Discovering A Hidden Part Of The Old F1 Hockenheimring
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
- In this new 'Forgotten Tracks' series we explore the old Hockenheimring circuit where F1 drivers used to race at over 200mph within the German forests. We manage to find a piece of history from the old track and also have a blast around the current circuit in an Aston Martin Vantage.
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Kimi is the only current F1 driver who has raced there :P
The old track or just overall
Old, he started in 2001
Purple Nakazati they used the old track in the very early 2000s, wow
@@chubski2514 yeah till 2002
Purple Nakazati oh crap
The old banking at Monza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reims in France the old pit lane is still there!
Brooklands!!!!!!!
This series could be immense
mareczek cukiereczek yeah, go on f1 CZcams channel and you can see will Buxton drive through France looking at all France Grand Prix tracks. Really interesting watch would recommend it
Also for German fans the Nordschleife would be really interesting
And I already visit all circuits called in this trheat.
Here's the Monza banking czcams.com/video/KuB0ciS_HW4/video.html
mareczek cukiereczek I think you mean Rouen-les-Essarts ;) Check this czcams.com/video/2wpMCcW4ULo/video.html
Feel like I’m watching top gear! Love it!!!
Nicholas Cowhie this is what i was thinking. Tbf matt would probably do a better job than the presenters on it now😂
@@a_wozza_7365 but what about Clarkson Hammond and May what about those presenters?
Kaarel Takeba The current presenters, not the ones from three years ago.
@@jordantraenkner1883 current ones are shit tbh
I wonder what's left of the Österreichring today, and the Turkish GP.
Red Bull Ring
He meant "true" Red Bull Ring, before reworks :) Turkish GP (don't know exact name) circuit still exists, doesn't it?
Istanbul Park is still alive. We had WRX back in 2014 and 2015
The Istanbul Park's inbetween sections are mostly used by new owner İntercity(a car rental company) as an inventory space for all the cars they have. The track itself is still servicable and does host Sunday races from time to time.
@@222000seb ok, thx for info guys
Jim Clark - still the greatest F1 driver of all time. Even Senna looked up to him as his idol. RIP
Never heard of Schumacher??
@@364doubleplay Schumacher wouldn't have survived 3 minutes in the cars Clark drove, just like most other drivers!
@@jmgaming6148 how do u know?
JMGaming But Clark would never have been able to drive any of the modern cars to as high a standard as any of the newer generation drivers. The sport evolves, and as do athletes. Drivers nowadays are far better than the ones who drove back in the 60s. Let's not forget that most of Clark's competition were basically old men who took up driving as a hobby in their 20s.
@@MashiatCOD99 that's why I'd say there is no "all-time best driver", because time changes. It would make more sense to rate drivers in the centuries they raced in, like "the best in the 50's, 60's" etc. For me: the best in the 50's would be Fangio, in the 60's it was Clark.
For the next track you need a drone to view the old track
Or if you can use GOOLE MAPS. It shows the old track and the Jim Clark Memorial.
I'm not sure but Drones are usually forbidden around tracks.
I can’t wait for this series to continue. Brooklands and the ones in France that Will Buxton drove by need doing
Dave Smith Reims*
the probleme is that Reims has been destroyed
BlackAres look on google, the old pit lane and grandstand is still there. Watch the video on F1 CZcams channel
how do i tell you that i live in Remis ??
BlackAres my bad.
Matt I totally get it, you have driven thousands of laps around that track virtually (like me) and now you get to do it for real, in a supercar, emotional... glad you are living the dream and i get to live it through you, so thanks i appreciate it.
I remember the old Hockenheim Ring, especially Mika Hakkinen describing the counterpoint of the stadium section that felt like a football game, followed by the long straights that make you think you're the loneliest man in the world(ah, those Finns ^^ ) and then the breaking form 300+km/h to something around 60 where you have a feeling that the car would just roll over - to the detail that the breaking force would be so heavy that a drop of eye fluid could fly out of your eye to the inside of the visor ... ah good memories. Thanks for that.
also, maybe next time bring a drone? :)
Its like watching a kid in a candy store. Beautiful.
Production and camera work of this is awesome guys! Keep it up!
I agree, definitely see some influence from Top Gear. Looks great!
There's also a marker for Clark at the spot he died, but it's hard to find.
April Kurtz are there any pictures of it?
@@jamesburn8011 I've seen pictures of it, but I can't recall where. It's probably in Google images. It's a small stone cross between 2 shrubby trees. Sorry I can't be of more help.
April Kurtz thanks.
True, that memorial is not the exact spot where he had a crash. There is an kind of grave stone at the real location
Thats true. Its a small stone with flowers between 2 trees in the Woods, where the old track was. The New Memorial is the old one. It just changed the location after the circuit was redesigned. And at the old place, the place he died, there is a new, small stone. There are some Videos here in CZcams where people searched and found it. czcams.com/video/DmsAT5qcSIA/video.html Its german, but at 2:30 you can see the original place. its still there! Hes also talking in german that they pute the Memorial to the new location, and after that created the small stone on the original place he died.
If I could go back in time, I’d definitely go see a race at the old Hockenheim track and sit in the forest section. It’s absolutely amazing that an F1 track raced through a forest! Shame they had to change it, though.
Why weren't you considered when Top Gear went out of presenters?
The work you do and the camera-production work is amazing.
Keep up, Matthew!
idk i like their videos but tbh they never stand in terms of cinematography/camera movements nor editing. And the lack of drone shots in this film is really a shame...
It’s annoys me how close everything is together in Europe. 7 hours from the UK to Hockenheim??? It takes 8 hours (without traffic) for me to drive from Long Island to Buffalo, and that’s just across New York State!
Why would that be annoying? Surely its nice to have some things that are close together?
I don’t think he meant it in a bad way. Maybe in an inconvenient way. Major cities are spread out from one another in US.
glen kennedy Was meant in a joking manner. Annoying how far things are apart in the US compared to Europe
No worries. Just couldn’t figure out why having things close would be annoying. Thanks.
Because America is huge. Almost as big as the main part of Europe
Can't wait to see the same video for Spa !
Great job guys, keep going 🙂
This is NOT how you drive around roundabouts in Germany 😉✌🏼 3:35
Nothing wrong doing some shortcut
my balls went into my body, when i saw it :-D
Matt, the master of corner cutting 😂
This video was amazing! I would love to see you guys explore more defunct tracks in the future!
I also love how Matt was grinning like a little kid while Rory was scared to death while you guys were driving the track.
RIP Jim Clark and Bert Hawthorne
Nice! Went several times for a jopgging lap at the old Hockenheim circuit. Also to mention: What is shown in the video is only the officail Jim Clark Memorial. The real one (the sport where the accident occured) is only accesable by foot deep in the woods, where is a very tiny second memorial.
Spain has also got old circuits around Catalonia in the northwest. An oval, Sitges circuit, and two city circuits in Barcelona, Pedralbes Circuit and Montjuic Circuit
Deaths like Jim Clarke is probably a reason why current F1 drivers rarely do another races outside of F1 because Jim died while doing a F2 race.
Tuff Ed Boi F2
@@HojozVideos thanks
Tuff Ed Boi that doesn’t make any sense.
Amazing! Please go to the old Spa.
My question is why did they have to destroy the rest of the old track? Imagine if Nurburgring destroyed the Nordschleife when they built the GP circuit.
Tuff Ed Boi I believe it's something due to forest being protected and new track involved cutting down some forest so they had to make up for it by planting more trees and so the old track had to go
There was always something very special about Hockenheim as a circuit. Loved how it used to mix up the championship with the makers that were suited to it and used to gravitate to driving it on the first PC games when I was a young man. One day I will visit there myself to pay my own personal tribute to this place.
A lovely, nostalgic look at a classic track. I hope this becomes a semi-regular feature. Thanks for posting from an old-timer, whose first Grand-Prix was Jackie Stewart winning in Holland at Zandvoort.
What about the Österreichring guys? I love this format and seeing my home track and the history portrayed by you guys would be amazing
Quality, quality content! The research, the presentation and the editing are all great! Please go on with this series for a long time!
Next up: Sudschleife!
Please haha!
No,Nordschleife, please.
Südschleife is OK.
There are some parts of it left.
I remember playing this version of the circuit on F1 Career Challenge on the PS2. Thought it was way more fun than the current version!
Please bring the series back!
I'd love for you guys to visit spa
I Remember the old ring and loved it and wish it was still there Loving this series cannot wait to see the tracks you go too next
Instant like 👍🏻 my grandpa used to fly his plane over the old “Ostkurve” during the late 60’s and early 70’s while the f1 races where going on. I’ve unfortunately been born much later but I’ve first been to the track when I was 3, and I’ve been there every year since. I really love this track dearly. Thanks for this video and exploring the old parts as well!
Do Imola. A fantastic old circuit that was a challenge to the drivers. It was also the scene of one of the most epic battles between Michael Schumacher and Fernando Alonso. Not to mention the fact that it took 2 racing drivers in one weekend and threatened to take a third.
Go to the old spa francochamp circuit
So cool that you made a video of the Hockenheimring which is my hometown! Living in Hockenheim and not noticing you were there... sad... BUT love how you like and feel the emotion of the track and history which is linked to the racetrack and the town. Hope you had a great time here.
I have to say Matt the reason I like your show so much is because of your passion for the sport For Your Love of its history and for its great sacrifice of those men who lost their lives trying to prove how fast they were I think it's really cool
Matt, love your genuine enthusiasm and excitement in this series of videos. Thank you wtf1 for making them.
I went to the 1981 German GP and sat on the Ostkurve. It was a long walk from the stadium and it was a baking hot day. But there was at truck full of cold beer when we got there. And a sausage stall. And out on the track were legends such as Villeneuve, Pironi, Reutemann, Jones, Laffite and more.
Hope you guys do more of these they are so interesting!
Loved this video. I was a the Grand Prix here this summer so seeing some of the history is great. Please do more of this series. Would love to see more of the old Monza track.
I attended the 1981 German GP, part of my "'81 World Racing Circus Tour" That was the finale. LeMans, Jarama, Snetterton, Brands Hatch, Silverstone, Spa, Hockenheim. Piquet bested Jones and the two Renaults. Spent most of the race at the Ost Kurve.
The only F1 race I ever attended was the German Grand Prix of 1988 at Hockenheim. I was young naive US GI who hadn't done any research before setting out for the race and had no idea what a ticket would cost. I arrived and found that if I wanted to have any gas-money to get home, the Ostkurve was the only ticket I could afford. I bought the ticket and set off on the long hike through the woods. Getting out to the 'Kurve was an interesting journey, hiking along with many other race-fans, all of us full of excitement and anticipation! We could hear the PA system through the trees as it played music and various announcements.
Finally, I found myself out at the sandy slope of the Ostkurve where I was a little dismayed to learn that there were no seats. No matter, and I soon appreciated being able to walk around and see things from different angles- especially since I had a camera with me! It rained at one point and I made a hat out of a plastic bag to at least keep my head dry. The race itself was surreal. I was used to watching F1 on TV, where you see everything. For this race, I heard the PA announcer call the important parts of the action, heard roaring engines in the distance, and then every now and then the cars would flash by in front of me. The anticipation was crazy that first time I heard them coming down the straight, waiting for my first glance at real, in-person F1 cars in action, driven by men I'd only seen on TV. It was truly a great experience!
And I still treasure the pictures I took that day. Most are a little poorly-exposed, not professional-perfect by any means, but the capture things like one of the Lotus-Fords (Piquet?) having a little bump in the chicane, Reigning world champ Alain Prost going into the dirt and making the longest rooster-tail I've ever seen as he gave it the beans to get back on-pavement, an 'analog selfie' I took by aiming my 35mm at myself to get a shot of my bag-hat (actually came out pretty good!), and probably my favourite, a shot of three rain-soaked British fans wrapped in a big Union Flag, upon which they'd stitched crudely-cut white letters that spelled out MANSELL GIVES PIQUET THE HUMP. You can see the jubilation and excitement on their faces- they were clearly just happy to be there, a feeling I completely shared. I wonder where those guys are today.
And so today when I see the pictures of the Ostkurve being reclaimed by nature, I feel a certain sadness, and I want to go there and just sit on the sandy slope and squint my ears just right to hear the ghosts of the past, maybe even walk down onto where the tarmac was and imagine them screaming past me.
Oval Monza and historic Spa would be great. I really like historic Le Mans Circuit and historic Silverstone but they are all messed up now.
I would welcome you if you do a Istanbul Park video and don’t forget to dm me :D
What an amazing, lovely video. Your passion is really touching!
Great content! Loved every second of it
100% this needs to be a long lasting series. Amazing work.
I really wish they just updated the original track to fit what the FIA wanted. the Original Hockenheimring was amazing. at least we still get the original stadium section. A few years ago I actually managed to sneak onto the track's grand stand at the start finish line. Hockenheim, tho not as good as the original layout, will always be one of my favorite tracks.
This video made me cry , I m 18 I m a race engineering for my formula student team , I m just 18 n I haven't seen the old tracks n how dangerous and bravely sport was f1 , by watching this I feel the rush n proud to be a racer n hopeing that in the coming future I will be there chasing my goals , n my favorite Track is spa francorchamps
Great history lesson, thanks :)
Wouldn´t mind more of this.
So I'm remarkably stoned right now so bear with me.
I'm an American and I'm completely and utterly new to F1. Started first paying attention part way through the 2019 season and Hockenheim was the first time I caught the entire race weekend. (The first race I ever saw was Baku 2018 where Verstappen and Ricciardo crashed into each other but I didn't actually decide to start watching until Hockenheim the next year. There's a story behind why I watched Baku but that's for another time.) When Friday practice was over, fairly early in the morning here in the US, I went out and bought F1 2019 and a racing wheel and jumped in and immediately played a 100% race at Hockenheim to become familiar with the track for the weekend. Creating a new tradition I plan to carry through the rest of my time watching F1. The reason I mentioned I was stoned was that this made me a little emotional. Particularly the moments you were actually driving on track. I imagined myself there driving on what is one of my favorite tracks if only for the reason that it was my first full race weekend. I'm sure many people have much deeper ties to their own favorites but this one got to me a little, probably with the assistance of my drugs. Lol. A bit silly to be emotional over a sport I haven't even seen a full season of but that's just who I am.
Superb, glad I stumbled to this channel
Valencia Street Circuit, the story behind the circuit's fallout is amazing.
Roy Hesketh race track in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa. The track was abandoned, then rebuilt about ten years ago and is now mostly a place where the residents in the area jog and walk their dogs. Top quality tarmac though!
A pleasure to watch this video! Thanks a lot
Awesome video!! Great stuff! Keep up the good work! :D
Dude your doing a great job, keep up bringing those amazing good video's!!! Gimme more!!!
Wow this series will be like abandoned circuits of the past, but with actual live commentary. Can't wait!
Now this is my kind of series, more of this please!
Some suggestions: Reims, North Wilkesboro Speedway, 14km Spa, Valencia Street Circuit
Great video as always!
Sad but special video...Still it´s "shocking" too see the how the old section of the track looks like even though the change didn´t happen that long ago.. Top job WTF1 :)
The Jim Clarke memorial is actually placed right in the middle of the road... where the road was that is...
Also the tour guide was wrong. The Senna chicane was located on the current track. Roughly at the end of the strip of red run-off on the outside kerbing after the hairpin, that's about where the entry into the Senna chicane was... There is of course absolutely nothing left to suggest it was there though.
As always....a great, entertaining video ....thank you!!!
You also should've visited the corner in the west directly located in Hockenheim.
But still, great vid!
Nice series, continue please!
Please, please, please, please, please more of this series! Please!
This series is going to be mega!!
I love the Hockenheim track it has it all.
you should bring this series back
Ikr why do they only have 2 vids of this series
interesting way of involving old tracks. good work!
Great series. Looking forward to seeing the Masta kink on the old Spa circuit!
This was such a good video. Onya wtf1. Love it
Brooklands, brands hatch , donnington, the old Austrian circuit. Oh so many and you could still do current tracks with forgotten sections
From xMattyG1 to this, you impressed me and impress me every video man :) Try to visit old Spa-Francorchamps (my local circuit, I dont know if you know it.. I really like it ! Hahaha) The old track is of course still alive and there is so much things to do on this sweety track
Amazing video!!
love stuff like this
Great idea. Great execution. I loved the video.
This is honestly one of the biggest things on my bucket list is to travel around to current and abandoned tracks and explore the history and importance of each track.
Incredible vid guys me emotional!!👌👌
There is actually another Jim Clark Memorial in the woods (where the original memorial was, before the makeover), there is still a memorialplate on the ground. This one was moved out to the new track, so people wouldn't have to go into the forest.
40 seconds in and I already want more of this type stuff!!!!
We need another track like this
Please turn this into a serie where you explore tracks that used to be in F1 and now They are forgotten like Estoril, dijon-prenois, The old spa francochamps i dont know. Love your channel
Hey WTF1 one of your best videos yet! Enjoy it everyday Matt!
Did they really need to rip up the old track why could they not have just kept it but add the new layout.
Mythbuster3808 The original plan was to widen the old track a bit. However that turned out to be impossible because of some nature preservation laws and ownerships of parts of the forest around the track. It was Tilke who wanted to keep the old layout. So they abandoned that Plan and came up with that expensive new layout. They still had to cut down a huge amount of trees (40 hectares iirc) , and to compensate that they had to tear down and reforest the old section.
Best Channel! Thank you so much
Best Channel... Next to Chainbear 🙂
The Nordschleife (altough it's still active), Monza, AVUS in Berlin.. There's so much potential for this series. Spa was also a huge track way back, that would be so great
I remember watching Scott Russell & Doug Polen race there in world Superbike. Also Mick Dohan, Wayne Raney, & Kevin Schwantz race 500 GP there.
I've also driven the old circuit in a couple sims. I hated being passed on the very long streights if I was in a car w/ lower top speed (which i generally prefer overal) w/ absolutely nothing I could do about it. So frustrating. The modern track is also high speed but not nearly as bad as the old track w/ that, at least now you can stay close, in the draft if you get a good drive off the previous corner.
Would love to see more of this series. Maybe even come and see the Adelaide street circuit in Australia.
this is bloody amazing
This series could be epic keep it up
I love it 😍 good work guys 👍🏻
Old Hockenheim was one of my favourite track with Imola. Sad that they change it but glad that the forest is reclaming it.
Dale Earnhardt Jr. does this same thing in America called “Lost Speedways” where they visit old abandoned NASCAR tracks. This is an awesome idea and very cool! Make more make more!
The end minutes got right me right in the feels
This was a really interesting video! WOW
This was amazing!!!
one of the best series ever
Would love if u go to more old f1 or the circuits which are forgotten would be nice like Monza's banking and stuff
I didn't expect the "track" looking like this. I actually thought they keept it intact for other races or the public like the Nordschleife. Interesting and nice to see the made biotopes and room for wildlife instead.