Bad Gear - Yamaha SU10 Sampling Unit - Too LoFi???
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Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Yamaha SU10 Sampling Unit. Is it too lo-fi??? - Hudba
"Look son, this is how Volca Sample looked like when I was your age"
Full midi capability ;)
"less" knobs,but better in every way!
probably faster file transfer too
If this is the volca sample then the Yamaha QR-10 is the old school pocket operator. It has a built in speaker and does sampling. It’s a fun little unit!
Realtime sampling :p
That "Lo-fi af slightly off the grid wonky dystopian" beat is fire!
Thanks!
Definitely on to a winner winner chicken dinner with it 😁 seriously...
No lie! GREAT work on that one!
Prolly best Bad Gear tune I had heard
@@HashMagician I second that notion.
It looks like the kind of thing you'd find in a pawn shop with the wrong cables and a mystery crust on the corners of the screen.
How did you know about the crust? ;)
I've absolutely walked past this answering machine at least ten times. Usually reshuffled amongst the growing stack of used keyboards and yellowed desk lights.
@@AudioPilz he smokes meth too
playing on top of a volcano is a total mood. i'm with björk here.
also i think that lo-fi af slightly off the grid wonky distopian hip hop instrumental is my new favourite musical genre
Björk rules! Thanks!
This is RAD GEAR not bad.
I had one in the late 90's, it was brilliant, and I used to sample old ladies chatting on the bus, and make tunes on the spot in headphones.
It was genuinely great.
That's the way to go!
Ahh, some good ol' granny-lur sampling.
Agreed - I loved this piece in the 90's, and always wanted to own one growing up
Low Fi Granny Grooves are the way
I never figured out sequencing on it. It was sooo convoluted.
New bad gear vid - another not bad friday evening
Happy to hear that, thank God it's Friday
The fact that Björk used it as a sketch pad for ideas when working on Homogenic is enough on it’s own for this to deserve a place in music history.
Absolutely!
It's criminal that this channel doesn't already have a million subs
Thanks! I wholeheartedly agree ;)
I love my SU -10! i bought one in 1999 and i still have it, I have made about 3 albums of music with it, Hip Hop and evil distorted Jungle (all between 99-2003). I used to trigger the samples by hand and record to minidisc, jamming the tune until i had great sections and then chop up sections on the minidisc edtor function I shit you not! that is how i made 3 records! all on batteries ! amazing!
Agreed! One of my favorite compact samplers!!!
Thats sounds cool but where can I find them?
I want to hear those albums! Do you have them up on Bandcamp or anything?
Now, you can't just tell us this without giving us some hope that we'll be able to hear it!
@@HyPeRGeNeRaToR ah shit sorry guys yes i have one on Bandcamp but the other 2 I dont one day !hahah
That Lo-Fi AF Slightly Off The Grid Wonky Dystopian jam was crunchy as chips. Id listen to that on my free time.
Thank you!
Fun fact, the Yamaha SU/QY line of this era is the exact same form factor as Korg's Volca line, so they fit perfectly in a Volca stand along with other Volcas. Only issue is that the ports are on the "top"/back instead of the face, so in some stands, like the official Sequenz Volca stands, you can only place them in the upmost row, as the others block the MIDI and audio jacks.
The Volcas are even a bit bigger (just had to check that out now;)
"Too lo-fi?"
Only makes me like samplers more. The trashier the sound, the better
I understand the approach but for me there's a limit (and it's the Yamaha DJX;)
Yea there's no such thing as 'too lofi'
@@AudioPilz how dare you!?!?!?
All examples were bangers.
Thank you!
@@AudioPilz Always welcome! You stay well mate. Have a nice weekend. :- )
They always are!
This was my first sampler. I kept a backup copy of the sounds on cassette. Not as data, as audio..
That's the way to go. At least it's not possible to lose any more high frequencies ;)
The cassette was better quality.. It must've been like using 24bit.96kHz sampling tech to record an old, on its last mofo legs, 78 record 🤣
Mine too before I sold it to fund the purchase of an MPC2000. I bought another one a few months back. Needless to say, I'm so spoiled with modern tech.🤣
Almost my first sampler ..but I backed up the audio on to my mini disc Walkman 😂
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate the awesome video-editing that goes into these video's? Great stuff again, those tracks are ganz super!
Vielen Dank!
This was my first sampler which I bought at the end of 1997. I remember how liberating it was for me to to finally be able to incorporate sound form the outside world into my music. These were the first truly afforable samplers. Before the mid nineties samplers were horrendously expemsive, even second hand ones.
These units were among the first samplers to use flash RAM so samples stayed in memory after powering the unit down, which was just as well because saving samples over MIDI SDS was very slow and pretty much impossible. I used to just save my sampes as audio files on cassette and sample them back in when I needed them, it was much easier!
You could have used midi dump for backups using a joystick to midi cable and an old PC
My first sampler was a second hand Mirage rack, cost me £400. two seconds of mono 8 bit sampling. How can anyone slag this amazing piece of kit?
@@MegaBadgeman hahah yes! my first Sampler was an Akai S-01. 2.64 seconds of 8 bit mono sample time hahah so i know the score!
How little this show has changed in 2 years. It‘s all here already, the concept, the structure, the execution. Wonderfully timeless, I‘d say!
Thank you so much!!!
Always finds a way to make the bad gear sound gnarly
Thank you!
Pretty sure I saw Bjork using one of these live - think it was a Gilles Peterson curated multi-artist show. I was in the crowd stood next to a woman with a hoodie and backpack. At a point in proceedings she nonchalantly walked to the stage and got on up, revealed her identity and pulled out this little sampler from her backpack, plugged in and knocked out a couple of sparse, glitchy and haunting numbers.
Wow, I would have loved to be there
this thing is honestly my favorite sampler. If there was a modern version with the same workflow, the ability to save and load projects, and about double the sample memory per project, I would be all over that. Model:Samples is the closest thing.
Agreed, we need more of these boxes!
Honestly this thing looks fucking dope. I want one. Yamaha (or some clone maker like Behringer) should remake this with the same interface and updated internals. Fix a few of the limitations and re-release it
Yeah, many nice features most contemporary samplers are missing
Ho yeah, i buy it immediately!
"only" 10k views and over 500 comments. That's how you know your content absolutely slaps. CZcams would be a much shittier place without you, and I appreciate the time you take to make this dope content. Thank you.
Thank you so much!
Great video! This was my first sampler. I didn't care much about sound quality at the time, I was recording on a cassette 4-track. There was a record store in my area that was getting rid of all their vinyl stock, 5 for 1 dollar and I bought so much just cheesy random stuff, specifically for sampling. I had so much fun. I'll always love this sampler.
Thanks! Vinyl session FTW
I remember the Bjork video where she demonstrated it. A classic Bjork moment was here interview with the she opened up a CRT tv.
Always loved her interviews!
Was this the interview in which she sampled the sea and pitched it to a hihat?
OOOH! The "biting the bullet" thing with "I married a strange person" was awesome. Love that movie!
Bill Plympton - legend!
One of the best parts about it is that you can use it to edit samples (setting loop points accurately is an absolute JOY on this thing) and then SYSEX transfer them to old sample-capable workstations like the SY85.
Wow, didn't know that! Great!!!
@@AudioPilz I spent best part of a week sampling and transferring bits from an MC-303, RM1X and EMX-1 over to my 85. Was traumatising, but entirely worth it.
The SU is also a great as a drum expander for the QY70..... 😅
Yeah it was designed to sit on an sy85
@@nickmonk634 the case is just a reworked RY8 so it seems unlikely the format was specifically designed for the SY. It was definitely aimed at SY owners (there was even an ad that said something about it being the 'ultimate upgrade for the SY85/99') but they just happened to have that case that would fit on the blank areas nicely.
@@nickmonk634 perhaps but it’s blue casing was more intended to be a companion to the CS1x
"This was crunchy as chips!"
Indeed!
OK, that Y2K Electronica jam was a banger!
Thank you!
Straight up the best editing on any music gear channel by far!!!
Thank you!!!
That non-backlit screen looks like it'd be a ton of fun at a gig. Along with a box of floppies the size of a Juno
That is definitely a challenge
Why you wearing that little light strapped to your forehead?
Cuz, reasons!
I feel like your editing is getting better and better and better. Always a pleasure to be reminded that it´s friday
Thank you!!!
So sick! The music you made on this simple box is nothing short of highly accomplished and awesome 😎👍
Thank you so much!
The Burt Kreischer reference blew my mind
THE MACHINE!!!
This is what I do for every new Bad Gear episode: 1) find out what item he’s ridiculing; 2) check my ebay purchase history to (more often than not) find out I bought said item years ago for cheep; 3) search basement for it 😂
AudioPilz wants to know your location ;)
I got a wersi bass synthesizer in the basement, the only synth with an haweii button feature
Great series, great videos as always!
Thanks!
Your music examples are amazing !
Thank you!
Great stuff! I think this is the first time a Bad Gear episode made me actually want the gear that was featured! But damn those prices already went up...
Really? I was too afraid to check it out
This guy is absolutely one of my favorite personalities on CZcams.
Thank you!!!
I love watching your reviews the way its put together is interesting
Thank you so much!!!
Every time I see a new Bad Gear episode in my feed my day is made.
Happy to hear that!
I see that RNC in every video, it’s like a mop bucket for sound.
It's sooooooooooo tight!
@@AudioPilz I read that in your beautiful accent !
Fridays in 2019: gonna get sweaty in da club. Fridays 2021: watch bad gear in da tub.
We know what's healthier ;)
so nice to see this video... i used that sampler for a great number of years and still currently own one that I use together with my MPC 2500
Thank you!!!
that techno beat goes deep
Thanks! Damn, I miss loud PA systems
The Yamaha SU200 is also worth a look - basically a slightly improved SU10 (more effects, more sampling time, ability to save to card, shockingly good MIDI implementation). The Zoom SST-224 is a beefed up SU10 on the audio front but unfortunately its MIDI implementation is absolute pants (have got to program everything via step sequencer when synching externally, if you want to play live you've got monophony and have got to wait a second before playing another sample due to weird release programming).
Thanks for the input!
Just starting to get into recording. So glad I found this channel!
Thanks! Stick around!
Damn, I was feeling all three of your tunes this episode. Great work.
Happy to hear that, thanks!
My first sampler ❤
Made a whole album with this bad boy and an Atari ST.
Good times 😊
First love is the deepest!
Back when making an album was a big undertaking 👍
Kid Koala used at least three of them at a concert I’ve been. One setup with wireless mic transmitter to use it in the crowd.
This guy really knows his stuff
Your songs at the end of vids are all great!!!
Thank you!!!
This was my first ever sampler owned! This video makes me want to dig it out from whatever closet I have it in. I fit the demo you mentioned, was looking to begin making beats, but later moved on to the MPC2000xl which I still use to this day. I never made an entire beat in this thing (that I remember). I used it as my sampler and played stuff along with the drums from an SR-16 Drum Machine and recorded to a Tascam 424 4-Track tape machine. I was definitely a product of my enviornment back in the late 90's, but I figured it out. Thanks for bringing some light to this piece, lots of great memories here for me.
That goddamned vocoder shout-out is the most ridiculous synth-nerdiest thing ever. It's the coolest Patreon perk I have seen.
Happy to hear that! Currently working on a few things to make it even more spectacular
This needs a part B with the SU200, where they corrected all the Su10 limits while introducing 10 more
Yeah, just looked that one up. They have become quit costly
Not to forget the su700 as part C/3
Awesome video as usual! I especially love that hip hop song at the end, that was really cool! :D
Thank you!
What a great episode! & the perfect memejam to accompany it, too!
Thank you!
This sampler is the most amazing phrase samper for its time
I still have the Sample CD sound library
Absolutely! Unfortunately, mine came without the CDs
I had the SU200 and the SU700 (love the floppy drive🤣)
Nice!!!
i love this show! never miss an episode
Thank you so much!
Your tunes keep getting better and this unit sounds amazingly lofi, I wish you could get that sample coloration as a plugin.
Thanks! Lo-fi plugs never really tickled my fancy, it doesn't seem to do the same thing
Tal dac
This is still my favorite piece of gear. I also have the Su 200 it’s bigger brother and I can’t say enough good things about it. I am in Germany if you wanna borrow it.
Thanks for the offer!
Dammmn, that dystopian Hip-Hop track was great! Could you upload a full version?
Thanks! There's a longer version on Patreon, let's see if I can find the time to make a full track
I love when AudioPilz talks about mashing
haha love the channel homedawg
Thank you!
Never even heard of this thing. Another great one!
Thanks! That one is really nice!
i need more 'Lo-fi af slightly off the grid wonky dystopian' beats
Thanks! That machine is such a lofi beat monster!!!
A full album please
Kid Koala is definitely a big fan of these as I'm sure are other turntablists. There's something oddly endearing about this, the DJ-70 and other scratch-DJ inspired DJ samplers.
Yeah, Kid Koala even had one on a wireless for stage diving
I saw Kid Koala perform the 2bit blues with SU10 in hand... freakin awesome. That man is a genius.
I love your channel, thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Nice one! Good music yet again.
Thank you!
It was ahead of its time in a cooky way. I have one and it sounds uniquely Lo-Fi. After you get over its quirks, it's a unique piece of gear. Still wished it had a real sequencer - but hey at least you get to record all you F%$#!-up mistakes in high resolution! If Yamaha updated this baby it would be a winner. Live sampling, sequencing, memory expansion, lit screen, battery-powered, effects and filters, and a small synth engine.
Absolutely! Total Volca killer!
Damn I literally just picked one of these up the other week! It's a cool little device, but yeah, the lack of ability to tune individual samples or a resample function does make it a lot less versatile than it otherwise could've been (sequencing and quantisation would've been nice, but that seems to be easily worked around thanks to MIDI). I'm likely going to use mine to sketch out rough beats to flesh out on something more capable, like my Zoom Sampletrak (which is something that would be cool to see a video on in the future).
Also, you should definitely check out the Alesis AirFX! I picked one of those up ages back and it's one of the stranger pieces of gear I've seen.
Damn, I had an AirFX for years but sold it some time ago
AirFX RULES!!!
My Friday routine: Close laptop, pour wine, go to studio and watch AudioPlz weekly upload! Another great vid. This little machine passed me by (I was probably too immersed in Cubase VST or something) but it's very cool. Superb jams as ever.
Thank you! And thank God it's Friday!
@@AudioPilz amen to that!
So I lay around and watch these after work. And laugh hard at all the silly imagery.
Then marvel at the musical lemonade from the lemons.
Which eventually motivates me to do *something* with all the toys in the den. Thanks, and have a good weekend.
Happy to hear that! Thanks!
Made me 1st tune using one of these back in the day
That one was Indie production tools gold back then!
@@AudioPilz Yeah we loved it. Love the video too btw, the tracks are nice.
dude the lofi af song is FIRE
Thank you!
Hahaha that 'the machine' joke caught me off guard. Great channel, been binging your videos like crazy. I'm entertaining getting my 18-year old hands on one of these and a Novation Bass Station rack for my humble little studio. Cheers!
Happy to hear that. Thanks!
Yo!!!!! This was an awesome kickass video!!!!! Love it!!!!!!!
Thank you!
Everybody knows it's pronounced "Autechre". As in, "Autechre".
Great vid as always. Stop making me pine for gear I have absolutely no business accumulating!
Thanks! I pronounce it "Autechre"
SU10 aged well, next week QY10? Great show
Thanks! Got a QY10 here but it is too much of a PITA even for me
I had one of there in 1998 and loved it. Just today at work(I work for a music gear shop), we were organizing stuff and I found an SU-10 that’s literally been sitting behind me for 6 months without my knowledge. Looks like I’m getting reunited with the beast!
Nice find!
the demo at 5:13 is incredibly good, great work !
Thank you! Looking forward to when the clubs open again!
The cartoon guy swallowing the cheese burger at 3:26 is from a cartoon movie that should be more well known. It's called "I Married a Strange Person" and it's the weirdest shit you will ever see in your life. I should mention it was made by Bill Plympton too
Love Bill Plympton. Didn't he get an Oscar?
@@AudioPilz Academy award nominated for animated short, Your Face and recently made a Simpsons intro.
Flo, your patreon people should get a heads-up a few days before do they can look for these things on eBay before your show makes them go through the roof!🙂❤️
They actually do ;)
I had one of these in the late 90s and used it as a one shot sampler to fire off air horns during DJ gigs. It was quite fun!
Perfect sampler for that!!!
Never saw this one before. Looks and sounds very cool! Also, your hip hop song was great!
Thank you! Nice machine!
Track at 5:13 is straight fire!!!
TECHNO!!!
I actually wouldn’t mind replacing my volca sample with this!
Why not use both? 😈
I use both!
I got one of these on eBay for a very good price, I bought it mainly because I really wanted one in the 90s! I Amazed at the stuff you've done with it, I'm going to have to have another go on mine :)
Thanks! Highly recommended!
I knew nothing about the SU10 and have been using an SU700 for 20 years, as always , great video
Thanks!
ok gonna throw it out there. make an album with your "demo" tracks, name it "Bad Gear", release it everywhere. Profit!
I thought about selling it as analog cassettes and VHS only. Bigger markups!
@@AudioPilz Your humor is dated and obsolete ;)
Zum LoFi HipHop-Track: Bin extrem beeindruckt! 👍🏻
Besten Dank!
This might be my favorite episode so far. The beats slap especially hard in this one.
Thank you!
Ok how do everyone yes another quality episode smashing it as usual
Thanks!
Thank you for this, I have the SU20. Its the same for our use im 2k21. Lofi AF. No sequencer, cringe. I use it mostly like effect, to make lofi harsh sounds. i love to make feedback loop out of it, i mostly use my ARQ96 for sampling now but this weirdo adds some 90s character, it can timestretch in like 16bits and all other shits. i dont want to sell it right now but thanks to your videoi can charge much more now, eventually.
You're welcome! ;)
Its a bit crappy on its own but as a lofi sampler i like a lot the crunch that adds
True, crunch for days!
Serious beats inspired you this old machine man!
Thanks!
That 1 machine techno jam was legendary
Thank you!
Pair this with a Yamaha RY-8, Yamaha Qy-10 and a can of Surge soda for maximum 90s damage!
Maybe add some smoking in pubs ;)
Give this guy a perceived piece of crap and he makes gold.
Thanks! Crap instruments always welcome!
Bad Gear Friday!!!!Friday happiness complete! Man that low af jam was awesome!
Thank you!
Almost everything you feature for your bad gear vids winds up on my wishlist, haha.
Bad Gear G.A.S. is a thing ;)
@@AudioPilz I already had a Korg DDM-110 but I also got a Casio Trackformer. G.A.S. is a dangerous thing.
You missed the opportunity to make "lo-fi hip hop to relax/study to" in authentics 90s way.
Did this in the Roland JX305 episode ;)