NOBODY is buying Hellcat Charger & Charger Scatpack 392's? Dodge Dealerships are STRUGGLING!
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- NOBODY is buying Hellcat Chargers & Charger Scatpack 392's? Dodge Dealerships are FLOODED! Why are people not buying Dodge Charger Hellcats and Dodge Charger Scatpack's anymore? Dodge Dealerships are FLOODED with Mopars and V8 Hemis, Charger Hellcats, Challenger Hellcats, Durango Hellcats and TRX's, but nobody is buying these cars right now... WHY??? (MUST WATCH)...
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Unfortunately the criminals have messed it up for everyone. I can drive a Lambo, no problem but get robbed at gunpoint for my Charger! It’s not worth it. Crazy out here.
That’s one good point, but my point who want to pay all that dam money for the same shit that been out since 2015 I’ll rather buy the new vette or just buy the new mustang facts
If I’m going to pay 100k for a car I don’t want to always think, am I going to get car jacked, is my car going to be outside when I come back to it, I can’t leave it parked outside for any length of time, is someone going to kill me for my car.
@@1st_Gen_Lifethat’s true man that’s stressful own two build classic silverados and here in Texas the steal them everyday so I don’t even drive them because I’m afraid they going to get stolen plus there so easy to steal even with a kill switch
This right here! I settled for a 5.7 Hemi 300 cause I didnt want to take the chance of if I get a 6.4 getting stolen.
This!
I’m a truck driver, freight volumes are down, it’s not just cars but the inflation is crazy, the cost of living is crazy, so folks out here prioritizing keeping a roof over their head. Everything has gone up besides Pay
Even pus also 😂
Welcome to Democrat clown world!
We just have to survive long enough to kick the new regime off the White House next elections.
@@mikeprice8307 So it's not 40 no more, oh the humanity 😂😂
@@TGT2012 I entered the game 8 years ago and never experienced that
Guys, don't let anyone talk you into buying a car that's too expensive for your budget! We....don't have a problem! Dodge....has a problem! Never be thirsty to get a car!!
People can’t afford them ! The future is not petrol cars that burn gas like there is no tomorrow.
Agree, I wouldn't finance anything more than basic transportation. Anything that fits in the "fun" category is wait until enough cash is saved before buying. Interest rates are irrelevant when you save for a few years to buy what you want.
@@BrianNC81perfect time to negotiate BELOW MSRP. I have never paid MSRP ! Then make her a garage queen so it doesn’t get stolen.
Well said! 💪🏽
I agree. Good advice.
the problem is no one wants to have to worry 24/7 about their car getting stolen or lose their life over the car.
Exactly bro! LOL
True story
My wife got me a scat and i made her exchange it for a lexus rx450.I don’t want any one stealing my car or want to be classed as a hoodlum.
@@kellyd1910it aint hood ma nigga its just car💯💯
@@ThatBoy1of1 a car that will get you targeted by hoodlums and classed as one for owning it.
Dealer greed has finally started to catch up to them. That coupled with ridiculous interest rates , inflation and significantly tighter lending standards by pretty much every lending institutions. People are fed up with dodge dealer greed mark ups and have lost interest too .
Exactly.
Facts!!!
also thier bullshit add ons..
It’s not just dodge they marking up every new car now
I could get one but I live Atlanta and don't wanna be a target by a certain demographic. Literally not even worth the hassle.
😂😂😂😂😂
People don’t want a car that your life is in jeopardy for
Fr.
Facts 🫡
So true : he did not address that topic though did he : people being car jacked for a American car that’s overpriced by 10,000
4 reasons:
1) Interest Rates too high.
2)Gas prices too high.
3) People are pissed with dealers for the markups and abuses of last year, now is Payback time…they lost the trust of customers.
4)All fads come to an End…some people will always like this car, but the craziness 0:04 of the Mopar Fad will start to fade with time…
Don't forget insurance
Rite if ya credit ain't A1 probably looking at high interest rate on top of at least a $800-1000 Car Payment
Insurance tires oil changes
And then you gotta Keep ya Glock loaded while ya pump ⛽️ smh 🤦🏿
You forgot theft..people fearing driving these cars
When scats come back down to 43K, I'll think about buying one.
that’s the true price 40k
Lmao that’s the price I bought mine in 2020 brand newwwwwwww msrp
Or that GT350 better yet that GT500 or why not a ZL1-1LE?
Just go used or swap
I bought mines in 2018 for 43k fully loaded except a sunroof the base version was 36k at that time out the door the same base one they want 45k for now shit crazy u can’t tell a difference from 18 to 23 years and they want that 10k over msrp for base ones and 20 to 25k for scats and cats in Arizona
The hood ruined having a Hellcat. Had to sell mine. In love with my M3 😍
CZcams and thieves ruined it. Im not paying 90k for a car that is easy to steal and makes me a target in every major city
Same here
W taste
Same shi I did.Base model scat was making me paranoid bout thieves
Now you hood dudes will ruin M3’s.
Three months ago I tried very hard to order a widebody and the dealer wanted an egregious markup. I refuse(d) to pay over sticker because I knew it was only a matter of time before the lots were full of cars that other buyers wouldn't pay the markup for. So I purchased a different brand and so Dodge, you lose... They are getting what they deserve.
I can't wait until December and these greedy ass dealers realize their own greed stuck them with thousands of 2023 models on their lots that Dodge isn't producing anymore
Yep these dealers are taking advantage of the people I don’t care if they go bankrupt I’ll go pay cash for something at a discount
It’s not Dodge tho, it’s the dealerships
@@stephenmartin5766it's still dodge though. Dodge dealerships
Rappers played a huge part in making them as popular as they are now and most rap fans are either from the hood or still in the hood, so now you got a bunch a people that want them but none of those people can actually afford one
So they steal one
Dodge over-produced and the dealers are committed to not budging off their price. This is the natural result.
@@ZAKU-GD 80 k
Maybe one of the dealers will do the Lambrecht Chevrolet thing, and move em off to some remote, rural field. In about 30 or 40 years, after the elements work them over, and the vandals and thieves had their turn at them, the retired dealer or his estate will have them auctioned off to gullible nostalgic suckers. 🙄
I’m a big fan of the scat pack and the hellcat. I’m not really a Dodge guy, but I would buy one all day. Problem is,I don’t want it to get stolen.
Facts: that’s the problem he didn’t address!!!!!
Nobody is gonna pay 120k for cat, 75k for scat, & 55k for an r/. These prices are going to crash when the e-muscle take over
I'm interested to see where the e-muscle cars go.
Don't think they'll be very popular imo unless they are batshit insane performance-wise.
Still can't make that hemi sound though
E vehicles are a scam.
E muscle will never takeover lol…only reason the prices are up is cause it’s supposed to be the last call
@@NavJaswalthe world isn’t ready for e cars considering there aren’t a lot of charging stations, and you have to own or rent a house to have your own charging station.
E muscles are not taking over v8s most muscle car owners are petrol heads including myself and are not buying E muscles.
It’s the interest rates for me. Can’t imagine spending Hellcat money on a Scat.
Exactly why I went the used route on my 🐈, Scat ain’t even got 200 on the dash 😤
Word
@@livinglife3230who cares what’s on the dash, 8% interest and dealer markup ain’t worth the dollars now a days for a Dodge.
@@169abr I never been a fan of Scats, more than jus that reason. The power is too close to my camaro SS. For sum reason they are louder than my Hellcat. And yeah the c8 I got coming next month ain’t got 200 on the dash, jus gonna have to live wit it, lol
@@livinglife3230 true true, Scats louder cause of compression ratio bein higher on an NA motor than a boosted motor. Sounds like you got a whole world of cars man, good shit.
#1 reason: economy cratering and interest rates rising. #2 reason: people don't want to be targeted by carjacking thugs.
Hmm, I would put targeted by carjacking thugs first-lol!
#3 They aren't worth the price.
@@tri3pleagentright! They look and sound good but imo Overhyped ahh dodge
The insurance if you are young (the people who want these) is extremely expensive.
@@jonathantaylor6926Exactly, I’m looking to get one, but it’s probably gonna have to wait for a few years because the last thing I need is to be that guy who is complaining every time I fill it up.
I’m waiting until December when these dealers are really hungry, and will get a scat pack for 45k or less
Same
29k
These dealerships are about to find out a new scat is not worth 70k and new hellcat damn ain't worth 90-100k. Rocky times are ahead in the US economy
Nope! It's the criminals.
It’s both
Thank the Biden regime for today’s economy.
@@Oliver-ft2fqtrump was already setting it up for failure lol, he evaded taxes and stole all his money and ran
And the koolaid is gone 😅
It has a lot to do with the interest rate these banks are asking along with everything you said in this video some banks are asking 8% interest rate on an 800 credit score and if you have a 650 750 credit score some banks are asking 22%. That is insane. They’re gonna be stuck with all these cars.
Facts!!!
That's crazy to me bc most banks in my area quote me 7%-10% and my credit score is somewhere in the high 600s or low 700s
@@drewthomas462 it won’t be if you keep checking it
@@JaycorC. that is not necessarily true. If you have the cash to buy the car you can invest that cash somewhere else and it makes you money. as opposed to sinking it in a $90,000 car that’s not gonna make you anything .you pay the payments and when you’re done with it, you either get rid of it or you trade it in. Meanwhile, your cash is making you more money other ways
@@drewthomas462that’s still too damn high for a $90,000 car
The high price, interest and over all inflation of everything has a lot to do with it. The culture associated with these cars is also taking a toll. People don’t want to always worried about it being stolen or being carjacked. They are now associated with being ghetto fabulous and really aren’t respected outside of the mopar community. I got rid of mine and bought a c7 Grandsport and couldn’t be happier.
The outrageous amount of price even used. So no thanks , they created a fake demand go ahead and keep it ~ my business isn’t going back to a dealer ship for a long long time ~ when I was ready to buy they tried to sell me the highest price they could, hey you know what here’s a big F__K you.
That what I should have gotten before i got my hellcat challenger im regretting it now
Got me a last call 345 charger b5 blue brand new for 52000 couldn't be happier don't need a scat or cat I don't race
@@rgl9649 52000 is CRAZY for an R/T, I saw a 17 Daytona for 23k. Just curious would you by a 17 or do you have to have the latest model
I got rid of my Scatpack too for 5.0
The higher prices mixed with the higher interest rates have made these cars no longer affordable to the average person anymore. Us finding out dodge is bringing back the Trx and hellcat Durango have left alot of people waiting to see what really is happening with the hemi cars. People were only buying the last call models due to fomo
Exactly. even if the prices match a house the lending and subsequent interest is the issue. Dodge is bragging about 8% rates on their website. So let’s say On an 80k car @ msrp that is literally 7-800 dollars of hidden interest per month - ON TOP of your normal payment - which equates to that 8% or 10k annual. Let’s just say someone is SMART and has a trade in, where you’ve actually paid tax on the difference (so in a smaller amount) it is indeed foolish right now. Most people were put off because they weren’t even in the same tier of vehicle. Now Supply has caught up but demand is slow to kick back up. Wonder why that is. Maybe all These dealers can do is wait on unknowledgeable first time buyers?? Or …Maybe there isn’t any issue and this is all internet hype -- let’s discuss financing vs cash down… your rate never really mattered much whether you paid more cash down by a few thousand than if you didn’t. Facts.
Nobody wants the headache of getting their brand new car stolen within a month and pay a mark up on top of that with the crazy interest rates of today.
They’ll be gone before you even know it once they are priced right. The demand is there but not with dealers gouging prices. Thanks for posting knockout 360.
scat packs going for more than my zl1. cmon man.
these dealers thought this market was going to last forever. i hope they have to give them away. they made their money. now its time to give some back.
I'm personally so glad to finally read on a publis forum, where people are finally telling the true story behind where Dodge/Mopar is heading. I have been loyal to the brand for many years. Dodge and Ram have always been my first consideration when thinking about a new or used vehicle. I recently sold my 2016 Challenger SRT 392 mainly because I didn't feel comfortable parking it anywhere for any extended amount of time. The "HOOD", and everyone knows who I'm referring to, has all but ruined the Mopar scene. The justice system has fallen flat on it's face. The criminals are taking over the driver's seat and the "Chrysler" brand, may it R.I.P. will never be the same.
Well spoken !!! He didn’t want to talk about that !! That’s why half of the used dodge’s have Salvaged Titles : from being stolen
Actually they aren’t selling because indeed there are still markups out there. CZcamsr OC Motivator recently put up a video of a live call with a salesman from a Dodge dealership that was asking for a $40k markup on the Hellcats. Also! The banks aren’t being as lenient with lending due to the fact that lots of people are defaulting on their loans. The loans that the banks approved on marked up vehicles. I’m glad that this is blowing up in their face.
The dealers tried to charge me a 20k mark up
I wanted one until I saw I could get a stinger GT for less of they're price and still keep up with scats 😅
70k plus for a non Jeep or Durango srt - in other words hellcat has hidden interest of appx 200 per month even if your rate is 4%. That’s why it’s bullshit. The dealers are preying on first time buyers who haven’t done the math perhaps? 8% as broadcasted on dodge website for a scat pack financed works out to be over 700 dollars a month hidden interest - ON TOP OF YOUR dealer agreed upon rate - to equate to close to 8k per year if 8% (of a 80k car)
@@jahmarimartin2333but American muscle RAHHHHH🦅🦅🦅
@@opsus2546 a mazda rx8 sounds better to me than an american muscle it go BRAP!
He said “here we go another one for $92,000 waiting for you”…..Lmaooooo
I ain’t got it like that bruh lol
My brother just bought a used 2023 corvette stingray with 1200 miles and paid $98,000. Those hellcat prices are too damn high
That’s super marked up
thats too damn high too lmfao
@@DRWP10right😂
And that's too high. Used 1LTs start around 68k. 2LT 79K and up.
He got finesse he super overpaid
The last calls don't mean SH!T the interest rates are so bad. The Dealerships will have to start dropping the price like they did in 2008. Just so they can made the interest rate not so bad for a payment!!! The Mopar '23 is the only number car for collector value. The other 7 limited number cars are just a car just a limited number of them. Just different badges and a limited number made. I bought a Mopar '19 and I hate what I pay in interest a month I should not of bought it!!!
Prices are coming down....most people cant get approved for the financing....even with good credit and income, banks aren't financing if the customer doesn't show a history of spending high amounts for cars....also interest rates are through the roof....I got my redeye in 2020 and I was lucky..... got it below msrp fully loaded...I couldn't afford the asking prices now
I have a 2016 Charger RT paid off for.
I did the math last time I was at the dealer just for shits and giggles, I would have to fork out now a days with a 7% interest rate, $7,000 down, good credit score and 72 months financing my payment would be $850 a month.
When I purchased my car in 2016, I put 7K down, 1.9% interest 72 month financing and I only paid $450 a month!
Drastic difference with the interest rates!
You are 100% right the high prices and high interest rates keep me out of the market for any new car
Me too, exactly.
The price is one thing. Theft is the other, and the cost of fuel as well. Many people are struggling.
The people wise up, sometimes is too much problems to own a charger or a hellcat also, I think that if we hold off longer the prices will be better for the whole
Sorry you guys got into Mopar so late in the game. I got my scat brand new for 40k even when they came out and a hellcat for around 60k in the end of their second year. We did not have wide bodys and Demons, but they are really screwing you over now. We also did not have the high insurance and people stealing them so often in 2017. When covid came, I sold both for the price I paid for them enjoyed for 3 years and got out lol.
u gawt damn right. used 392 widebody with these interest rates is 70k plus out the door!! fk em
The interest rates are too high. I have a 720 credit and am paying 9 percent interest on my M5 when I'm used to paying 5% or below interest.
Nobody trying deal with they car being stolen or trying get robbed
Another factor is the apr% is very high
1000+ dollar car payments for 84+ months with intewt then you gotta take into account the high insurance just because of the fact it's stolen so much. People can't afford them.
State Farm went up on my 🐈 for that reason, my camaro didn’t see any increase
Dealership markups are insane, Just for you to buy a hellcat or scat pack just to be at high risk for it to be stolen at any moment's notice. Its not worth it. Its guys that would rob a hellcat or scatpack over a benz or Lambo. Not to mention dudes killing you over YOUR hellcat or scat pack.
The word is out that these cars make you a target
The price is not just the problem they get stolen so easily
In 2019 I saw on different sites scats with rally stripes cloth interior around $38k. Now it’s $60k or better.
I knew I wasn't crazy. I thought they were priced that low around covid or pre covid times
@@myron1045 I was looking at one I was interested in at a dealership online in Va. Around that time they were coming out with the widebody.
also, alot of these large dealers buy these cars on credit...so they cannot afford to have these cars sit forever because they have to make the payments and pay interest etc
Was that hellcat @2:10 marked at 92k ??? I mean…that would probably be the reason it’s just sitting there 🤷🏻♂️
Yup. They’re gonna learn the hard way that they ain’t selling a Dodge for performance luxury vehicles price.
That's actually reasonable for the trim, 70k for a scatpack is what's outrageous. You see, when hellcats first dropped they were at the 70k mark, then prices bumped up just a bit before the widebody came out which was around 80k+ a little extra (without any customization) a 10k bump up isn't really that much if you have the money. It's funny how people say 90k for a hellcat is too much but people will be willing to pay double that for a supra. No hate at all, it just doesn't make any sense to me. Do you see BMW prices? I mean I get they're sports/luxury cars but some of their trims are NOT worth ANYTHING above 60k and yet you see them above that by at least 7,000-10,000 and people are still willing to buy them. I'm not defending dodge, I'm just saying that right now, since the dealers are dumbing the prices down by so much... why don't the people take advantage? I'm trying to make as much sense as possible without starting a senseless war about something so ridiculously stupid.
I have seen that hellcat owner on a street corner selling pencils with a sign reading hellcat owner please help.
Maybe if dodge made them a tad more difficult to steal them out of your driveway sales might actually go back up
Say it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
It’s because the typical buyer of these cars is no longer getting approved for $0 down and $2000/mo at 30% interest 😂😂😂. People that can get approved and actually afford these cars, don’t want these pieces of junk.
I Purchased a 2016 hellcat charger and a 2016 hellcat challenger back in 2017. They were leftovers. Nobody wanted these cars. There were thousands of these leftovers nationwide at that time. I walked into the dealership and walked out with both. Both sticker over $72,000 and got them for a little over $53,000 each. even at that price in 2017 they were expensive but worth the money to me. Now fast forward to 2023 and these things are stickering roughly $25,000 more than they did in 2016/2017 yet it’s the same exact car. It is a dinosaur on the market. There is a reason why they were discontinued. They just can’t compete anymore. Lots of horsepower but no finesse. It’s finished!!! Just hang tight, between MSRP mark ups, dealer, incentives, and manufactures incentives. These vehicles will be dropping about $20,000 to get them off dealership grounds. I honestly don’t even think $20,000 is going to cut it at the moment to get them off the grounds. No one likes to read yesterday‘s news. It’s always about what’s new and these cars are still running on 1970s underpinnings. Ridiculous!!!! I think it’s still a good looking car, but I sure as hell won’t pay over $70,000 for a fully loaded hellcat. GT500 and Corvette killed Dodge! They built a vehicle that works both for track and street use and they are serious machines. Horsepower is not everything.!!! Add a recession/depression into the mix and it’s total disaster. This guy on the video seems to be under the age of 30 and probably hasn’t had to live/work through a recession. He probably won’t even have a job at this dealership in the next two months so no need to worry about selling any Dodge vehicles.
The prices of these cars are ridiculious...hard PASS. I've been looking at RT's and Scat's for the past year and I aint paying that money for a dodge. I will keep puttering around in my little moded GT. lol
i really wanted one of them chargers but then realized they get stolen often, i don’t want to be paranoid owning one of those cars can’t even drive them nowhere or get gunned down
Fr the challengers is safer anyways but not by that much
i cant wait to see the resale value on these cars in 5 years its going to be sweet poetic justice.
Very true. Because you really don't see 2011-14 Charger body style on the road much these days.
@@Mr_57ChargerRTshit I do I see em everywhere in cali…you see all chargers really 05 and up
Yep add any salt to the mix and they age like milk
They are going to all be beat to fuck haha
@@taino1642The milk in my fridge is already three days old and it's still like fine wine
No car is worth putting your life in jeopardy for. The over saturation of the brand made it the “go to” brand for black market parts and takeover fanatics. You’re better off building something original with a 🔥🔥motor
Rt Scat pack msrp in 2020 was 40k its 49k today. Thats insane. 9k more in less then 3 years?? This is why I am buying used. There on crack with these prices.
Is that where we are at with buying new cars at sticker!!!!! I Remember a time where buying a car at sticker was a fool thing to do..
I’m a Mopar fan and currently have an RT but I’ve seriously been considering about switching to a Camaro SS
Knew I wasn’t the only although I don’t have an rt or any dodge vehicle if I had the money I’m going for a zl1 or any ss as beautiful as those cars is. It just isn’t worth it
@@hoodieap2858 I believe Camaros are cheaper to own too
I got rid of my hellcat for a brand new 23 zl1 Camaro. Got sick & tired of those greedy stupid dealerships trying to get me to pay those ridiculous prices for a widebody hellcat. Don't be scared to jump to the next brand. Ive been with dodge since 2007.
ZL1 or SS or a used 10 Speed GT
If you won't miss having room for 3 passengers instead of 1, I'd do it.
Just wait til Jan/Feb. Dealers will be going door to door.
They got more that’s on extended inventory lots too. Gas prices are looking to only go up, people are stealing these in broad daylight, insurance high af for these, and data is showing they’re dropping in value and not that special for the high price tag. Inflation is crazy for just a loaf of bread, and people know major job cuts are already happening, that’s why these cars are still on the lot.
We about to make everyone who voted for Biden pay the price. Everyone of them officially owes all of us non biden voters reparations totaling 10 percent of there annual income per voter. We will put all that money in a pool and split it up with all the people with brains that did not vote for Biden. We went from Balling like Trump to looking like Broke Chumps under Hiden Biden. Sheep. What you clowns got to say now????????? CRICKETS. Pay up now suckers. I aint playing with you Biden voters. You owe us. not negotiable.
So basically all you mentioned is the Biden’s regime fault.
Gas prices just went down what u on about
@@ONKINGDAVID like what like 5 cents Biden apologist ? I don’t know where you live but prices are only rising.
@@Oliver-ft2fq im in cali and it’s Down to 5.29 over here cost 45 to fill my tank up and idc about no Biden lol
I turned away from dealerships over markups and never went back
I want a Camaro ss now scatpacks and hellcats nice as hell but ain’t worth it. It’s not just the pricing but all the attention it gets from the good kind and bad. I can’t even imagine having a hellcat honestly. Having to worry about people trying to steal your car or kill you to get yo car. The insurance, gas and repairs. It’s just a pass at this point for most people.
They'll go to prison.
And a Camaro SS isn’t costly on insurance and gas etc?
I’ll say this, Monday I took delivery of my 23 300C 392 - Love the car - Dealership had a Blue TRX Level 2 on the showroom - they would not budge from 10K over MSRP - I got balsy and took 4K less than MSRP created a total with tax and they would not take the deal - I was trying to take both the 300 and TRX with me - while they kept saying they can’t do the deal that damn truck sold for 10K over sticker while I was there
they gonna need to go under MSRP.
interest are to high for middle class and lower
It’s because interest rates are up 3.5x what it was just over a year ago and all the people that couldn’t afford them before cant even get financing anymore for one. I’ve seen Scats, Scats, Hellcats, Jailbreaks all of them for 8k under MSRP on the lot for 150-200 days. Owning one of these is a financial mistake for sure…
The main reason aside from these prices... these cars are dangerous to have and own!
Performance cars are just not affordable these days most people can’t handle a super high payment when the cost of living is already kicking our ass.
High prices, high gas prices, markups, and theft are discouraging buyers from purchases.
Im a car salesman. People want them but they not making the money or have the credit and downpayment they need to make it affordable.
Of course people want them. It’s just the way the word is going would someone waste money on buy a depreciating object or save money and be more responsible with there money and the end of the day it’s a car that’s gets you to Point A to Point B like any other car
Its not just dodge. This is the tech effect, they put all that unecessary bs on cars and they become unaffordable.
Maybe if they take the damn mark ups off they'd sell
MARK UP $$$ IS THE COST OF A WELL PREPED CAMARO RS WITH THE LT1 PACKAGE. .. REALLY.. 40K MARKUP FOR A DODGE.OR 40K FOR A NEW CORVETTE POWERED CAMARO
The marking up had consequences it seems.
I bought a WRX during the pandemic for under MSRP. Subaru wasn’t allowing dealers to hike prices is my understanding.
The marking up I heard about on all Fords was crazy. Some imports like Type R or GR Corolla have it too, but it seemed like it was to specific speciality models.
Been seeing a lot of nice 5.7 supercharged builds getting 700-800HP
My neighbor just built the ever livin daylights out of his 5.7
Dynoed at 1200hp❤
Was looking at a Scatpack, saw the price and ran to the BMW dealer and brought a M3 competition, loving it.
Thieves and price combination killed that
(Hey I have something special for you Bro)❤️
Nice comment🤟
Hey Dodge, make the Hell Cat 70K and the Scat 45k and watch those lots clear out. Hell, I might go pick one up and stick it in my back pocket. No bank is going to finance those cars at THOSE prices. Take the L for 2023 and get rid of them. I mean wtf are they going to do if nobody buys them...ever?? Gas prices are down right now, so this would've been a great time to do some drastic price cuts. They also predict an early winter this year, so that doesnt help all that rear wheel power either. Might just be a trendy car thats not trending anymore.
Probably becausece even at "MSRP" the price is still inflated significantly plus the chances of getting robbed or shot over one of these out weighs the benefit if you want to call it that....of owning these cars to most people.
Like alot of comments saying dont get greedy. I was patient waited kept my eye out. Got my 2017 bright white. Manual hellcat 13,000 miles. Good carfax. 54k of the lott. Still got screen shots to prove. Had zero issues with it. I wouldnt pay these prices now days. I paid 20k less almost for what they chargeing for scatpack is insane. Blows my mind the prices people were paying for this now and in near past
I Truly Believe That A Majority Of People Are Just Burnt Out On The Cat & Scat! You Still Have People Who Are Fascinated With The Beast, But Just Can’t Afford Them🤔
High interest rates
High gas prices
Dealer markups
Not too mention criminals and thugs targeting the cars...
It isn't rocket science
Ay good for me, I’m boutta turn 17 gimme sum time to get one brand new 😂
MSRP is markup now, Hellcats used to be 60-70k MSRP now it’s 90k.. people are not fooled.. these cars are not worth that much.
People are done paying MSRP. Hellcats in DC area are now under MSRP
My dealership that I bought my Scat want $137k for a Hellcat. $73k for Widebody Scat. I paid $50k for my Scat Challenger in 2021 brand new
Buyers have come to their senses. Buyers are telling dealers to suck it on mark ups. Interest rates are simply crazy for loans. Also, used car values on these cars is dropping. One is automatically upside down by $10k just or more if you simply buy at MSRP.
They’re all 20,000 to high, nobody can afford them anymore.
Human nature .. Whenever something is rare and scarced everybody wants it , if it's easy to get it becomes less desirable.. Just like the pretty baddie on your block , if She's hard to get everyone wants her , but if she becomes accessible to everyone to get then She's less desirable ...
Everybody is buying used because it makes sense financially. Yesterday I flew from louisiana to Ohio and bought a 2012 Chrysler 300 completely 100% 2021 scat pack 392 swapped with 11k miles for 16k cash. It made sense! Couldn’t pass it up. Booked a flight at midnight and was at the airport at 3am to be at dude by lunch.
As much as I would love to trade in my rt and upgrade to a scat I've already looked into it. Just can't afford it like a lot of people now.
Man me too ! I’m not paying 800+ a month not including insurance
It’s only 20 plus mph on the dash not really nothing to go crazy over just swap it for a 6.1 and do ur thang
I had one, 2020 5.7 Charger, Octane Red, I LOVED that car.... there is a lot to hate about it too... 1. EVERY TIME I drive it, some 'homey' in another Charger, or Camaro WANT TO RACE ME.... even just to the grocery store. and forget about ever getting on the freeway, especially after dark, the Chargers distinctive tail lights, get homey coming out of the woodwork. 2. CAR THEIFT.... One attempt theft on my car... It just isn't worth it. Im not going to risk my life owning one of these cars. FANTASTIC CAR... BEST car Ive even owned... Better than any Corvette or Porsche Ive owned... Not worth my life though.
HEAR ME OUT. Check this out, this is the real reason why. Look at the main demographics for 392/Hellcats. It's the same demographic for those who took advantage of the eviction-free program as well as the student loans. They had the extra money so they bought a Hellcat/Scat plus the markups. Now that we have to pay for rent and/or student loans, those "customers" are gone.
As for the other % who can afford a 90k+ car, they are getting the Gt500s, Tesla Plaids, used 911s, etc. The real ULTIMATE sports cars. Believe it or not, that's the real reason.
The problem is that unless you’re a big baller shot caller, you end up with a $1200 a month car payment maybe more. Gas, insurance, tires, and now you’re paying $2000 plus a month for it.
It just makes sense to wait, i’ve been looking at a scat pack for 3 YEARS & the price has gone up & up & up when it was at its peak only to see it fall down, down, down & im content with just waiting for dealerships to come back to earth after being so sky high with the demand screeching to a halt
That's exactly what I paid for my 2020 Scat Pack $47k. The only way I would but a new Scat or hellcat is for MSRP price only....and even that is too much 😅
Even here in New Orleans where there is a huge following for them they are sitting on the lots. Even SXT’s and R/T’s are sitting. I think the cars have run their course. Same cars for years now. Everyone who wanted one has got one by now. It’s time for different cars.
Yup 👍 the hype is finally dying
Nah the hype ain’t dying just the prices crazy and ion think it’s gonna go down soon since it’s supposed to be last call….now if continue to make them it’ll go down
@@ONKINGDAVID I’m just tired of seeing these dodges. We’re over saturated with them. We need sum different
@@nft200yearsago8 then don’t look at them lol people like what they like and mopars just so fire….a lot people have different cars lol clearly u like mopar
@@ONKINGDAVID I love mopars bro don’t get me wrong. Been loving dodge since I was a kid but you gotta admit the hellcats & scats are played out!! I just wish we had different varieties of them and not the same shi
A lot of dealers aren’t putting the markups on the site and when you call in they throw it into the deal like a “forgot to mention”. Hold steady and do not buy this crap. The prices will come down. Let them keep hurting
Car market overall is tanking. I drove past an Acura dealership loaded with TLX and MDX type s models that have been there for months. Supras that were 60k a year ago going for 40’s now allllllll day.
One big issue is the banks aren’t giving loans on them. And the insurance on them has skyrocketed.
I remember walking into a dodge dealership in 2018 they were offering a DEMON for 78k and a hellcat for 65k make mopar cheap again
Damn you should’ve bought that demon
@@emerydavis.imagine 😅
@@emerydavis. I was 12 at the time I wish I could
To be honest, I used to be a heavy dodge man but at the same time I can't see myself paying 100,000 for a dodge. With that amount I will just go get a 911 turbo s. That is part of the problem, the next problem is who can pay 1500 a month for a car right now?
Wait it out! Never be in a rush to buy. There will always be another car😂
Trouble selling $70,000 cars that get 15 mpg? How can that be?? I can't figure it out.