An Ax to Grind - Complete Video
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- Here is the complete video (Parts 1 & 2 combined) of An Ax to Grind featuring Region 1 Historic Preservation Team leader Bernie Weisgerber. Mr. Weisgerber has likely forgotten more about axes and axemanship than I'll ever know. This video set was made as a companion to the USFS document "An Ax to Grind: A Practical Ax Manual" (Document No. 9923-2823-MTDC, July, 1999), also authored by Bernie Weisgerber. The video set and manual are absolutely the best modern resources available over ax use and care. Enjoy!
Did anybody else notice what a perfect job of hewing the side of that log the man was doing at .47 seconds? It looked saw cut. Amazing.
Mark Wilkinson I know right, I couldn’t do that with a chainsaw
And at around 47 minutes in
Yeah. He was using a hewing axe. It's designed for doing that. The handle is offset so you don't hit your knuckles on the workpiece and the blade is beveled on only one side. Think of it as a chisel that you swing
William Manning did anyone ask? I think we knew
@@rowanfernsler9725 what did you know?
Quality info and content! I’ve been a timber faller for 18 years and I learned new things today.
Kept my interest the entire hour. Love the traditional focus and the depth of knowledge and expertise without being obnoxious and arrogant. Had friends work those CCC camps so brought back some of the stories I heard. Thank you.
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I like how they talk to us like we all haven't grown up around logging and have been chopping wood and doing timberwork since we first started walking.
Mainly bc thats exactly the case.
Brent, I just wanted to thank you for putting up all these videos.
I really enjoyed your video and learning about the various axe types. Thank you!
After watching this video I really appreciate the hard work the pioneers and their horses did in order to clear the land. My back started aching just watching you work with that broad axe and adze- Excellent video.
Thank you for having this available! It’s been incredibly helpful!
This was great and answered a whole host of questions this neophyte had.
Wonderful old classic Video with perfect expert and good music and song
i agree with the hangin but i've learned that about 1/4 inch past the head gives a good solid hangin, they dont loosen and cant back off
Wow..... what a fantastic video and such great information presented very clearly.
Very nice. Cool axe collection - really enjoyed seeing all those old tools!
Love it when you said 25 degrees angle.I got 21 but have not got the tip finished ...great teaching here
Thank you Sir
Thank you for uploading this gem
Thank you for your time a diligence. I have always admired axes and would look at a man's axe and then size him up.
Love Learning new things and seeing traditional ways of logging from our past !
Great video ! Subscribed and headed to watch more!
Saw this video years ago. Made a real impression on a young fella. Now almost forty, i have owned and maintained several axes. Heads and hafted examples gifted or passed down to me. With these tools and my trusty stihl, I have keep my family warm. Love the music. Just magic
I never realized how "stupid" I was about axes until I watched Mr. Payne's excellent tutorial...learned a ton from this video.
Very good viewing of everything about axes. Thank You!
fantastic. gripped from start to finish. Thank you
Also in Montana. I just purchased a 6" Keen Kutter broad axe to practice hanging and hewing with. Little nervous about getting the curved handle right. I'm just starting out, so I really appreciate this clear and informative video.
this isn't the best how-to for hanging a handle. He cuts the excess top off before putting the head on. Then he puts the head on and cuts the excess off again. Then he hammers in the wedge and cuts the excess off a third time. Makes no sense.
Beautifully done. Love it!!
Safety first! On this otherwise brilliant lesson on axe care fundamentals, Bernie makes a very serious error in disposing of the rag he used for applying the linseed oil. For anyone unfamiliar with proper disposal of oily rags, he should have demonstrated either laying the rag out completely flat and unfolded, putting it in a sealed metal container, or immersing it in a bucket of water. He correctly stated that a crumpled rag of linseed (and other drying) oils can spontaneously combust. Having that happen unnoticed in the corner of your shop is about the worst scenario. That said, this was a very enjoyable video in so many ways. Cheers.
Merry Christmas
Thanks 😎
Well done Sir. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
That is one of the greatest videos ever
Gransfors Burks. Glad you had one. I bought one at the Paul bunion show in Ohio this year. I bought it drive wedges. It's thin and sharp and stays sharp. Throws good also.
Excellent video. Thanks
Well done, most informative. Thank you.
Beautiful work
Great video, learned a lot of facts about axe's, thanks for sharing !
Great informative video. I had no idea there was so much to axes. I learned a lot. Being 67 years old I doubt I could do much ax work. Would like to though.
Don’t have to chop with them
Get after it, young'un!
I cannot get this song out of my damn head.
Thanks. I found this video looking for some instruction. Doesn't disappoint
Thank you. I enjoy to watch the way I learned, not grinding wheels, or banjo grinders, Just the file, , ,(I sliced my knuckle open more time than I can count). Beginners Tip. Never run your fingers across the face of what you just filed, the oils make it real slick, the file won't bite, the fie slides, and slices the finger open. Thanks again.
THANK YOU SO MUCH
Best and informative vid I have ever seen thank you so much.
What a magnificent video. I have viewed about 50 videos on ax sharpening and everyone seems to have a different opinion on how to make an ax sharp. I did find it funny when you suggested to have a guard on a bastard file to protect your hand but tested sharpness cutting hair off your arm instead of using a piece of paper. Overall, you should be in commercials. You're a confident speaker and believable.
This show was made in 1802, so doubt he is still alive
haha haha
I know everyone rolled their eyes about the "protectors" on the files and the gloves. I just cut the absolute shit out of my finger doing this. I'm lucky i still have a fingers cause its a deep nasty cut that's going to take weeks to heal.
Seriously though. Wear PPE. Even people who do this all the time make mistakes.
I hate to say just how many times I have cut my finger while using a file. I still rarely use a glove unless I’m doing a lot of filing and then I make sure to use a glove.
"Look at the edge.....I SAID LOOK AT THE EDGE DAMMIT!" Great video...I leave his vids going all day in the office as background music....
First video of this channel I have watched Excellent 🇦🇺👍hello very informative interesting thankyou
It's sad that we are losing men like mr Payne every day. When I listen to someone like him I try really hard to take in everything he says. I just wish I would of payed more attention to my grandparents and great uncles.Once thay are all gone we will be the worst for it. Men like him are too few.
Paid...😉
Very well done on the various uses that different axes are better suited for , design , head shape , head weight, handle length .. First time i had seen this.. I own one Gransfors Bruks axe and i really like it fine swedish steel well tempered holds an edge excellent .. I bought it because i could not find a good quality made here .. An excellent book any woodsman should read is, "Axe makers of North America"..
The axes of yesteryear ..
Howdy Cousin. Great video, very informative, funny and Safe. Good Show
EXCELLENT VID..WONDERFUL...THANK YOU SIR.
i love this mans educational films. reminds me of my papa al. just hung a vintage(was a light blue paint dunno if it was original but its now blued with birchwood casey perma blue and tru blue,blued it once then went to hang it and decided to redo the blue...with what is apparently a different colour...now it looks like the "case hardened" finish your find on firearms..cant wait to use it an build the petina) gransfors camping 1.25 lb hatchet on a brand new gransfors small wildlife handle to this video
very educational, very good
Wow I good learning curve, I didn’t know there was that much to ax’s.
Good info, kinda like The Woodwrite's Shop but with the Quaker Oats guy.
This is Vintage Wranglerstar, but with an early 1990’s bend
WOW!. Thank you😊😊😊
I'm playing the song in repeat
It’s a whole different ball game in Australia with cutting and difficulty. People raised around pine, cannot comprehend just how hard, Australian hardwood is. Just watching that guy chop into the pine, he was easily 2 to 3 times deeper than a pro would be in any timber here. Grey Box and Ironbark are 15 (kN) on the Janka scale, American Oak and Cypress, no harder than 6. On one swing he bit off a chip bigger than anything I’ve ever seen in an Australian hardwood. You’d be 10 swing falls to get out the volume he gets in two leisurely drops..
Great video. Never thought I could watch a hour on Axes. I never lost interest once. After listening to you I know that I am a Ax abuser.i almost feel bad.
Love the old photos and the music. Gives me the 'horrors' to see people shave the hairs on their forearm; has caused some horrific injuries over the years. The Tuatahe is not Australian; it is made in New Zealand; a great competition axe.
Wonderful video. I need to find a double bitted axe, as well as a broad axe. Also need to get my hands on the rust erasers.
I believe the Japan Woodworker sells some.
Granite Valley Farm; Check out a company called Klingspor. They make a wide range of abrasive products, including their version of the host's "rust erasers" in three different grits. Lie-Nielsen Tools in Warren, Maine stocks them. Disclaimer: I don't work for ANY of these folks. Regards.
I’ve been lucky enough to work with old timers like this guy they are the real deal and will lay a ass whooping on you like you’ve never had
I made a limber-Jack for Christmas [for my son], Years ago, ,, , He still has it.
Very informative.
Couldn't walk away.
Almost choked when i saw the little wooden dancing man toy at the end. I have never seen another one of those except for the two that a recently inherited.from my grandfather. YEARS ago i used to play with them, back when homemade wooden toys were all we had. I am certain that grooms a childs imagination strongly. We danced them on wood shake shingles. Does anyone know the origin of these little guys?
I use 1800's tools in my woodworking and also metal detect. I found a very early Pennsylvania axe in southwest PA.
After decades of being buried it cleaned up nicely and you can see where it was forge welded I didn't need to do much more than stone the edge and make a new handle.
It's a wopping 9 lbs! But is an impressive feller. I would love to find a nice froe to complete my timber tools. Thanks for a great video series.
This man is Golden. Like Solomon.
I always let a 1/4 inch or so out the top. Even on my hammers they stay tight longer. I never cut it flush.
Torch and used motor oil brings the grain out real good.
Best video on hafting that I have seen.
OIL CLOGS EVERY STONE I HAVE USED. WATER ALWAYS WORKS BETTER. some soap mixed in if necessary
the reason for the 2 steel wedges are for getting it to swell left to right and then top to bottom it's an old Russian method i believe ill send you a video on it being done properly ill think you being an ax man you will truly enjoy this video passing the knowledge forward my friend and thank you for teaching us so much very appreciated my friend
czcams.com/video/BqLwNrSQUBc/video.html enjoy my friend
Tuatahi competition axes are made in New Zealand thanks .
I’d like to add don’t just discard the oil filled rag lay it out to dry putting one or more in a lump can start the fire you mentioned. I know from experience. Let them dry openly.
Homie sounds like the lighthouse keeper on the purge planet on Rick and Morty.
"Sharpen away from the edge"
*immediately sharpens toward the edge*
tyler mexican immediatly becomes an idiot for posting this comment
I kind of chuckled thinking the same thing ....later he clarifies but seeing him do it made it clear his terminology made sense to him
Grand force BRUNKS. eh thays good enough. This guy amazing
This guy is 2 parts Ron Swanson, 2 parts John Wayne, and 1 part Sam Elliot.
Hey Bernie and Brent great work. Hey I just restored a Baltimore Kentucky. Is this primarily a splitter? Not much info on this pattern, which is pretty wedgie. I just hung it on a 32".
Well hung!
I have a Lansky sharpening puck, which has a coarse and medium grit side. I've used it with their honing oil and the blade is not sharp enough to shave with.
This video says when you get a burr you can move from the coarse to fine grit, which I did. I then got a burr with the medium grit and used a rag on it.
I need to go and check it out to see if their is a reflection when viewing the blade in light to make sure there isn't one according to this video. I'll also strop it on leather to see if that makes a difference with the green compound.
Trust me, Langley picks will eat your ask sharper, but it’s extremely coarse
@@rowanfernsler9725 What is a Langley pick?
Shaun Hill it’s auto correct I try to type lansky puck and it gives me Langley picks
@@rowanfernsler9725 But I said I was using a Lansky puck, you thought I was using some other sharpener? That's how I read your original reply.
Stropping makes a huge difference. If you want a razor sharp polished edge the "Rooster method" is another option, cheap and simple. There are some tutorials on youtube.
Leaving about 1/4 inch of handle wood beyond the bit instead of flush cutoff helps lock head on. Moisture content of handle matters. Radially split wood makes a fine handle. Wood splits across the growth rings as easily or easier as along growth rings. Crescent grind is interesting. Thin in the middle but strong at the corners.
Is there no specific Limbing axe pattern? I only see the same pattern for felling it looks.
That's actually not how you drive a wedge home. You do it upside down and bang the haft and allow the axe head to travel down the haft as the wedge fills the kerf. It keeps the wedge from cracking.
Here's the full song at the end called The Woodsman: yxa.pettersson-vik.se/Film%20och%20ljud/01%20-%20The%20Woodsman.mp3
Does anyone know what the song is called?
Im currently testing the bad grain orientation amd heart wood theory...so I have a plum double bit on a what we are told is perfect in everyday handle...then a snow and nealley double bit that's almost exactly the same size and weight.... on a handle made by the same company with sideways grain and half heart wood half sap wood.....and ima use and kinda abuse both of them and see what one brakes first if either them ever brake in my life time
what happened?
A real man isnt concerned with sharpness. He'll cut with a blunt edge just as good.
I don't understand why he cut before he started to hang the head. I have several axes where the head doesn't meet the shoulder and they are fine. I have restored a few axes and have been able to save the original handle because there was still some room to seat the head due to the fact that that head hadn't been seated to where he designated to be. After a restoration the head sits where he designates it should be.
Where you get your erracers??
Can you send me a link can't fond them on Google
www.garrettwade.com/wonderbar-rust-eraser-gp.html
No joke, I love these things!
Sorry, I don’t buy your comment about using a double bit ax to “grub roots”. A double bit ax is sharp both sides for taking down the wedge. One side gets dull, other side is ready.
well depends, some people keep one side razor sharp for felling, and the other slightly dull for working near the ground as to not dull up the blade. all depends on what your doing
j0sh as I have been taught, the double bit ax is a fine cutting tool not to be confused with a dirt tool of which there are many. Just like you don’t use a chainsaw to cut roots.
I've burned out my handles, you simply have to bury the edge carefully to avoid damaging the temper. But don't attempt it if you don't age experience. I use a 400, then 1,000 grit stone and then take a good strop with some green buffing compound to put an edge on my axe blades. If need be ill take a mill Bastard file to do some repair on an older edge. Great video, if you enjoy these and want more id recommend checking out Wranglerstar if you haven't already. (Thanks for uploading this man!)
Wow, somehow you are able to avoid breaking the laws of thermodynamics!
clancy6969 it's not avoiding the laws, it's working within them. Burying the edges or caking them in clay and the burying them works just fine. Before talking shit, know what shit you're talking about.
Sorry but you are just too stupid for me to engage you in this discussion any further.
clancy6969 so what you're saying is that you have no response? See, some of us actually use axes and have experience in these areas. Fantastic retort, though. You really educated me and put me in my place.
Yep you got it bud, please keep burning out handles like that, I hope you do it to every one.
Great video, but part 2 seems the same as part 1.
If the axe cutting edge is hardened, how can a file cut into it ?
They are tempered, which makes the edge metal harder than the body of the axe but still workable with a file, at least most of the time. Sometimes on axes you can see the temper line, where they dipped the red hot axe into oil to cool just the edge.
Can you imagine if the us Forrest service made this today. It would be all unicorns and doublespeak.
Could you please explain the function of oil when you use the round stone?
Thank you, from the Netherlands.
+Laurens Beerendonk Oil or water carries away the fine shavings removed by the stone. It also helps keep the edge cool during the grinding process so as not to alter the steel temper. Hope this answers your question.
It's to keep the stone from loading up. Has nothing to do with cooling.
@@verteup unless he's The Flash
Not a bad effort
I wonder how his back is feeling
Any1 no the opening song
Die-A-Beat-Us
Oh yeah!...an old pedal grindstone...I have 3 of those. Doesn't everyone? : P
Is it axe or ax?
Gransfroms Brunks
Hopefully this guy has grandkids...
Hi
A good small chain saw for 95 percent of the limbing.
Usfs back country trail service
Axe work= cheaper
why do hit the handle to knock the axe head on?
Think about it,he's driving the handle down into the axe,it's seems weird to people who never hung an axe,most people try to pound the axe head onto the handle and I gurantee u will never get that axe to go on as good as pounding on the handle,also the eye of the axe is tapoured,it's smaller at the bottom and bigger at the top!
It drives em on really tight