine since day 1. Being a drummer, Omar Hakim's drumming on that was spectacular and just that record alone taught me a lot about the more complex drumming than what I was playing before it. I was 17 when Blue Turtles was released, and it was a remarkable album front to back. But I was a late bloomer in that field but that Sting reference reminded me of what amazing music from my childhood in the 70s to my teens and young adulthood in the 80s means now. Great video, Rick. I love how you seem to have your finger on the pulse of music from now and then and do so effortlessly and with education and enthusiasm all in most videos I've watched.
In my day, so many friends played instruments that we couldn't help but to get together and jam. This spirit is what created many of the great California bands. In our case, we discovered a free outlet at the back of our elementary school in a cemented area between bathrooms, which became our stage. Unknown to the parents in the neighborhood, this is where we held numerous wild concerts...
Dude this guy really lets you peek behind the curtain of the music business.
Thank God you talk about Steely Dan. Educate! Educate! Educate! Save music. Love your channel Rick
Yes!!!
I love how he gave examples of other songs that had that same chord progression. More please.
Check out Axis of Awesome - 4-chord songs....
NightwishLover I love that song. Lol
Inbetween the Axis of Awesome progression , and the fifties progression , that's 90% of all songs .
I'm in my mid 70's and played piano from age 8 . I listened to every kind of music and still do . I taught myself to play bass in my 20's using the Monk Montgoomery bass book. I mostly don't listen to Spotify unless a friend recommends a particular song or artist. I just started listening to your channel and enjoy it very much. Thank you. I'll be back for more.
A big part of the dumbing down has been the elimination of Music Class in Public Schools. My kids went to Private School and both play instruments. My nephews and nieces did public, and none of them play a thing.
I am a Baby Boomer and unless you were in the school band all we did was sing sometimes. Had a 2rd grade teacher who started everyday with us singing songs to her piano playing. One summer school session we gathered every morning to sing songs in the auditorium.
Depends on the school district. In elementary public school I started clarinet in the 5th grade-went to private school in 7th grade, and they had no instrumentals at all, then in high school, in another city, public school, I took up flute so I could play in the band-they had strings as well. I bet more public schools than you realize, have band and orchestra…at least in larger populations.
I love how he somehow manages to work "in bloom" into almost every video. 🤣
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@@jackwezesa1081 ?
2119 top tracks: #1 sine-wave 440hz, #2 square 220hz...
I prefer sine-wave 432hz
song must be in chakra temperament
😂❤️
Raises lawsuit alleging "@Nicolas Cage's song Sine-Wave 440hz is too harmonically similar to my single A5!!"
I still hear 60 Hz a lot though. I don't think it's going away.
Props for the Sturgill mention!
He's one of a whole category of artists/writers that the "Nashville" establishment just doesn't understand. Guys like Sam Riggs, Tyler Childress, Cody Jinks, Whiskey Myers, and even Chris Stapleton.
Thank you for all of your great videos! I have learned, and continue to learn so much from you. I appreciate you!
Also sounds like ariane grande, one last time
Also, Lithium. I remember figuring out those Nirvana progressions as a newbie teenager and instantly recognising that they were going places my hands weren't expecting.
How is it possible they started “Dust in the Wind” and didn’t finish it? That’s self control right there.
Ha It would take master self control for me to even start playing that awful song. The band that played that song, Foreigner, Kansas..... whoever, both of those bands obviously paid to have their crap played on the radio. Greed and the dumb-down of society. That is the only reason why crap like this existed and still exists on the radio. But if that's what you like, go for it enjoy!
Didn’t think that comment would upset anyone that much 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Are you sure it wasn't "One call away" that they started?
@@richardm4857 Well, Rick Beato clearly disagrees with you. He even has a "What Makes This Song Great" video about Kansas' '"Wayward Son.'
hahahahahahahaha
I think channels like this are how we will change the level of listening sophistication going forward. Thanks for what you do Rick!
AHAHAHA THE MOMENT YOU PLAYED THOSE NOTES I HEARD ABOUT FOUR THOUSAND SONGS. Every tom petty song ever aha
If only the courts hearing these absurd music lawsuits were subscribers to Rick's channel !
Yeah!
3:38- Nigel Tufnel is now suing Rick for the length of sustain his Les Paul achieved while playing.
Matt Howard yeah, cause Rick’s goes to 12
@Kaptain Kid I think you got a solid case !
Some say that you can still hear it to this day....
I still hear the sustain going after all these years...
LOLOLOL!!!!
I love how you break this down. Just straight up informative with out seeming condescending. The examples are spot on, too. Thanks for this.
When i first heard "Nevermind" I was blown away. Never heard anything like it.
Always love that “If I Fell” example of beautiful chord/melody combo
what is even better is that tape of him writing it-he tries lots of notes very tentatively-then in a rush sings the notes we know.
Sting's music is deceptive. It sounds simple and easily accessible. But it's really hard to play. Way to nail the guitar parts, Rick.
One of the things I love about Sting is how he has a blast placing beautiful chord-extension notes (9th, 11th and 13th) in his sung melodies...
Sting also has more than a couple of 7/8 time songs too. Don’t hear that often anymore.
Stings mom was a piano teacher. He had a great background in complex chordal structures with a classical background, Before he became a pop musician.
Very complicated, indeed.
I have to put in a good word for listening to classical music, because that has made me gravitate towards more sophisticated harmonies in rock.
I agree, but it is more than harmonies….it’s also rhythm and time signatures.
Great discussion. Its particularly interesting to me as a songwriter that the top line melodies these days are like the scratch ones I would often reject on my way to finding a melody that was made up of great small phrases that took you on a journey. Anything by Bacharach or the Beatles was always the reference. Vocal top lines these days are more like riffs, repeated 3 times with a little turn around on the forth time to conclude the part.
Rhett: "I was born in 1990..."
Me: "well, I didn't think I was old until now"
yeah... i actually thought he's older than me for some reason. /feelsoldnow :D
I was born in 1993 I love old school metal but mostly early Judas Priest
I was born in an era when MTV still played music. Now that's old! Lol
Yeah, that awkward moment when you think that Rhett is older than you (well, I DO look young), yet you are the one who's actually older by 5 years...
@@acdcking1234 Same, '94 \m/
Music copyright claims should always be arbitrated by musicians. Not music listeners! Idiocy.
Yes! Totally agree. Listeners are not peers. Other musicians are.
@@MsBettyRubble The first thing a court does is dismiss any jury member who is informed in anyway on the elements of a case.
@Idle Canvas - Except that the tendency you speak of, based on an (historical) effort to remove bias and prejudice in fact increases it in cases outside of the "normal" experiences of the jurors. To be completely removed from prejudice would require enlisting only non-terran aliens or computers as jurors. What we have now is a practice that enlists "expert witnesses" to testify (and hopefully clarify) the facts for the non-expert jurors, but in an era when fewer and fewer people regularly play musical instruments, their opinions are too often swayed by the social and psychological factors of these so-called experts. Who vets the experts? It is an unresolved problem, but perhaps with the ability to admit (vetted) evidence from the internet, justice can be made more fair.
people like rick should become copyright lawyers, only touching cases that involve music copyright
@@cycadaacolyte6349 Terrtible.
Thank you guys for your great analysis! It explains a lot as to what has happened to music in the last 20 yrs.
Great points, guys. My brother took me through my young life like I was living in the movie Almost Famous. Music is our passion. Your expositions, while often way beyond my understanding, are never beyond my passion. Dorian, Lydian...love it all even if it just reminds me how diverse doh re mi fa so la ti doh can be from the minds and to the hands and vocal cords of masters. Thank you. Keep it up. We're listening and learning. Happy 2021!
Noel Gallagher said on hot ones he doesn't play for the fans because fans don't know what they want until you give it to them. I liked it.
Steve Jobs said that too. Wild.
I was instantly reminded of dust in the wind when he showed the chord progression. Glad to know he mentioned it.
Hiya . I think I hear a Clapton tune in that melody as well . I dig ur channel . Nice to hear shop talk from someone who knows what they're talking about . By the way , that inversion of D/F# is often refered to as a 6/3 chord , ( usefull when studying voice leading , I'm sure you know ) . Keep up the good work .Peace .
Love this channel! We learn every time we pull up one of your videos!
I find this lawsuit rather.... shallow.
ha !
oh no you di'int!
Get out.....
I see what you did there! Hahahaha.......
Ooooookey dokie
u deserve a percentage of the royalties
Yessssss!
I love the Nirvana reference that's why grunge music is unique.
I thought it was green day's brain stew....
Maggie, it’s In Bloom by Nirvana.
What is this grunge you speak of? hahaha
Well yeah.... But I never even really listened to Nirvana much to begin with. TBH I feel like Hole had better staying power--but that's an unpopular opinion.
Dennis Lewis unfortunately their biggest hit was 1456
I'd argue playing video games expands your musical palette. Composers from all over the video game spectrum compose every kind of genre there is, and to keep interest, the same 4 chords won't cut it. Have you heard Japanese composers in games? They're insane with the type of music they produce. From series such as Zelda, Sonic, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Persona, the list goes on and on.
Loved this video. Great job, Rick. AND I discovered Rhett! Nice.
I was a teenager in the mid 70’s in Canada and where I learned to play guitar was in high school. You could actually take a guitar class all through high school. As you mentioned now it’s all about video games. Times have changed here in Canada and there is no such thing as guitar classes in schools anymore. I think kids are missing out these days, if they are lucky and have a parent or relative that plays an instrument that is probably the only way they can learn. 🎸🪕
macgurrl my dad had a guitar in our garage so I took it and learned from CZcams videos and Ultimare Guitar when I was 15 :) that was over ten years ago so there's way more resources now I'm sure than what I was using
There's band and you can choose guitar!
You don't know what you're talking about. There's guitar class in high school in Ontario in 2019.
Suicniv Relleum same here in Saskatchewan
i work at a school, that has 9 nice acoustic and two electric guitars sitting in storage as no one wants to teach them or learn them, and the focus is on music games, there is still orchestral focus, but little to no music theory and creative fun. The kids are basically eternally in a rush to leave the class to play on their phones.
Great Chord Progression is Innerstate Love Song by Stone Temple Pilots, their Guitarist is a Jazz player and uses suspended chords.
That chord Progression of Em, D, G is also Journey's Trial by Fire in 1996
its only taste and elitism that says a sus Chord or any 'complex' chord is better than say C major... same for progressions
Stone Temples hugely underestimated - also PLUSH!
Dust In The Wind does the same damn thing. Yee Gawds, the USA is so litigious!
It is a racket!
Big industry. Like big Pharma, like the prison industrial complex, like the military industrial complex - the USA is mostly (these days) special "interesting" getting paid for "propaganda" - at best.
That is why the Federal government has the Food and Death Administration (FDA). It is BIG business! (this is also corporatism - yet I'm getting off topic - all part of the same disease, however).
Yep and it was inherited from Europeans😂😂😂😉🥰
@@drx1xym154 👍😔
Thank you for reminding me. Dream of the blue turtles got me through college. I was a classically trained flautist way back in 1985-1989. Wore my Steely Dan and Sting out
Growing up in the 60’s we were exposed to a lot of different kinds of music. The idea of music appreciation is gone. In Band we played everything from classic stuff to Jazz, Swing and Pop music. In marching band we played the theme song from the Movie 2001 Space Odyssey,, Herb Albert and the Beatles
Snarky Puppy filled up the Hammersmith Apollo and Gogo Pinguin the Royal Albert Hall
@mark heyne They're talking about music progressions, not lyrics or rhythm.
stretch54 its still rather condescending
Yes. The neighborhood I grew up in had several garage bands. We younger kids would walk up and down the alleys to listen to them. The local church even held a "battle" of the bands concert one summer. This was circa 1979.
I admire people who understand music and know how to play. It’s so cool
interesting the name of the song they are fighting over is called "Shallow" pretty much says it all...
Sure does.
😂
The people behind those lawsuits are absolutely pathetic.
You can’t just write something this simple on a composition level and claim to own any of it, BECAUSE NO ONE DOES!
@@SimonWoodburyForget Excuse me, sir, but your comment infringes on my copyright of the letters R, S, T, L, N, E, and Y when it's functioning as a vowel (Disney Corp. beat me to the consonant form, alas). Please rephrase it.
I'm going to copywrite the word "The".. I'm gunna be rich.
That's where you're absolutely wrong. The problem is exactly that anybody can claim that anything is theirs, pushing others towards extreme legal costs and a lost year (or two)...
@@EverHappyDude That just shows that american copyright law is retarded.
Mighty Pigeon Are they pathetic? They are winning millions of dollars.
A good discussion. You hit the heart of the real cause of the problem. I have said for years that when they quit teaching music appreciation and encouraging students play an instrument it all starting to go down hill. But it's not only music, it's movies, art, literature, across the American popular culture, you can see the same process happening. You were spot on when you used the term "dumbing down." That's exactly what has happened. Keep doing your channel. You're great!
Super interesting, AS ALWAYS! Thank you.
Really? That's what he is sueing for? Really? Very common. Hell I've used that chord progression for some of my own music.LOL🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
Shhhh!!! "They" can hear you...
Well, then you'd better duck and cover, because this dude will probably sue you as well!
Better lawyer up
The main issue with the 4 chord thematic - at least in my opinion - is that people these days rarely ever LISTEN to music. Music is running yes, but they don't listen, there's just a bluetooth speaker in the room or they're wearing one half of an ear plug set while doing something entirely different. And in order to properly digest music in such a way, music has to become simpler and simpler.
Tungsten Zephyr you’re spot on. I was just about to comment this.
I always think of my mother telling me that as a teenager she would put on Moody Blues albums in her room with the lights off and just lay there and listen. To me, that's still the best way to listen to music.
Yes that’s very true. I guess it’s too many other distractions. Music makes you think they don’t like that.
Most kids don't even have the attention span to even listen to a whole song.
Some of us only have hearing remaining in one ear. Ah, I remember back when I could locate the direction of a sound. Good times.
The drum-beat in these pop songs never changes either.
First 3 notes of “Dust in the wind” by Kansas as well
Almost 1Million subs. I found you when you were around 50K. My guess is by tomorrow you'll be there. You're my favorite music CZcamsr by a mile. Keep up the good work Rick!
These lawsuits are getting out of hand.
What do you call 10,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
A good start.
They actually bury lawyers 10 feet under because deep down they're really great people. That'what Saul Goodman said anyway.
DuckTalesWooHoo1987 don’t blame the lawyers, blame the songwriters suing
Also blame the ‘expert witnesses’ who say its copyright infringement in court and confuse the jury into saying it is
Don’t blame the lawyers. Blame the jurors. These cases prove how tone-deaf most people (juries) are. Embarrassing.
What do you call a lawyer neck deep in concrete?
Not enough concrete.
Thanks for a intresting discussion. My son (born 1995 in sweden) grew up in a home where we played alot of different music and he played a lot of video games. Today Im impressed by how broad his taste in music has become. (Same goes for my daughter I must ad). He is more of an listener than a player but he buildt a beautiful electric guitar.
Great videos. I miss guitar, life got in the way. Had a nice Japanese Strat in the early/mid 80's that I just played around with as a teen, first year college 1990 decided to take Spanish Guitar. Showed up with my Strat and the teacher said I wouldn't be able to pass with that guitar. Ended up with an A. He loved the guitar, but still said it was not the best choice for his classes. Later found a 1986? Martin HD28 that had great sound. Played the heck out of it. Now 30+ years later I only vaguely remember scales. lol
I have a 69 Martin ( not beat up like Willie Nelson’s) just collecting dust in the corner. I should pick it up one of these days!
Great insight on the evolution of music. I am a Gen X and growing up - picking up an instrument is a big thing, took up lessons in guitar and it made me appreciate music a lot more. I feel like the new generation should take up music lessons, not Guitar Hero or those fancy music gadgets.. we need real music in 2020 and decades to come!
sohfi hamid love to Gen X
Me: *hears that unique chord progression* Is that "In Bloom" by Nirvana?
Yes ... Yes it is.
Unshaken Salsa I knew the song but didn’t know the name. It was killing me because I wanted to listen to the full song but he was like “guess I don’t need to say the name of this one!”
Sell the kids for food.
I couldn't decide if it was that or Fly by Lenny Kravitz
This guy should play some Dream Theater, there's some different Chord Progressions
As soon as he said that, I figured he was going to play a Nirvana song (not Smells Like Teen Spirit). I figured it would be On a Plain or something.
Amazed at how much I just learned here (and really interesting too). Thx a whole log guys!
You are so right about the need for music education. I took Music Appreciation in the 7th grade. It introduced me me to a wide variety of genres and style. It along with phys-ed were the only classes I enjoyed. It was 1965.
This is almost EVERY Gordon Lightfoot song. Give him the money.
This is like sueing someone for using 'Once upon a time' in a childrens' story book. Ridiculous!
and they lived happily ever after...
Two of my favorite CZcams music dudes in one video. Enjoyed it, gentlemen
I hadn't realized that about current pop music. Nice video.
Video games have some of the best instrumental music though. I can't tell you how many games I've played that the soundtrack blew me away. And it made me want to pick up my guitar and learn them.
A recent example would be Far Cry 5 and Battlefield V. Badass soundtracks!
Halo soundtrack was Amazing! The opera, the metal guitar... Epic!
The funny part is that video game music and film music like to use the same chord progressions as well. I am taking an online course on cinematic music because I want to be a video game composer one day.
Video game music could be a nice gateway to appreciating/ getting into other genres in my honest opinion. As a kid, a little game called ' Parasite Eve ' got me into opera.
Hi from Australia, only just found ya , bloody unreal, you guys really know ya stuff , I’m all in👊🙏✌️
I love your videos. Great topic
I've always found that enjoying more complex music requires a degree of concentration that you have to cultivate. If you love music for its own sake (as opposed to just using it for its various social functions) you're much more likely to want to cultivate that concentration. I think of Mozart's horn concerto number 4, where the famous, catchy bit that everyone knows comes very late and the whole piece up to then is almost like a pr**k-tease, where you keep expecting to hear it and you don't - once you realise that, it's part of the enjoyment.
On the subject of lyrics, a lot of modern pop music sounds to me like it's telling a particular demographic what they want to hear - whether it's 'don't listen to the haters' or 'this is what being a country/ hip hop/ emo fan is all about'.
I now feel about 200 years old.
I totally agree. As a songwriter, I've felt that pressure and have been pushed towards simpler chord progressions in an effort to sound "commercial". Although these harmonically simpler songs may have validity and do "work". I've written many songs that use "simple" changes - relying on the power of the melody in each section to create the variation. Watching this video Rick has encouraged me to once again, follow the road that the great writers of the 20th century paved - Lennon/McCartney, Paul Simon, Stevie Wonder, James Talyor, Joni Mitchell, Elton John, Billy Joel, Becker/Fagen, Sting, and so many more. Popular music has lost its way for sure. Thanks as always for your educated and insightful video on this topic.
A couple of years ago I was drunk and decided to make and try and sell a 1 hour radio show promoting Perth Rock Music. I only made 5 episodes cos it was tons of work for no monetary reward but the whole process was so mind blowing and so much fun. Perth only has a population of less than 2 million and the music I uncovered was outstanding. I searched Bandcamp, Reverberation and Instagram. To uncover what I did from one small city makes one realise how much is out there that is not getting heard. Most people can't be bothered searching so it's all lost in the mire. Keep up the great work Rick, love your passion.
Cheers
Harro 😁 🤘
people like Rick Beato make America what I believe it to still be. It is unfortunate that the BAH (Blame Anger and Hate)
groups are so loud and in your face. And it is so sad to find out that even music isn’t safe. But Beato puts forth a righteous
message and we are so lucky he is who he is and does what he does! We love you!!!