No Bump, No Tackle, No prior opportunity, no incorrect disposal, no umpire consistency within 1/4s let alone games or week to week. The chicken wing is the new AFL approved tackle, watch for all the shoulder and arm injuries incoming. As a fan I've never been more frustrated and confused watching the game. Many of my friends and family are saying they now only watch their own teams play and even that is a struggle. The AFL is in a terrible place right now
I Agree 100% that the AFL is lost and it looks like getting worse rather than improving. I myself don't even watch it as it's not the game I grew up playing. It's gone from a contact sport to netball or basketball like sport. Let boys be boys having a crack is part of the game there's a difference between playing hard and playing dirty. It appears the powers to be put everything in the same basket. I agree with Cane the game is in a bad place with these rules Changes.
@@AndrewDean-rt8cv No shit Einstein, About a thousand rule changes ago and the same amount of absolutely pathetic suspensions that will eventually cost a team a chance to either play finals or even worse a GF, And my comment was in reference to the TURKEYS running or should I say ruining the GAME!!!
Massive West Coast and Duggan fan here... I can't f**kn believe it either! The game is in massive trouble if that's worth 3 weeks, even 1 week would be too many.
@travisfarley to be honest, there was a tackle where Yeos head went into the ground as they went upside down, that one looked way more dangerous and surprised it wasn't booked
@@foxtrot_in_socks1589 yeah I remember the one you're talking about, Yeo stayed on the ground for a bit. That just highlights the inconsistencies in decisions, as well as the nature of the game and incidental contact with the ground.
Australia is the second most litigious country in the world. The AFL has no other option but to turn the game into "touch footy". Ex-players are lining up to line their pockets with money from concussions they received as players, some will be legit with brain damage, others will try to just get another payday. Lawyers are going to make a fortune, the game will be a joke, but that's the reality of living in Australia. As a people we will sue at the drop of a hat, want massive compensation (beyond what is warranted), so the future of the AFL is to make the game as soft as possible. I mean the umpires will sue soon for back damage from doing the bounce, no joke, this ain't a joke.
Agree with Kane if you think its to rough don't play. In players contract, clause you can't SUE club or afl for heard or injury during or after you retire.
I agree with that completely But how do you expect Individual responsibility to reign supreme, when the sheep are consistently deferring their responsibility, to the other or another authority?
I occasionally watch CZcams videos where Yanks and other nationalities react to AFL. They highlight the brutal tackles of yesteryear as being the most watchable part of our game. Any tourist coming here these days and wanting to see that in the flesh would be extremely disappointed with the new sanitized version of footy.
Once again the umpire not blowing the whistle early enough lead to Duggen trying to break charlies tackle and losing balance. Yet charlie cops the 3 weeks because they both fell backwards....... "umpirings the best its ever been" Also off the ball things not being called is down to the umpires being scared to make calls. The afl has absolutely screwed them by giving them next to no help with what to call, its confusing as hell
Well I think the umpires are just as confused as the players at times. I've said it before. One of the dads when my own son was playing U14 a few years ago used to get stuck into the umpires (who were also U14) to the extent that it was cringe-worthy. Through a set of circumstances, that same dad got convinced to umpire a game (how hard can it be). He came off after the game was over and said he would never criticise umpires again. He was good to his word too.
@@kymcha Yet they watch players like roses elbow a player on the mark in the neck and dont pay it. For holding the ball I get it and things that arent set in stone. But highs that blatent it just makes you wonder. We have a 4th umpire now specifically for that and they never call it, same with Neale being held at literally every stoppage the other night. He was straight up chicken winged infront of the ump with the ball not even in the air yet and they refuse to aknowledge it
I remember when the bump died, now the tackle is going the same way. Without fantasy footy, I'm not sure I'd watch any other teams play. This is what happens when people like Kingy and others keep screaming. Ex players sueing the comp is a joke.
I saw the Bedford tackle. I'd like to know when & how the opponent gets concussed? He almost gently lets him down. The impact with the ground was minimal. Weird. I hate the Wing Tackle. I have always hated it & it was outlawed in the 1980's in the SANFL. The VFL followed suit but dropped it in about 2016.
collingwood get ginnivan wrong even though he asked to go and did not follow team rules. sane guy says melbourne should trade oliver and give a first roubd pick because his too much trouble. Ginnivan will be a good forward oliver was and will be again a top 3 midfielder in the league
Australia is the second most litigious country in the world. The AFL has no other option but to turn the game into "touch footy". Ex-players are lining up to line their pockets with money from concussions they received as players, some will be legit with brain damage, others will try to just get another payday. Lawyers are going to make a fortune, the game will be a joke, but that's the reality of living in Australia. As a people we will sue at the drop of a hat, want massive compensation (beyond what is warranted), so the future of the AFL is to make the game as soft as possible. I mean the umpires will sue soon for back damage from doing the bounce, no joke, this ain't a joke.
Every single player in the AFL has an option to wear a helmet, i say its a contact sport if you feel like not using a helmet is a good choice then any injury you get while not wearing one is on you. Maybe force players to wear helmets if concussion is such a danger. Even more to the point any player coming off concussion protocols should be forced to wear one or not play. We need to stop the concussions not ruin the game. You'd think actually protecting the head with a helmet would be the first option before changing rules and substance of the game.
It has become such a struggle to watch this great game reconstructed into something else entirely, fabric of the game is ruined, can't tackle, can't spoil, can't bump, can't believe a bloke gets 3 weeks for a tackle! With all the ex players lining up for compensation I can't see a reversal of these trends, I'm out, good luck AFL, you going to need it i reckon
Cornsy all smiles and light when talking about Horne-Francis but happy to rip into literally anyone else. Putting aside everything else that's wrong with his commentary, that on its own should be enough to seriously doubt his assessments.
Eagles have been the worst in their entire history the last 3 seasons and there is consistently 35-45k there every home game.I know because I am a member and am there too. When I go to Melbourne for footy weekends I've been shocked at some games to see very few at the game. A few years ago Richmond v Freo was a poor crowd too. Hawthorn had a poor turn out to one of the games. It really surprises me because these big clubs with massive memberships are lauded but the reality is that they are fickle as the wind.
Exactly that one arm tackle on young diacos disgrace banned in nrl praised in afl lots problems too come from those tackles seriously dumb decisions being made
The game has become a joke if you sign a contract to a contact sport then you should expect contact if not then dont play afl sick to death of players becoming soft
Presumably if the game is in such dire straights he will terminate his commentary contract and give us all a rest from his hysterical ignorant nonsense and get a real job. Over to you Kane.
The tackle was wreckless. They were not perfect tackles . Toby Bedford was in the back meant to drive him into the ground shouldn't be allowed. In rugby league that type of tackle is frownwed upon. Charlie Cameron took advantage of being in a dominant position and in bad sportsmanship overstepped the boundaries of overusing force on someone who wasn't in the position to defend themselves
Duggen tried to throw charlie off him and lost balance. They were both passangers. Its up to the umpire to blow the whistle quicker so he doesnt try to do that. Charlie didnt create the momentum
You very, very rarely see that tackle in rugby league because it's such a linear game and most contact is front-on. Momentum will continue to take players forward whenever two arms are held and that's ALWAYS been a perfect tackle in our game. You must've been the best player the game's ever seen if you think either Bedford or Cameron could have avoided those outcomes yet still played the game the way it's meant to be played.
If you think that tackle is wreckless you need to stop watching afl because that was a perfect tackle. How can you honestly agree with those actions being taken out of the game. Absolutely ridiculous opinion. It’s a contact sport, if you don’t like it, go watch ping pong you muppet.
No Bump, No Tackle, No prior opportunity, no incorrect disposal, no umpire consistency within 1/4s let alone games or week to week. The chicken wing is the new AFL approved tackle, watch for all the shoulder and arm injuries incoming. As a fan I've never been more frustrated and confused watching the game. Many of my friends and family are saying they now only watch their own teams play and even that is a struggle. The AFL is in a terrible place right now
I Agree 100% that the AFL is lost and it looks like getting worse rather than improving. I myself don't even watch it as it's not the game I grew up playing. It's gone from a contact sport to netball or basketball like sport. Let boys be boys having a crack is part of the game there's a difference between playing hard and playing dirty. It appears the powers to be put everything in the same basket. I agree with Cane the game is in a bad place with these rules Changes.
💯 bro no chickens involved either just a bunch of turkeys 🦃
Chris Judd got suspended for the chicken wing tackle, go figure?
@@AndrewDean-rt8cv No shit Einstein, About a thousand rule changes ago and the same amount of absolutely pathetic suspensions that will eventually cost a team a chance to either play finals or even worse a GF, And my comment was in reference to the TURKEYS running or should I say ruining the GAME!!!
We will struggle without you champ. LOL
Nothing in Cameron's tackle. Can't believe he is copping 3 weeks
Massive West Coast and Duggan fan here... I can't f**kn believe it either! The game is in massive trouble if that's worth 3 weeks, even 1 week would be too many.
@travisfarley to be honest, there was a tackle where Yeos head went into the ground as they went upside down, that one looked way more dangerous and surprised it wasn't booked
I think the AFL want it too be touch football
@@foxtrot_in_socks1589 yeah I remember the one you're talking about, Yeo stayed on the ground for a bit. That just highlights the inconsistencies in decisions, as well as the nature of the game and incidental contact with the ground.
Love Rosas as a player but it’s insane he only gets one week for that elbow. Thought that was 3-4 watching at the time
Hogan precedent shows you can punch a bloke 100m off ball and not get sanctioned. Whole system is a joke.
The GIANTS actually announced 15 minutes after the suspension was handed out that they’d challenge.
Australia is the second most litigious country in the world. The AFL has no other option but to turn the game into "touch footy". Ex-players are lining up to line their pockets with money from concussions they received as players, some will be legit with brain damage, others will try to just get another payday.
Lawyers are going to make a fortune, the game will be a joke, but that's the reality of living in Australia. As a people we will sue at the drop of a hat, want massive compensation (beyond what is warranted), so the future of the AFL is to make the game as soft as possible. I mean the umpires will sue soon for back damage from doing the bounce, no joke, this ain't a joke.
So they should wat sort of decision was that
Agree with Kane if you think its to rough don't play. In players contract, clause you can't SUE club or afl for heard or injury during or after you retire.
I agree with that completely
But how do you expect Individual responsibility to reign supreme, when the sheep are consistently deferring their responsibility, to the other or another authority?
An employee can't waive away their right to a safe workplace and that includes afl players
@@justicedemocrat9357 l am just coming up with possible scenarios to keep the game alive. Head gear compulsory, clauses in contracts etc.
@@justicedemocrat9357
Can you please define what you think a 'Safe' workplace the AFL should be?
Trading Ginnivan for culture reasons 1 season after keeping Jordan De Gooey gets a good chuckle out of me
That's a great point. Same club also put up with Dane Swan for years.
@@drzoidberg19855 And won a grand final with both of those players, go figure.
What happens when you've got people who've never played the game making decisions. Stop ruining the game with your massive ego's.
100% these ppl are more suited to work at the local council.
"contact, goal defence!" It's beyond a joke now
It’s official the game we love has become TAG….
I occasionally watch CZcams videos where Yanks and other nationalities react to AFL. They highlight the brutal tackles of yesteryear as being the most watchable part of our game. Any tourist coming here these days and wanting to see that in the flesh would be extremely disappointed with the new sanitized version of footy.
The game is an embarrassment now. Laura Kane for CEO!!
Not a tigers or giants fan but he can’t be suspended for that
Well I am a tigers fan and find the suspension absurd.
I had co-workers who support Richmond complaining to me that they had to play in GMHBA as it only holds 40K. The audacity 😅
Once again the umpire not blowing the whistle early enough lead to Duggen trying to break charlies tackle and losing balance. Yet charlie cops the 3 weeks because they both fell backwards....... "umpirings the best its ever been" Also off the ball things not being called is down to the umpires being scared to make calls. The afl has absolutely screwed them by giving them next to no help with what to call, its confusing as hell
Well I think the umpires are just as confused as the players at times. I've said it before. One of the dads when my own son was playing U14 a few years ago used to get stuck into the umpires (who were also U14) to the extent that it was cringe-worthy. Through a set of circumstances, that same dad got convinced to umpire a game (how hard can it be). He came off after the game was over and said he would never criticise umpires again. He was good to his word too.
@@kymcha Yet they watch players like roses elbow a player on the mark in the neck and dont pay it. For holding the ball I get it and things that arent set in stone. But highs that blatent it just makes you wonder. We have a 4th umpire now specifically for that and they never call it, same with Neale being held at literally every stoppage the other night. He was straight up chicken winged infront of the ump with the ball not even in the air yet and they refuse to aknowledge it
So pinning the Arms is considered rough Contact in the Guidelines? If that's the case, how the eff are you supposed to Tackle?
Exactly, football is being changed as we see it..
These tackling suspensions are an absolute mockery of our great game.
Letting lawsuits govern the game
Disgusting
I remember when the bump died, now the tackle is going the same way.
Without fantasy footy, I'm not sure I'd watch any other teams play.
This is what happens when people like Kingy and others keep screaming.
Ex players sueing the comp is a joke.
The bump hasn't died
Yeah let's just tell the players to.shut up about their brain damage, so soft if you have brain damage from a tackle or bump 😀
@dermottcolee145 Comes down to if you want to play this game or not, if you're worried, don't play, plenty of other sports out there
Absolutely nothing wrong with Bedford or Charlie’s tackles 😂 we aren’t playing netball
Very well said Kane. Agree with everything you said on these MRO decisions
I saw the Bedford tackle. I'd like to know when & how the opponent gets concussed? He almost gently lets him down. The impact with the ground was minimal. Weird. I hate the Wing Tackle. I have always hated it & it was outlawed in the 1980's in the SANFL. The VFL followed suit but dropped it in about 2016.
In the States their 'Contract Tampering' law is taken very seriously and the penalties are severe
Ginnivan leaked an intimate video of one of his team mates, and their wife. Thats why he was no longer wanted at Collingwood.
When Port win, it's because of Ken.
When Port lose, it's because of the players.
When JHF loses the game, it's everyone's fault but Ken and JHF.
If the MRO is a tick box then what's the fucking point of having an MRO? It's a contact sport for crying out loud.
Hawks supporters are fair weather supporters. They only turn up when they’re on the up. Their logo should be “Sometimes Hawthorn”.
You can keep the high mark. KANE HATES TARANTO.
Funny how players/ex players complain about AFL being tough on head high contact then when they retire sues the AFbfor negligence 😂
Make them sign something apart of their contract, knowingly putting self in KO situations- void their rights to sue AFL somehow...
The game is rough. That's why kids play. These blokes suing insurance companies will kill the game . No fans no sponsor 😅
collingwood get ginnivan wrong even though he asked to go and did not follow team rules. sane guy says melbourne should trade oliver and give a first roubd pick because his too much trouble. Ginnivan will be a good forward oliver was and will be again a top 3 midfielder in the league
Australia is the second most litigious country in the world. The AFL has no other option but to turn the game into "touch footy". Ex-players are lining up to line their pockets with money from concussions they received as players, some will be legit with brain damage, others will try to just get another payday.
Lawyers are going to make a fortune, the game will be a joke, but that's the reality of living in Australia. As a people we will sue at the drop of a hat, want massive compensation (beyond what is warranted), so the future of the AFL is to make the game as soft as possible. I mean the umpires will sue soon for back damage from doing the bounce, no joke, this ain't a joke.
Soon players won't even be able to bring players to ground you'll only be able to tackle if you can stay upright
Every single player in the AFL has an option to wear a helmet, i say its a contact sport if you feel like not using a helmet is a good choice then any injury you get while not wearing one is on you. Maybe force players to wear helmets if concussion is such a danger. Even more to the point any player coming off concussion protocols should be forced to wear one or not play. We need to stop the concussions not ruin the game. You'd think actually protecting the head with a helmet would be the first option before changing rules and substance of the game.
Get off the punters for booing Cornsey, not everyone has their own radio show to whinge on every week.
It has become such a struggle to watch this great game reconstructed into something else entirely, fabric of the game is ruined, can't tackle, can't spoil, can't bump, can't believe a bloke gets 3 weeks for a tackle! With all the ex players lining up for compensation I can't see a reversal of these trends, I'm out, good luck AFL, you going to need it i reckon
Cornsy all smiles and light when talking about Horne-Francis but happy to rip into literally anyone else. Putting aside everything else that's wrong with his commentary, that on its own should be enough to seriously doubt his assessments.
So will we see head gear compulsory in AFL now
Eagles have been the worst in their entire history the last 3 seasons and there is consistently 35-45k there every home game.I know because I am a member and am there too. When I go to Melbourne for footy weekends I've been shocked at some games to see very few at the game. A few years ago Richmond v Freo was a poor crowd too. Hawthorn had a poor turn out to one of the games. It really surprises me because these big clubs with massive memberships are lauded but the reality is that they are fickle as the wind.
Exactly that one arm tackle on young diacos disgrace banned in nrl praised in afl lots problems too come from those tackles seriously dumb decisions being made
Games gone to shit
All because of Dangerfield.
Everyone knows Richmond are massive bandwagoners
The game has become a joke if you sign a contract to a contact sport then you should expect contact if not then dont play afl sick to death of players becoming soft
Let’s just play virtual footy
Game is a joke…you don’t have to sit and regurgitate it for hours
Let’s face it, we’re getting towards a version of touch football. Those of us that don’t like that might as well look for another sport to watch.
Presumably if the game is in such dire straights he will terminate his commentary contract and give us all a rest from his hysterical ignorant nonsense and get a real job. Over to you Kane.
Umpires need a pair of glasses and a bike
Cain needs to read and understand the rules before he speaks on these topics
*Kane oops
His rules are what ever his opinion is at the time he's a flog that thinks he's right all the time
@@alisterbacon3157 Most of us think we're right all the time - otherwise we wouldn't think it.
Wokeball , its a joke
The tackle was wreckless. They were not perfect tackles . Toby Bedford was in the back meant to drive him into the ground shouldn't be allowed. In rugby league that type of tackle is frownwed upon. Charlie Cameron took advantage of being in a dominant position and in bad sportsmanship overstepped the boundaries of overusing force on someone who wasn't in the position to defend themselves
Duggen tried to throw charlie off him and lost balance. They were both passangers. Its up to the umpire to blow the whistle quicker so he doesnt try to do that. Charlie didnt create the momentum
You probably weren't watching the same Cameron tackle
You very, very rarely see that tackle in rugby league because it's such a linear game and most contact is front-on. Momentum will continue to take players forward whenever two arms are held and that's ALWAYS been a perfect tackle in our game.
You must've been the best player the game's ever seen if you think either Bedford or Cameron could have avoided those outcomes yet still played the game the way it's meant to be played.
You have NFI
Please stop watching AFL
If you think that tackle is wreckless you need to stop watching afl because that was a perfect tackle. How can you honestly agree with those actions being taken out of the game. Absolutely ridiculous opinion. It’s a contact sport, if you don’t like it, go watch ping pong you muppet.
Journo's don't have a clue!
id say Kane is more qualified than you, some nuffy on the internet
@@Jaydoggie1exactly
I’d say by your comment you have absolutely no CLUE!!!
Bit like Micheal Christensen.