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  • čas přidán 22. 04. 2024
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  • @blacktuxwidow4318
    @blacktuxwidow4318 Před měsícem +1444

    like this if you are not going to buy the bundle (1 like = -25€ for blizzard)

    • @xelery086
      @xelery086 Před měsícem +3

      This has 300 likes so -7500€ for blizzard

    • @user-el4qj7rq2l
      @user-el4qj7rq2l Před měsícem +2

      This loss means absolutely nothing to Blizzard 😂

    • @whereheattho
      @whereheattho Před měsícem +2

      i bought the catboy emote 😔

    • @SoggyMistake
      @SoggyMistake Před měsícem

      I legitimately hate how monetized this game has become.

    • @brunoob1557
      @brunoob1557 Před měsícem +1

      I dont even use ow2 coins
      I have not spent a single penny from where i started to play
      I have held my coins and now i have about 1,800 or 1,900 ow2 coins 😂 gonna get to 2k soon

  • @shafikkrisoondatt4002
    @shafikkrisoondatt4002 Před měsícem +158

    The fact they Nerfed Hanzo because he was "Frustrating" while characters like Mei and Sombra who by the way keeps getting buffed exists is wild to me

    • @justinr291
      @justinr291 Před měsícem +10

      Or Venture, who can 1 shot combo you in like .5 seconds. (Okay maybe not that fast, but still super fast Time to Kill) on a character that generates shields, becomes invulnerable, and does splash damage.

    • @shafikkrisoondatt4002
      @shafikkrisoondatt4002 Před měsícem +7

      @@justinr291 yeah overwatch needs to be more consistent either take away one shots in general or give Hanzo back his one shot

    • @extramentos6448
      @extramentos6448 Před měsícem +2

      @@justinr291 also without headshot requirement and a x4 bigger hitbox than hanzo dont forget that

    • @NeroGlitched
      @NeroGlitched Před měsícem +2

      ​@justinr291 doesnt ventures one shot ability uses its entire kit? Kinda like doomfist ?

    • @justinr291
      @justinr291 Před měsícem +3

      @@NeroGlitched Kind of, but timed decently it's easy to execute and get out before you can get punished to severely due to the short CD on their abilities and the over shielding simply by USING an ability, not even hitting it... just using it. Doomfist at least had to HIT. So yeah, decent Ventures can one shot your backline and get out to do it again. Sure the sucky ones will still suck, but the same can be said for Hanzo players... and then we can talk about the displacement capability Venture has.... which was supposed to be removed from the DPS class and shifted to Tanks/Supports to limit CC and Loss of Control.
      Time to Kill for some heroes is insane given their other mechanics that are frustrating. So the Idea that an Arrow to the head wont one shot squishy targets just because it was 'frustrating' for people is silly. Blizzard's balance has gotten worse and worse and they don't even have a clue what to do anymore.

  • @Senior_Pink
    @Senior_Pink Před měsícem +391

    What have they done to my goat hanzo 😞

    • @victorfromm9355
      @victorfromm9355 Před měsícem +3

      Everything ever

    • @Htiy
      @Htiy Před měsícem +19

      I want the one shot back with smaller projectile size 😢 is that too much to ask

    • @GouShin1
      @GouShin1 Před měsícem +2

      he was murdered...

    • @kja1217
      @kja1217 Před měsícem

      they massacred our boy 😓

    • @happybuggy1582
      @happybuggy1582 Před měsícem +1

      Low pick rate will tell them to patch it

  • @Hsjackow
    @Hsjackow Před měsícem +489

    Thank you so much for speaking out on behave of the hanzo mains, the changes made to hanzo was criminal and no one was even talking about these changes for the past months. Maybe it's possible to make a video about why the changes for hanzo are so bad so that more players who don't play hanzo could also understand? Nevertheless, you have my support Arrge and please keep speaking out about this issue.

    • @Forra_10
      @Forra_10 Před měsícem +8

      Fr all the people that say it isn't that bad DONT PLAY HIM AT ALLLLLLLLLLLL

    • @Hsjackow
      @Hsjackow Před měsícem +4

      @@Forra_10 That and the spamzo players who never really understood how the hero should be played. Mainly, I just hate how no way is talking about the changes, I'm glad that Arrge made this video.

    • @Forra_10
      @Forra_10 Před měsícem

      @@Hsjackow dude that reminds me when i was in a game once I typed in chat "if only hanzo could still one shot" and somone replied with "he can?" like I'm just now realizing how crazy that actually is

    • @Hsjackow
      @Hsjackow Před měsícem +2

      @@Forra_10 I know right, I was watching ML7's season 10 tier list the other day. He said hanzo was struggling and need help, but he thinks hanzo shouldn't get the one shot back and he doesn't know where else to buff him. This is crazy to me because I'm sure he knows that hanzo just needs to one shot back to be viable again, he was fine before season 9. However, even someone as good as ML7 won't admit that hanzo needs the one shot back. This makes me think that people already knows what he needs, but are just denying it.

    • @Forra_10
      @Forra_10 Před měsícem +3

      @@Hsjackow hmm makes me think that we're(hanzo mains)like a long lost tribe or something when flats made his season 9 tier list and was first reading the changes he said and I quote "I thought hanzo was struggling" then proceeded to not say anything on the matter and just went thru the changes, I wish I could see hero statistics, like see how much of the population plays this hero compared to that one cuz I'm starting to think barley anyone plays hanzo

  • @BigChungusOFG
    @BigChungusOFG Před měsícem +106

    Getting dopamine out of playing Hanzo was one of my only reasons for still playing the game just to have tooken a break for midterms and came back to see him in such a state

    • @HammerHead-yx5dy
      @HammerHead-yx5dy Před měsícem +1

      I used to love Hanzo because of the satisfaction from hitting a headshot, now i have to play widow if i want to actually snipe someone

  • @nohoescarlos
    @nohoescarlos Před měsícem +250

    Hanzo losing his one shot really killed ow for me :( My fav is just never worth playing anymore :(

    • @Cushingura
      @Cushingura Před měsícem +8

      I also stopped playing Overwatch.
      BF5 got rid of the cheater problem just in time.
      When you wan't to try snipers with bullet velocity and bullet drop, try BF5. Really fun to play and nice community.

    • @YungYdoc
      @YungYdoc Před měsícem +5

      I was about to stream for the first time and decided to have fun with Hanzo but this is such tragic news, there's no point in playing.

    • @B00DYCH33KZ
      @B00DYCH33KZ Před měsícem +6

      womp womp

    • @YungYdoc
      @YungYdoc Před měsícem +4

      @@B00DYCH33KZ Right? Another poor sport coming in late to the streaming abyss. Been gaming on PC since 95. If only we all knew.

    • @GAVIN760101
      @GAVIN760101 Před měsícem +2

      Me too, it's like his has the same face,but his soul is been replaced .

  • @Liquate
    @Liquate Před měsícem +156

    hanzo really needs to be fixed so bad... the lack of one-shotting as a sniper character is insane.

    • @HeroOrb
      @HeroOrb Před měsícem +8

      ong, my words each time I hit a headshot these days

    • @spacebutler7723
      @spacebutler7723 Před měsícem +1

      He's not a sniper 😊

    • @HeroOrb
      @HeroOrb Před měsícem +15

      @@spacebutler7723 but… he is?

    • @S0UPIE
      @S0UPIE Před měsícem +5

      ​​@@HeroOrb He's an archer, not a sniper. There are definitely ways for Hanzo to work without a one shot. As a comparison, Widow _is_ a sniper character (sharpshooter? Marksman? Markswoman?) and would definitely not work without a one shot and there is not a way to keep her identity without it.

    • @LiamSuarez
      @LiamSuarez Před měsícem +14

      ​@@S0UPIE He always has and always will be headshot focused and it's what is fun and satisfying

  • @E-namations-jr3pq
    @E-namations-jr3pq Před měsícem +130

    I am 100% onboard with this idea Arrge, I'm honestly tired of people disrespecting and hating on my boy Hanzo, I wouldn't count on it, but, hopefully Blizzard will take some recognition and finally listen, but don't give your hope up

  • @papabearjonez
    @papabearjonez Před měsícem +118

    Not being able to get a kill with a headshot as a sniper hero is absolutely disgusting. What’s even worse is seeing your target runaway with 10hp left or get healed instantly.
    To top things off, they kill you afterwards. Ain’t that just a slap in the face huh? 😪

    • @The_Tachmonite
      @The_Tachmonite Před měsícem +5

      Headshotting Genji only for him to activate deflect immediately is just wonderful.

    • @mateusqueiros3871
      @mateusqueiros3871 Před měsícem +3

      Maybe Hanzo shouldn’t be considered a sniper to begin with

    • @The_Tachmonite
      @The_Tachmonite Před měsícem +14

      @@mateusqueiros3871 right. He's just someone with a really slow rate of fire who is vulnerable at close range. /s

    • @slings7149
      @slings7149 Před měsícem

      Retarded logic ​@@mateusqueiros3871

    • @HammerHead-yx5dy
      @HammerHead-yx5dy Před měsícem +1

      Hitting an extremely hard heatshot that you were spamming to get just for the enemy to hide behind cover and fully regen their health, lovely. I used to like playing hanzo more than widow but now she’s the only sniper they didn’t take one shot away from. Hanzo now feels like you have to spam to kill something or get someone to pocket you

  • @Arrge
    @Arrge  Před měsícem +109

    If you want to help amplify the message: like, retweet and comment twitter.com/ArrgeOW/status/1782850456454066657

    • @AloneInTheDork
      @AloneInTheDork Před měsícem

      Will do. Hm...what's my Twitter password? First post ever coming up...😂

  • @Resjek
    @Resjek Před měsícem +35

    Hanzo was never a problem to deal with in Overwatch. Each character needs a leader like this protecting the community behind it.

    • @HammerHead-yx5dy
      @HammerHead-yx5dy Před měsícem +6

      People just love to complain about getting randomly headshot by a hanzo like other characters can’t accidentally shoot them and cause them to die. I feel like you die even more randomly now because he’s much more spam centered unless you have a pocket but good luck getting that

    • @muhammedtahir786
      @muhammedtahir786 Před měsícem +4

      @@HammerHead-yx5dy yeah like they wanted to make hanzo less spammy....by making him be more spammy now because you can't oneshot and have to shoot more into chokes

    • @BigGuy3200
      @BigGuy3200 Před měsícem +4

      @@muhammedtahir786Hanzo also doesn’t have any use if the enemies are smart with positioning. Get hit and back behind the corner so Ana can heal them.

    • @muhammedtahir786
      @muhammedtahir786 Před měsícem +2

      @@BigGuy3200 literally
      Was in a game where I hit like 3 headshots in a short period of time but what's the point when they get into cover before you can shoot again and they get healed back to full

    • @HammerHead-yx5dy
      @HammerHead-yx5dy Před měsícem +2

      @@BigGuy3200 it especially hurts when you actually hit a hard shot and now you or your team can’t finish them off because they hid

  • @KidouKenshi22
    @KidouKenshi22 Před měsícem +21

    THIS IS RIDICULOUS!! They talking about frustration, BUT widow one shot across the map easily and it every second freaking match there's a spawn camping sombra who t bags. So much about that

    • @MysticMicrowave
      @MysticMicrowave Před měsícem +1

      Maybe their vision was that there can't be a one-shot character who doesn't get absolutely decimated by Sombra.

    • @hihowareyou717
      @hihowareyou717 Před měsícem

      @@MysticMicrowavehanzo definitely does get decimated by sombra

    • @MysticMicrowave
      @MysticMicrowave Před měsícem +1

      @@hihowareyou717I don't think it would be that bad with 250hp buff in szn 9

  • @AntivenomOW
    @AntivenomOW Před měsícem +27

    I stopped maining Hanzo seasons ago, but I‘ve never been mad when a Hanzo "randomly" headshotted me, cause I know that it takes skill to hit that shot

    • @llllIlllIllI
      @llllIlllIllI Před měsícem +3

      I had my hanzo era where i only played hanzo for like a month and the amount of lucky shots i hit were insane, i also killed a invisible sombra twice while aiming for someone else lol, hanzo takes skill but you will get so many kills just being lucky and shooting your pointy logs into a random direction

    • @meat.
      @meat. Před měsícem +1

      this is a wild comment

    • @HammerHead-yx5dy
      @HammerHead-yx5dy Před měsícem

      @@llllIlllIllITrue but to fix that, why not simply make his projectile size smaller? I’ve gotten plenty of random/lucky headshots with widow but they don’t nerf her one shot potential

    • @llllIlllIllI
      @llllIlllIllI Před měsícem +1

      @@HammerHead-yx5dy dunno, blizzard sucks at balancing stuff

    • @danielnobre3265
      @danielnobre3265 Před měsícem +1

      No, he doesnt have skill, its a random shot

  • @Filozof____
    @Filozof____ Před měsícem +52

    widowmaker mains stands with you my dearest sniper friends!✊

    • @mentarium9741
      @mentarium9741 Před měsícem +9

      fr. we're here for every hanzo main

    • @MysticMicrowave
      @MysticMicrowave Před měsícem +7

      Agreed. Disgraceful what they've done to Hanzo.

    • @HammerHead-yx5dy
      @HammerHead-yx5dy Před měsícem +1

      Hanzo was my favorite sniper but widow is the only sniper that can one shot now. Barely touched hanzo once i saw the headshots weren’t one shot anymore. Sad to see what they’ve done and knowing Blizzard they probably won’t change it

    • @ItzJupiter
      @ItzJupiter Před měsícem +2

      I'm a tank main who plays dps a crap ton and in s6 I started maining hanzo/widow and ever since the hs changes I have only rlly played widow and ashe and tank

  • @GraveOW
    @GraveOW Před měsícem +25

    I've basically quit. They lost 2 battle pass purchases from me personally

    • @salladss
      @salladss Před měsícem +1

      yeah but some weirdo hermit bought a bundle and offset your loss to them

    • @Myselfsama
      @Myselfsama Před měsícem

      @@salladss lol true. Ive bought maybe 2~3 BPs this whole time, but I know people that have bought every single one + the skin bundles oof.

    • @AndreiJoji
      @AndreiJoji Před měsícem

      Blizzard: "lol k"

    • @Myselfsama
      @Myselfsama Před měsícem

      @@AndreiJoji exactly, sad state of things. for every person thats like, we should not buy this and actually sticks by it, theres like 10 whales that spend 100x that amount on the game.

  • @nic0856
    @nic0856 Před měsícem +15

    Every time I get into a ranked game and want to play hanzo, I just can't bring myself to do it, because he is just so bad right now, there is no way to secure kills with this character. I always end up switching to another dps. This is especially frustrating when you see the enemy team and think to yourself: "Hanzo would have been perfect against this comp before season 9". I am not saying give us 1 shot back if thats the big issue, but give us something, the character is just so bad right now.

    • @MrHideyHole
      @MrHideyHole Před měsícem

      You have to be the team's bitch and only focus on something someone else is already fighting - Hanzo lost all ability to perform the DPS role he was designed to fill as a mid range sniper skill shot champion.

  • @LuScLE
    @LuScLE Před měsícem +45

    I kept Overwatch 2 coins to buy a Hanzo shop skin, but I agree with everything what you said, either way the price for the skin is silly, they literally just added a new tattoo, a mask and dyed his hair white and you have to pay 19 dollars for that 😐 and I don't want to talk about the cringe emote

    • @ScarasRealLover
      @ScarasRealLover Před měsícem +4

      Same with the kiriko skin, shouldn’t be legendary..but the hanzo one is worse

    • @HeroOrb
      @HeroOrb Před měsícem +2

      @@ScarasRealLover dude, they done us dirty with the hanzo mythic

    • @howlingwolf644
      @howlingwolf644 Před měsícem

      If you care about games and gamers you are gonna delete that trash, god forsaken game that blizzard maganed to destroy beyond recognition and spitting in the face of every single player while doing so

    • @JINXED_00
      @JINXED_00 Před měsícem

      ​@@howlingwolf644 keep acting like ow is the only game who has this monetization, for years you all allowed this monetization and now you cry because ow implements it?

    • @howlingwolf644
      @howlingwolf644 Před měsícem

      @@JINXED_00 i dont care about monetization, i never even mentioned it. The state of the game was what I used to care about, and thats way worse than monetization.
      And no, I have not allowed that monetization since i have never ever bought anything but the game xD

  • @fatihthelastofus7261
    @fatihthelastofus7261 Před měsícem +10

    Honestly I'm a Cassidy main and they ruined Cass too as a hero and left him there with his bad grenade hinder ability. Taking his gun range for literally no reason. And didn't touch it for the past like 3 seasons.
    I used to play hanzo a lot when he one shoted but like if hanzo doesn't oneshot then widow shouldn't be able to oneshot as well. Especially while she's hitscan and hanzo not.
    The heroes just become more and more skilless. Thank you Blizzard.

    • @HammerHead-yx5dy
      @HammerHead-yx5dy Před měsícem +2

      Making these changes for more “casual” gameplay was so unbelievably stupid. I once played hanzo a lot, much more than widow. Since that one shot change happened i’ve barely touched him

  • @jamesmccree9532
    @jamesmccree9532 Před měsícem +14

    Arrge, thank you for making this video to speak for us. They add the all hero's health, reset genji's dmg, speed up his blade, and just "ignore" the hanzo's reduceded dmg, from 250 to 240, 125 to 120, and they called it improvement... Blizzard is trash since 2019 or 2020, guess it will continue until it's dead.

  • @StreakkVS
    @StreakkVS Před měsícem +9

    shimada brothers got it hard.

  • @benevolentduck9598
    @benevolentduck9598 Před měsícem +24

    I haven't even played the game at all since the last Hanzo changes. They made him super boring to play and clearly missed the mark with the intended goal to 'make it less frustrating' to fight Hanzo because now you just spam chokepoints more than ever and whether you die or not is also almost entirely random. Changing Hanzo from an assassin who excels at taking out squishies to basically just a pure dps probably isn't super fun for tanks either since most of them get blown up fast enough from the dps passive alone already and don't need another hero on the roster who just unloads all their abilities like Storm Arrows on the largest target on the field. Not to mention Hanzo is directly outclassed in that regard by most hitscans anyway and especially widow since hitscan bullets are now much easier to hit while dealing a similar amount of damage or even 1-shotting most heroes in the case of Widowmaker. Hanzo has lost his niche in the meta

    • @alfredocaceres4680
      @alfredocaceres4680 Před měsícem +4

      Not even a pure DPS he can only do 240 dmg every 1.25 seconds and that's if everything is a headshot

    • @aephos-overwatch
      @aephos-overwatch Před měsícem

      @@alfredocaceres4680 seems fair actually,

  • @mazenhak3312
    @mazenhak3312 Před měsícem +10

    The emote is so funny lol😂😂😂😂
    Keep this content arrge

  • @deaxiom3542
    @deaxiom3542 Před měsícem +2

    I got into hanzo partially due to this channel, and wanting be less of a spray and pray dps. I fell in love with the character, play style, mind games, and honestly improved as a player dramatically. Now its almost more effective to spray and pray as Hanzo. So yeah i'll be standing my ground on this one.

  • @SHUTENSEPC
    @SHUTENSEPC Před měsícem +2

    How to convince them to bring one shot back: make the arrow charge extra 0.5s from 240 dmg to 250 dmg, but keep the same charge rate for it to go to 240 as now.
    And make some sounds that indicate both charges 🎮

  • @minecraftentertainment8562
    @minecraftentertainment8562 Před měsícem +9

    blizzard employ for no reason:
    did he just said "fucking" 'deep breathe'

    • @Forra_10
      @Forra_10 Před měsícem

      Lol aren't people getting banned for that, like permanently?

    • @jawszsy2259
      @jawszsy2259 Před měsícem

      ​@@Forra_10 i got 2-3 warnings before i got a 2 week chat ban for profanity use. I doubt they'll send out perma bans for chat-related issues.

    • @marzokedesignstudio3005
      @marzokedesignstudio3005 Před měsícem

      @@jawszsy2259 they did perma ban me just for text chat

  • @t_o_n_y_p
    @t_o_n_y_p Před měsícem +6

    It feels like there wasn’t a ton of thought that went into Hanzo's "rework". I bet if this iteration of the hero is ever meta people will find him more annoying to play into than when he could 1 shot

  • @vernon249
    @vernon249 Před měsícem +5

    Thank you for speaking out ❤.

  • @amaateraasuuu
    @amaateraasuuu Před měsícem +23

    saving me money 😩
    on a real note though, i haven’t really touched hanzo since. the one time i played him, it was basically just a game of spamwatch instead of incorporating my play style. i miss playing him, but that’s just not fun whatsoever. it’s terrible.

    • @HammerHead-yx5dy
      @HammerHead-yx5dy Před měsícem +1

      Same here with barely touching him now. He used to be my favorite sniper to play but now it doesn’t feel good anymore. Hit a hard headshot but can’t finish the kill? Welp too bad, unless your team kills them for you they’ve already completely healed back up and aren’t going to peak you when low. He genuinely feels more centered around using storm arrows now

  • @eduardoaugusto1549
    @eduardoaugusto1549 Před měsícem +1

    good video arrge. may blizz listen to your pleads and hanzo be more fun to play again soon

  • @masonmontoya1608
    @masonmontoya1608 Před měsícem +9

    I would also like to point out, the new legendary skin is just the base ow2 skin with a mask, like this is what you consider a legendary now? Idk it just doesn't sit right with me

    • @TreyBass-dm9tt
      @TreyBass-dm9tt Před měsícem +2

      Yea I saw that and thought epic, but since they have no respect for Hanzo mains 🤷‍♂️🫠

  • @JonathanTuala
    @JonathanTuala Před měsícem +1

    Love your content Arrge. Been watching you for a while and I’m so frustrated with what they’ve done to Hanzo. I’ve always maimed him and since season 9, I’ve struggled so hard to continue to be motivated that I started practicing other heroes I didn’t normally practice till his nerfs. It’s really sad.
    We must let blizzard know that they need to offer more compensation to him since they took his one shot away. That was huge for Hanzo mains. Those were the shots that kept us coming back.
    Anyway, your content is always entertaining and educational to watch and I appreciate all the hard work you put into making these videos.
    Thanks Arrge. Your fan for life.
    -Fen

  • @lulumusterlulu2505
    @lulumusterlulu2505 Před měsícem

    Arrge, u re awsome, ur community will support u, no matter what. Ur viedeos are so fun and we will be there to watch them. Keep ur head up :)

  • @kruku9929
    @kruku9929 Před měsícem +1

    true, i learned to play hanzo decently and had so much fun, then boom, all the fun from clean headshotzz taken away

  • @markshawkmen5091
    @markshawkmen5091 Před měsícem +4

    Love your videos! It's enhanced my Hanzo play 10 fold! I agree 100% on your take here homie. Keep it up!! BURN THE BRIDGE FOR HANZOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Ender_King09
    @Ender_King09 Před měsícem +7

    I dont like fighting Hanzo, but out of both snipers, he who has more depth than a shallow pond is the one that gets gutted? If one shots are going to stay in the game in any shape, way or form, and it'd be unreasonable for them not to, then Hanzo should absolutely be allowed to have his without any ifs or buts.
    If they were so worried about the hitbox changes pushing him over the edge, maybe they should've known better than to make hitbox changes in the first place.
    I wish every Hanzo main a swift buff

    • @hihowareyou717
      @hihowareyou717 Před měsícem

      what's funny is that they nerfed all of his damage then made his hit box back to how it was before the patch, blizzard is a joke

  • @Hidukara
    @Hidukara Před měsícem

    If you can't resist the emote, get it directly from the hero select menu. It's 500 coins (which you can get from the battle pass if you grind it fast enough so that you get it before Hanzo's swapped out in a couple days) or deny blizz $20 instead of buying the whole bundle.

  • @jrodd13
    @jrodd13 Před měsícem +7

    Thank you for saying the shit that needs to be said Arrge. I have not played Hanzo since his one shot got removed, and won't until it comes back. Taking away Hanzo's one shot but keeping Widow's is ABSOLUTELY MINDBOGGLING to me balance wise

    • @HammerHead-yx5dy
      @HammerHead-yx5dy Před měsícem

      Oh but Hanzo can still one shot tracer and widow that makes it fair right? And his strom arrows are stronger so why care? Truly crazy, wonder who decided to take away a SNIPER’s one shot? People complained about “spamzo” and now he’s even more spam centered because what’s the point in aiming for someone if you can’t secure the kill with a headshot anyway? Used to pick Hanzo over widow any day but now i feel no reason to play him

  • @MysticMicrowave
    @MysticMicrowave Před měsícem +6

    Here to hoping that blizzard doesn't decide to just stop making Hanzo cosmetics. As a widow main, I still cannot believe what they did in season 9

    • @MysticMicrowave
      @MysticMicrowave Před měsícem +1

      Remove widows projectile size, revert Hanzos projectile size, make him one shot again.

    • @HammerHead-yx5dy
      @HammerHead-yx5dy Před měsícem

      @@MysticMicrowaveThey should just go ahead and completely remove the more forgiving hitboxes too but they want it to be more “casual”

    • @MysticMicrowave
      @MysticMicrowave Před měsícem +1

      @@HammerHead-yx5dy I highly doubt they are going to budge on that change unfortunately, but trust me, I agree with you. I think keeping legacy hitboxes for widow and Hanzo at least gives them a reason to retain their one-shot. Plus, I think both communities utterly detest the projectile buff anyway, given how much time we put into our aim intensive characters.

    • @HammerHead-yx5dy
      @HammerHead-yx5dy Před měsícem

      @@MysticMicrowave i have no doubt in my mind that they’ll probably never change this but one can wish

  • @josquilla
    @josquilla Před měsícem +18

    being a hanzo main myself, i was also extremely disappointed about the nerfs. makes me super sad

  • @justanothernoob6913
    @justanothernoob6913 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you for voicing the issues we been dealing with as a fellow hanzo player, i feel if we can do it, we need to speak up

  • @soberstoners7610
    @soberstoners7610 Před měsícem +4

    Honestly I don’t expect them to change anything. It’s obvious none of the developers main/ play hanzo. The worst thing about the nerf is the lack of clips and having plays that would’ve won a team fight get you killed. Other than that I got use to the nerf. I like to flick a lot already and I kinda like the intensive aiming you gotta be able to do now

  • @chlve
    @chlve Před měsícem +2

    My Arrge respect levels have increased to over 9000

  • @chovi7719
    @chovi7719 Před měsícem

    i complain to myself mostly but it hurts man, also I'm pretty new but I love your videos in the last 2 years, I hope your hanzo career never ends

  • @MrHideyHole
    @MrHideyHole Před měsícem +2

    As i've said before - The evidence is shown by how Kenzo was launched well into top 500 after the changes and your rank dropped and stagnated. You two were frequently dueling, and it was always a pleasure to watch. If that is not a barometer for how damaging the changes have been i don't know what is.

  • @CaptainRipHunter
    @CaptainRipHunter Před měsícem +6

    As a hardstuck gold 5 Hanzo main, I appreciate you speaking out for us 👍

    • @GouShin1
      @GouShin1 Před měsícem

      as a hard stuck plat1/diamond 5 hanzo main I'm with you brotha!

  • @sergioramirez978
    @sergioramirez978 Před měsícem +9

    these nerfs force you to play bunched with your team and spam arrows imo, I don't have the accuracy Arrge has I think in a good day I'm between 25-30% critical accuracy, which means the 3 headshots I managed to hit out of 10 didn't freaking kill the Ana or the Mercy!! instead they just ran back to cover and heal, or if i do manage to get the kill is solely because i had storm arrow up and i was able to spam another shot to kill them. Which means Hanzo without cooldowns is utterly useless honestly this feels so so bad!

  • @AshG10190
    @AshG10190 Před měsícem

    I mained Hanzo about 4-5 years ago and played OW everyday. I stopped playing and only came back last year(on-off) and it's sad too see how the character has been treated since.

  • @winkman4
    @winkman4 Před měsícem

    Bro thanks for speaking out about this issue

  • @jed1master787
    @jed1master787 Před měsícem

    I think this makes sense, I was thinking about whether or not to buy a new skin, now I won’t

  • @mariomartin1999
    @mariomartin1999 Před měsícem

    Death match when you get a good middle ground and ping 5 people back to back was the best, even getting a nice 3 piece felt great but that red hit marker just feels horrible now. Patch day and I had no kills till 4 min in the game

  • @rkrams1989
    @rkrams1989 Před měsícem +1

    I'm with you, It's not just the nerfs, it's how they won't even address something as important as breaking the primary of a iconic hero of 7 years and not even mention it

  • @fluffydoomsdays
    @fluffydoomsdays Před měsícem +6

    If hanzo can't one shot, widow shouldn't either

    • @Qx6GeometryDash
      @Qx6GeometryDash Před měsícem +1

      widow is a true sniper, has less hp and her only utility to the team is she clickin heads as for hanzo he got spam damage, wallhack arrow and literally goes for 240 damage headshot which is a lot even if is not a oneshot as widow.

  • @enjoygary
    @enjoygary Před měsícem +1

    I think a good rework for Hanzo would be if his arrows charged based on how long you hold the arrow. Hanzo should have a meter. Quick shot arrows shouldn't one shot but a full change arrow should.

  • @juanitoarcoiris5824
    @juanitoarcoiris5824 Před měsícem

    good vid bro fr

  • @DonnyZofChaos
    @DonnyZofChaos Před měsícem

    As a devoted Hanzo main and DM enjoyer I just don't play him anymore. It used to be so rewarding going to long distance or jump pad sharpshooters on maps like Eichenwalde or Petra..having to predict movement and calculate arrow speed and drop was a real skill not everyone understood and appreciated but the one shot nerf combined with losing your bow draw on wallclimb just killed all skill expression and FUN for the hero. It's especially bad in DM when a HS on a full HP target means someone is going to sneeze on them and take all the credit. He went from being my most played hero to not even being a character

  • @afterthought9538
    @afterthought9538 Před měsícem +2

    I've been actually active on the forums (though I hate them) and YT comments and giving my thoughts on Hanzo every chance I get! We need more Hanzo content creators to speak out! Thank you for this, Arrge! Love this content and we need more of it! Hanzo can't be allowed to be this way, I'm not sure I'd even accept a full rework. Calculated OHKs is the dopamine magic behind this hero, and why so many of us chose to main him from the start!

    • @afterthought9538
      @afterthought9538 Před měsícem +1

      Just saying, I don't only play Hanzo. I'm extending this to ALL cosmetics. Blizz is not getting any of my money until this hero gets buffed. The cash is much better used to help support the Hanzo content creators who are losing revenue due to Hanzo being in his current state.

  • @hillwoop9101
    @hillwoop9101 Před měsícem +1

    Fr thought bro was gonna do the emote IRL at the start

  • @aerinie6704
    @aerinie6704 Před měsícem

    i feel like the obvious solution for hanzo is to add a second level for the charge that one shots and takes a lot longer which makes one shots more deliberate

  • @TheRealHypervizor
    @TheRealHypervizor Před měsícem

    I'd like to see a compromise here. Since we can't 1 shot, we should get the ability to hold charges with wall climb back. I really hate playing as a spamzo and at least we would recover some skill expression back.. albeit not much.

  • @geoffm9224
    @geoffm9224 Před měsícem +5

    I’m a qp hanzo, although I wouldn’t call my self a hanzo main. I feel your frustration Arrge and you voiced it well. The changes to hanzo made led me to play doomfist more. Hanzo just doesn’t have the impact and corner spamming gets old. I won’t buy the cosmetics as support Arrge.

  • @gobbagoo
    @gobbagoo Před měsícem

    i realized that i barely ever played hanzo since the one shot went away, it took all the satisfaction i had playing the character

  • @Fearless_Kat
    @Fearless_Kat Před měsícem +1

    Was gunna get hanzo's jade weapon cuz it looks great. But I really haven't touched the hero since season 9 started, so I'm reconsidering.

    • @JustShiiro
      @JustShiiro Před měsícem

      Same. I got Tracer Jade gun instead.

  • @hailstromz6802
    @hailstromz6802 Před měsícem +1

    I feel you arrge im a hanzo main but i stop playing him since the new changes

  • @mr.penguin4614
    @mr.penguin4614 Před měsícem +1

    hanzo mains are too chill, we aren't loud enough for them to care fr

  • @jumplify
    @jumplify Před měsícem

    I got into this game from watching your videos, and how fun it is to headshot people with a bow. Well now I can’t do that no more and I can never confirm kills so I don’t even play the game anymore 😅

  • @ahabum
    @ahabum Před měsícem +1

    It's so fun reading Blizzard talking about the frustration you can get playing against Hanzo and on the meantime leave Sombra with her stupid kit.

  • @xbrisk8808
    @xbrisk8808 Před měsícem

    The road to getting good at Hanzo was such pain but so worth it due to the incredibly satisfying gameplay. Now he's just frustrating to play.

  • @zxnaz_
    @zxnaz_ Před měsícem +3

    I’ve stopped playing Hanzo as much since 😭

  • @hellfiregaming1904
    @hellfiregaming1904 Před měsícem +1

    I’ve mained many heroes but hanzo was one of them with nearly 100 hours and just as I started to really enjoy him is when they removed the one shot. Now I hardly play him. It’s just irritating to have to shoot someone twice to kill or 3 times to the body to kill when his fire rate is much less than most other heroes. I die to a mcree or soldier faster than I do to a hanzo nowadays. And I barely see him anymore either as well as junkrats cuz his combo was removed. It just sad honestly. Trust me I won’t buy anything for him. And I didn’t plan on it even before watching this. Much love arrge❤️🙌🏼

  • @BlizzardIceXYZ
    @BlizzardIceXYZ Před měsícem +20

    They should just revert the hitbox and put him back at 125 per arrow but make storm arrow do 65 again. It’ll restore what they’ve done

  • @imminent_gans
    @imminent_gans Před měsícem

    Ive been trying to get all hero achievements as Im relatively new. I really wish I worked on Hanzo before season 9 because the storm arrow one feels so impossible without the headshot 1 shot

  • @riv1202
    @riv1202 Před měsícem +6

    I’m convinced if hanzo had a bigger ass than widow he would still have his danmn one shot, thank you for being our voice for us hanzo mains! Calling hanzo a sniper in season 9/10 is so funny to me because he’s just a glorified cassidy

    • @luciencartervo5356
      @luciencartervo5356 Před měsícem +6

      Clearly the solution is to give Hanzo a dumptruck ass

    • @mewkyu
      @mewkyu Před měsícem

      ​@@luciencartervo5356please. please blizzard THIS is the real change we need.

  • @cristianaristavalcarse9767
    @cristianaristavalcarse9767 Před měsícem

    The worst part is they charging you a price like a legendary cosmetic to a obviously epic one, they didn't even care to make a good cosmetic to him

  • @FourthLast
    @FourthLast Před měsícem

    I couldn't believe when a teammate said Hannah doesn't one shot headshot anymore. That's so wild. If they just left the hitbox that way it was they wouldn't have to reduce the damage

  • @aroidaaric
    @aroidaaric Před měsícem

    I was wondering when you'd speak up on the hanzo cat emote 😂 i was thinking it'd go so well with the cat ears you wear on stream lmao

  • @KC80SiX
    @KC80SiX Před měsícem

    That 45% win rate you mentioned was spot on. I started playing hanzo the last few weeks (never had since 2019 that I started) and the winrate doesn’t want to climb above 45%-47%. Granted I play him in QP but still 😂

  • @Slava_60
    @Slava_60 Před měsícem

    Finally someone talked about it. Honestly, i 1000% agree with u Arrge i don't get what are the developers doing anymore just random nerfs and buffs lol.

  • @ozbeysimsek2662
    @ozbeysimsek2662 Před měsícem +5

    Just Unfair..

  • @GamerEbs1143
    @GamerEbs1143 Před měsícem

    Hanzo is my second main, but I can relate to this 100% being a junkrat main they got rid of his 2 shot combo last season and the only effective way to really play him is to lean into the spamming which everyone hates and says he is no skill for! It really sucks ass

  • @BreakingBear205
    @BreakingBear205 Před měsícem

    I don’t main hanzo but I have respect for you and those who truly committed to hanzo so in what little I can do I won’t buy the bundle or any further cosmetics I had planned to acquire until they fix what they have done

  • @vikashnag1545
    @vikashnag1545 Před měsícem

    I agree with arrge with this one but it's also true that hanzo is like semi rng character where you can randomly spam arrow and someone will die so i don't feel bad about no one shot

    • @quixotic7460
      @quixotic7460 Před měsícem +1

      So youre saying that because he can be played in an ineffective, spray and pray fashion by Bronze players, that his skill cap should be in the gutter? that he should be non-viable in higher elos for players with a modicum of skill? How does that make sense?

  • @simonlundh
    @simonlundh Před měsícem

    I used to main him. He is my top 3 most played but I barely touch him now.

  • @oddyx420
    @oddyx420 Před měsícem

    Very well said. Mad respect for risking your relationship with Blizzard to voice out this stuff!

  • @Bodgie7878
    @Bodgie7878 Před měsícem +1

    As a point OW's balance team really looks at pick rate so if everyone just stopped playing hanzo for a bit that would kick them up the ass to do something

  • @SirVunts
    @SirVunts Před měsícem

    Hanzo main since OW1 season 1 and now it just feels like I only pick him if I get double or tripple out-picked on widow since widow does everything that hanzo does but better.

  • @ramixsabeh
    @ramixsabeh Před měsícem +1

    This games balance is not based on skills, but rather on how the player emotions fluctuate.

  • @jaylennash5058
    @jaylennash5058 Před měsícem +4

    I feel like the Nerf to him being able to climb a wall whilst also having a knocked arrow was the beginning of the end for this fucking character they just don’t like Hanzi and the data developers just hate hanzo. Now there is a blatant hit scan bias and I genuinely don’t think anything that this community does it’s going to change anything. I wish we could get back to that the fairness of actually having store Merrill be fucking useful, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had shot somebody just to have it do literally nothing how the fuck is that fair? Do you know if a person with less of a critical rate and you call that fair but you don’t know if the person that has a higher critical rate.

  • @MJyoung35
    @MJyoung35 Před měsícem +1

    I dont play Hanzo but I love your content. I dont necessarily think he should get his one shot back but all the other nerfs seem completely ridiculous

  • @nuplayer8121
    @nuplayer8121 Před měsícem

    Sometimes i think devs make changes when they play and get angry by dying from the other characters

  • @wasabebo8334
    @wasabebo8334 Před měsícem +2

    this also goes for junkrat

  • @thebluehat27
    @thebluehat27 Před měsícem

    Im with you ARRGE, as a hanzo main, I support you

  • @LFKrebs
    @LFKrebs Před měsícem

    I only bought Cupid Hanzo last year because it was such a fun skin, but after the changes, even though I can't help myself to keep playing the character, since after 300 hours on him he's like by far my best dps, getting those predict headshots from very far away, seeing the enemy live with 10 hp and hide just fucking sucks, I seriously doubt they will ever give the oneshot back to Hanzo at this point, but as far as cosmetics go I'll never buy a single Hanzo skin from the shop again.

  • @kigow8399
    @kigow8399 Před měsícem +3

    I uninstalled overwatch and I won't be installing it until they make my fav character (and the reason I loved playing overwatch) fun again.

  • @117lyrics
    @117lyrics Před měsícem

    thank you. i used to play a ton of hanzo, even recorded clips. blizzard removing his 1-shot was the worst thing to happen to the game in a long time. suppressing skill expression for casual players

  • @MrNocturnOwl
    @MrNocturnOwl Před měsícem

    Arrge the goat

  • @avbugflames
    @avbugflames Před měsícem +1

    ur the best . pls keep making videos

  • @lavieofegg
    @lavieofegg Před měsícem

    THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING UP.

  • @Drzewo75
    @Drzewo75 Před měsícem

    Need to get vulture to make one for junkrat now

  • @cyberbirb_OW
    @cyberbirb_OW Před měsícem

    Exactly!! Thank you for putting this out Arrge. The emote alone is a disgrace to his character. With Venture's release, we're getting into more of a brawl type game and I didn't play Hanzo for 500 hours just to suddenly switch to a new playstyle. It's really unfair for dedicated players. Hope we can all still find some fun regardless.

  • @anettelma123
    @anettelma123 Před měsícem

    this is so true... I cant play hanzo but I feel bad about what devs did to him in s9.