Full Audio, Referee Mic’d Up: San Ysidro at Eastlake, 2/6/16
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- čas přidán 8. 02. 2016
- 23-year referee Quentin Norman is mic’d up for this game as you go behind the scenes of what a referee does at a game.
Start with the pre-game meeting with the referee team and captain’s meeting.
Listen as the referee nearly admits that he might have made the wrong call, asks which defender wants credit for the foul and the banter between the coaches and referee.
The game itself was a track meet at times prompting the referee to comment that they won’t have to worry about the shot clock tonight.
The game came down to the last shot.
San Ysidro, 10+ points
Brandon Edwards, 17 points
Francisco Zazueta, 12 points
Karlton Perry, 11 points
Reuben Lumaban, 10 points
Eastlake, 10+ points
Josh Olave, 15 points
Jarrett Isaacson, 11 points
Brian Leonhardt, 10 points
Izale Readen, 10 points
San Ysidro won 74-71
San Ysidro (San Diego, CA) at Eastlake (Chula Vista, CA)
Saturday, February 6, 2016 - Sport
at !5:00 he asks both players " who wants it? You both got him" haha
Respect, knowledge, integity and discretion seem to be part of both guys make up. A treat officiating with an individuals that allow the game to play itself without being whistle happy.
Fantastic team work on behalf of the officials! 👏 I took a away a number of best practices I’ll be implementing throughout my current and future game officiating. 🏀👍
Dang I would love to work a game or two with this guy. Seems like a great partner and would be really fun to ref with
Where I referee there’s a couple guys everyone wants to officiate with because not only are they excellent referees but they’re always full of support, advice, and constructive criticism
Goodness haven’t seen this guy in forever. Such a great guy when I worked in San Diego
I like how he immediately identifies the shooter verbally on fouls. Far too often the shooter is not identified by the calling official and that can lead to issues if a team is trying to be sneaky. Overall a very proactive and good official. Mechanics weren't always perfect but he managed that game very nicely.
he is better than most NBA guys I see, good official I did it 20 years, old school no lanyard, I use to work with and old timer who use to shoot it out his mouth and catch it one hand it was awesome.
It is wise to use a lanyard.
Great video! This is my first year for basketball. Tremendous help!
How has it gone so far? I'm just starting this year.
The official is really engaged and did a great job. Enjoyed watching it. Kids were ballin out. Both number fives on each team.
Good calls at 13:35 and 16:10 (it was a hold).
Missed the foul calls at 12:56 (should have been called a foul on number 22 with the body contact) and a missed "and one" at 16:04.
Very good video. About to start my first year officiating rec ball and this video was very helpful. Maybe middle school ball next year.
Great job on both sides my IHSA he taught me a lot now I am going in footsteps as high school official
If all officials at all levels treated it like this guy..........the world would be a better place.
amen
His attitude is tremendous
I loved refs like that. They would talk and joke. But also warn you. The games just flowed better and it was fun.
Talked a lot. Tried to talk them out of fouls and violations. Retired after 30 years.
A 2 man crew with a shot clock is a travesty
You would be a top panel official in our board
Quentin, please come to Orlando. I'd work with you any day!
Lol 😆 are we at a disco 🤣
Remind me of my grandfather walter radwonski was IL high school official
My buddy sent me this and told me this gotta be Doug stanhope brothers, I agree lmao
"Time out! Black coach!" lol...
I get the distinct impression Cam could do with a little less input.
Cam didn't call any plays in the whole game
@@harveywest8000 at least
or at least not in the 22 minutes we see here?
overall a good official
Q is an awesome guy in real life.
On a foul shot, the trail official should be on the opposite side of the table.
How sure are you about that? This is 2-man.
@@jordanissport 100%
2-man mechanics. The lead who is administering the free throws goes opposite table. Trail (official who called the fouls) stays table side.
@@zgaviation6481 IAABO and NFHS, Two Person mechanics - trail is opposite the table.
@@Scratch1733 Just checked the book..yes, that is correct, although nobody (and I mean nobody) in my area (3 different associations) does it that way.
Q: " I was Cabbage Patch!"
Depending on when this video was posted we use 2 hands on fouls on players with numbers starting at 10 starts with the right hand first
You are allowed to not have a lanyard nor a smitty to attach to whistle????
I've never seen it required anywhere
When did Dustin Hoffman start reffing?
Constructive Criticism:
1Q: Talking to the cheerleaders on the side of the court with your back to ALL the action while the ball is in play? Your job is to call the game, not to worry about whether the cheerleaders are aware they can come onto the floor between quarters. Officials don’t need to be talking to the cheerleaders at all; especially at the high school level.
Also early in the game, telling player, “Don’t run through screens like that!” Based on your words, that was a foul, but you didn’t call it.
Between quarters, loudly, and with big gestures, telling your partner on how he can improve. You’re making him look inferior, which he is not. He’s doing fine. Stop big-dogging and give him the respect he deserves. Don’t know if you’re doing it for the camera, but whatever the reason, stop it.
2Q: Calling a foul and then asking two players which one wants the foul, because you got them both. The operative words here are YOU GOT THEM. So YOU make the call who gets the foul. If one player is their best player and he actually deserves the foul, but is in foul trouble, you unfairly influenced the game by allowing the star player to get out of a foul that he committed. You blow the whistle. You make the call. That’s YOUR job. Players should NEVER get to decide who gets the foul.
Q3: You’re the trail way back at mid court and you call a foul all the across court on a play right in front of the lead. You’re reaching to make that call. Stay in your area.
Late in the game: again talking to and flirting with cheerleaders. Again...WHILE THE BALL IS IN PLAY. Those are high school girls. I understand this is California, but leave the girls alone and call the game. And stop with the little dance moves; it’s unprofessional.
4Q: Counting aloud on a closely guarded player? You don’t count aloud. That’s the same as counting 3 seconds in the lane: it’s a silent count. By counting loudly so the offensive player can hear how close he is to committing a 5-second turnover, you’re penalizing the defense. If I was the coach, I would have let you have over that.
These are just observations from a longtime official at the high school and collegiate level. We call 3-man; can’t recall the last time I was on a 2-man crew.
I agree with most of these. However, I didn't see him talking to the cheerleaders during a live ball near the end of the game. The gestures between quarters are bad optics, so are the dance moves. In regards to asking what player wants the foul, I've heard this done by college and NBA officials, so I have no problem with that. On the Q3 play in the line, yes, he's far away, but I assume he has a good look on this play, at least he should if he's positioned correctly. While I would expect a cadence whistle on this play, I have no issue with him coming in to grab this foul. Great catch on the counting of closely guarded. I've watched this video numerous times and was always trying to figure out what he was counting there. I agree that is very unusual and certainly a silent count is what should be used there.
I'd work with him
Very strange looking at the fans in the stands. Where I come from there would have been a full gym for every varsity game. My high school gym seated 10,000 for basketball. We had to have a lottery each summer for the vacant fall seats.
bruh what this is the school mikey plays for and 7:17 is his coach
does your association not use signals at the spot of the foul
Think I heard him say no during the pre-game
Never seen a two man crew for basketball
In San Diego its standard to have 2 refs for the regular season, which this was, and then 3 refs for the playoffs. Money being the reason for only 2 refs during the regular season. Some tournaments and showcases will have 3 refs at the game.
also we cannot wear rings while officiating
the team could get an extra timeout with a technical foul
anyone notice they have no State patches on their arm???
Amazing how well plays are called when the camera is on. Wish it was that way all the time
in california they dont wear one generally.
I'm from South Dakota and we don't have state patches. We have the flag on our left arm and have side panels.... each state does it differently. But for varsity games it is ALWAYS a three man crew.
Basket interference call should be coming from trail. 2-man is not suited for varsity. tough gig.
That basket interference on 17:54 was not his call
Correct, HOWEVER, 2-man ball requires flexibility to go out of your zone. You are correct, however. BE FLEEEXIBLEEEEEE
I also think he waited for a whistle from his partner. Two man is different and the hardest money made. Especially with the athletic ability of these two teams.
@@j51969 yep he did wait. it was a good "late" call. you usually wait for your partner to make the call. he doesn't, you take it. a normal partner will not say anything.
I appreciate his energy but did he need to talk that much to the players/coaches?
I've been officiating for over 10 years. An a official that is in the game. Why does it matter???
@@traviserhardt5521 I have too. I don't know, to me it just seemed a little excessive. But if that is your personality go for it I guess.
@@traviserhardt5521 11:25: Dude?!!?!
no switch at 30.45 mark
they acknowledged that. way to nit pick
@@brady13001 if you're being referee coached they will look at the smallest things you do wrong and bring it up. that's just part of the job, in Australia at least they would have pulled that up and asked why we didn't change and we'd get marked down for it
He identified the shooter, yes, but failed to identify who the foul was on, at the spot of the foul.
not required everywhere, as is the case where I officiate.
Remove the burden of remembering alternating possession. Discbands.com for Basketball Officials. Be professional. Be right.
on "hit" foul call, whats with the punching of the elbow signal????! thats not correct mechanics according to nfhs....very personable referee, but I personally would not ever tell a coach, "maybe I want that one back"
Lorenzo Valdez hit mechanics seem to very depending on the official. Not a huge deal, as his mechanic clearly shows the type of foul. I don't see anything wrong with telling a coach you wish you had another look at a play. Not every time of course, but it reminds the coach that you're human too and may have missed something, and that you are doing everything you can to call it right.
Absolutely right Nick. By admitting that maybe you didn't have the best look at a play you are at least being human, and the coach will likely give you a lot less crap the rest of the game. Obviously you don't want to tell the coach that several times per game, but one time is fine and depending on the game, even two if you have a good relationship with the coach.
he doesn't look 23....
Callum Woods he was referring to 23 years of being a referee.
and you don't look like an idiot. But clearly you are.