The Most Overlooked Song Secret.
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- Yes this ALWAYS works and many times OVERLOOKED!
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Geez, that's a damn great soundin' music track you whipped up, sounds like a late 80's Pop song.
Another gem from the good doctor - surprising that something so simple adds so much space and depth.
Thanks Chris
I use this trick on 99% of my recordings. Love it
Thanks Dwight!
AWESOME Videos & Samples Dr. Bob! Please keep them coming...both are helping me out immensely! Thank you!
Thanks for the timely reminder on this, I first picked the trick up off the outro of 'Racing In The Street'-probably an idea they in turn picked up off Phil Spector.
Thanks for the sample! I still use your "Stomps" and " Claps" samples you gave away a year ago.
Great and my pleasure!
That is awesome! Absotively posilutely fantabulous!
Thanks Michael!
Brilliant! And you share all these great things with us - hero!
btw I've missed your opening sequences in recent videos - great to see the 'little things' opener again 😁
Hahaha! Thanks Dave!
LOVE IT! Thank you Bobby!!! Very cool!
So I went into soft soft and tried to intuitively grasp the basic fundantals. And now listening back I feel like I'm one step ahead of Nice tutorialm.
Great video-explain thanks ... one more credit for the beautiful funny introduction and as it is evident at the same time also very professional, congratulations. 😁👏🏻
Great Tipp Bobby! Thank you very much! You always do a good job
Thank You BOB!
This is great, thank you!
The tambourine sounds nice but I personally thought it should've been quieter in the mix. That mix gave me a visual of a tambourine twice the size of the bass drum. :-) I'm a drummer so I see things probably differently but I don't think that a tambourine should be much louder than what the hi-hat would sound like on a drum kit.
agree
He may or may not have done that with the purpose of making it stand out to demonstrate the difference. But yeah in the final mix it shouldn't stand out as much.
@@metaltom2003 I believe he would have mentioned it if he meant it to be quieter. I personally would have used a 16 in Crash cymbal for those snare drum accents and use the tambourine further back and over to the right side. I would still have it loud enough to be noticeable. Make it sound like it's in the room but not in your face.
yep, agreed. If it's that loud, maybe not as bright w the eq.
This wasn’t a mix just a demonstration but thanks for your comments!
This was educative and entertaining for me... Thanks again Bob. You have a good heart.
Thanks Gy! Working on the heart every day….
Just incorporated this trick in my new production. Thank you Bobby!
That’s great Oliver!
Ingenious Doc!
Thanks Super Sauce.
Great video Dr. Bob. Love mixing tambo into ballads like that.
Thanks Brett
Thx for all you do Doctor !!!
Same to you John!!
Great stuff as usual Bobby. My favorite part was the demonstration of pre-delay on the tambourine quarter note example.
Thanks. Yeah that is a great technique and a VERY important feature on reverbs.
When you look at the most rock ballads from the 80's, they all had the tambourine in them, with the snare hits, with the huge reverb. This trick is as old, as time itself.
Phil Spector was the first to really use this technique to great effect in the 60's. Since then, it's been copied a million times over. In the 80's ,this trick was on most songs.
If you want that 80's sound, there you go.
That is so easy and good it's rediculous! I laughed for a minute at the unreal difference! Thanks, brother! 🤘😁🥁
Thanks man!
Thanks for the tip, Bobby. Always good ones from you. Throw some lead guitar in there, and you've got a very Journey-esque vibe going there. Love the big drum sound.
Thanks John! Journey was def part of the soundtrack of my high school years. Listened to Escape, and Frontiers, a lot!! Good memories and a great band.
Yeah, this is great. I noticed even in heavier guitar-driven tracks (Nickelback's guitar heavy stuff), there's still shaker tambourine all over that stuff! It adds a lot, really fills in those gaps. Thanks as always, man!
Thanks Sinner! Yes. Foo Fighters use it too!
seriously helped thank you!!
My pleasure Quadee.
Tambo, egg shaker, Nashville guitar and mandolin are great tools to consider when dialing the last 10% of an arrangement
Agreed Adam. It's great spice.
awesome as always man. I also love your picky guitar thing - very 'I Don't Want To Miss A Thing' 🤘
Thanks Stephen. I love that song.
I did something similar with a handclap, or white noise sidechained of the snare, or with sidechain compressed room mics (ah la Hugh Padham). It really does add some extra pop!
Currently working on a roots ballad. Trying the tambourine. Just eased it in subtlety. Sounds good. Thank you.
Great Gobi!
God bless you Bob. Thanks for this good knowledge. 😍🤘
Thank You Patricia!
I had flashbacks to Pentecostal church ladies. 😂😂
Hahahahaha
Fantastic tip - the song sounds like a Journey outtake from the Escape sessions, kept expecting Steve Perry to kick in...
Thanks Michael! I listened to Escape and Frontiers a ton in high school. Great memories!
@@BobbyHuff Me too, not a majority position in England in the early '80s :) I remember buying Escape on release day, taking it home and being absolutely blown away...
@@michaelcottle6270 yeah it’s interesting how Journey was MASSIVE here and TOTO wasn’t and it was reversed over the pond. I learned a lot from both bands especially TOTO.
Bravo! Listen for a similar technique on Foo Fighters "Learn to Fly". The tambourine hit is off the beat from the snare on that one, but the desired effect is achieved. Thanks, Bobby!
Yes good ear! It's very easy to hear in that song and sounds great!
@@BobbyHuff Absolutely. Sometimes I will use just the reverb return minus the original signal. Cool. Cooking with gasoline. 😉
I like a bright sound, so i heartily agree!
I enjoy the linndrum tambourine samples, they play nice with my reverb.
I've also done the oneshot thing with an 808 clap with a ton of reverb and a high-pass filter
Thanks Ty!
Hey Bob!! Thanks for another great tip. I was missing that "litle things" intro, I really love it haha. The tambourine trick, here in my town we call it "doing a Bryan Adams"😂 You should do some cowbell videos, that would be awesome!
HAHAHA. I LOVE Bryan Adams and no one did it better.
@@BobbyHuff Mutt Lange of course 😜
Personally, I want to hear more cowbell baby!
great trick I think alot of 80's rock tunes my use a variation of that even in realy rockin tunes. on all snare hits, but back further in the mix and less reverb if any.
Hmm. I see where I've been going wrong all these years. I never use tambourine. Thanks Bobby. I do use reverse cymbals though and love the effect. Recently recorded a bunch of sounds from the stuff in my garage and liked the samples. Found long ago the small random SFX can really give some unexpected pop to something.
Thanks John!
Love this! Sometimes to add energy, you can switch the tambourine into double-time during the last chorus. It's subtle...and it's NOT! 🙂 Another double-time option is to add one of those puny egg-shakers; not much tone, but perfect for this because they won't step on the tambo.
Love that!
I think you've discovered the secret of noise for opening up a mix psycho-acoustically. Look up the MAAG plugin that is supposed to do this automatically and algorithmically. Of course, the MAAG adds "unnoticed" noise, but the noise doesn't need to be unnoticed to work. EDM producers also add noise usually either with actual noise itself ("hissssss...") or noisy elements (like, say, a hissy tambourine hit?). Once you start listening for it, you can't not notice it.
Tambourine works well except for the solo shot where it is far too loud. You made your point very well regardless. We can dial it down to taste. Great video.
Hey Bobby. I love tambourines and when in the right hands (yours not mine) it makes a huge difference. One thing you didnt mention: they're a lot more difficult to keep in time than most people think...or maybe my rhythm just sucks. Another great video my friend. Mark
You can record a one shot of you or download a sample of a few different sounding hits and avoid the need to perform in time!
Thanks Mark! Always nice to see yo on here !
Thanks Dr. B, that’s some real voodoo sh*t…
Hahaha! Thanks
Funny, I've always thought the thing that should be in every tune is a cowbell! Dunno, maybe I have bad taste?! (The tamborine sounds great without getting in the way. BTW)
Great! Will you do a tut on how you did your intro? Start to Finish
Needs more cowbell. Kidding! It's funny how some old school techniques still work today.
Haha! Agreed!
Very good!
Thanks Ryan!
God, I hated the tambourine-in-a-cavern-on-every-other-snare thing with a vengeance. I think the only thing I hated more was the ballad sax solo. But it was ubiquitous for a reason. Also, I-VI-V-IV is probably my favorite chord progression. Powerful stuff, man.
Great tip
It’s the X-mas version!
Valhalla plate rules!
I think it's very nice. Adding some percussion to a mix, some shakers, bongos, tambourines, etc, always bring something different. It doesn't always work, but it's fun to try. Do you know what else sounds supercool sometimes? A melodica. LOL.
Thanks Anderson.
@@BobbyHuff Very thoughtful of you to answer all comments. Keep it up!
@@agirotto1 thanks Anderson! I try. I appreciate all the comments!
Epic Intro🤣
I call this Ringos tambourine when I suggest it. See also...bongos and cowbell...the cowbell also adds to the snare.
I know an up-and-coming drummer out in California who was putting together a new kit. I asked him if he was going to mount a tambourine. He asked, "What would I want that for?" Hmmm . . . SMH. Great tip, Doctor Bob!
Thanks Jon!
Well, Damn. The Tambourine really is the unsung hero. Bar bands seem to just toss it without care to every drunk girl that wants to be on stage. I'll never look at one the same way again. Definitely going to adopt this too. Might come up with a song that uses those stomps and claps, as well
Thanks Nexus!
@@BobbyHuff Nah, Thank you!
This song and tambourine concept instantly reminded me of "Deuces Are Wild" by Aerosmith. They are masters of the tambourine I think. Thanks a lot for making this video, I'm definitely going to utilize the tambo more it in my own productions.
Thanks Ben! Love Aerosmith!
Deuces are wild man what an amazing song!
@@BobbyHuff Me too! Saw them in 2004 in Tupelo Mississippi with Cheap Trick, that was a great show!
@@nickmandleberg Yeah man, every time I hear it it's like the first time I heard it, not many bands can do that!
@@music7studios I have relatives in Tupelo. Nice city!
lol,,,great entro
More cow bell
Hahaha
I usualy blend tamborine samples and live ones. That little not exacltly of live ones realy makes thingscome a live.
Thanks Bobby.. Did you play/record the Tambourine samples yourself?.. or did you get Sumner to do it :)
HAHAHA!! Sumner can't play in time!!
Where can I find a tambourine in Cubase (Halion/Groove Agent)?
Im not sure Ralph but you can grab these samples from me they are pay what you want.
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Cool
Thanks!
Hey mr tambourine man play a song for me🤣🤣🤣🙋♂️
Ha! I knew it was going to be percussion.
Booom!
i paid for the snare but no download link available
Stevie Nicks approves.
Hahahaha!
Interesting detail you didn’t mention.. It sounds like you played/recorded the tambourine with a stick (or hand) in eight notes as opposed to trying to get that feel by the tradition back n forth approach that rarely sounds consistently in time. In the track it sounds so even! Is that how it was recorded?
Hey Bob. Yes I describe towards the middle of the video that I do an 8th note shake part the tambourine but hit the 2 and 4 against my palm. Is that what you mean?
What song is this melody from?
Hey man tambos are for hippies! LOL totally kidding, but it’s ironic I noticed the power of the tambourine in some songs recently myself.
Its a great spice Russ!
That tambourine sounds terrible. What this track needs is a little more cow bell.
needs to be layered on top of everytNice tutorialng, since perc makes the soft get a rythm. to get more bounce you could ass tNice tutorialngs such as open
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Cowbell?
Have you tried quad tracking the tambourine with slap and quarter ping-pong delay, some saturation, parallel compression, a reverse sample a stereo widener, a high pass filter at 500hz, 12db boost at 7k, and a flanger above 5k on the return track with a 14 second delay and 12:1 ratio compressor on the mix bus?
If not, your tambourine is. not. sexy. enough.
That’s my EXACT tambourine mixing plugin path except my compressor ratio 8:1. Hahahaha
Aerosmith crash...😂
Maybe not every song. lol
Hahaha.. Almost always worth a try.
Is this guy underbelly in disguise. Lol